L2[00:52:12] <XXCoder> ;mission

L3[00:52:12] <LunchBot> XXCoder: You deliver a rover via fractional orbital bombardment. You crack a joke about it.

L5[01:54:20] <SporkWitch> packbart: gotta be something unique about the smoke effects of the rapiers when on the runway. once i get to a couple hundred metres framerate stabilizes just fine. it's really weird

L6[01:56:39] <raptop> o_O

L7[02:09:18] <SporkWitch> raptop: since switching out realplume for waterfall, i've been getting severe framerate issues with more than 2 rapiers on the runway, but it's ONLY the rapiers and only when close to the ground. Can't figure out what it is about them, since the effects don't appear significantly different from other engines that don't cause any issues

L8[02:13:44] <raptop> Yeah, that's really weird

L12[02:56:59] <flayer> i should add a flotation device to debris recovery missions

L13[03:01:05] <SporkWitch> whee! friendly mun giving me a boost away from kerbin!

L14[03:01:27] <SporkWitch> don't necessarily need it because holy crap i love ion engines, but handy nonetheless ^^

L15[03:05:48] <umaxtu> you wouldn't happen to work for Sienar Fleet Systems would you SporkWitch?

L16[03:08:43] <SporkWitch> umaxtu: sounds familiar; i think one of the corps i used to run with joined them at some point

L17[03:08:50] <SporkWitch> i haven't played EVE in quite some time, though

L18[03:09:07] <umaxtu> wrong sci-fi. https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Sienar_Fleet_Systems

L19[03:09:26] <SporkWitch> also, not so friendly mun, it wasn't a boost, it was an impact! lol

L20[03:09:35] <SporkWitch> the orbit predictions lied!

L21[03:09:50] <SporkWitch> ah, also explains why it sounds familiar; SFS designed the TIE craft, didn't they?

L22[03:10:18] <SporkWitch> hence your joke, given TIE = Twin Ion Engine

L23[03:13:16] <umaxtu> yup

L24[03:27:30] <flayer> nerds

L28[03:34:33] <raptop> uh

L30[03:37:24] <umaxtu> lol

L48[06:36:16] <SporkWitch> can a clampotron jr dock with a full-size?

L49[06:38:22] <Althego> only in the editor

L50[06:38:27] <Althego> so it can undock, but not dock

L51[06:39:34] <SporkWitch> gotcha, thanks

L54[07:10:09] <SporkWitch> lol, my probe doesn't float, i have to sink to the bottom of the ocean before i can recover it lol

L55[07:11:31] <Althego> unless it is squashed by the pressure

L56[07:11:54] <Althego> i dont knwo what you did, it is hard to make things sink in ksp

L57[07:12:52] <XXCoder> yeah. danny made a sub, and it had to have engines pointing up to go in

L58[07:18:50] <SporkWitch> was a qbe probe core, a xenon tank, a tiny reaction wheel, an ion engine, and a parachute; it sank at 1.1m/s lol

L59[07:19:17] <SporkWitch> also, apparently the decoupler from one of my stages splashed down intact... lol

L60[07:19:36] <SporkWitch> i'm wondering if the info about things despawning in atmosphere is outdated and i SHOULD strap parachutes to my stages...

L61[07:22:19] <Althego> they do despawn

L62[07:24:46] <SporkWitch> lol, apparently i got money and science for depth records lol

L65[08:43:01] <SporkWitch> i am pleased. put my first station in orbit around kerbin but was lower than i wanted. flew my spaceplane up to it, pushed it into a higher orbit, and successfully landed back at the KSC :) (yes, i realize this is basic stuff, but it's still satisfying lol)

L66[09:09:50] <darsie> pics

L67[09:10:21] <darsie> Not sure if I should show you my stations :).

L68[09:11:02] <darsie> Pic including contract, if possible.

L80[15:20:14] <SporkWitch> was a real simple contract, just needed power, comms, and space for 5 kerbals, so I just did a cupula, hitchhiker, communotron, a big-ass battery (the one that matches radius with hitchhiker module), some monoprop, RCS, and a clampotron. I modified my spaceplane, replacing the mk2 cockpit with the mk2 in-line, an adapter, and shielded clampotron, so i could push along center of mass, instead of having it hang off the

L81[15:20:16] <SporkWitch> plane's "neck" by the ventral clampotron

L82[15:20:23] <SporkWitch> *dorsal, rather

L83[15:24:09] <SporkWitch> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/812736295814168623/909463688669438002/unknown.png

L84[15:24:38] <darsie> nice

L85[15:24:46] <darsie> Mine would have been much smaller :).

L86[15:25:23] <darsie> The cupola has high drag. Putting it in a fairing may help.

L87[15:25:42] <SporkWitch> i used a fairing; since figuring them out i've been using them extensively, just makes things so much more controllable

L88[15:26:02] <SporkWitch> i was just cheap on the launch booster, had JUST enough to get me into an 80/73 orbit

L89[15:26:30] <SporkWitch> so I sent this up to give it a push: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/812736295814168623/909464272675950632/unknown.png

L90[15:26:40] <SporkWitch> it's now at a nice 150/150 orbit

L91[15:27:36] <SporkWitch> (not going to keep this particular configuration, or if I do, I'll need to tweak the fuel distribution; this ended up with 400-500 less deltav once I reached orbit than it did with regular mk2 cockpit instead of the inline, adapter, and dock

L92[15:28:12] <SporkWitch> one thing i do find annoying / weird: no steering on the medium and larger landing gear

L93[15:28:31] <SporkWitch> correction, just the large, but still

L94[15:42:40] <SporkWitch> bah, can't seem to find a way to tie a rotational servo to yaw control and have it reset to zero when released lol (trying to make large landing gear capable of steering, like it should be)

L106[19:52:25] <SporkWitch> not fair! i just spent like 15 minutes carefully linine up my cargo bay to try to capture the pod i'm trying to rescue and bring it back down with me, and the damn thing just passes through the cargo bay like it's not there! lol

L108[20:03:28] <Althego> hehe

L109[20:05:20] <darsie> Use the Klaw.

L110[20:07:50] <Althego> or the force

L111[20:08:17] <raptop> Force Klaw sounds like a Sith ability

L112[20:08:23] <Althego> hehe

L113[20:08:36] <Althego> now i imagine a darth maul kerbal with a hood

L114[20:09:08] <raptop> As far as I'm concerned, the 2 Clone Wars series are more canon than the movies

L115[20:10:05] <umaxtu> I still think that the Thrawn trilogy would've been much better as movies than the swill that Disney made.

L116[20:10:14] <Althego> obviously

L117[20:10:16] <umaxtu> They would have to get new actors though

L118[20:21:39] <SporkWitch> the disney movies are intentionally bad, the writers and directors as much as admitted it, they set out to destroy star wars

L119[20:21:57] <SporkWitch> or if you prefer more of a conspiracy theory: they made them bad to make the prequels look good in comparison (and they succeeded)

L120[20:22:06] <Althego> all they did they destroyed themselves. the old star wars is still alive

L121[20:22:35] <Althego> also destroyed their future income from star wars

L122[20:28:56] <umaxtu> giving EA the exclusive license for star wars games didn't help either

L123[20:29:10] <Althego> hehe, ea, one of the worst companies ever

L124[20:29:14] <Althego> universally hated

L125[20:29:56] <umaxtu> idk, Blizzard sounds pretty bad. at least if you are a female employee

L126[20:30:47] <Althego> yes, the lates developments are devastating. blizzard went down the drain

L127[20:31:26] <Mat2ch> I heard Rockstar did some great things with GTA 3...

L128[20:31:46] <Althego> but i dont care about them anyway, the last game i liked from them was blakthorne

L129[20:31:57] <Althego> yes they rolled back 3 offline games

L130[20:32:01] <Althego> for the weekend

L131[20:32:15] <Mat2ch> The offline games that now require an online launcher

L132[20:32:24] <Mat2ch> and they didn't even upgrade the graphics, oh, noooooo

L133[20:32:39] <Althego> luckily i never cared about gta either

L134[20:32:40] <sandbox> it's a mixed bag

L135[20:33:39] <umaxtu> and sued all the modders

L136[20:34:07] <Althego> essentially a middle finger to all the community that has kept old games alive

L137[20:36:36] <umaxtu> yup

L138[20:37:38] <sandbox> guitar henk booths avaiable

L139[20:38:03] <umaxtu> is that one of the typos in the remasters?

L140[20:38:27] <umaxtu> also don't forget about the worst game dev of all. Squad /s

L141[20:39:27] <Althego> i think the ksp2 team is already doing worse, even before release

L142[20:39:37] <sandbox> vice city guitar shop texture no longer has guitars, just the text which is incorrect

L144[20:45:22] <Mat2ch> Althego: I'm somehow betting on it :(

L145[21:13:25] <flayer> i've given up on games almost entirely

L147[21:15:21] <umaxtu> big games from big publishers, yeah

L148[21:16:13] <SporkWitch> it's all about he indie lewd RPGmaker games :P

L149[21:17:33] <umaxtu> indie stuff, sure. Stardew Valley is perfect. nobody can change my mind

L150[21:19:31] <sandbox> oldies

L152[21:25:12] <SporkWitch> stardew is insufficiently lewd, but still fun; abigail = best bae