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L1[00:05:39] <SporkWitch> well that didn't
go quite as well as planned... ended up using RCS to claw that last
couple km of perigee lol
L2[00:05:57] <SporkWitch> (but enough RCS
fuel to deorbit still! lol)
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L14[02:17:24] <SporkWitch> i feel like
friction is not a thing... i gave a tiny bit of thrust to taxi,
throttled back to zero, and after 5 minutes i'm still rolling at
10m/s lol
L15[02:18:37] <raptop> rolling friction:
quite limited. Fortunately, brakes exist
L16[02:18:54] <SporkWitch> just thought it
was odd that it was THAT low lol
L17[02:19:14] <SporkWitch> i'm quite
pleased with my latest plane. nice and small, stable, and excellent
range. also highly landable!
L18[02:20:02] <SporkWitch> used a mk1
cockpit, the lin-line mk1 fuselage with intake, the second tier
swept wings, three tail fins, mk1 to mk2 adapter, and a pair of
panthers. worked really well
L19[02:20:17] <SporkWitch> just flew to the
desert airstrip from the KSC and still have about 2/3 fuel
left
L20[02:20:32] <SporkWitch> shouldn't have
any issue hitting 18km for surveys, either
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L22[02:42:52] <SporkWitch> ... i landed at
the desert airfield, recovered my plane, but it doesn't show up as
a launch option...
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L59[11:28:31] <AllenP_Dallas> It's been a
very long time since I have been on IRC
L60[11:28:39] <XXCoder> hey
L61[11:28:49] <AllenP_Dallas> Hello
L62[11:28:57] ***
kbuck_ is now known as kbuck
L63[11:29:46] <sandbox> ahoy
L64[11:29:46] <AllenP_Dallas> Is this where
the KSP experts can be found?
L65[11:30:03] <XXCoder> there is no
experts
L66[11:30:05] <XXCoder> just hacks
L67[11:30:05] <AllenP_Dallas> <-- very
much a newbie
L68[11:30:11] <XXCoder> just like kerbals
;)
L69[11:30:26] <XXCoder> but generally yes
lol
L70[11:31:14] <AllenP_Dallas> I am now
retired and have been finding things to occupy my time. Poof!
KSP!
L71[11:31:35] <XXCoder> nice
L72[11:32:17] <AllenP_Dallas> umm.. One
would think nice. I wish I could still work to be honest
L73[11:32:19] <XXCoder> it took me so long
to have first orbal docking
L74[11:32:31] <XXCoder> me too, but
unfortunately different reasons.
L75[11:32:43] <XXCoder> laid off due to
covid demend loss, then too dizzy to work
L76[11:34:02] <AllenP_Dallas> Terrible.. I
was a Epidemiologist and actually was studying this particular
virus years before the pandemic.
L77[11:34:30] <XXCoder> with sars then umm
mers? forgot that one name
L78[11:36:17] <AllenP_Dallas> coronal
viruses and possible WMD's and organisms that could be used or
modified. It was interesting wprk/
L79[11:36:59] <AllenP_Dallas> work.. sorry,
still have fine motor still problems
L80[11:37:23] <XXCoder> thats fine, i typo
way too often
L81[11:37:59] <XXCoder> other game I love
is Baba is you
L82[11:38:06] <AllenP_Dallas> May I ask,
what kind of work did you do before becoming ill?
L83[11:38:23] <XXCoder> it starts off very
simple.. then it quickly gets mindbending. you have to figure
gamebreaking logic and stuff
L84[11:38:27] <XXCoder> cnc machinist
L85[11:38:54] <XXCoder> i was already
starting to get random dizzyness spells when i was laid off, its
been steadily getting worse. i cannot drive safely now
L86[11:39:23] <AllenP_Dallas> Ahh.. my
father did that awhile after he retired from the military. Very
complex skill set
L87[11:39:43] <XXCoder> im not too
advanced, but worked for roughly 6 years across 2 jobs
L89[11:42:11] <AllenP_Dallas> I did some
"blade" encasement so they could be placed in CNC
machines. I will look at the Baba game (or have my husband look
first).He is a security guru on the side
L90[11:43:04] <XXCoder> nice :)
L91[11:44:14] <AllenP_Dallas> Do you know
when the KSP 2 will be coming out?
L92[11:44:22] <XXCoder> dont know
L93[11:44:33] <XXCoder> its been quiet on
that for quite a while
L94[11:44:59] <XXCoder> it says 2022 on
site
L95[11:45:03] <AllenP_Dallas> The preview
videos I have seen on Youtube look great
L96[11:45:45] <AllenP_Dallas> I guess the
pandemic has thrown it behind as with many things
L97[11:46:01] <XXCoder> yeah
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L99[11:51:10] <AllenP_Dallas> Any other
"newbies" or 'new people to KSP besides me?
L100[11:51:27] <XXCoder> pretty sure its
very rare nowdays
L101[11:51:43] <XXCoder> this channel used
to be lot more chatty with 700-800 people
L102[11:53:08] <AllenP_Dallas> A bunch of
names seem to be signed in even now
L103[11:58:04] <Althego> there are people
her, but new ones? no
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L107[12:10:41] <darsie> .
L108[12:10:56] <Althego> not yet
time
L109[12:11:16] <darsie> SporkWitch came
back to KSP after a long time.
L110[12:11:22] <darsie> Not exactly a
newbie.
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L112[12:17:50] <XXCoder> ;mission
L113[12:17:50] <LunchBot> XXCoder: You
decide to speed up the refueling process by mining corium instead
of regolith. Your actions cause an XK-class [DATA EXPUNGED]
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L115[12:17:59] <XXCoder> oh boy scp
L116[12:18:02] <XXCoder> laters
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L119[12:37:00] <Tank2333> since when had
this chat 700 hundred users?
L120[12:37:20] <darsie> 1337
L121[12:37:28] <Tank2333> sounds
right
L122[12:37:29] <Althego> yes, now it is
time
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L127[13:29:47] <Kalpa> 700 hundred users
sounds like 70k to me
L128[13:31:00] <Althego> hehe
L129[13:31:18] <Althego> i dont remember
700, but there used to be more than 200 for sure
L130[13:32:08] <Kalpa> I recall around
2013 we had some good discussions goin' on in here
L131[13:32:28] <Althego> ohhoho,
restrictions over, tech channels are dropping 12xxx reviews
L132[13:32:32] <Kalpa> With occasional
internet fames joining up
L133[13:32:52] <Kalpa> Tell me when
Steve's channel gets on it
L134[13:32:59] <Althego> already out
L135[13:33:09] <Althego> at least two
steve's i know
L136[13:33:28] <Kalpa> Heh
L137[13:34:19] <Althego> intel is
competition again. amazing
L138[13:36:44] <Althego> it beats amd,
most of the time, with 60% more power usage
L139[13:49:49] <darsie> Is this allowed
here? :) wallacer [~quassel@2001:bc8:1824:9a:cafe:babe:b00b:aa02]
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L140[13:52:44] <Althego> you can check out
any time you like, but you can never leave!
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L144[14:01:19] <darsie> hi wallacer
:)
L145[14:01:25] <wallacer> hm hello
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L165[15:31:30] <SporkWitch> I've decided
the solution to minmus is to send a "rover" consisting of
an RCS fuel tank, some RCS thrusters, and a seat lol
L166[15:41:51] <Althego> solution to what
problem?
L167[15:42:07] <SporkWitch> pebbles
launching you into orbit lol
L168[15:42:29] <SporkWitch> just jetting
around with the EVA pack was far less headache, so why not make a
"hover rover" lol
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L171[15:50:37] <SporkWitch> still irked i
have to fly back to the desert again, since it apparently didn't
unlock properly >_<
L172[15:50:52] <raptop> *sad
trombone*
L173[15:51:10] <SporkWitch> at least the
plane i used flew great lol
L174[15:51:11] <Althego> there is one
quite close not far behind the western mountains
L175[15:52:01] <SporkWitch> i just have
the KSC and island airfield; i flew to the desert one last night,
landed on its runway, recovered from its runway, but it doesn't
show up in my launch options :(
L176[15:52:20] <Althego> the desert
runway. that is far away
L177[15:52:36] <Althego> why dont you just
select it as a launch point, you dont need to fly there
L178[15:52:57] <SporkWitch> ... literally
what i'm complaining about. in career you have to visit it first to
unlock it to CHOOSE to launch from
L179[15:52:58] <Althego> actually called
dessert with 2 s
L180[15:53:31] <SporkWitch> that also
doesn't surprise me, given all the food jokes in KSP lol
L181[15:53:56] <raptop> ;mission
porkchop
L182[15:53:56] <LunchBot> raptop: In a fit
of hunger, you attempt to eat a porkchop plot.
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L184[15:59:52] <Althego> anyway that
mechanic must be with the latest version. i remember they promised
some hidden places which you had to find. but i thought the
standard non ksc sites were included like previously
L185[16:00:35] <raptop> Yeah, 1.12 has a
bunch more launch sites, and depending on what your settings are,
you can get unlock notifications for launching from dessert
L186[16:00:38] <SporkWitch> i can only say
for certain that the island airstrip didn't show up until i flew
there, hence the mission to fly to the des(s)ert one last night, to
unlock that :(
L187[16:00:40] <raptop> But there are more
(I don't know the details)
L188[16:01:05] <Althego> yes there are
some new ones
L189[16:01:09] <SporkWitch> wik ilists a
few more discoverable ones that aren't shown on the map by default,
island, woomerang, and dessert just show on map by default but
aren't selectable
L190[16:01:57] <raptop> selectability IIRC
depends on difficulty settings and DLC
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L192[16:02:08] <raptop> Not sure if the
DLC bit is still true in 1.12
L193[16:02:14] <Althego> ptobably you can
change that setting
L194[16:02:22] <raptop> But installing a
KSP version without would require effort
L195[16:02:33] <SporkWitch> i think it
just bugged out, because the island became selectable after i
landed at it (and got the notification of its discovery).
L196[16:02:42] <raptop> yay
L197[16:03:03] <SporkWitch> AFAIK the
setting at career start is whether to allow using them
AUTOMATICALLY, without having to visit them first
L198[16:03:15] <SporkWitch> raptop: well i
already had the airfield; i unlocked that before i even went to the
mun lol
L199[16:03:40] <SporkWitch> i'm saying i
think it bugged out when i flew to the dessert last night. i got
the discovery notification, but it isn't selectable for launch
:(
L200[16:05:27] <FLHerne> SporkWitch: Yes,
flying around is definitely the right idea on Minmus
L201[16:05:50] <FLHerne> I've built
basically that 'rover' a few times
L202[16:06:05] <FLHerne> I think the last
one used a 100-unit fuel tank and four Spiders
L203[16:06:13] <SporkWitch> might try it
with ion engines, too, once i unlock them
L204[16:06:14] <FLHerne> with a pair of
seats on top
L205[16:06:50] <FLHerne> SporkWitch:
There's a setting for the airfield
L206[16:07:05] <FLHerne> 'enable other
launch sites' or something in the difficulty settings
L207[16:07:11] <SporkWitch> derp... just
tried to launch said rover, and it didn't occur to me that the
rovemate as the only probe core puts the control perspective in the
wrong place lol
L208[16:07:24] <SporkWitch> FLHerne: i
thought that enabled them automatically from start; i wanted to
unlock them :'(
L209[16:07:26] <FLHerne> You can
right-click it and change the control orientation
L210[16:07:51] <FLHerne> but the options
are a bit limited so it still might not be right
L211[16:07:57] <SporkWitch> ah, thank
you
L212[16:08:07] <SporkWitch> will give that
a shot; worst case i slap a stayputnik on it lol
L213[16:09:19] <FLHerne> For some reason
the Making History ones aren't unlockable
L214[16:10:03] <SporkWitch> i see. i'll
have to dig around in the save file and see if there's a way to
enable those two, at least. i'd prefer unlocking the rest
"properly"
L215[16:10:08] <FLHerne> well, they
existed before the unlocking mechanism was added for the new
base-game launch sites, and the devs forgot? to update it to
match
L216[16:11:06] <SporkWitch> worst case i
guess i start a new game. shouldn't be too bad. yeah i have half
the tech tree unlocked, but it shouldn't take nearly as long to
earn it back now that i have a better idea what i'm doing
L217[16:11:24] <SporkWitch> and i'll still
have all my saved plans and (presumably?) subassemblies
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L219[16:15:06] <FLHerne> Come to think of
it, I don't know if the new unlockable ones respect the setting
from Making History...
L220[16:15:33] <FLHerne> it would be weird
and confusing if they don't, but it's already weird and
confusing
L221[16:16:06] <FLHerne> I'd just change
the setting, if it does allow using the new onws you can always
voluntarily ignore that
L222[16:17:07] <SporkWitch> i definitely
need to stop cheaping out on my launch stage; that was the easiest
orbit i've had yet, and i've got this ungainly rover sitting on top
and controlling it from a rovemate lol
L223[16:17:13] <SporkWitch> (i did put a
fairing around it, but still)
L224[16:17:40] <SporkWitch> higher
altitude makes for less fuel use to change inclination,
right?
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L226[16:17:59] <Althego> yes, because you
move slower
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L233[17:49:25] <SporkWitch> does allow
partial transmission lose the remaining science, or does it pause
and resume after it's charged back up? (my lab is just short of
having enough power to transmit what it has)
L234[18:03:03] <packbart> it resumes
later, no science is lost
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L240[18:51:40] <Mat2ch> whoops.
L241[18:51:54] <Althego> and elon is
already memeing on twitter
L242[19:03:45] <Althego> kikkerikii
L243[19:08:31] <a_flayer> i'm really tired
of all this pedestal stuff
L244[19:08:56] <a_flayer> i wish humanity
could focus on a group effort
L245[19:09:13] <Althego> not going to
happen easily
L246[19:09:28] <Althego> we dont do that
even in the face of impending doom with climate change
L247[19:10:36] <a_flayer> but it does
happen within companies and organizations
L248[19:10:47] <a_flayer> it just doesn't
really become the narrative somehow
L249[19:10:54] <a_flayer> and that's what
pains me
L250[19:11:12] <a_flayer> humans think
they need heroes
L253[19:28:43] ***
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L256[20:00:06] <SporkWitch> packbart:
thanks for the confirmation, i couldn't find anything solid (so
many things seem to contradict each other due to changes over time
lol)
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L261[21:27:48] <SporkWitch> what's up,
flayer?
L262[21:45:40] <SporkWitch> does KSP
account for coriolis effect or is it just ignored until out of the
atmosphere? Trying to figure out if there's a more efficient flight
path for a distant destination than a straight line, like in real
life.
L263[21:57:22] <raptop> It should be
accounted for, hence the rotating reference frames
L264[21:59:33] <Mat2ch> !mission
L265[21:59:33] <LunchBot> Mat2ch: You
attempt to add a mission to kmath. You find yourself feeling
floofy, and exothermic.
L266[22:00:00] <Mat2ch> Looks like kmath
doesn't like new missions
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