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L86[07:06:26] <Guest49496> Hello everyone, I have a problem that I do not know how to place the z 400 battery on a satellite in orbit, I got to the satellite well with the engineer and I took the battery in the ship but I don't know how to place this piece on the satellite
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L90[07:17:20] <Guest49496> Hello everyone, I have a problem that I do not know how to place the z 400 battery on a satellite in orbit, I got to the satellite well with the engineer and I took the battery in the ship but I don't know how to place this piece on the satellite
L91[07:19:35] <Althego> i think you have to switch to eva construction mode
L92[07:19:47] <Althego> probably icon in the top right corner
L93[07:20:38] <Althego> https://youtu.be/osKBLOHvvBQ?t=22
L94[07:23:04] <Guest49496> I think this video works for me thanks
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L109[10:05:18] <Mat2ch> Uh, we are still helpful here. Nice
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L123[11:06:50] <Mat2ch> https://www.flyingwatertowers.com/ lol :D
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L125[12:06:35] <Althego> why would anybody do this? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E26LUKUVEAQDRX_?format=jpg&name=large
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L133[13:01:29] <Mat2ch> Althego: the font or killing docker instances?
L134[13:01:37] <Althego> the font
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L136[13:02:34] <Mat2ch> Some people with dyslexia have an easier time reading this...
L137[13:02:47] <Mat2ch> that's why Comic Sans is actually useful for something
L138[13:03:28] <Althego> i always like comic sans. fight me
L139[13:03:31] <Althego> liked
L140[13:05:26] <sandbox> imagine fighting over typefaces
L141[13:06:36] <Mat2ch> Has been done!
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L144[13:43:11] <sandbox> I want to make a squids in space joke but I can't think of anything
L145[13:47:16] <Judge_Dedd> I do love kraken jokes.
L146[13:50:06] <Althego> the iss thing?
L147[13:51:08] <Althego> see the book children of ruin
L148[13:57:03] <FLHerne> Oh, those are great books
L149[13:57:13] <FLHerne> (it's a sequel to Children of Time)
L150[13:58:23] <Althego> is there a 3rd yet?
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L152[14:05:05] <Althego> reaper with scythe action
L153[14:06:22] <Mat2ch> sandbox: No squid jokes? That's all-arm-ing... get it, get it?
L154[14:07:10] <Althego> guh
L155[14:13:10] <Althego> after ame and ina now calli has superchat visualization in the form of falling things
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L157[14:16:08] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ5mE-fPTZ8
L158[14:16:11] <Althego> somewhat old
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L171[15:30:26] <Webchat644> what is a good way of logging flight data
L172[15:30:46] <Althego> a flight data recorder? :)
L173[15:31:35] <Webchat644> yeah, is there such a thing/mod you can recommend
L174[15:32:45] <Althego> supposedly mechjeb has something
L175[15:33:00] <raptop> Not sure if MJ outputs files, but there's some logging.
L176[15:33:14] <raptop> I suppose the silly approach would be using kRPC so you can get CSVs
L177[15:33:31] <raptop> (annoyingly, kRPC and python interact somewhat weirdly and you can't use numpy)
L178[15:34:00] <Webchat644> too much work
L179[15:35:26] <Althego> net says mechjeb saves to csv
L180[15:35:31] <raptop> nice
L181[15:35:48] <Webchat644> even without having the mechjeb tech unlocked?
L182[15:39:10] <Althego> i guess you have to find that out by trying
L183[15:40:38] <Mat2ch> Althego: Danny will try to land in the new dish and destroy Kerbin.
L184[15:40:51] <Althego> obviously
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L186[15:41:07] <Althego> that is the natural state of things
L187[15:42:29] <raptop> . o O (Playing KSP with realism and scripting mods, and mostly looking at your craft's performance in terms of log files and graphs you made in matplotlib)
L188[15:44:14] <Mat2ch> The new KSC still looks so extremly sterile. I don't like it
L189[15:45:20] <Althego> i think it is work in progress
L190[15:45:28] <Althego> but iu had that feeling too
L191[15:45:48] <Althego> calli is louder than monitor steve. cant have two videos in parallel now
L192[15:47:35] <Althego> oh wait, was there launch?M
L193[15:47:48] <Althego> https://youtu.be/QXf9mRWbXDM
L194[15:48:13] <raptop> huh, that ame stream went long
L195[15:48:39] <Althego> obra dinn
L196[15:48:47] <Althego> uncharacteristically long for her
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L199[15:55:30] <Webchat644> whats the x axis on mechjeb?
L200[15:56:08] <Mat2ch> shouldn't it be time?
L201[15:56:16] <Webchat644> doesnt seem like it
L202[15:58:21] <Mat2ch> can you maybe post a bit more information? Where you see the axis and what it shows?
L203[15:58:25] <Mat2ch> Maybe a screenshot?
L204[15:58:32] <Webchat644> will do
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L206[16:03:04] <Webchat644> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/531944364554059778/850041516479086622/unknown.png
L207[16:03:04] <Webchat644> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/531944364554059778/850041629976428554/unknown.png
L208[16:03:23] <Althego> lol what is t his
L209[16:03:28] <Althego> these are not functions
L210[16:04:04] <Webchat644> they are functions but what value in fnc of what other val
L211[16:04:19] <raptop> o_O
L212[16:04:40] <flayer> i'm barely functional
L213[16:04:48] <Althego> ah yes, the classical issue, no axis labels, no units
L214[16:04:53] <Althego> who knows what these are
L215[16:05:02] <Althego> maybe a csv export helps?
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L217[16:05:23] <Mat2ch> byeeeeee
L218[16:05:37] <Mat2ch> but those graphs are really... weird.
L219[16:05:45] <Mat2ch> 80000. Ok, what?
L220[16:05:46] <Althego> but very nice smooth curves
L221[16:06:46] <raptop> spline abuse?
L222[16:08:18] <Mat2ch> I tend to abuse my spine all the time.
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L224[16:08:40] <raptop> have you tried reticulating it?
L225[16:09:08] <Webchat226> hold on
L226[16:09:12] <Webchat226> i lost my chat log
L227[16:09:19] <Webchat226> ill connect with my irc client
L228[16:10:29] <Althego> only after disentangling space tape?
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L230[16:11:57] <Althego> if the new firefox has enough space in the tabs to have a second line, it should continue the title instead of useless things
L231[16:12:14] <Althego> a single icon would be enough for playing status
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L233[16:13:39] <betelgeuse> alright i managed to make my client work
L234[16:13:40] <Althego> we didnt even say the name 3 times
L235[16:13:47] <betelgeuse> im the guy who posted the weird plots
L236[16:13:58] <Althego> thought so
L237[16:14:05] <Althego> same ip
L238[16:14:08] <betelgeuse> i lost my chat log, please do resend the questions
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L240[16:15:33] <raptop> It's mostly that we're confused about the plots, and the unlabled x-axis
L241[16:15:40] <betelgeuse> yeah me too
L242[16:17:32] <betelgeuse> here's the csv if anybody wants to play with it and find out what the x axis is
L243[16:17:32] <betelgeuse> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/531944364554059778/850045443915776060/Untitled_Space_Craft_20210603180508.csv
L244[16:17:40] <Mat2ch> the only question was if the csv data is simmilarly weird
L245[16:19:03] <Althego> you can plug it into a spreadsheet and do a diagram
L246[16:19:05] <Althego> few clicks
L247[16:21:58] <betelgeuse> this is what libreoffice could do me
L248[16:21:58] <betelgeuse> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/531944364554059778/850046546274680902/unknown.png
L249[16:22:27] <betelgeuse> makes perfect sense imo
L250[16:22:33] <Althego> yes looks fine
L251[16:22:39] <raptop> the x-axis might be downrange distance?
L252[16:22:46] <Althego> hehe i realized i havent used any spreadsheet program for years
L253[16:22:48] <Althego> i cant make a diagram
L254[16:22:56] * raptop has been using TOPCAT
L255[16:24:52] <raptop> Though the y-axis is, uh, using different scaling for each
L256[16:25:15] <raptop> yeah, it's downrange distance
L257[16:25:25] <betelgeuse> what does that mean
L258[16:26:49] <Althego> hehe maybe it chose a wrong dataset for the x axis, and plots it against one of the data not time (which is also an impliocit data)
L259[16:27:10] <raptop> https://photos.app.goo.gl/jJEw925qRofLEoXM7
L260[16:27:16] <Althego> maybe it is selectable with something on the ionterface and just the default is wrong
L261[16:27:31] <Althego> hehe you managed to get it back
L262[16:27:59] <raptop> huh, I messed up the labels somewhat
L263[16:28:02] <raptop> Meh, you can see the shapes
L264[16:28:23] <betelgeuse> yeah its downrange
L265[16:28:31] <betelgeuse> bit weird choice as an x-axis
L266[16:28:33] <Althego> in the screenshot
L267[16:28:38] <Althego> downrange is displaeyd on a button
L268[16:28:45] <Althego> maybe it is changable thre to time
L269[16:28:57] <Althego> in the top left
L270[16:29:53] <Althego> but this is actually useful
L271[16:30:10] <Althego> if you can select both axes
L272[16:30:30] <Althego> maybe i could find the optimal altitude for an airplane for this
L273[16:30:50] <Althego> if it goes higher it consumes less fuel, but also slows down, so there is a balance
L274[16:33:37] <betelgeuse> ah i see the button now
L275[16:33:38] <betelgeuse> thanks
L276[16:33:49] <raptop> yay
L277[16:35:16] * flayer slaps raptop
L278[16:35:33] <raptop> ow?
L279[16:41:15] <Althego> what's up, slappers?
L280[16:41:52] <Althego> i dont even play a bass
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L282[17:00:26] <Althego> stream on
L283[17:00:36] <Althego> it was o before, but there was no music
L284[17:01:50] <Althego> lol out of sync audio
L285[17:25:20] <Althego> t-4 min
L286[17:28:21] <Althego> t-1 min
L287[17:29:26] <Althego> liftoff
L288[17:33:20] <Althego> the booster camera image is different
L289[17:33:36] <Althego> there is some kind of cover visible that wasnt there before
L290[17:34:21] <Althego> or is it a different, wider angle camera?
L291[17:37:25] <Althego> not exactly center, but there was video all the way down
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L293[17:41:35] <Althego> those solar panels are quite big
L294[17:41:53] <Althego> but this curled up transport is really clever
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L296[17:50:21] <Mat2ch> And they missed the opportunity to make a joke about them when talking about Dragons solar panels.
L297[17:52:26] <Althego> what joke
L298[18:01:39] <Mat2ch> Althego: that they have bigger solar panels on board this time. They just can't get rolled out :D
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L303[19:41:57] <betelgeuse> mechjeb csv data export is amazing
L304[19:41:57] <betelgeuse> i made a 3d graph with plotly (you will have to download and open with browser) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/531944364554059778/850096670674780250/ksp.html
L305[19:43:04] <Althego> wow
L306[19:43:21] <raptop> fancy
L307[19:47:32] <betelgeuse> heres the whopping 7 lines of gnu r code if you wanna make your own https://paste.gnome.org/p0xxiwgf7
L308[19:48:15] <raptop> Somehow I should have known that R would be like that
L309[19:49:44] <betelgeuse> this is quite a disservice to what it can do
L310[19:49:45] <betelgeuse> but i like the simplicity, same with python
L311[19:50:40] <betelgeuse> also i think plotly has a python package that also does this
L312[19:51:02] <betelgeuse> i guess i only used r because its ide is nice
L313[19:52:10] <raptop> Not saying "like that" as a complaint, but the whole libraries make the plot only 7 lines
L314[19:53:47] <Althego> what is this... samsung virtual assistant. oh no rle 34
L315[19:55:44] <raptop> o_O
L316[19:58:15] <deadmind> betelgeuse, neato!
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L325[21:38:46] <Mat2ch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIzORn8g4X0
L326[21:38:52] <Mat2ch> you all know what is going to happen. :D
L327[21:40:22] <Mat2ch> " Or you could just cover your spacecraft in them and have them set off fireworks during liftoff like a normal person "
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