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L32[08:30:46] <Mat2ch> With a ship like the
Enterprise I might just not give a damn thing about regulations
:D
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L40[10:28:28] <Althego> hmm, zombie eating
cabbage, this will be interesting
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L43[10:36:02] <Althego> very sad singing,
because she hates cabbage
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L49[12:14:39] <Althego> high visibility
lol
L50[12:17:08] <Mat2ch> hrhr
L51[12:17:21] <Mat2ch> no wind, because
with wind there wouldn't be any fog. ;)
L52[12:17:52] <Althego> nerdle cam is
similar too
L54[12:45:57] <Althego> what already at
engine chill
L55[12:48:13] <Althego> guess the mystery
vent
L56[12:48:20] <Althego> cant see
anything
L58[12:53:49] <Althego> the ship may be
able to operate in this fog, but this is a test program, data is
important. visual information is one such thing
L59[12:53:57] <Althego> and i was afraid of
the wind, didnt think of fog
L60[12:55:00] <darsie> Spacex stream
streaming
L61[12:55:05] <Althego> but no sound
L62[12:55:07] <Althego> sneaky
L63[12:55:39] <Althego> visibility seems to
be slowly restoring
L64[12:56:27] <darsie> countdown
L65[12:56:45] <Althego> 3:30
L66[12:57:05] <Althego> at least if there
is an engine issue they can try again today
L67[12:57:21] <Mat2ch> well
L68[12:57:42] <Mat2ch> and if something
happens, they can clean it up fast and place SN12 on the landing
pad. :D
L69[12:58:05] <Althego> hehe
L70[12:58:11] <Althego> wait, is that even
there?
L71[12:58:13] <Althego> isnt it sn15
L72[12:58:28] <Mat2ch> Hm
L73[12:58:39] <Mat2ch> now that you say it,
yeah, should be SN15
L74[12:59:18] <Althego> T-1 min almost
visible
L75[13:00:02] <Althego> i like the tenth
display in the countdown
L76[13:00:29] <Althego> sn11 is doing
L77[13:00:52] <Althego> that flame looks
nasty
L78[13:02:35] <Althego> the fog must be a
countermeasure against industrial espionage and media making fun of
them because of explosion
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L81[13:06:32] <Althego> doesnt look
right
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L83[13:06:58] <Althego> doesnt sound right
either
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L85[13:08:00] <Mat2ch> well
L86[13:08:06] <Mat2ch> they should have
waited for the fog to clear
L87[13:08:27] <Mat2ch> and one of the
engines didn't look quiet right
L88[13:08:32] <Mat2ch> way to orange
plume
L89[13:08:34] <Althego> i think it didnt
reach the ground
L90[13:08:40] <Mat2ch> *too orange
L91[13:08:43] <Althego> not in one pievce
at least
L92[13:08:57] <packbart> it sounded explody
on the labpadre stream (but no views)
L93[13:09:40] <Althego> one stream
mentioned the flight termination system
L94[13:09:54] <Althego> we didnt see all
engines light up
L95[13:10:07] <Althego> maybe that is why
it exploded
L96[13:13:10] <Mat2ch> yeah, as I said one
of the engines didn't look very well :|
L97[13:15:51] <Althego> we also didnt know
how they solved the header tank pressure issue
L98[13:16:20] <Mat2ch> helium.
L99[13:16:45] <Mat2ch> I hope they get the
RCS thrusters ready soon. The raptor flip doesn't work very
well.
L100[13:17:07] <Althego> no, the helium
caused the last crash
L101[13:17:12] <packbart> "tim dodd
the everyday astronaut lost his 20000$ worth of cameras"
L102[13:17:22] <packbart> don't stand in
the way of science
L103[13:17:26] <Althego> one nsf camera
took a hit
L104[13:17:35] <Althego> maybe just
shockwave
L105[13:18:39] <Althego> how do you lose
20k worth of cameras?
L106[13:19:11] <packbart> put up a few
cameras, drop starship debris onto it, badger Patreons for new
equipment
L107[13:19:17] <Mat2ch> several cameras,
automatic tripods and lenses...
L108[13:19:23] <Althego> ah those close
ones
L109[13:19:48] <Althego> those areprobably
all in one place
L110[13:20:12] <Althego> so the nsf cam is
probably next to it too
L111[13:20:37] <packbart> so that was a
big boring nothing. 0 rating, won't watch again
L112[13:20:55] <packbart> next!
L113[13:21:06] <Althego> the left engine
didnt move closer to the camera as the others
L114[13:21:19] <Althego> hydraulic
failure?
L115[13:25:17] <Mat2ch> there were things
burning on the way up
L116[13:25:26] <Althego> yes
L117[13:25:32] <Althego> but that also
happened before
L118[13:25:36] <Mat2ch> could have been
hydraulic fluid
L119[13:25:40] <Mat2ch> yeah
L120[13:25:53] <Mat2ch> well, we will
never know, because SpaceX doesn't tell much :D
L121[13:26:12] <Althego> so if hydraulics
failed and it wasnt sufficiently under control it really could have
been the flight termination system
L122[13:26:47] <Althego> i really hoped
that it can land now
L123[13:27:03] <Mat2ch> or a raptor blew
up on ingnition
L124[13:27:04] <Althego> at least i have
malicious compliance and entitled people lined up
L125[13:27:27] <Althego> where does the
engine gets the hydraulic pwoer from?
L126[13:27:41] <Mat2ch> electric pump
maybe
L127[13:27:47] <Althego> probably from its
own turbopump
L128[13:27:59] <Mat2ch> two tesla battery
packs should provide enough power for them
L129[13:28:39] <Mat2ch> well, now we have
to wait for Elon to tell us what happend.
L131[13:28:47] <packbart> blame the FAA,
probably
L132[13:29:04] <Althego> at this point it
starts to look like a money waster
L133[13:29:31] <Althego> i want it to
succeed so badly
L134[13:29:51] <Althego> because at this
point it is clear only spacex can go to mars, nobody else is
close
L135[13:30:10] <packbart> well, a lot of
equipment has gone to Mars already
L136[13:30:15] <Althego> yes
L137[13:30:36] <Althego> but i am talking
about humans
L138[13:32:06] <Althego> huge pieces fell
down in a wide area
L139[13:32:14] <Althego> at least there is
no hypergolic stuff in it
L141[13:34:51] <Althego> is there a way to
see through fog?
L142[13:34:56] <Althego> some other
wavelength?
L143[13:36:49] <Althego> letting those
raptors explode is such a waste
L144[13:37:04] <Althego> add an ejection
system :)
L145[13:37:15] <packbart> aren't they just
3D-printed?
L146[13:38:12] <packbart> maybe just use
crushable engines instead of landing legs
L147[13:38:16] <Althego> hehe
L148[13:38:55] <Althego> regenerative
cooling, crashed nozzle is basically sure way for an
explosion
L150[13:53:22] <Mat2ch> Funny how easy it
is to spot that...
L151[13:53:36] <Mat2ch> they really should
do a full static fire test before they fly
L152[13:53:52] <Mat2ch> but that probably
needs cooling and a flame diverter.
L153[13:53:56] <Althego> full
duration
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L156[13:56:07] <Althego> so spacex took
failure up to 11
L157[14:03:28] <Althego> did starhopper
become tilted a bit or is that just the camera?
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L159[14:04:23] <packbart> I see
nothink
L161[14:05:41] <packbart> ah. hm. I see
something
L162[14:07:25] <Althego> but it loks like
the camera is movable
L163[14:07:41] <Althego> and aside from
that it may have moved during the explosion
L164[14:09:28] <packbart> the blast
blasted blubber beyond all believable bounds
L166[14:11:38] <Althego> i want metal
shine on ksp too
L167[14:12:11] <packbart> there's a mod
for that
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L170[14:27:58] <Althego> oh yes, broken
silicon with hardware unboxed
L171[14:28:58] <nate> I like how twitter
can auto/'AI' heuristically nuke tweets on any variety of
'standards' violations but elons tweet there is literally just
chock full of scam spam that a simple word filter would easily
prevent lol
L172[14:29:19] <Althego> ah the btc
spams?
L173[14:29:32] <nate> Yeah, more of that
than there seems to be actual normal responses
L174[14:29:56] <Althego> ai is
unreliable
L175[14:30:02] <Althego> at least for
now
L176[14:30:12] <Althego> but may be so
that they handle people differently
L177[14:30:31] <nate> Well it's not real
AI which is a big part of it (which is why I put emphisizing on it
:P)
L178[14:30:48] <Althego> it is almost
politics but we know that youtube and twitter changes behavior with
people
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L180[15:06:24] <Althego> oh no, chicken on
route c. no, i cant watch that, the last nier stream was 7.5 hours
too
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L192[15:28:06] <darsie> Dust or water
clouds?
L193[15:28:26] <Althego> these look like
clouds
L194[15:28:35] <Althego> dust wouldnt tbe
this bright
L195[15:28:42] <Althego> there are
sometimes clouds on mars
L196[15:29:03] <darsie> mhm
L198[15:31:06] <Althego> almost
deployed
L199[15:31:44] <Althego> how big is easter
in the usa? are they going to continue with this?
L200[15:31:50] <Althego> or only on
tuesday?
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L203[15:56:42] <raptop> look like cirrus,
really
L204[15:57:08] <raptop> Lots of things are
closed on Easter, so that might be a 1 day delay
L205[15:57:38] <Althego> on the other hand
typically in the beginning of a mission they are on mars time
L206[15:58:00] <Althego> later as they get
better with the vehicle they go back to normal time
L207[15:58:09] <Althego> and there is no
easter on mars :)
L208[15:58:24] <raptop> heh
L209[16:01:52] <Althego> so no holiday on
friday, that is good
L210[16:02:01] <Althego> just on
monday
L211[16:02:17] <Althego> if i understood
correctly
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L213[16:05:06] <Althego> kikkerikii
L214[16:13:16] <raptop> Anyway, wasn't the
important holiday the evening of the 25th?
L215[16:13:47] <raptop> Hrm, I'm
definitely losing track of time
L216[16:13:53] <raptop> That was the
27th
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L220[17:26:17] <flayer> oh bugger
L221[17:26:21] <flayer> the ion thingie
blew up!
L222[17:27:02] <Althego> how
L223[17:27:05] <Althego> jumped up?
L224[17:27:17] <flayer> i guess
L225[17:27:41] <flayer> oh well it's not
necessary for the contract
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L227[17:37:23] <flayer> ugh, and some of
the solar panels aren't connected to the main thing
L228[17:37:28] <flayer> even though
they're all right besides each other
L229[17:40:47] <packbart> "SpaceX
team lost connection to SN11, they couldn’t see so unfortunately
FTS had to be activated for Safety." - don't they have
radar?
L230[17:40:57] <Althego> lol
L231[17:41:06] <Althego> so it would have
been better to launch without fog
L232[17:46:07] <packbart> the wind
forecast was unfavourable and the next test article is ready to
roll out. so I guess they would have scrapped SN10 anyway if they'd
postponed the launchc
L233[17:46:22] <packbart> 10? 11
L234[17:48:29] <packbart> only no press is
bad press
L235[17:58:37] <darsie> packbart:
source?
L236[18:02:27] <packbart> Internet
L238[18:18:01] <flayer> lol... oops,
burned the wrong way to get an intercept
L239[18:18:08] <flayer> oh well.. its just
gilly, i can turn around XD
L240[18:19:05] <flayer> if i hadn't seen
the 170 degrees ascending node i might not even have noticed
L241[18:45:37] <FLHerne> packbart:
Grepping my IRC logs, I have literally never seen anyone mention
this twitter account before
L242[18:46:36] <FLHerne> So insert
skepticism here
L243[18:47:20] <packbart> I only trust
Scott Manley, anyway ;)
L244[18:47:24] <Althego> hehe
L245[18:47:43] <packbart> "Joined
March 2021" - well that would explain why you never saw that
account mentioned before
L246[18:48:25] <FLHerne> Well, yeah, but
that means it has no history of posting non-made-up information
:p
L247[18:49:52] <FLHerne> Going through the
history, I can't find anything else that wasn't public information
at the time, and there are a couple of photo captions that are just
wrong
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L264[20:10:56] <flayer> 6 mainsails, 2
pollox
L265[20:11:10] <flayer> this is a crazy
contraption
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L270[20:19:30] <raptop> That sounds like a
job for the size 3 engines
L271[20:21:29] <flayer> i need to collect
more science first
L272[20:21:55] <flayer> if this doesnt
work then i will have to use smaller rockets and more boring
designs
L273[20:29:39] <raptop> heh
L274[20:31:32] <flayer> as an alternative
plan, i think i could theoretically launch this spaceplane with a
big fuel tank and one mainsail as cargo, rather than its actual
intended cargo, and then launch the actual cargo with a smaller
ssto spaceplane
L275[20:31:56] <flayer> i think i'll do
that instead
L276[20:32:03] <flayer> this is just a
waste of big orange tanks
L277[20:32:11] <flayer> and struts
L278[20:32:13] <flayer> and
mainsails
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