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L36[04:23:32] <Althego> hah, zombie is
reading isekai manga
L37[04:23:42] <Althego> i read this
L38[04:38:20] <XXCoder> which one?
L40[04:39:44] <XXCoder> Buy The Saint's
Magic Power is Omnipotent interesting
L42[04:42:16] <XXCoder> its cultivation
type, except its a very funny take
L43[04:43:22] <XXCoder> an engineer student
acciently gets invited into cultivation chat group. he stays in
because he thinks its real funny chunnuis roleplaying and
stuff
L44[04:43:35] <XXCoder> turns out people on
it is real
L45[04:43:45] <XXCoder> ill post no more
spoiler
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L47[05:19:51] <raptop> engineers in magical
settings tend to cause a lot of exciting results
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L49[05:38:38] <Althego> i love it when
science overpowers magic. like in gate jsdf something and release
that witch
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L51[05:43:19] *
raptop wonders if it would make sense to read more K J
Parker
L52[05:43:44] <raptop> Devices and Desires
seemed very into siege engines
L53[05:54:38] <XXCoder> Althego: or how
magic makes science knowledge utterly riciously OP
L54[05:54:50] <XXCoder> like schooled in
magic
L55[05:54:52] <XXCoder> book series
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L61[07:25:40] <Neal> I can't believe I'm
actually running out of albator
L62[07:27:29] <Neal> yep burned off all the
ablator on my 1.25m shield
L63[07:29:47] <Althego> lol
L64[07:29:51] <Althego> what did you do for
that
L65[07:30:02] <Althego> not even a return
from jool can do that
L66[07:30:07] <XXCoder> shortcut of going
stright down ;)
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L71[09:10:15] <Mat2ch> .oO( thanks to
XXCoder I just thought I'm in the freecad channel here and was
confused for a short time... :D )
L72[09:10:29] <XXCoder> lol
L73[09:14:58] <flayer> i've been confused
for a very long time
L74[09:18:02] <Mat2ch> about what?
L75[09:18:14] <flayer> everything
L76[09:18:25] <Althego> has your cat been
confused recently?
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L80[11:37:54] <darsie> 1337
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L83[12:13:41] <Althego> kikkerikii
L84[12:13:43] <Althego> glory to
takamori
L86[12:14:21] <darsie> What did takamori
do?
L87[12:15:55] <Althego> exists
L88[12:18:36] <Althego> (name of the
popular ship, where ship is in its slang meaning)
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L95[14:27:47] <Mat2ch> Looks like they are
about to lift the first integration tower part!
L96[14:28:18] <Althego> frankencrane
L97[14:28:22] <Mat2ch> lol
L98[14:28:33] <Althego> that si the
name
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L100[14:29:04] <Mat2ch> I know
L101[14:29:07] <Mat2ch> silly people
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L103[14:40:48] <Mat2ch> the peeps from
NasaSpaceFlight have set up a live stream just for the
stacking...
L104[14:40:50] <Mat2ch> :D
L105[14:41:33] <Althego> hehe
L106[14:44:17] <Althego> part of
history
L107[14:45:00] <umaxtu> gotta rake in that
superchat money
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L110[15:16:44] <Mat2ch> funny, they have
problems unbolting the segment from the transporter. :D
L111[15:18:32] *
flayer tickles Mat2ch
L112[15:19:39] <Mat2ch> No!
L113[15:19:52] <Mat2ch> No
tickeling!
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L115[15:57:33] <Mat2ch> aaaaaand
liftoff!
L116[16:00:37] <Mat2ch> well, short lift
off. Now cutting through a bolt...
L117[16:03:06] <umaxtu> should've used
NASA's frangible nuts
L118[16:03:51] <Mat2ch> oh no
L119[16:03:58] <Mat2ch> SN 15 might go
back to the build site :(
L120[16:06:21] <umaxtu> not surprised,
they probably don't want to slow down construction by evacuating
the site
L121[16:06:46] <Mat2ch> but what about SN
16 then?
L122[16:08:20] *
umaxtu shrugs
L123[17:00:33] <darsie> How much payload
will the orbital SS test have?
L124[17:02:27] <darsie> wrong chan
...
L125[17:02:53] <Althego> hehe wrong-chan,
what a character
L126[17:03:08] <darsie> Frankenstein was
the mad scientist. His creation was the "monster".
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L130[17:35:52] <Mat2ch> darsie: nobody
knows what they will use as payload or if any.
L131[17:35:57] <Mat2ch> It's SpaceX
afterall.
L132[17:36:32] <Althego> doge statue
L133[17:38:42] <Mat2ch> made out of
concrete. Possible
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L139[18:58:17] <Althego> scott
L140[19:00:04] <raptop> ttocs
L141[19:01:08] <Althego> ʇooɔs
L142[19:01:16] <Althego> hehe cant
write
L143[19:01:27] <Althego> should have been
this
L144[19:01:28] <Althego> ʇʇoɔs
L145[19:01:46] <sandbox> scoot
L146[19:20:27] <Althego> hmm, ingenuity
6th flight this week
L147[19:26:36] <Althego> hehe, james webb
might be delayed because of the ariane 5 fairing, it helds in too
much pressure and vibration is too big when separating
L148[19:28:09] <raptop> aaaaaaaa
L149[19:28:36] <Althego> with this speed
starship might be ready in time :)
L150[19:28:42] *
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something after all these decades
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L169[20:44:30] <Doctor_Kerbal>
Hello.
L170[20:44:30] <Mod9000> Hello,
Doctor_Kerbal
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L172[20:46:42] <raptop> PhD? MD?
L173[20:47:47] <darsie> Wernher?
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L176[21:21:31] <Neal>
"enableGroundStations = False" toggles the extra ground
relay stations, correct?
L177[21:21:42] <Neal> I want to make it
harder by disabling those
L178[21:26:17] <raptop> It might, though
that's also a difficulty setting when starting a new game
L180[21:31:38] <raptop> Hm, main-belt
asteroid, so as far as Earth is concerned, it flies safe
L181[21:32:23] <Neal> raptop, I was going
through the advanced difficulty settings when I made this save and
I didn't see it
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L186[21:53:26] <raptop> weird
L187[21:53:45] <raptop> I know I've seen
extra comm-net stations mentioned somewhere in there
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L190[22:06:13] <Solar_Oracle> Wait, you
have a mod beeper now?
L191[22:06:44] <raptop> the modcall thing?
Yeah, though I know that the bots have had issues in the past
L192[22:06:56] <Solar_Oracle> When do bots
not have issues?
L193[22:07:17] <raptop> I guess you could
go to their github pages and mark all the issues as resolved
>_>
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L196[22:08:25] <Solar_Oracle> SN15's
Raptors seem to need replaced.
L197[22:10:10] <raptop> hrm
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L200[22:10:25] <Solar_Oracle> The
shielding scheme still seems optimistic.
L201[22:11:27] <Solar_Oracle> And I wish
more people would understand that there's a lot more to getting to
Mars than just getting into orbit. You know, like completing a life
support system that will last at least a thousand days.
L202[22:12:51] *
raptop assumes that Solar_Oracle encountered someone taking an
overly reductive approach to that Heinlein quote
L203[22:13:26] <Solar_Oracle> Yeah, you're
halfway to anywhere. Assuming, that is, that the delta-v to get to
wherever you're going and brake is equal to Earth escape
velocity.
L204[22:14:26] <Solar_Oracle> I think
people tend to assume that, once you have the launch vehicle,
that's it.
L205[22:14:46] <Solar_Oracle> Ignoring
that the Saturn V was, what, about just 10% of the total Apollo
program cost?
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L207[22:15:39] <Solar_Oracle> Closer to
15% upon review, but still.
L208[22:15:51] <raptop> I can't say that I
know the cost breakdown, but either way
L209[22:16:31] <Solar_Oracle> And sure,
Starship's shielding is resistant to impacts, but that's not really
much of a concern in its configuration as it was for the Shuttles
and it introduces a new catastrophic failure mode.
L210[22:18:12] <Solar_Oracle> Unless they
changed it. Again.
L212[22:27:14] <raptop> I have, uh,
extreme doubts
L213[22:27:19] *
raptop presses X repeatedly
L214[22:29:35] <Solar_Oracle> Honestly,
adding ten years to anything involving spaceflight R&D seems to
be right.
L215[22:31:19] <raptop> Yeah. Though also,
companies can just die. (eg: Bigelow)
L216[22:32:01] <FLHerne> Solar_Oracle: To
be fair, that Δv approximation is about right for most interesting
places in the solar system, if you're not in too much of a hurry
:p
L217[22:32:14] <FLHerne> aerobraking at
the other end can help
L218[22:32:48] <Solar_Oracle> Jupiter is
the most interesting place in the Solar System.
L219[22:33:12] <FLHerne> Well, you don't
want to visit Jupiter proper
L220[22:33:43] <Solar_Oracle> Where else
am I supposed to install an evil lair in an active volcano?
L221[22:33:56] <Solar_Oracle> If it's good
enough for Jules Pierre Mao, it's good enough for us all.
L222[22:34:14] <raptop> ...I guess Io is a
very thematically appropriate location
L223[22:34:38] <Solar_Oracle> And, to be
frank, the delta-v trick only seems to work for Venus, Mars and
maybe the Belt. The former is not worth visiting unless you can
tolerate melting to death.
L224[22:35:06] <Solar_Oracle> And since
they're closer, transfer windows are more infrequent.
L225[22:38:08] <Solar_Oracle> The second
most interesting place is also Saturn.
L226[22:38:32] <Solar_Oracle> Followed by
Disney World in third.
L227[22:39:24] <raptop> Giving the mouse
ideas?
L228[22:40:27] <FLHerne> raptop: Axiom are
building hardware for their cupola thing
L229[22:41:13] <FLHerne> Solar_Oracle: You
can do the atmospheric balloon thing
L230[22:41:35] <FLHerne> I'm not entirely
sure what the point is, but it's a thing you can do
L231[22:42:27] <raptop> FLHerne: huh, I
was expecting them to be a scam
L232[22:43:56] <Solar_Oracle> The balloon
thing's always been kind of silly. At least a Mars could be built
from local materials, and you cant do stuff on Mars.
L233[22:44:00] <Solar_Oracle> Uh, can do
stuff.
L234[22:44:25] <Solar_Oracle> What can you
do on Venus? Unless you put up a Tibanna gas refinery and casino,
absolutely nothing.
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Solar_Oracle> What can you do on Venus? Unless you put up a
Tibanna gas refinery and casino, absolutely nothing.'
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L237[22:47:23] <Solar_Oracle> This is why
I never got fired as a travel agent for Venus Airlines.
L238[22:47:34] <Solar_Oracle> No one
bothered showing up anyway.
L239[22:49:14] <raptop> Now I'm imaginging
a future scandal about aerial casinos and if tethered dirigibles
count
L240[22:49:24] <raptop> (compare with
riverboat vs puddlebot casinos)
L242[22:50:57] <raptop> The whole floating
cities thing really feels like it handwaves ΔV among other things
in a way that habitats on the Moon/Mars do not
L243[22:51:18] <Solar_Oracle> Landing and
takeoff would also be kind of a pain, since you can't exactly make
decent fuel out of carbon-dioxide alone.
L244[22:51:35] <Solar_Oracle> And you'd
also need a stable platform to land on. Unless you
lithobrake.
L245[22:52:17] <Solar_Oracle> So you'd
essentially be shipping in enough propellant for every launch, and
it'd be nearly as much propellant per launch as it is for Earth
right now.
L246[22:53:45] <Solar_Oracle> If you want
a real space casino, just way for travel to Saturn to happen and
put a giant resort hotel in a close, highly inclined orbit.
L247[22:54:25] <Solar_Oracle> At least
people will have something to look at as they ponder how little
money they have left for the penny slots after having spent a
billion dollars getting there.
L249[22:58:49] <Solar_Oracle> Yeah, but
it's far away. That's for the entry-level guests who couldn't
afford the scrip needed to get the closer views.
L250[22:59:27] <raptop> hm
L251[23:00:09] <Solar_Oracle> I'd say a
close orbit to Jupiter would be better, but we're not to the point
where vict- I mean patrons won't die from turbo radiation
yet.
L252[23:00:39] <Solar_Oracle> Or that
could be part of the appeal. "Jovian Resort. You'll die to go
there!"
L253[23:04:36] <raptop> hah
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