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L4[00:51:44] <Eddi|zuHause> i probably should have brought landing legs to the mun
L5[00:52:20] <raptop> Mün, Minmus flats, close enough
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L34[09:35:46] <Mat2ch> Soooo, SpaceX really wants to do a static fire test with Booster 3?
L35[09:39:37] <Althego> why not
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L38[09:57:15] <Mat2ch> Althego: I wonder why they do it. To get test data? Test the structure?
L39[09:57:21] <Mat2ch> They are not going to attach all engines to it
L40[09:57:31] <Mat2ch> at least I think so
L41[09:58:22] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: I hope they told you that you will reach full 5 G reception in two weeks. ;)
L42[10:05:01] <Rolf> its unlimited data too
L43[10:06:00] <Althego> unlimited power!
L44[10:06:20] <Rolf> its over 9000tb!!!!!!!!
L45[10:12:28] <Althego> eu approves chatcontrol. what a mess. and we cant talk about it here.
L46[10:13:39] <darsie> What could you possibly transmit to transfer 9000 TB? 5 D video (see, hear, feel, smell, taste)?
L47[10:14:39] <darsie> Neuralink?
L48[10:15:00] <bees> raw sensor data
L49[10:15:25] <darsie> A buy (web)server?
L50[10:15:28] <darsie> busy*
L51[10:16:23] <darsie> Uncompressed video
L52[10:19:25] <Althego> actually humans collect most information by vision. overwhelmingly. and most of that is black and white data. so even if you add other channels, it wouldnt amount to much
L53[10:26:50] <darsie> Has there been smell cinema?
L54[10:27:44] <darsie> Can't be so hard to put some ducts under the seats, preload them with fresh scent and open sliders at the appropriate time.
L55[10:28:25] <Althego> would get to you slowly
L56[10:28:38] <Althego> maybe if there was some pipe up to your nose
L57[10:29:06] <darsie> Can be pretty fast, with a permanent up draft.
L58[10:29:55] <darsie> Or maybe 2-3 smell lines.
L59[10:30:01] <darsie> gtg, bbl
L60[10:39:40] <Mat2ch> Althego: One sentence: Probably get's disallowed by the ECJ
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L62[11:18:06] <Fluburtur> yeah but I already feel it beginning to get better
L63[11:38:58] <Mat2ch> Good for you. Will get my second shot in five weeks.
L64[11:39:35] <Althego> for me in about two weeks
L65[11:39:42] <Mat2ch> But it's Biontech, which means no 5G for me, since it's a German thing and we don't get good internet connection anywhere.
L66[11:41:06] <Althego> hehe
L67[11:41:29] <Althego> the best (then 3g) connection i got in germany was always inside military bases :)
L68[11:41:46] <Althego> hotels usually had wifi and 3g problems too
L69[11:50:19] <bees> Mat2ch: you will have a voice whispering random german words at you
L70[11:50:32] <bees> weighted towards long ones
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L72[11:58:13] <Mat2ch> bees: oh, that's ok, I hope they're able to silence the other voices in my head :P
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L78[12:05:26] <minas_tirith> bees, bzzt bzzt
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L81[12:34:20] <Eddi|zuHause> Althego: well... the sad thing is the broadband fibre coverage is worse than the 5g coverage :p
L82[12:34:31] <Althego> hehe
L83[12:34:35] <Althego> starlink to the rescue
L84[12:35:34] <Althego> supposedly the net in austria is expensive and slow too. at least a certain bird says so
L85[12:35:37] <Eddi|zuHause> there was a thing 30-ish years ago where the government/corruption/whatever decided that copper was the way to go
L86[12:35:46] <Althego> lol
L87[12:36:21] <Eddi|zuHause> and now they're stacking hacks upon hacks to keep that "last mile" copper thing alive... "vectoring" and stuff
L88[12:37:04] <Eddi|zuHause> which means it'll be the same in 20-30 years from now. nobody is going to fix the problem
L89[12:37:38] <Althego> must be like how roads are kept operational here
L90[12:38:50] <Eddi|zuHause> let's not talk about roads... or i'll have to explain the word "betonkrebs"...
L91[12:41:32] <Eddi|zuHause> aanyway... this is basically the reason why you can get the same internet connection speed in romania for like 1/5 the price
L92[12:43:18] <umaxtu> brb, moving to Romania
L93[12:43:23] <Althego> hehe
L94[12:44:28] <umaxtu> to be fair, I have gigabit fiber for < $100 a month, but I can't use my own router
L95[12:44:36] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm having a different problem though... i forgot to put a heat shield on my mun return vessel
L96[12:44:44] <umaxtu> oops
L97[12:44:46] <Althego> hehe
L98[12:44:51] <Althego> just do many passes
L99[12:45:02] <Eddi|zuHause> tried that... still exploded
L100[12:46:28] <Eddi|zuHause> i have a kerbin PE of 45km, which worked fine for reducing the AP, but on the pass where the AP went <70km, it exploded
L101[12:46:56] <Althego> strange. 100% heating?
L102[12:47:16] <bees> save whatever dv remaining for final pass
L103[12:47:19] <bees> and make it steeper
L104[12:47:31] <Althego> because at point it is like coming back from low orbit, and you dont need a heat shield for that
L105[12:47:46] <bees> you got hit by accumulated heat in high atmo
L106[12:47:46] <Eddi|zuHause> i have 600m/s remaining
L107[12:47:55] <bees> by going too shallow
L108[12:48:11] <Eddi|zuHause> right
L109[12:48:21] <Althego> faster slow down helps. so maybe 20 km periapsis?
L110[12:48:28] <Althego> and use up the remaiing delta v
L111[12:48:40] <bees> 600 m/s would be a giant overkill, tbh
L112[12:48:44] <Eddi|zuHause> i had 30km before, there it exploded much earlier
L113[12:48:51] <Althego> hehe
L114[12:49:19] <bees> ~200 is usually enough if you dont have 1200k parts exposed
L115[12:49:34] <Althego> yes, most of the slow done can be done by the atmosphere
L116[12:49:54] <Althego> usually capsules explode for me if they flip in the wrong direction
L117[12:50:01] <Althego> and then there is an overheating cascade
L118[12:50:31] <Eddi|zuHause> i put the engine in front
L119[12:50:46] <Eddi|zuHause> it's a terrier engine
L120[12:52:38] <bees> so use majority of your dv to slow down from moon (to save time), do passes at 45km until ~120k AP, then drop to 20km PE and use remaining dv in atmo when you start to overheat
L121[12:52:44] <bees> i assume you reentry engine first
L122[12:55:36] <Eddi|zuHause> the first pass lowers AP to around 4.5Mm, which takes around 4h roundtrip
L123[12:58:40] <bees> i mean save real time
L124[13:00:12] <Eddi|zuHause> i have plenty of that :p
L125[13:05:05] <Eddi|zuHause> hm... according to https://op.europa.eu/webpub/eca/special-reports/broadband-12-2018/img/En_annex01.png france and greece are worse than germany
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L127[13:11:37] <Althego> https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/DILUEvStls.png
L128[13:12:51] <Eddi|zuHause> what exactly is pulled pork anyway?
L129[13:13:05] <Althego> that ius the only actual food that exist from that diagram
L130[13:13:14] <Eddi|zuHause> yes
L131[13:13:19] <Eddi|zuHause> but what is it?
L132[13:14:07] <Althego> meat from pig that looks like it was shred to small pieces
L133[13:14:52] <Eddi|zuHause> so it would mean Mett :)
L134[13:16:59] <Eddi|zuHause> no.. that doesn't look anything like Mett
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L137[13:40:03] <Althego> hehe bird cant stream because of charging problem on the capture phine
L138[13:44:29] <raptop> SnoopJ: oh no
L139[13:45:11] <SnoopJ> chaotic pork?
L140[13:46:08] <raptop> chaotic pork is when a lorenz butterfly flaps over your plots
L141[13:47:43] <Eddi|zuHause> chaotic good pork?
L142[13:47:49] <Althego> hehe
L143[13:53:06] <Eddi|zuHause> you know what's annoying? when watering, and the craft wobbles up and down in the water, you can't press the "recover" button because it's moving too fast
L144[13:53:32] <Eddi|zuHause> now... i got 690 science from the mun landing
L145[13:53:55] <Althego> hehe i was wondering what watering would mean in the context of rockets :)
L146[13:54:17] <Eddi|zuHause> it's like landing. but in the water.
L147[13:54:32] <Althego> yes, but watering is what you do to plants
L148[13:54:34] <Eddi|zuHause> it's not like you put water on the rocket and it grows :p
L149[13:54:44] <Althego> anyway, yes, annyoing
L150[13:56:08] <Eddi|zuHause> now... the usual decision paralysis... what do i research?
L151[13:57:23] * raptop is pretty sure that's how rocket gardens work
L152[14:04:29] <Althego> i know of atomic gardening, but not rocket gardening
L153[14:06:03] <Althego> so, first bezos, then nauka. somehow they have to connect the new module
L154[14:10:24] <Althego> hopefully both go to space next week
L155[14:14:30] <umaxtu> I thought Bezos was the 30th
L156[14:15:16] <Althego> i see 20th
L157[14:16:06] <umaxtu> I guess I was mistaken
L158[14:16:39] <umaxtu> so Branson had Colbert on his webcast, who do you think Bozos is going to have?
L159[14:17:32] <Althego> hopefully nobody
L160[14:17:51] <umaxtu> Colbert is a ULA shill anyway :D
L161[14:18:53] <raptop> Obviously Colbert should interview Tory
L162[14:19:40] <umaxtu> could be interesting
L163[14:22:44] <Althego> no, elon should interview tory :)
L164[14:24:55] <raptop> Nah, Shotwell
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L166[14:47:25] <Eddi|zuHause> when i put rover wheels on a thing... can i somehow change which direction is forward?
L167[14:47:35] <Eddi|zuHause> because the steering is all wrong
L168[14:47:56] <Eddi|zuHause> i have an OKTO as probe core, but i don't want to rotate it
L169[14:48:00] <Althego> some items have an option in the right click menu
L170[14:48:43] <Eddi|zuHause> "Control Point: Forward"?
L171[14:50:18] <Althego> that
L172[14:52:47] <Eddi|zuHause> so... forward/backward works, but left/right is all wrong. and navball is 90° rotated... shows heading north when i'm driving west
L173[14:58:17] <packbart> stick a small docking port on its nose
L174[15:01:56] <darsie> picoport ftw
L175[15:02:00] <darsie> 5 kg
L176[15:02:18] <Eddi|zuHause> ok, now left/right works, but forward is backward :p
L177[15:02:36] <Eddi|zuHause> and i have not enough solar panels
L178[15:17:10] <Eddi|zuHause> now i have sort of an automated rover. but no launch vehicle to get it to the mun
L179[15:19:39] <Althego> kikkerikii
L180[15:20:10] <Althego> haha it was a cable problem
L181[15:20:26] <Althego> but now it is going to overlap with ame
L182[15:21:07] <raptop> Did a cat chew on the cable?
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L189[18:06:23] <Althego> hehe fresh bread eating. what a content
L190[18:09:26] <Althego> + cat purring
L191[18:09:43] <raptop> caaaat
L192[18:12:58] <Althego> finally, i found it, the written data count is incremented for every 32 megabytes. smartctl in buster doesnt know about the discontinued intel dc s4500 and s4600.
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L194[18:59:08] * darsie built a fast car to get some surface samples and EVA reports: https://i.postimg.cc/vG9BWpvZ/screenshot146.png
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L199[19:47:20] <darsie> The olivine formation was to far below the base plane of the arm, but with the RW I could tilt it :) https://i.postimg.cc/Xn69RMxT/screenshot155.png
L200[19:48:22] * raptop has no idea if the olivine is stock or a mod
L201[19:54:27] <raptop> Althego: consider: cirno and gura are the same person
L202[19:54:35] <Althego> hmm
L203[19:54:39] <Althego> blue
L204[19:54:55] <raptop> smol
L205[19:54:58] <Althego> but the teeth
L206[19:55:03] <raptop> no thoughts, head empty
L207[19:55:47] <Althego> cant listen to scott over two streams
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L212[20:28:49] <darsie> I broke my arm :(.
L213[20:29:10] <darsie> going 50 m/s.
L214[20:29:43] <darsie> raptop: stock
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L220[21:10:09] * darsie roved like 80 km.
L221[21:13:07] <darsie> This was fun: https://i.postimg.cc/kn06LzQ2/screenshot158.png
L222[21:13:08] <darsie> But this was scary: https://i.postimg.cc/08FDPbs2/screenshot166.png
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L224[21:18:02] <raptop> whee
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L227[21:20:47] <Solar_Oracle> Everybody dead? I mean alive.
L228[21:21:53] <darsie> .
L229[21:22:07] <Solar_Oracle> More corpses to convert into kethane!
L230[21:27:22] * raptop skitters away
L231[21:28:28] <Solar_Oracle> I think I'll do a whole bunch of chapter updates tonight so I can transition to a new program.
L232[21:28:47] <Solar_Oracle> One which will secure my rightful place as . . . Something other than that one person that reads terrible books.
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L234[21:59:02] <raptop> "If you want to get good at speedrunning, get good at spreadsheets"
L235[22:00:44] <Solar_Oracle> Speedrunning for what, EVE Online?
L236[22:01:06] <raptop> Heh
L237[22:01:14] <raptop> Surprisingly enough Doom Eternal
L238[22:01:31] <Solar_Oracle> I'm sure there's some material for a peer reviewed paper right there.
L239[22:01:56] <Solar_Oracle> "Speedrunning through Doom Eternal with the help of neural-networks: An analysis"
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L242[22:08:15] <Solar_Oracle> "Discussion: Git gud, scrub."
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L244[22:17:26] <umaxtu> I mean, as far as I can tell, Doom Eternal is a technical marvel in terms of optimization
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L247[22:27:01] <Solar_Oracle> Oh, remember those grav rifles with the relativistic projectiles? They have pistol versions, too.
L248[22:29:30] <raptop> Like a certain xeelee weapon?
L249[22:30:38] <Solar_Oracle> Unfortunately, or perhaps fortunately, they can't make stars go nova.
L250[22:31:02] <Solar_Oracle> Xeelee pistol op plz nerf.
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L253[23:06:38] <Solar_Oracle> And another chapter up.
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L256[23:11:18] <minas_tirith> Solar_Oracle
L257[23:11:39] <Solar_Oracle> DO YOU WISH TO CONSULT THE ORACLE?
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L260[23:29:23] <Solar_Oracle> Guess not, then.
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