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L33[08:32:28] <Mat2ch> raptop: they are already the monopoly... and show a capital flaw in a finance system we all use but are not allowed to discuss here ;)
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L41[12:08:19] <Althego> hehe, sodafunk. freetalk, not a debut. sure...
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L49[14:20:58] <Althego> haha papers please music instead of the usual intro
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L51[14:23:56] <Althego> kikkerikii
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L55[15:36:33] <raptop> Apparently GOG has a free game where you ride the trans-siberian railroad
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L58[17:00:55] <Mat2ch> not really "ride"...
L59[17:01:00] <Mat2ch> just some pictures
L60[17:01:05] <Mat2ch> and some buttons to click on
L61[17:03:27] * flayer is tired
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L63[17:08:17] <flayer> ty
L64[17:14:32] <Mat2ch> Wellllll https://www.gao.gov/press-release/statement-blue-origin-dynetics-decision
L65[17:16:01] <flayer> i really hope spacex can make that thing land on the moon
L66[17:16:08] <flayer> it seems exceptionally difficult tho
L67[17:18:55] <Althego> it didnt get easier since 69
L68[17:19:23] <flayer> and landing that huge tall rocket on the moon... i dunno
L69[17:19:33] <Althego> i would never do that in ksp
L70[17:19:37] <Althego> it would flip instantlu
L71[17:19:42] <flayer> indeed
L72[17:19:55] <Althego> maybe if something landed before and made a flat horizontal landing pad
L73[17:20:10] <flayer> yeah, i'm thinking that too
L74[17:20:23] <flayer> but we'll see
L75[17:20:25] <Althego> that can be small and unmanned
L76[17:20:43] <flayer> they gotta get to orbit first!
L77[17:20:47] <Althego> land during the day, operates from solar, and it can make a flat surface in a few weeks before the sun sets
L78[17:22:46] <Althego> so what is this gao?
L79[17:28:49] <Althego> does this mean there will be no second contract, only spacex?
L80[17:30:53] <Mat2ch> Althego: it is possible, but... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dICrBvTlqsg
L81[17:31:24] <Mat2ch> and with the fixed landing legs in KSP it should be possible to land such a tall thing now
L82[17:31:33] <Mat2ch> and don't forget: Very low CoM.
L83[17:31:45] <Althego> i see several problems with the spacex ship. one is that it is so tall. other it uses methane because it is designed for mars. should be hydrolox for moon
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L85[17:32:34] <Althego> but since it is ultimately moving between earth and the moon, this is not that big of a problem
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L88[18:18:05] <Mat2ch> Althego: Do you see a problem with methane?
L89[18:18:50] <Althego> there is water on the moon. not much carbon
L90[18:19:52] <raptop> ^the boring but reasonable answer
L91[18:20:17] <Althego> as i said the whole methane engine is tuned for mars refueling
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L93[18:26:53] <Mat2ch> there will be no refueling on the Moon...
L94[18:30:08] <flayer> i'm not sure how well it will work on mars either
L95[18:30:32] <Althego> but there could be with hydrolox
L96[18:32:20] <packbart> Nauka-Scott. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTR5evpFLb4
L97[18:32:51] <flayer> is the space station safe again?
L98[18:34:21] <raptop> Unfortunately, this incident means that Nauka is now classified as Euclid
L99[18:35:18] <sandbox> C-Finder
L100[18:37:13] <Mat2ch> you could crush minerals on the Moon to get some carbon...
L101[18:39:09] <darsie> Mat2ch: Carbon?
L102[18:39:30] <darsie> I haven't heard of carbon on the Moon before.
L103[18:41:37] <Mat2ch> darsie: maybe in minerals
L104[18:41:48] <darsie> [citation needed]
L105[18:41:50] <darsie> ;)
L106[18:43:58] <Mat2ch> maaaaaaaaayyyyyybbbbbeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ;P
L107[18:44:31] <raptop> So much aluminum and oxygen to sort through...
L108[18:45:35] <darsie> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Moon_vs_earth_composition.svg
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L110[18:50:06] <Althego> if you find sometihng that contains carbon
L111[18:50:17] <Althego> there may be some, but rare
L112[18:53:10] <darsie> Maybe more water than carbon.
L113[18:58:54] <raptop> contrast with Mars where I want to say that the carbon per cubic meter of atmosphere is higher than on Earth
L114[18:59:18] <Althego> not if we can help it :)
L115[18:59:28] <Althego> by of course increasing it here
L116[18:59:36] <raptop> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
L117[19:00:00] <raptop> (not so much imitating Gura as screaming in terror)
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L121[20:04:35] <Althego> wah
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L124[20:48:36] <packbart> T-12min https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APrSXjku-hk
L125[20:50:14] <packbart> aaand it's gone
L126[20:50:40] <packbart> ah. weird
L127[20:53:18] <Althego> ah i forgot about this
L128[21:01:24] <Althego> disappeared into the clouds in seconds
L129[21:01:33] <Althego> that is it for the live part. enjoy watching the cg
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L132[21:22:36] <Mat2ch> the quality of ariane space can be seen in the countdown, which is filmed from a display.
L133[21:22:57] <Mat2ch> and therefore fuzzy.
L134[21:27:03] <Althego> lol
L135[21:34:58] <Alanonzander> Does that mean they are all CGI ? :P
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