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<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> hi
L3[00:14:34] <Mod9000> Hello,
shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu
L5[00:15:02] <Mod9000> Hello, flayer
L6[00:15:07]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> I've just started off
L7[00:15:19]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> trying to do an SSTO
L8[00:15:39] <flayer> a spaceplane
SSTO?
L9[00:15:48]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> can't seem to get out of the
atmosphere, yet I've got hella delta V
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<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> yuppers
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<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> I cap at 380-odd meters per
second
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<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> then pitch down
unavoidably
L13[00:16:42]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> unsure if it's the craft or
my piloting\
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<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> I did alt-f12 to place
myself in orbit to see if it would land safely and it glides like a
dream
L15[00:17:54]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> but I feel as if I'm
throwing myself against a wall
L16[00:18:05]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> or rather, kerbals against
the ocean
L17[00:18:19] <flayer> its probably a
matter of speed/intake/thrust/weight
L18[00:18:42] <flayer> if you're too heavy,
you can't get up to speed to get a proper amount of intake/thrust
for your jet engines to function properly
L19[00:19:21] <raptop> Yeah, at least some
engines lose thrust at mach 1, and drag does peak around
there.
L20[00:19:34] <raptop> I know some
craft/players have a portion where the ascent includes a dive to
get above it
L21[00:19:34] <flayer> what's helped me
solve this is reducing the amount of fuel
L22[00:19:51] <raptop> Yeah, aircraft are
weird in how sometimes less is more (because of drag)
L23[00:19:54] <flayer> sometimes i do that,
sometimes i fire my orbital thrusters for a bit of a boost
L24[00:20:15]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> 1 nerv and 2 rapiers
L25[00:20:27]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> I tried nosing down
L26[00:20:36] <flayer> switch the rapiers
to closed cycle for a bit
L27[00:20:46] <flayer> to test things
out
L28[00:20:57]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> certainly
L29[00:21:07]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> that's how I got to
380ms
L30[00:21:24]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> 2o degrees got me to
30km
L31[00:21:31]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> 20*
L32[00:21:32] <flayer> then you're just too
heavy, i reckon
L33[00:21:44]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> twr is 1.67
L34[00:21:59] <flayer> numbers mean nothing
to me
L35[00:22:02] <flayer> i do everything by
feel
L36[00:22:07]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> fair nuff
L37[00:23:41]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> should I give up on making
it a mining rig
L38[00:25:01] <flayer> i can't imagine 2
rapiers being capable of bringing a mining rig and nerv into
orbit
L39[00:25:36] <flayer> but i have almost no
experience with rapiers
L40[00:31:20]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> mini rig but yeah maybe
underpowered
L41[00:31:27]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> unsure what else to
use
L42[00:31:41]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> attempting to figure out
screenshotting
L43[00:32:07] <flayer> replace the nerv
with another rapier and see what happens
L44[00:35:34] <darsie> You could use
rockets.
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<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> @darsie how so? do you mean
those such as the vector engine?
L50[01:19:30]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> I'm a bit scatterbrained,
partially due to the cooking of the all important snacks
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L52[01:23:43] <raptop>
shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu: orange tank + skipper can get you
something like 4 tonnes to LKO. (IIRC, an orange tank is a bit too
much propellant for the engine, but eh)
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<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> hmm
L55[01:26:57]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> now it reaaaly wants to go
left, and smashed its bckside off
L56[01:27:04]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> *really
L57[01:41:38]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> now it seems to be
overpowered
L58[01:42:01]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> leaps to 95m/s then does a
power slide
L59[01:42:01] <flayer> then you can scale
back down or add more weight!
L60[01:42:17]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> maybe I'm stupid but
L61[01:42:30]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> WHERE DO I ADD MORE WEIGHT
OMG
L62[01:42:48]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> without increasing drag
overmuch
L63[01:42:55] <flayer> somewhere in the
middle
L64[01:43:23]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> extra fuel/oxidizer
then
L65[01:46:26] <umaxtu> oh my thats a long
nick
L66[01:48:27] *
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L67[01:49:18]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> it was supposed to be
"shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatube
L68[01:49:43]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> so it must be 31
L69[01:51:27]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> now it truly has all of the
wibbly-wobbly and none of the timey-wimey
L70[02:07:39] <umaxtu> no Doctor Who fans
allowed here I'm afraid
L71[02:16:42] *
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L77[03:55:11] *
packbart is listening to 11th Doctor Audio Books
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L82[04:22:46] <umaxtu> audio books?
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L85[04:28:11] <packbart> yes. I like
listening better than reading. Eyes are not multi-tasking
L86[04:32:13] <umaxtu> doctor who
books?
L87[04:32:44] <packbart> yes. there are
lots of them. most of them by Big Finish
L89[04:37:30] <umaxtu> huh. til
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L92[04:37:56] <umaxtu> I'm still not caught
up on the 12th's antics
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L120[13:30:22] <flayer> you have a folder
called 'eggplant' on your desktop
L121[13:30:42] <Izaya> It appears I
do.
L122[13:30:44] <Izaya> Huh.
L123[13:30:57] *
Izaya doesn't run anything that provides desktop icons and
generally forgets the folder exists
L124[13:31:41] <flayer> why do you have a
folder called eggplant on your desktop?
L125[13:32:07] <Izaya> Got a mod for
RimWorld that screenshots the map at regular intervals, and
apparently I used the seed "eggplant"
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L133[14:42:21] <Althego> the prichal iss
module
L134[14:55:22] <Mat2ch> nice nice
L135[15:03:53] <Mat2ch> I wonder if the
ISS will be spun around again...
L136[15:04:06] <Althego> seems to be a
common occurance now
L137[15:05:00] <Mat2ch> Exactly
L138[15:08:16] <Mat2ch> Also I hope all of
you have soled their Lilium stonks, because they will soon run out
of money...
L139[15:13:54] <Althego> lilium was the
much overrated elfen lied opening
L140[15:24:07] <Althego> the end looked
really bad, it was seriously misaligned at it was visible that id
did fast corrections
L141[15:41:19] <Mat2ch> you mean the video
from two weeks ago?
L142[15:41:31] <Althego> no, this
one
L143[15:41:51] <Althego> it was even a
comical timing that the american said perfectly aligned, and the
russian side said 30 deg off
L144[15:42:14] <Mat2ch> hrhr
L145[15:42:34] <Mat2ch> I really wonder
what is going on at Roskosmos? They had such a great software
department for years and now this?
L146[15:43:45] <Althego> hired ex-kerbal
programmers? :)
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L150[15:47:41] <Izaya> switched to
kOS
L151[15:56:54] <Althego> that sounds like
a mission
L152[15:57:03] <Althego> now we just need
to find an outcome
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L154[16:02:58] <Eddi|zuHause> an
unscheduled kOS update delayed your maneuver node
L155[16:03:28] <Izaya> I didn't know we
were up to kOS 10
L156[16:03:57] <Eddi|zuHause> isn't it 11
by now?
L157[16:04:29] <Izaya> I think I'll be
sticking to kOS 2000 either way
L158[16:07:54] <Mat2ch> kOS 95 was the
best one.
L159[16:08:08] <Althego> does it have a
windows naming scheme?
L160[16:08:26] <Althego> or are we talking
about ms stuff now?
L161[16:13:03] <packbart> Red Onion is
better, eehniweeh! :)
L162[16:13:18] <packbart> (ok, it's Lua...
still better than that kOS syntax)
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L169[17:08:34] <Althego> kikkeri-ho-ho-ho
lol
L170[17:18:37] <raptop> Should I be
concerned by the menu ideas?
L171[17:19:27] <Althego> seems turkey is
on now
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L175[18:27:02] <Kalpa> Kikkerikuu
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<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> The crew of the ISS begins
singing "you spin me right 'round"
L179[19:38:49] <FLHerne> what,
AGAIN?!
L180[19:55:06]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> lul what
L181[19:55:24]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> I ran out of oxidiser
L182[19:55:44] <Althego> not yet, but they
are already expecting it :)
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<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> with 5740 lf and 1060 ox, I
ran out of oxidiser at 2161 units of fuel... meaning for every 3579
lf I require 1060 oxidiser...correct?
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L187[19:59:31] <packbart> The wiki says:
"Rocket engines using liquid fuel and oxidizer, use a
volumetric mixture of 9 units of liquid fuel per 11 units of
oxidizer."
L189[20:00:28] <raptop> Yeah, all of the
stock ones do that. I think shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu is also
using jet engines at some points so wants additional lf
L190[20:01:11] <packbart> yeah, the page
says "Jet engines use intake air in a volumetric mixture of 1
unit of liquid fuel per 15 units of intake air."
L191[20:01:25] <packbart> and it gets more
complicated if you run nukes at the same time
L192[20:01:43]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> I did as you suggested and
switched to a rapier
L193[20:01:56]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> which is why oxidiser became
a problm
L194[20:02:46]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> I had originally chosen a
NERV for the efficiency and lack of high ox drain
L195[20:04:20] <Althego> the nuke is
really heavy, so it is only efficient for low twr long burns
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L198[20:59:04]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> thanks
L199[21:14:52]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> the auto-generated subtitles
on the nasa stream
L200[21:15:11]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> gamma rays? no, Camrys
L201[21:16:10]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> (inaudible) work has
uncovered previously overlooked orbits that can produce
L202[21:16:20]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> EXTREMELY ENERGETIC
CAMRYS
L203[21:19:01] <raptop> Oh no, a 10 MeV
Toyota has collided with me!
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<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> outcome
L206[21:33:46]
<shoveakerbalinahatchthroughatu> switched to kOS, a 10MeV
Toyota has collided with you!
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