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L19[02:22:34] <Althego> finally they did
it. they just had to do it on a day when i was unwell so i couldnt
watch it
L20[02:25:48] <Althego> but there is no
visuals of the actual flip
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L25[02:46:39] <Solar_Oracle> I have a
question: How can the net amount of entropy of the universe be
massively decreased?
L26[02:47:23] <Althego> i think you need an
evil annoying white thingie and magical girls
L27[02:50:03] <Solar_Oracle> Evil white
thingies? You mean like vanilla ice cream?
L28[02:50:46] <Althego> no, kyubey
L29[02:54:11] <raptop> Outside of weirdness
like poincaré recursion times, you're not getting global entropy
down
L30[02:54:39] <Solar_Oracle> You know what?
I should really be asking a sufficiently advanced computer this
question.
L31[02:54:53] <Solar_Oracle> Alexa: Reverse
global entropy.
L32[03:00:27] <Solar_Oracle> I got nothing.
I guess I really can't reverse entropy. Well, at least I'll rest
assured that photon decay isn't real and that means we'll have all
that much more time to contemplate the heat death.
L33[03:02:06] <raptop> s/photon/proton/
?
L34[03:02:40] <Solar_Oracle> Por que los
nos dos?
L35[03:04:06] <Solar_Oracle> Which begs the
question: If proton decay is real, is it possible in which there
are contexts in which they can't decay? I mean, unbound neutrons
are unstable but those part of atomic nuclei and neutron stars are
pretty stable. Though aren't neutron stars just giant atomic
nuclei?
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L39[03:08:27] <raptop> neutron stars are
weird
L40[03:08:56] <raptop> Like, there's some
state changes that mean that they at least partially cool by
emitting neutrinos o_O
L41[03:09:13] <Althego> is there strange
matter?
L42[03:09:25] <raptop> Uh, for proton decay
purposes, my understanding is that the mechanisms still affect ones
in nuclei
L43[03:09:45] <raptop> Althego: maybe, but
I get the impression that it's less likely than once thought
L44[03:10:02] <raptop> Unfortunately not my
field, not up on what's been found in terms of equations of state,
etc
L45[03:12:32] <Solar_Oracle> To make
matters worse, free neutrons emit a proton as a decay
product.
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L47[03:12:42] <Solar_Oracle> Stupid protons
think they're so good by probably not decaying!
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L51[03:17:08] <Althego> i dont even knoe
what is below cat5
L52[03:17:36] <raptop> cat3 is basically
phone cable
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L54[03:17:48] <raptop> Mind you, it's
possible to get way faster than dialup, but it's no cat5
L55[03:18:34] <Solar_Oracle> Can you not
simply process your files through an astropath?
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L57[03:19:21] <Solar_Oracle> I mean, sure,
they'll occasionally start clawing their eyes out after a bad dream
and seldom communicate in anything other than riddles, but it sure
beats trying Comcast.
L58[03:19:46] <raptop> I believe the last
time I did that, I got complaints about it being
"heretical", "being of clearly xeno origin",
and sometimes "inducing impure thoughts"
L59[03:19:47] <Althego> lol
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L61[03:22:39] <raptop> uh, "it"
being the data
L62[03:22:42] <Solar_Oracle> Yes,
Inquisitor? This person, right here.
L63[03:23:38] <Solar_Oracle> On a related
note, they really weren't kidding about Warhammer 3 literally
letting you invade the Chaos Wastes.
L64[03:24:03] <Solar_Oracle> I think this
means you can end the End Times by walking up to the Chaos Gods and
sucker punching them
L65[03:27:08] <raptop> It'll be amusing if
you can (accidentally?) kill them
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L67[03:28:00] <Solar_Oracle> I think the
implications of this are clear: Settra will finally be able to
exact revenge on the gods for canceling his miniatures line.
L68[03:29:23] <Solar_Oracle> Here's hoping
for a halfling DLC
L69[03:30:31] <Solar_Oracle> I wanna see
cookpot wielding chefs riding giant chickens fighting the daemons
of Chaos.
L70[03:30:47] <raptop> hah
L72[03:34:30] <raptop> Murder
roosters
L73[03:35:17] <Solar_Oracle> I like to
think they're as vicious as Cold Ones. But, you know, one tenth
their size.
L74[03:36:20] <Solar_Oracle> I think the
Ogres are probably one of the other factions of the five planned
for release, as they're the biggest army that hasn't been in the
past two games.
L75[03:37:01] <Solar_Oracle> They're just
like halflings in that they like to eat. A lot.
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L77[03:44:35] <Solar_Oracle> Oh yeah. A
rocket did not explode today.
L78[03:44:59] <Althego> but they cheated.
nobody has a video of thetransition
L79[03:46:26] <Solar_Oracle> Maybe the
landing video was a take off video played in reverse?
L80[03:47:02] <Althego> no, the flames are
moving differently because of the sorrounding airstream
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L83[03:48:51] <Solar_Oracle> As if! You
know easy it is to add flame animations in with post production?
Source: Angelfire and Geocities flame gifs.
L84[03:49:19] <RoboFreak> except it was
live
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L86[03:50:24] <Solar_Oracle> Wake up
sheeple!
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L93[03:55:52] <Althego> usually this
disconnect was around 3 or 4 but lately it always interferes me
because i always see it
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L97[04:00:57] <Althego> no problem as long
as i can get a crazy ctarl-ctarl female on the ship
L98[04:07:35] <Solar_Oracle> I see you're
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L99[04:13:00] <Solar_Oracle> Alright, let's
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L123[09:40:37] <Mat2ch> performance tuning
in KSP. :D
L124[09:41:13] <Mat2ch> cross-feed is the
enemy.
L125[09:43:55] <Mat2ch> oh, wow, that
poster of SN15 looks like something made in the 80s
L126[09:44:23] <FLHerne> Poster?
L128[09:44:30] <flayer> link it bro
L129[09:44:32] <FLHerne> Oh, that
L130[09:44:42] <FLHerne> and yes
L131[09:45:06] <Althego> more like
50s
L132[09:45:11] <flayer> honestly
L133[09:45:19] <flayer> it is so
incredibly impressive that they're actually doing this
L134[09:45:23] <flayer> i never thought
i'd see anything like this
L135[09:45:31] <flayer> actually being
developed
L136[09:48:49] <Mat2ch> Starship landing?
Yeah, takes some bold people to try this
L137[09:49:04] <Mat2ch> I wonder what ESA
and ArianeSpace is doing today
L138[09:49:09] <Mat2ch> probably business
as usual
L139[09:49:41] <Althego> no, it takes
really bold people to sit in it
L140[09:50:15] <Althego> you dont need to
be bold to watch it ctrash and explode
L141[09:50:49] <Althego> the issue is,
they have to be able to do this perfectly thousand times
L142[09:51:39] <Deddly> How many times did
they test the original Moon lander before it was crewed?
L143[09:51:49] <Althego> hehe none
L144[09:52:02] <Althego> but spacex wants
to use this as a commercial vehicle on earth
L145[09:52:10] <Althego> and that is a
different matter
L146[09:52:58] <Deddly> Sure. Commercial
use is a whole other ball game
L147[09:53:04] <Althego> if you decide to
go to the moon or an other planet, at this point you know you are
among the first people ever go there, and one of selected few, who
are all aware of the risks
L148[09:53:16] <Deddly> I mean,
technically, even NASA missions are commercial, but you know what I
mean :)
L149[09:55:44] <Mat2ch> Althego: try to
sell ESA the Starship concept. It will take a bold person at ESA to
even let you on the property and in a conference room...
L150[09:55:56] <Althego> hehehe
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L152[09:58:54] <Deddly> I imagine they'll
get a lot of orbital missions, then a lot of suborbital cargo
contracts, and only then will they allow humans on it
L153[09:59:05] <Althego> at this point
nasa is somewhat behind the times in rockets and spaceships, but
esa is so far behind that they are still developing ariane 6, a
non-reusable vehicle
L154[09:59:19] <Althego> although sls is
an idea from the 90s
L155[10:00:25] <Deddly> Gotta be difficult
to develop long-term plans when each successive government keeps
changing your priorities for you.
L156[10:00:33] <Althego> that too
L157[10:01:26] <Deddly> Imagine if NASA
tried developing something like Starship.
L158[10:01:51] <Mat2ch> after the third
failed test flight the project would be stopped.
L159[10:02:04] <Althego> but the
methodology is different
L160[10:02:05] <Deddly> If they even got
that far
L161[10:02:11] <Althego> it could be
cancelled before the test flight too
L162[10:02:22] <Althego> like venture
star
L163[10:02:42] <Althego> that ksp test is
interesting
L164[10:02:54] <Althego> crossfeed makes
it exponentially slow
L165[10:03:01] <Althego> but without that
it is just linea
L166[10:03:02] <Althego> r
L167[10:03:43] <Deddly> They'd have to
extensively test each and every component, and before the first
test flight even gets close, the next government would go
"Yeah no. We're not going to do that. We're going to
<project where all work on Starship is meaningless> instead.
This is why commercial systems are the only reasonable way
forward
L168[10:03:52] <Mat2ch> the real question
is: Why does it make it slow? What are they doing there in the
code?!
L169[10:04:44] <Mat2ch> Deddly: or why
those plans should be made in a way that they can't be cancled that
easily. Like: You have to show that this works and we can't cancel
you.
L170[10:05:13] <Mat2ch> "You get 10
prototype launches and if one succedes we have to go
further"
L171[10:05:54] <Deddly> Mat2ch, when
SpaceX first announced Starship, most people thought that it was
just scifi. No way would they be able to convince a government to
fund it
L172[10:06:56] <Deddly> By the way, how
reliable does propulsive landing need to be to be comparable with
parachute landing?
L173[10:06:57] *
darsie read the poster.
L174[10:14:13] <Mat2ch> Deddly: parachutes
can fail, too...
L175[10:14:25] <Deddly> That's what I was
thinking, Mat2ch
L176[10:17:10] <Mat2ch> how safe are
airplanes?
L177[10:17:57] <darsie> They can land
without engines or parachutes.
L178[10:17:58] <Deddly> Mat2ch, planes are
incredibly safe. I'm wondering how safe Starship needs to be to be
ready for crewed missions
L179[10:18:31] <Deddly> Comparing it with
aeroplanes won't look good for a very long time.
L180[10:18:48] <darsie> Does SS saftey
matter if ppl are willing to take the risk?
L182[10:19:28] <darsie> Like if 1 in 5
flights kill all crew?
L183[10:19:37] <Deddly> darsie, it matters
for legal reasons, I would imagine
L184[10:19:41] <darsie> Would FAA or so
outlaw it?
L185[10:19:53] <Mat2ch> well, it matters,
because with 1/5 chance to nobody will want to ride that
thing.
L186[10:20:03] <darsie> I doubt
that.
L187[10:20:12] <Deddly> FAA would surely
forbid that
L188[10:20:16] <darsie> k
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L190[10:23:45] <Deddly> Disclaimer: I'm
not an expert in aviation safety.
L191[10:24:30] *
Mat2ch neither
L192[10:24:53] <Deddly> If they allowed
that flat-earther guy to fire himself up into the sky on a homemade
steam rocket, maybe they make exceptions in certain
circumstances
L193[10:25:04] <Mat2ch> But if they build
the seating compartment sturdy enough you could survive a hard
landing
L194[10:25:24] <Deddly> Mat2ch, hard
landing at 300 kmh?
L195[10:25:43] <Mat2ch> I'm talking about
a one engine at 50 % landing
L196[10:25:53] <Mat2ch> it slows down, but
will use the tanks as crush core.
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L198[10:27:50] <darsie> Did Mad Mike (?)
get permission?
L199[10:30:15] <Althego> first of all that
guy was not a flat earther, he just did that for publicity
L200[10:30:27] <Althego> second his rocket
didnt go too high
L201[10:31:11] <Althego> but before his
death, or his flat earth antics, in surviving mars there was a
little event where a flat marser launched in a rocket and
died
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L208[12:07:09] <Deddly> Mike claimed to be
a flat earther to get funding from them. But since he claimed to be
one, I call him that
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L212[12:59:15] <Mat2ch> Althego: have you
seen the Wintergatan video from yesterday?
L213[12:59:21] <Althego> no
L214[12:59:36] <Althego> i was under the
weather
L215[13:00:07] <Althego> takamori
time
L216[13:03:15] <Althego> it seems the mmx
is coming together finally
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L218[13:04:06] <JVFoxy> ... coffee time
for me..
L219[13:06:14] <Althego> glory to
takamori
L220[13:06:30] <Althego> cat bird and
rapper reaper walks into a game
L221[13:47:35] <JVFoxy> blep?
L222[13:47:51] <JVFoxy> darsie.. you in
need of some time?
L223[13:48:25] <darsie> Yeah, I need more
time.
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L225[13:48:39] <darsie> Can I get like
100-500 more years?
L226[13:50:23] <JVFoxy> think you can
handle all those memories?
L227[13:53:06] <darsie> idk. Maybe some of
them.
L228[13:54:37] <JVFoxy> I remember Adam
Savage did some episode for discovery, talk'n about what it would
take to live longer than normal. Part of it was brain memory
augmentations.
L229[13:57:24] <Althego> you would forget
most of it
L230[13:57:33] <Althego> but it is still
extra time
L231[13:57:53] <Althego> even in your
normal length time you forget a lot of things
L232[13:58:03] <Althego> the peak points
remain
L233[13:58:41] <JVFoxy> could make time
slower...
L234[13:58:59] <Althego> but then
everybody would be faster
L235[13:59:02] <Althego> that is
pointless
L236[13:59:06] <JVFoxy> what did Data say?
Even a few seconds seems like eternity for an android.
L237[13:59:52] <Althego> that was some
milliseconds
L238[14:01:29] <JVFoxy> ya I knew it was
somewhere along those lines. It been a while
L240[14:01:41] <Althego> 0.68
seconds
L241[14:01:45] <JVFoxy> lol.. its ok. I
get the point
L242[14:01:49] <Althego> 680 milliseconds
is a lot
L243[14:02:16] <JVFoxy> not quite 3/4 of a
second
L244[14:02:34] <JVFoxy> time is one of
those... interesting quirks
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L249[14:54:25] <Mat2ch> Didn't we have a
bot that read the titles?
L250[14:56:44] <FLHerne> Not since kmath,
I think
L251[14:59:44] <Althego> was that the one
that died in the fire?
L252[15:00:32] <Althego> and no video of
the flip
L253[15:00:38] <Althego> nobody has
taht
L254[15:00:40] <Althego> not even
spacex
L255[15:07:20] <Mat2ch> maybe SpaceX has,
but they have to get the SD cards first and cut it.
L256[15:07:43] <Althego> only internav
viewa
L257[15:07:53] <Althego> i guess even they
cant see through the clouds
L258[15:08:08] <Althego> and they never
publish hte internal views aside from the stream
L259[15:08:16] <Althego> and it cut out
during the stream
L260[15:21:43] <Mat2ch> uhhh, the big blue
crane is coming for SN16. Run run ruuuuun!
L261[15:22:00] <Mat2ch> Eh, SN15
L262[15:22:09] <Mat2ch> not 16. That one
is still save in the high bay.
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L266[16:14:35] <Althego> what are they
doing around sn15 now? and why do they need the police for
it?
L267[16:24:10] <umaxtu> is that the fuzz
or SpaceX security
L268[16:25:22] <UmbralRaptor> SN15 knows
what it did
L269[16:48:10] <Althego> it was just a bit
noisey
L270[16:48:18] <Althego> wasnt even during
the night
L271[16:55:48] <Mat2ch> it's just the
SpaceX security
L272[16:56:06] <Mat2ch> And they really
could've switched off the lights
L273[16:57:52] <Mat2ch> the depth
perception on those cams is really hard
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L276[17:53:21] <Deddly> I wonder if we'll
see SN15 fly again.
L277[18:01:24] <Althego> maybe once
L278[18:01:40] <Althego> it could be
damaged just because of the flight
L279[18:05:38] <Althego> kikkerikii
L281[18:07:42] <Althego> maybe picard
could. there are four clusters!
L282[18:11:38] <Deddly> What is that
warpology thing?
L283[18:20:50] <Althego> that is the
domain i have. the picture is from eve online's current project
discovery. which is a minigame on real science data. in this case
you have to cluster some cells
L285[18:47:23] <Mat2ch> KSP News
L286[18:47:36] <Mat2ch> which we have to
look for ourselfs. Because irc lifes don't matter :P
L287[18:48:22] <Mat2ch> Also: Fix the fuel
lag! ;)
L288[18:54:09] <Althego> i sometimes look
on the twitter
L289[18:54:19] <Althego> but it almost
never updates with anything relevant
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L295[19:23:32] <FLHerne> Althego: No,
kmath was the OG bot that's been gone a couple of years
L296[19:23:37] <FLHerne> LunchBot is back
now
L297[19:23:37] <LunchBot> I am a bot
operated by FLHerne. Try
!{nextlunch,mission,outcome,stupid,colloid,colloid²,nextfrog,rocks,nextbankruptcy,nextpinecone,nextyear,nextfire,banlist,wenhop,help}
help.
L298[19:23:51] <FLHerne> Oh, I forgot it
did that when mentioned :p
L299[19:23:55] <Althego> i remember its
name, but cant track all bots
L300[19:24:08] <Althego> hehe
L301[19:24:37] <FLHerne> Lunchy did die in
a fire, but I put it back up now
L302[19:24:46] <FLHerne> kmath just
disappeared one day I think
L303[19:25:00] <FLHerne> (was both a user
and a bot?)
L304[19:25:29] <raptop> The user was
icefire
L305[19:25:42] <raptop> I think he got
captured by dread pirate bezos
L306[19:25:49] <Althego> lo
L307[19:25:50] <Althego> l
L308[19:37:59] <Mat2ch>
!nextbankruptcy
L309[19:37:59] <LunchBot> Mat2ch:
Astra.
L310[19:38:29] <Althego> how do you even
type colloid squared?
L311[19:39:01] <Althego> !wenhop
L312[19:39:21] <Mat2ch> no tfr yet.
:P
L313[19:39:25] <Althego> hehe
L314[19:40:45] <raptop> Althego: well, ²
is available via altGr+2 on a US-Int layout
L315[19:41:12] <raptop> I'd be worried
about the less than work-safe colloids in this channel,
though
L316[19:41:22] <Althego> a₂a²
L317[19:41:28] <Althego> i never thought
these do anything useful
L318[19:42:46] <Mat2ch> x² + y ² =
z²
L319[19:42:48] <Mat2ch> :P
L320[19:43:57] * X
has been squared and added to a square to equal a
square!
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L322[19:45:55] <raptop> at the risk of
being hyperbolic, x²/a² - y²/b² = 1
L323[19:46:56] * X
and some others are now one.
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L325[19:48:18] <FLHerne> raptop: I think
there's only one less-than-work-safe colloid
L327[19:50:01] <X> I’m sure there are
plenty of things that are colloidal and not safe for work.
L328[19:50:42] <FLHerne> In the bot to
date, I mean
L329[19:50:46] <FLHerne> !colloid
L330[19:50:46] <LunchBot> FLHerne:
Oobleck.
L331[19:51:06] <FLHerne> !colloid²
L332[19:51:06] <LunchBot> FLHerne:
Blogravyod.
L333[19:51:21] <FLHerne> hm, that's either
a bug or wild coincidence
L334[19:51:25] <FLHerne> !colloid²
L335[19:51:25] <LunchBot> FLHerne:
Cioncretnke.
L336[19:52:02] *
FLHerne files it under "wild coincidence"
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L340[20:10:02] <Althego> scott
L341[20:10:38] <Althego> lol
L342[20:11:00] <Althego> what an
intro
L343[20:11:14] <Althego> finally the
plygon thing said it had enough of me for yesterday
L344[20:11:27] <Althego> er today
L345[20:11:44] <Althego> had i not been
feeling so bad yesterday i could have gain that frigate bpc
today
L347[20:15:44] <Althego> have to watch it
tomorrow
L348[20:18:20] <dnsmcbr> FLHerne: damn,
blogravyod is freaky
L349[20:20:34] <Althego> what is
that
L350[20:22:17] <raptop> blood +
gravy
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