L4[00:31:24] <flayer> sigh

L35[04:12:35] <RoboFreak> i would be so happy if these enforced disconnects happened 3 in th morning when i am not awake

L42[05:37:02] <Althego> https://mars.nasa.gov/technology/helicopter/status/306/ingenuity-flight-7-preview/

L43[05:37:36] <Althego> https://twitter.com/NASAJPL/status/1400483368039370756

L54[07:57:45] <Althego> docking https://youtu.be/21X5lGlDOfg

L55[07:57:57] <Althego> all those thrusters firing

L59[08:53:56] <Althego> double combo. watching a spacecraft dock live while listening to a falt earth "debate"

L60[08:55:00] <Althego> why do i write flat as falt this often

L61[09:03:29] <flayer> poor motor control

L62[09:06:03] <Althego> finally summer set in. some people have serious fun. they put out a grill, tent, tables, benches, and even a bouncy castle. never seen this happen in the 35 years i lived here

L64[09:07:49] <flayer> i'm gonna head to the store for candies and alcohol (and also proper food/drink)

L65[09:08:51] <Althego> docking always happens in the dark

L66[09:08:56] <Althego> in real life too :)

L67[09:08:58] <flayer> teehee

L68[09:09:17] <Althego> you can barely see anything in the stream

L69[09:49:24] <Althego> wait, sun can bounce off radar? i thought plasma would absorb it

L70[09:51:49] <flayer> any matter

L71[09:51:55] <flayer> clouds deflect radio

L72[09:53:11] <Althego> yes, but there is the plasma blackout during deorbit, and i think there is some stealth tech developed based on plasma

L73[09:53:48] <flayer> plasma blackout just stops radio signals

L74[09:53:56] <flayer> probably because the plasma deflects the radio..

L75[09:54:25] <Althego> hmm i never thought of that. not absorb but reflect

L76[09:54:32] <Althego> can be

L77[10:10:41] <flayer> https://www.cv.nrao.edu/~sransom/web/A4.html

L78[10:11:01] <flayer> i don't understand anything written there but maybe it makes sense to you

L79[10:14:08] <Mat2ch> oh, I have something fun for you

L80[10:14:14] <Mat2ch> https://www.uaptheory.com/

L81[10:14:16] <Mat2ch> :D

L82[10:14:38] <Mat2ch> the worst part: They make some good assumptions :P

L83[10:17:28] <flayer> i skimmed over some bits

L84[10:17:36] <flayer> they make some good assumptions about intelligent life being out there

L85[10:18:03] <flayer> but if they draw the conclusion that things that people on earth see are in fact aliens, then they draw ridiculous conclusions

L87[10:24:53] <Mat2ch> flayer: the argument is something like: The most detailed sightings are from the 2000. If someone on earth hah this technology at that point, they would have started to develop it at least 20 years earlier. So in 1980. They would have had to make prototypes 20 years earlier from that, we are talking about 1960 now. And that means that they would have had the theory at least 10

L88[10:24:55] <Mat2ch> years earlier, so in 1950.

L89[10:25:02] <Mat2ch> This is possible, but very unlikely.

L90[10:26:07] <Mat2ch> It is entirely possible that there's another intelligent species on this planet hiding in the oceans that developed earlier than we did

L91[10:32:54] <flayer> i believe in an ancient crab society that lived like the romans did, dozens of millions of years ago

L92[10:33:19] <Mat2ch> possible.

L93[10:33:20] <flayer> at the bottom of the ocean

L94[10:33:22] <Mat2ch> Entirely possible.

L95[10:33:34] <Mat2ch> We know nothing about the depth of our ocean

L96[10:33:37] <flayer> indeed

L97[10:34:39] <flayer> and there would be almost no proof of it, due to erosion

L98[10:35:12] <Mat2ch> jep

L99[10:35:16] <Mat2ch> well

L100[10:35:32] <Mat2ch> I'm not sure how good erosion works underwater.

L101[10:45:01] <flayer> i'm pretty sure ancient roman crab society will have been buried in mud either way

L106[13:19:00] <Althego> !nela

L107[13:19:00] <Kerbot> Althego => Falcon 9 - SXM-8 - Sun Jun 06, 2021 04:26:00 UTC (L-15:07:41) - https://rocketlaunch.live/launch/sxm-8 for info/stream

L108[13:24:57] <Althego> but no stream yet

L109[13:25:55] <a_flayer> my low tech ssto spaceplane is really quite easy to fly and reliable now

L110[13:26:04] <Althego> nice

L111[13:26:11] <Althego> easy to fly ssto sounds an oxymoron

L112[13:26:57] <a_flayer> you just pop it on the trajectory and hit spacebar at 800m/s

L113[13:28:04] <a_flayer> it lifts off quite easily as well

L114[13:28:42] <a_flayer> can bring 5 tons into orbit a fairly spacious cargo hold

L115[13:58:11] <a_flayer> and i can use it for polar excursions too!

L116[14:02:52] <a_flayer> it flies almost just as stable going at x4 speed as it does at x1

L117[14:08:35] <a_flayer> whoops burnt off the engines somehow

L118[14:08:57] <a_flayer> (I wasn't looking at it fly at all lol)

L119[14:11:26] <a_flayer> i'm gonna add some hotkeys to set the flaps to aerobraking

L124[15:28:57] <a_flayer> lol, easily reached 40 km by flying straight up on just the panthers

L128[17:46:26] <raptop> SSTOs can be easy to fly if you just skip on the whole jet engine thing

L129[17:50:05] <a_flayer> nah, i needed this one to be a plane

L140[18:49:21] <a_flayer> nice, 90 days of snacks left after arrival at duna, that's a good margin

L142[19:05:20] <a_flayer> aha, successful landing!

L143[19:05:36] <a_flayer> 250m from the base

L144[19:05:42] <Althego> quite close

L145[19:05:43] <Althego> nice

L146[19:07:32] <a_flayer> yeah, i used 300 dv to do it

L147[19:07:46] <a_flayer> or maybe 250

L148[19:11:40] <a_flayer> but i think i need a bigger fuel transport

L153[19:52:55] <Althego> stream for the launch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgtDRR2F2wA

L154[19:53:04] <Althego> also scott https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOKm-qKACv8