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L118[19:22:22] <TwistenX> I'm remastering Sonic.EXE B)
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L120[19:27:36] <packbart> I don't even know what that means
L121[19:31:19] <XXCoder> no idea either
L122[19:31:27] <XXCoder> guy just randomly do stuff like that and leave
L123[19:31:40] <umaxtu> kids these days
L124[19:32:11] <Althego> hehe
L125[19:32:18] <umaxtu> now lets get back to discussion shooting little green men into space
L126[19:32:28] <umaxtu> s/discussion/discussing/g
L127[19:32:31] <Althego> that is getting increasingly rare
L128[19:32:57] <Althego> back in my days it was everyday occurrence
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L131[19:51:50] <bees> umaxtu: You grab a kerbal with two Klaws. You are accused of being grossly unethical.
L132[19:54:23] <TwistenX> Kerbal Handcuffs
L133[19:59:09] <TwistenX> Wow, only three operators online
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L135[20:02:23] * umbralraptop x_x
L136[20:03:36] <TwistenX> umbralraptop: are you raptop and UmbralRaptor?
L137[20:03:46] <umbralraptop> yes
L138[20:04:06] <TwistenX> why do you need 3 accounts lmao
L139[20:05:14] <JVFoxy> I landed kerbals on the mountains behind the center. But it isn't your usual flying machine. 8 engines, two mk1 command pods, whole lot of wrestling with gyros
L140[20:05:21] <umbralraptop> multiple nicks so that I can deal with connection issues in various ways, but also laziness about setting up a bouncer
L141[20:05:30] <TwistenX> oh ok
L142[20:05:46] <TwistenX> JVFoxy: which engines?
L143[20:05:50] <JVFoxy> Junos
L144[20:05:59] <TwistenX> nice
L145[20:06:06] <JVFoxy> The wheezers cause too much problems aerodynamically
L146[20:06:23] <JVFoxy> also... the don't get enough air when stationary
L147[20:06:30] <TwistenX> guess the name fits
L148[20:06:51] <JVFoxy> ya but they really do good low and slow
L149[20:07:17] <TwistenX> sea-level rated jet engines
L150[20:07:17] <JVFoxy> basically I built a jet powered vtol thing. I've gotten good enough to get behind the power lag to do soft landings
L151[20:07:33] <TwistenX> drone
L152[20:07:59] <JVFoxy> trouble is, my usual 'tube with jet engines' can be a bit of a pain when it comes to landing vertically
L153[20:08:20] <TwistenX> part clipping
L154[20:08:22] <TwistenX> B)
L155[20:08:55] <JVFoxy> latest, I laid the body horizontal, and engines vertically. A nightmare to keep stable in flight and slower but.. now I'm not having to worry about tipping on landing
L156[20:09:32] <TwistenX> put some engines vertically and horizontally
L157[20:09:46] <JVFoxy> jeb and bob... got some science done on the mountains. Though seems I already got crew report from previous landing? I'm guessing from orbit?
L158[20:10:23] <umbralraptop> something something varying situations
L159[20:10:44] <umbralraptop> https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Science#Possible_combinations_of_Activity.2C_Situation.2C_and_Biome
L160[20:10:50] <TwistenX> KSP Science on first time: +50 science
L161[20:10:51] <TwistenX> KSP Science on second time: +0.2 science
L162[20:11:45] <JVFoxy> I usually dont' bother with second science on places because of such a small return
L163[20:12:11] <TwistenX> im terrible with spaceplanes
L164[20:12:26] <TwistenX> especially landing them back at the KSC
L165[20:12:41] <JVFoxy> lol.. craft in question on latest outing https://imgur.com/a/bzc97Ck
L166[20:13:30] <JVFoxy> With the engines inline with the body, it pushes about 600+m/s easily. I've had one case where I was stalling an engine or two cuz of the speed a while back
L167[20:13:38] <TwistenX> 1950s: In 2021, we'll have flying cars!
L168[20:13:38] <TwistenX> 2021: Flying cars in 2021... (Image above)
L169[20:14:10] <JVFoxy> I have done a little drone type car thing, using 8 juno's, 2 on each of the I-beam struts
L170[20:14:21] <JVFoxy> used the inline cockpit..
L171[20:14:29] <TwistenX> I-Beams can take one hell of a beating
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L173[20:15:46] <TwistenX> wow would you look at that it's me but on my phone
L174[20:15:47] <JVFoxy> I have done more traditional craft though. Bullet (sort of a race car of the sky): https://imgur.com/a/ominrCL
L175[20:16:02] <TristenX> the maneuverable bullet
L176[20:17:52] <TwistenX> why is it that the first comet that appears in the tracking station is always spawned in the same area in nearly all save files
L177[20:17:55] <JVFoxy> elevator on the back is interesting.. use both for takeoff-landing. turn one off while in high speed flight. Otherwise the extra control wrecks havoc with the SAS
L178[20:19:09] <TristenX> one of the rockets i built did a backflip because it wasn't sure which probe it was supposed to control from so their reaction wheels were just fighting each other
L179[20:19:24] <TristenX> i also encountered something weird when the rocket crashed
L180[20:20:14] <TwistenX> It said
L181[20:20:20] <JVFoxy> start building a rocket with probe control, add a command pod. Everythings fine at launch. Later, load same craft, oh look Jeb hi-jack's the seat like usual
L182[20:21:01] <TwistenX> "[00:00:04] Communotron 16 crashed into model_launchpad_ground_collider_v46."
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L184[20:21:14] <JVFoxy> lol..
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L186[20:21:58] <JVFoxy> I was time warping. I didn't slow it down soon enough. Craft ended up nearly 300 km under ground. Craft crushed by 1.5million kilo pascals or something. I got a screen shot but its on other system
L187[20:22:58] <TwistenX> That's quarter-way through Kerbin
L188[20:23:26] <JVFoxy> TwistenX just be glad, in the days, was a presision error, or at least we think that was causing it, craft wings would clip the VAB even though you were still on approach to the runway 3 km out.
L189[20:24:15] <TwistenX> physics
L190[20:25:21] <JVFoxy> also psycho colors from graphics glitches. loaded on launch pad in a version not long ago, guessing image map for pad surface didn't load right
L191[20:26:07] <JVFoxy> Mind you, Danny has done some far worse things, surprised copy on their system didn't just give up the ghost then and htere
L192[20:26:16] <TwistenX> anyone could've been Danny2464 back then
L193[20:26:38] <TwistenX> glitchy af
L194[20:27:56] <TwistenX> also I'm gonna make a Rocket Simulator game that's gonna be similar to KSP, but in 2D
L195[20:30:35] <JVFoxy> a lot of people doing bases on other planets/moons. I'd like to maybe do a polar station, but it has to be maintained with supplies and slowly upgraded.
L196[20:31:15] <TwistenX> that's a colony, not a base
L197[20:31:26] <packbart> I remember playing this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh4rD124Ssc&t=1m5s
L198[20:31:59] <TwistenX> that game looks old
L199[20:32:03] <JVFoxy> I'd done a few crafts with help of Airplanes+ mod. Trouble was, how to ship a helo out there by plane. Tiny heli, turns out anything bigger, I would have to ship by boat over. Most of the rotors wouldn't fit in the cargo containers I had at the time.
L200[20:32:35] <TwistenX> i cant download mods :,)
L201[20:34:48] <JVFoxy> eh
L202[20:35:14] <TwistenX> ksp console gang rise up
L203[20:36:18] <XXCoder> heh ill never forget my snowflake. no engine at all besides short initial rocket
L204[20:36:42] <XXCoder> extreme speed, and highest it went is over 100k
L205[20:36:51] <TwistenX> ok
L206[20:39:09] <XXCoder> man it was so broken
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L208[20:39:30] <XXCoder> even if i fail to trigger the effect and it expodes, parts tend to stay in air
L209[20:46:18] <JVFoxy> canard plane with single wheezer, do'n 530m/s.. wee
L210[20:49:04] <JVFoxy> might do a twin engine.. got some time to spare cuz its dark, before I do my mun mission
L211[20:52:20] * darsie made an alcohol rocket: https://vimeo.com/611064278
L212[20:52:43] <TwistenX> wow
L213[20:53:07] <darsie> It's much more spectacular irl.
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L215[20:53:28] <TwistenX2> h
L216[20:53:39] <TwistenX2> https://youtu.be/J2tEBe07vOg
L217[20:54:01] <TwistenX2> ok i leave now
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L219[20:58:54] <TwistenX> i'm remastering the game that gave me mental trauma as a toddler
L220[20:58:57] <TwistenX> ironic
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L223[21:11:12] <TwistenX> "You're too slow. Want to try again?"
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L237[22:23:42] <TwistenX> .
L238[22:24:17] <darsie> .
L239[22:24:37] <darsie> another alcohol rocket: https://vimeo.com/611106325
L240[22:25:55] <TwistenX> dr pepper and mentos rocket B)
L241[22:26:20] <TwistenX> what do you think would happen to you if you ate a bunch of mentos and then jumped into a pool of coca cola
L242[22:28:23] <umbralraptop> you'd be covered in coca-cola
L243[22:28:52] <darsie> Your blood sugar would rise and you'd waste a big amount of a bad drink.
L244[22:28:52] <TwistenX> you wouldnt explode or anything?
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L246[22:29:26] <darsie> Your eyes might hurt.
L247[22:29:47] <TwistenX> mm
L248[22:29:55] <darsie> If it started to foam you might be unable to swim and sink.
L249[22:30:19] <TwistenX> f
L250[22:30:28] <darsie> Then you'd no longer be childish ;).
L251[22:30:35] <TwistenX> cuz you'd be dead
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L253[22:31:37] <TwistenX> also i want some context, darsie
L254[22:31:40] <FLHerne> I hear swallowing liquid nitrogen is bad for you
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L256[22:31:55] <FLHerne> not so much because it's cold, but because it vaporises and expands in your stomach
L257[22:32:16] <TwistenX> what did you mean when you said "." after i said i was gonna remaster Sonic.EXE a few days ago?
L258[22:32:30] <FLHerne> so maybe consuming both coca-cola and mentos would be bad, but isn't the cola's role just to be acidic?
L259[22:32:41] <FLHerne> your stomach is more acidic
L260[22:32:51] <FLHerne> so probably just don't eat too many mentos
L261[22:33:02] <TwistenX> stomach explosion
L262[22:33:25] <darsie> . means I said nothing.
L263[22:33:34] <FLHerne> Hm, on further research I was completely wrong about what's happening there :p
L264[22:33:47] <TwistenX> ah, but that means you saw what i said
L265[22:33:55] <darsie> Probably.
L266[22:34:52] <TwistenX> liquid nitrogen: bad
L267[22:34:52] <TwistenX> gas nitrogen: literally over 70% of our atmosphere
L268[22:35:31] <umbralraptop> Mind the something like 700x expansion in volume when liquid nitrogen boils
L269[22:36:11] <TwistenX> the gas expands, or the liquid?
L270[22:36:41] <umbralraptop> The expansion when it turns from a liquid into a gas
L271[22:37:25] <TwistenX> so gas nitrogen has a larger volume and much less density than liquid nitrogen?
L272[22:37:49] <darsie> yes
L273[22:37:57] <TwistenX> ok
L274[22:39:00] <TwistenX> your bot is broken, FLHerne
L275[22:40:03] <FLHerne> No it isn't
L276[22:40:16] <TwistenX> lunchbot?
L277[22:40:20] <darsie> .tell FLHerne your bot is broken.
L278[22:40:37] <TwistenX> it doesn't say anything when i tell it "/wenhop"
L279[22:43:22] <FLHerne> good
L280[22:43:30] <TwistenX> ???
L281[22:43:53] <TwistenX> how is that good
L282[22:44:12] <FLHerne> It shouldn't, so if it did I'd wonder why
L283[22:44:16] <FLHerne> and have to fix that
L284[22:44:23] <TwistenX> oh
L285[22:45:11] <TwistenX> how come the tracking station will say that you're on an escape trajectory out of Kerbol, but Kerbol's SOI is infinite?
L286[22:45:49] <darsie> It's not infinit. At least in stock.
L287[22:45:54] <darsie> ohh, Kerbol.
L288[22:46:05] <darsie> Well, because you reached escape velocity.
L289[22:46:23] <darsie> Kerbol slows you down, but you keep falling up.
L290[22:46:30] <TwistenX> ohh
L291[22:46:54] <TwistenX> falling but never landing: simplest way to explain orbital mechanics
L292[22:49:05] <darsie> When you throw a wrench away in space, it's attracted to you, but not enough to turn around. It'll keep falling away from you.
L293[22:49:36] <TwistenX> that's cause your escape velocity is too low
L294[22:49:37] <darsie> There may be other forces, too.
L295[22:49:39] <darsie> yes
L296[22:49:54] <darsie> Or because you threw it too fast.
L297[22:50:09] <darsie> Two platinum spheres can orbit each other within a few hours.
L298[22:50:36] <TwistenX> although, you are pulling anything's atoms off that is within a few inches of your center of mass
L299[22:51:13] <darsie> I wouldn't say that.
L300[22:51:26] <TwistenX> but VSauce Michael told me that
L301[22:51:46] <darsie> Well, a few inches from my CoM may be inside me.
L302[22:51:53] <TwistenX> maybe not a few inches
L303[22:52:13] <TwistenX> it depends on your mass and density ig
L304[22:52:43] <darsie> Tidal forces can tear a body apart.
L305[22:52:51] <TwistenX> yes
L306[22:53:39] <TwistenX> if you threw a rock into orbit around earth, would that make it a natural satellite?
L307[22:53:46] <TwistenX> small rock*
L308[22:55:05] <darsie> A natural satellite is in the most common usage, an astronomical body that orbits a planet, dwarf planet, or small solar system body (or sometimes another natural satellite).
L309[22:55:27] <TwistenX> so that's a yes
L310[22:55:47] <darsie> It probably didn't consider your scenario.
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L312[22:56:22] <TwistenX> i dont think it did
L313[22:56:51] <TwistenX> i think it has to be placed their by gravity and not an interfering force (i.e. a human throwing it into space)
L314[22:57:16] <darsie> What if we redirected an asteroid into an Earth orbit?
L315[22:57:35] <TwistenX> natural-artificial
L316[22:57:42] <TwistenX> both
L317[22:58:42] <TwistenX> it was artificially placed, yet naturally "constructed" in space
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L320[23:00:17] <darsie> TwistenX: Would you like to go to Mars?
L321[23:00:45] <TwistenX> yes
L322[23:00:53] <darsie> For how long?
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L324[23:01:18] <TwistenX> not for terribly long, probably until the next Mars-to-Earth transfer window
L325[23:01:34] <darsie> ok
L326[23:01:40] <darsie> How much would you pay for it?
L327[23:01:51] <TwistenX> as much as it costs
L328[23:01:56] <darsie> ok
L329[23:03:03] <TwistenX> why?
L330[23:03:11] <umaxtu> its easy when its not your money you're spending
L331[23:03:13] <darsie> no reason
L332[23:03:39] <darsie> just curious
L333[23:04:15] <TwistenX> hmmm
L334[23:04:47] <TwistenX> how much is one of those flights on the Virgin Spaceplane right now?
L335[23:05:58] <darsie> For some it's millions. For some it's free.
L336[23:06:54] <TwistenX> i dont have very many millions to spend
L337[23:09:02] <TwistenX> i need to get friends with elon musk so he can hook me up with a free ride on the starship
L338[23:10:18] <darsie> Virgin Galactic is selling tickets to space again, now for $450,000 per seat https://www.space.com/virgin-galactic-raises-space-ticket-price
L339[23:10:50] <TwistenX> wow
L340[23:11:15] <darsie> Study hard, become an engineer or pilot and get a job at spacex.
L341[23:11:29] <TwistenX> that's my dream job rn
L342[23:11:34] <TwistenX> one of 'em
L343[23:12:24] <TwistenX> hey, i need you guys to send me the scariest remix of the drowning theme from Sonic
L344[23:16:57] <TwistenX> darsie: i feel like you're gonna name a kerbal after me and strand me on duna
L345[23:17:24] <darsie> I'm not motivated enough to fly to Duna.
L346[23:17:33] <TwistenX> oh good
L347[23:17:56] <bees> bottom of eve's ocean would be better
L348[23:18:03] <darsie> And naming Kerbals is cheating. I tend not to cheat.
L349[23:18:19] <TwistenX> how is that cheating
L350[23:18:26] <TwistenX> does it require file editing?
L351[23:18:49] <darsie> It's done in the shift-F12 menu, I guess.
L352[23:19:08] <TwistenX> CHEAT MENU
L353[23:19:19] <TwistenX> rip whack-a-kerbal
L354[23:20:43] <TwistenX> I'm also assuming you can't get the cheat menu in Console KSP
L355[23:21:00] <darsie> TwistenX: I might strand you on the Mun with a full jetpack and a rocket in orbit waiting for you ;).
L356[23:21:30] <TwistenX> i'm probably the most hated in this server, i'm not even mad
L357[23:21:38] <TwistenX> i would strand myself on the Mun
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L359[23:26:00] <TwistenX> POV: You tried to cheat in Sonic.EXE (Remake):
L360[23:26:02] <TwistenX> 何? この秘密のメニューをどうやって手に入れたのですか? あなたは最初にトゥルーエンディングを手に入れました! あなたは迷惑なコードリーダー....
L361[23:26:21] <TwistenX> umbralraptop
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L365[23:29:23] <TwistenX> he returns
L366[23:32:08] <TwistenX> do you trust me with mod perms?
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L368[23:46:35] <packbart> nah
L369[23:47:54] <packbart> Jake scaled down the rotor-driven Eve Ascent thingy. something to watch in bed
L370[23:48:26] <packbart> it's probably going to kraken out, anywaay
L371[23:48:50] <packbart> oh, it's actually ascending
L372[23:49:12] <darsie> gn
L373[23:49:25] <XXCoder> wonder if that guy has add or something
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