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L30[08:31:16] <Althego> zombanwa
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L35[09:49:35] <Mat2ch> https://www.mbl.is/frettir/sjonvarp/218438/ fascinating this is
L36[09:50:48] <darsie> Someone posted that on freenode before :)
L37[09:51:07] <Althego> is that the recent volcanic activity on island?
L38[09:51:34] <Althego> btw there is at least one guy on the internet, who lives in hawaii, and believes volcanos are fake/lie/conspiracy
L39[09:51:53] <Althego> because nobody has ever seen lava flowing out of a cone shaped mountain
L40[09:54:17] <Althego> what, there is a live cam? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_9z9-ndZnA
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L43[09:57:18] <Althego> helpful people even say it for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ersOzJQOrUs
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L46[10:06:01] <Mat2ch> Althego: that must be rule 35. If it exists, there's a live cam of it.
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L50[10:48:31] <Mat2ch> Multiport docking seems to be broken now :(
L51[10:48:49] <Althego> it never worked for me
L52[10:48:55] <Althego> even when they said it did
L53[10:49:06] <Althego> but i dont use it normally so doesnt matter to me
L54[10:49:13] <Mat2ch> it was somewhat broken a few versions back where you couldn't align two ports anymore properly (they were always a few milli degrees off)
L55[10:49:19] <Mat2ch> and now it doesn't seem to work at all :|
L56[10:49:29] <Mat2ch> I love multiport docking
L57[10:49:54] <Mat2ch> makes it possible to dock huge pushing stages together without having to launch them in one piece
L58[10:50:18] <Mat2ch> and I'd like to have docking ports where I can set the snap degrees. So that they align properly to 90° or so
L59[10:50:42] <Mat2ch> I could go with one docking port, since now it should be possible to add struts in space
L60[10:50:57] <Althego> obvious solution, we need a super heavy docking port
L61[10:51:13] <Mat2ch> Docking clamps :D
L62[10:51:18] <Althego> if there are decouplers in all sizes, there should be docking port too
L63[10:51:28] <Althego> you can already build your clamps
L64[10:51:38] <Mat2ch> uh, how?
L65[10:51:57] <Althego> turn on what is its name something like craft interaction
L66[10:52:02] <Althego> for parts
L67[10:52:06] <Althego> and then you cna hold onto other parts
L68[10:52:14] <Althego> for example with landing legs
L69[10:52:14] <Mat2ch> oh, that
L70[10:52:21] <Althego> or with the robotics parts
L71[10:53:13] <Althego> same vessel interaction
L72[10:53:39] <Althego> you couldeven build your own docking port like this
L73[10:53:55] <Mat2ch> Same vessel interaction, thanks for the hint.
L74[10:54:06] <Althego> i never tried it
L75[10:54:07] <Mat2ch> now it docks, but is still offset.
L76[10:54:29] <Althego> since most of the time it is a blessing that legs and moving things can clip through other parts
L77[10:55:32] <Mat2ch> https://imgur.com/a/4b4v6tw
L78[10:55:34] <Mat2ch> Meh!
L79[10:55:50] <Mat2ch> I ask the forum :P
L80[11:03:36] <Althego> electron launch in 11 a hours and some minutes
L81[11:03:47] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5wmrGriVX0
L82[11:03:56] <Althego> not ideal for watching here
L83[11:06:54] <Mat2ch> So, uh, post made, now I wait.
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L85[11:32:00] <Althego> zombanwa
L86[11:38:18] <Althego> apex until she the zombie dies. died by falling into the water
L87[12:37:14] <Althego> (local) leet time
L88[12:39:29] <Althego> the opposite of formaldehyde is casualdejekyll
L89[13:00:56] <UmbralRaptop> ranked competitive Hyde
L90[13:05:20] <Mat2ch> ah, the ground is already venting
L91[13:05:39] <Mat2ch> this time in Boca Chica and not Iceland. :D
L92[13:05:57] <Althego> hehe
L93[13:06:30] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTA0GTgFn5E
L94[13:06:45] <Althego> ah i slways forget they already had dst
L95[13:07:27] <Mat2ch> yeah, stupid dst. :(
L96[13:07:33] <Mat2ch> Coming up here, too, real soon
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L100[13:55:41] <Althego> siren
L101[13:56:52] <Althego> there was something
L102[13:56:55] <Althego> kind of long
L103[13:57:44] <Althego> it seems they are starting to get the hang of it
L104[13:58:37] <Althego> they got to the static fire in an hour? or maybe the shift starts at 6?
L105[13:59:25] <Althego> also elon claimed the vacuum raptor development is going well
L106[14:00:19] <Althego> it seems such a waste to have 6 engines but only use 3 of them
L107[14:00:45] <Althego> couldnt they have some kind of nozzle extension that can turn on or off?
L108[14:01:40] <Mat2ch> Althego: probably yes, but patented.
L109[14:01:48] <Althego> lol
L110[14:01:53] <Althego> but nobody used such a thing
L111[14:02:00] <Althego> i mean there is one that can turn on
L112[14:02:07] <Mat2ch> eh, that is used!
L113[14:02:11] <Althego> but it is there to conserve space
L114[14:02:12] <Mat2ch> let me look for it
L115[14:02:23] <Althego> but i dont know one that can then turn off
L116[14:02:40] <Althego> also there might be slight differences in the engine too
L117[14:03:21] <Mat2ch> https://patents.google.com/patent/US9200597B1/en
L118[14:03:57] <Mat2ch> I'm pretty sure other people had the same idea
L119[14:04:19] <Althego> there is no separate data on the wiki about the two raptor variants. there is a vacuum isp and a sea level isp, but i assume that is for the normal variant. or the vacuum is for the vacuum variant and the sea level for the sea level variant?
L120[14:04:28] <Althego> damn those patents
L121[14:04:57] <Mat2ch> http://www.astronautix.com/r/rl-10b-2.html
L122[14:05:00] <Mat2ch> I knew it
L123[14:05:12] <Althego> yes this is the one i kow
L124[14:05:15] <Althego> but it never turns off
L125[14:05:22] <Althego> just unpacks itself after staging
L126[14:06:13] <Mat2ch> yeah
L127[14:06:24] <Mat2ch> but packing it back would be rather easy
L128[14:07:12] <Mat2ch> it's just not needed, because it is only used on upper stages and they are then dumped into the ocean.
L129[14:12:21] <Althego> it is such a trivial idea that it took me like 5 seconds to think of it
L130[14:12:27] <Althego> and they could patent it
L131[14:13:38] <Althego> reminds me of the boulton and watt steam engines, that had this strange way to create rotational motion from oscillating motion, because of a patent. a gut could somehow patent a thousand year old idea that was known by everybody
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L133[14:14:04] <FLHerne> Althego: which wiki?
L134[14:14:18] <Althego> The Wiki
L135[14:14:25] <Althego> but later i found it in the text
L136[14:14:47] <Althego> so indeed the 380 s isp is for the vacuum version
L137[14:16:02] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSoHmwuTs-M the sun and planet gear
L138[14:17:18] <Mat2ch> I wonder how many patents could be annulled by just looking at the Antikythera mechanism
L139[14:17:24] <Althego> hehehe
L140[14:17:31] <Althego> at this point none
L141[14:17:40] <Mat2ch> why?
L142[14:17:59] <Althego> in the 18th century maybe some
L143[14:18:30] <Althego> but patents have a limited time anyway, and mechanical stuff is basically completely discovered
L144[14:18:40] <Althego> like 100 years ago
L145[14:26:30] <Althego> ok maybe cvt is relatively new, those may be under patent
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L153[15:52:06] <Althego> spring sale on gog
L154[15:52:53] <darsie> Can I get DLC on gog for KSP I have from steam?
L155[15:53:43] <flayer> yeah
L156[15:53:45] <flayer> you just need the files
L157[15:53:55] <Althego> and oyu can copy them in the game dir
L158[15:54:07] <Althego> but gog usually releases updates later because of their supposed testing
L159[15:58:18] <darsie> Are the DLC versions simultaneous with KSP?
L160[15:58:55] <packbart> no, they have their own version numbers
L161[15:58:58] <Althego> usually they are released at the same time as a ksp release. but 1.11.2 didnt release any
L162[15:59:16] <Althego> also one is having 1.11.1 as version and the other is only 1.6.1
L163[15:59:49] <Althego> burcause it was not updated for a while and they didnt keep the versions locked
L164[15:59:51] <Althego> quite annoying
L165[16:10:11] <Althego> apparently perseverance is deploying ingenuity
L166[16:10:21] <Althego> some press conference tomorrow
L167[16:11:16] <Althego> i hope they fly it in 1-2 days because it is extremely weak on its own, who knows how long it can survive
L168[16:12:10] <packbart> let's hope they mounted the INS the right way up
L169[16:12:15] <Althego> hehehe
L170[16:12:24] <Althego> i think it was tested on earth
L171[16:12:32] <Althego> but maybe t hat was a prototype
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L174[16:51:01] <darsie> Ingenuity's electronics are insulated with aerogel and battery heated, IIRC.
L175[16:51:10] <Althego> i know
L176[16:51:26] <Althego> bit most of that big cube is the insulation
L177[17:04:08] <darsie> The Ingenuity helicopter is expected to fly up to five times during its 30-day test campaign in April 2021, early in the rover's mission.
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L179[17:43:24] <Mat2ch> https://twitter.com/fael097/status/1374051058859773952 hrhr
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L181[17:43:58] <Althego> hehe
L182[17:44:05] <Althego> elon is suspiciuosly silent
L183[17:48:14] <Mat2ch> probably just has to change diapers.
L184[17:49:25] <Tank2333> what happened?
L185[17:50:22] <Althego> he has a small kid?
L186[17:50:32] <Althego> the famous x ash 12 something
L187[17:51:42] <Althego> but anyway yes there is a tank which has places for vacuum raptors
L188[17:51:50] <Althego> so there probably go in there
L189[17:52:34] <Mat2ch> I guess it's fitting test first.
L190[17:52:37] <Mat2ch> A pathfinder
L191[17:52:43] <Mat2ch> and then we will see one with actual raptors on it
L192[17:52:54] <Mat2ch> probably the one that will get launched on top of BN3...
L193[18:12:57] <Althego> oh yes, kumo desu ga nani ka read by an indonesian zombie. this is going to be epic
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L196[18:26:47] <Althego> oh i forgot to watch action lab for more than a monthj
L197[18:35:27] * labraptop assumes that that's some sort of light novel
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L200[18:59:15] <Althego> ah spaceplane episode from joe scott
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L202[19:19:02] <umaxtu> Althego, nerd
L203[19:32:34] <darsie> Althego: URL? I don't see it.
L204[19:32:52] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1-QZ35sb4Q
L205[19:33:15] <darsie> Ohh, that Scott.
L206[19:33:27] <darsie> ahh, you said it.
L207[19:44:21] <Althego> for scott i simply say scott
L208[19:45:13] <darsie> https://youtu.be/w1-QZ35sb4Q?t=605 That's phenyl hydrazine.
L209[19:47:13] <Althego> and the shuttle used mmh
L210[19:51:01] <Mat2ch> well, so many gliders
L211[19:51:06] <Mat2ch> so few real concepts
L212[19:51:32] <Mat2ch> and SpaceX with Starship around the corner destroying all prices.
L213[19:52:02] <Althego> let's hope se
L214[19:52:03] <Althego> so
L215[19:52:16] <Althego> they have to build a lot of prototypes amd infrastructure
L216[19:52:23] <Mat2ch> Do you have any doubts?
L217[19:52:30] <Mat2ch> I don't. They will make that thing fly.
L218[19:52:34] <Mat2ch> And land.
L219[19:52:36] <Althego> not to mention like 30 something raptors for just one launch
L220[19:52:51] <Mat2ch> One booster at a time.
L221[19:56:52] <Althego> there is always a doubt. all this needs a lot of money
L222[19:57:25] <Mat2ch> I'm not so sure about that.
L223[19:57:49] <Mat2ch> The raptors are expensive, but the rest? It's just a more sophisticated water tank...
L224[19:58:19] <raptop> ...how hard is the water tank to lift? Asking for myself and 29 friends
L225[19:58:45] <Althego> never mind all the buildings, the pipes, wiring, etc, the two water platforms, also the costs of starlink
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L227[22:14:54] <packbart> Today's Rocket Launch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5wmrGriVX0
L228[22:15:07] <packbart> ( Rocket Lab 'They Go Up So Fast' )
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