OCLogs: 2021-02-11.log

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L50[08:50:58] * Mat2ch yawns

L51[08:51:09] <Mat2ch> are we gonna see a static fire today?

L52[08:51:24] <Mat2ch> Road is still scheduled to be closed

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L55[08:56:05] <Althego> will martin defeat all the moles? tune in next time on wintergatan 2!

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L59[09:14:40] <Mat2ch> Althego: :D

L60[09:15:02] <Mat2ch> I had a bad feeling when he tried his pressure relieve system

L61[09:15:12] <Mat2ch> and now he has to adjust the marble heights, again

L62[09:36:34] <Althego> pressure relive system? burst disk :)

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L65[10:29:44] <Guest22564> русс есть?

L66[10:39:27] <Mat2ch> то́лько англи́йский

L67[10:40:08] <Mat2ch> Guest22564: https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/forum/91-russian-%D1%80%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9/

L68[10:57:39] <Guest22564> у кого есть дс по ксп

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L72[11:40:03] <Althego> a scott video not on his channel. i just noticed this now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLELoroqhbI

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L77[12:29:02] <Althego> around 1 week from now: 7 minutes of terror https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK6uWFl4KkU

L78[12:37:23] <Althego> (local) leet time

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L107[18:29:38] <xon> hi all

L108[18:30:26] <Althego> hi

L109[18:30:28] <Mod9000> Hello, Althego

L110[18:30:31] <Althego> oh no

L111[18:30:40] <Althego> as always it greets the wrong person

L112[18:30:53] <xon> hi

L113[18:31:00] <Judge_Dedd> Hi xon

L114[18:31:05] <xon> I am new the game community

L115[18:31:14] <Althego> maybe make it so it doesnt gereet me, i would be satisfied

L116[18:31:16] <Judge_Dedd> Warmly welcome :)

L117[18:31:38] <xon> thx :D

L118[18:31:46] <xon> can I ask a question

L119[18:31:49] <xon> about game

L120[18:31:55] <Judge_Dedd> Of course :)

L121[18:31:57] <Althego> just collected some eva science around the mun, first in this career

L122[18:32:09] <Judge_Dedd> nice

L123[18:32:13] <xon> thx

L124[18:32:15] <xon> by

L125[18:32:16] <xon> :D

L126[18:32:31] <Judge_Dedd> by ?

L127[18:32:46] <Althego> i think it is because of kthx bye

L128[18:33:25] <xon> almost 8 hours I spend my time new part round mun orbit z 400 batter attach I can't find a place to attach just I found and close to satellite almost 4 m but it docent fittet

L129[18:34:06] <darsie> xon: What is your native language?

L130[18:34:14] <xon> turkish

L131[18:34:20] <darsie> merhaba :)

L132[18:34:26] <xon> :D

L133[18:34:34] <xon> do you know turkish

L134[18:34:39] <darsie> no :)

L135[18:34:41] <xon> :D

L136[18:34:45] <xon> dosent matther

L137[18:34:51] <xon> :D

L138[18:35:17] <Althego> is this a contract? battery around the mun and have to get it?

L139[18:35:25] <darsie> I don't really understand what you're saying. Mybe post a screenshot.

L140[18:35:29] <xon> yes contract name is

L141[18:35:44] <xon> I try to finish contract

L142[18:35:52] <xon> contract name is

L143[18:36:23] <darsie> recover item from orbit around The Mun?

L144[18:36:29] <Althego> do you have this or its smaller variant? https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Advanced_Grabbing_Unit

L145[18:36:43] <xon> attach new part to satellite in orbit of mun

L146[18:36:52] <Althego> ah this is a new kind of contract

L147[18:36:53] <darsie> You need a docking port.

L148[18:36:57] <Althego> i havent seen this yet

L149[18:37:02] <darsie> hmm

L150[18:37:22] <Althego> i guess it is for the new eva construction thing

L151[18:37:24] <xon> no its part attach

L152[18:37:27] <darsie> Screenshot of contract and satellite?

L153[18:37:44] <xon> munite

L154[18:37:59] <darsie> Do you have expansions or DLC?

L155[18:38:48] <darsie> Press F1 for screenshot.

L156[18:39:01] <darsie> Then it is hidden in many directories.

L157[18:39:09] <Althego> and F for respect, X for doubt :)

L158[18:39:14] <darsie> :0

L159[18:39:15] <darsie> :)

L160[18:39:35] <X> X

L161[18:39:42] <Althego> hehe

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L164[18:41:19] <xon> how I will sen pciture

L165[18:42:02] <darsie> upload to image hoster like imgur.com or https://imgbb.com/

L166[18:42:09] <darsie> Then post link.

L167[18:42:34] <xon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pza6yjp9Ajs&t=19s

L168[18:43:05] <xon> same contract but part is different part is z 400 battery

L169[18:43:49] <darsie> Do you have expansions or DLC?

L170[18:44:06] <darsie> Like "Making History"

L171[18:44:28] <xon> no I haven't

L172[18:44:54] <xon> it doesn't required I think

L173[18:45:15] <darsie> ok

L174[18:46:12] <xon> satellite docent allow to or no place to add the that par t

L175[18:47:08] <xon> satellite doesnt alow

L176[18:47:31] <xon> satellite doesn't allow to or no place to add that part

L177[18:47:41] <darsie> I could put a solar panel in the cargo space of the Command Pod.

L178[18:47:51] <xon> I tried

L179[18:48:00] <xon> I pop all satellite part

L180[18:48:04] <xon> assemble it again

L181[18:48:09] <xon> :d

L182[18:48:12] <darsie> Maybe do an EVA with the panel in your Kerbal cargo place and try somehing.

L183[18:48:12] <xon> :D

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L185[18:48:27] <xon> I don't know what ever

L186[18:48:30] <xon> thanks

L187[18:48:31] <xon> all

L188[18:48:35] <xon> I am done \

L189[18:48:42] <Guest44026> I need help with launching a space station

L190[18:48:43] <xon> so what all doing here

L191[18:49:02] * darsie gives Guest44026 a match.

L192[18:49:41] <xon> I am leaving thanks again

L193[18:49:46] <Guest44026> what is a match

L194[18:49:51] <darsie> xon: stay here

L195[18:50:02] <darsie> Guest44026: A small piece of wood to make fire.

L196[18:50:13] <Althego> oh no i dont have any relay sat around the mun yet

L197[18:50:14] <darsie> With phosphorus in the head or so.

L198[18:50:27] <darsie> xon: Maybe we find a way.

L199[18:50:27] <Guest44026> how do I launch a station

L200[18:50:28] <Althego> unless it is a regex match :)

L201[18:50:36] <darsie> Guest44026: wiht a rocket.

L202[18:50:43] <Althego> you launch a station as anything else

L203[18:50:52] <Althego> but it becomas a station because of the docking port

L204[18:50:56] <Althego> becomes

L205[18:51:00] <darsie> Guest44026: Anything that has space for Kerbals is a space station.

L206[18:51:22] <darsie> It needs everything required in teh contract.

L207[18:51:23] <Althego> there are usually other requirements: power generation, antenna, and some other things, like fuel or cupola module, etc

L208[18:51:32] <Guest44026> I know but I tried to launch it and the rocket starting pitching down and then boooom

L209[18:51:41] <darsie> Guest44026: Balance it.

L210[18:51:51] <Guest44026> also it is too heavy

L211[18:52:03] <darsie> Make it lighter. Or use a stronger rocket.

L212[18:52:09] <darsie> Or make it more aerodynamic.

L213[18:52:37] <FLHerne> Or add more fins toward the back, to move the centre of pressure behind centre of mass

L214[18:52:47] <Guest44026> how to I make fairing be last to open

L215[18:52:50] <Guest44026> I tried fins

L216[18:52:56] <Judge_Dedd> xon, I hope you come back again soon :)

L217[18:53:04] <darsie> Move the fairing symbol in your staging sequence.

L218[18:53:14] <Guest44026> how I am on xbox

L219[18:53:19] <xon> I don't know bu ti will maybe

L220[18:53:20] <xon> :d

L221[18:53:22] <xon> :D

L222[18:53:39] <xon> I will work on it

L223[18:53:44] <xon> more hours

L224[18:53:51] <FLHerne> Huh, KSP console players really do exist?

L225[18:53:54] <xon> I have to fix it I dint miss any contract

L226[18:53:55] <Judge_Dedd> Best way to launch a station, Guest44026, is like the did it in real life: send up smaller parts one at a time and dock them together :)

L227[18:54:33] <darsie> Hmm, I have no clue how to attach a solar panel to the command pod on the launch pad.

L228[18:54:58] <Judge_Dedd> Sorry I can't help right now, xon. I hope you find a solution soon!

L229[18:55:18] <xon> thx bye

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L231[18:56:24] <Guest44026> I did try do it like real life but I don't know how to build good orbital veicle

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L233[19:03:37] <raptop> Judge_Dedd: *angry Skylab and Salyut noises*

L234[19:04:44] <Althego> hehe

L235[19:05:07] * darsie built a space station: https://i.ibb.co/yQfXR4b/screenshot324.png

L236[19:05:17] <Althego> lol

L237[19:05:21] <darsie> :)

L238[19:05:31] <Althego> i dont like the extendable antenna

L239[19:05:34] <Althego> breaks easily

L240[19:05:44] <Althego> i usually use the fixed thing

L241[19:05:45] <darsie> Good enough for space.

L242[19:05:46] <Althego> same range

L243[19:05:50] <darsie> Can withdraw it for entry.

L244[19:06:00] <darsie> Good enough for The Mun.

L245[19:06:05] <Althego> i would have put the fixed on top, and the docking port on top of the probe

L246[19:06:16] <darsie> mhm

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L248[19:08:06] <darsie> Balanced space station: https://i.ibb.co/wz1LKzP/screenshot325.png

L249[19:08:14] <kuzz_kaldrin> anyone have any idea how to execute burns in orbit

L250[19:08:34] <kuzz_kaldrin> that's good darsie but I need a payload

L251[19:08:35] <darsie> Turn to maneuver marker. Start engines.

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L253[19:08:55] <FLHerne> If it's a long burn, you'll have to start a bit early

L254[19:09:04] <kuzz_kaldrin> oh was the person who asked about stations I just switched names

L255[19:09:07] <FLHerne> (you should pass the node roughly in the middle of your burn)

L256[19:09:31] <kuzz_kaldrin> but I am on console and Idk how to execurte burn

L257[19:09:51] <Althego> the new indicator thing shows you a timer until burn, and it is purposefully early

L258[19:10:47] <FLHerne> Not sure if anyone here plays on console

L259[19:11:13] <kuzz_kaldrin> idk but on xbox I set a new mender and the when I pressed the button to execute it it just stayed still

L260[19:11:24] <kuzz_kaldrin> menuver

L261[19:11:25] <Izaya> darsie: put a mini docking port on the bottom

L262[19:11:30] <Izaya> real station tm

L263[19:11:56] <FLHerne> https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/146073-drakaus-guide-to-xbox-controls/ might be relevant

L264[19:12:04] <kuzz_kaldrin> I wanted to make station but when I done making it I don't have good rocket to launch it on

L265[19:12:20] <kuzz_kaldrin> thanks flherne

L266[19:12:21] <Izaya> oh

L267[19:12:25] <Izaya> that's not a decoupler

L268[19:12:28] <FLHerne> The PC version doesn't have a "button to execute", you have to align to the target and throttle up/down yourself

L269[19:12:29] <Izaya> never mind that's a station

L270[19:12:31] * Izaya nods

L271[19:12:37] <darsie> Izaya: I have picoports, but for this demo I used stock a port.

L272[19:12:47] <FLHerne> I don't know if the console version is different or if you've misunderstood something

L273[19:12:51] <kuzz_kaldrin> anyone know how to make the strongest rocket

L274[19:13:04] <Izaya> refer to the flowchart

L275[19:13:42] <kuzz_kaldrin> flherne i alined and id exactly that

L276[19:14:40] <kuzz_kaldrin> so no-one knows how to make strongest rocket

L277[19:14:41] <darsie> Althego: Ahh, it seems the advanced execute time thing doesn't need 'advanced tweakables' any more.

L278[19:15:10] <Izaya> kuzz_kaldrin: https://i.redd.it/bmsqiicvili21.jpg

L279[19:15:30] <Althego> hehe

L280[19:15:41] <FLHerne> It's not really a one-answer question

L281[19:15:42] <Althego> originally it is with wd40 and duct tape

L282[19:15:54] <Izaya> the strongest rocket for your usecase is when your boosters balance your struts

L283[19:15:55] <FLHerne> In career, it depends on your tech and budget

L284[19:15:58] <packbart> darsie: I remember it to have its own option "advanced burn-time indicator" or something like that. or is that a different thing?

L285[19:16:09] <FLHerne> In sandbox, you can just keep making it bigger until it works :p

L286[19:16:23] <kuzz_kaldrin> I do sandbox

L287[19:16:42] <Althego> or make it smaller until it works :)

L288[19:17:10] <kuzz_kaldrin> what is the bst rocket design for heavy payload that requires minimal manuvering

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L290[19:18:18] <raptop> In ge-

L291[19:18:19] <raptop> bah

L292[19:18:19] <darsie> kuzz_kaldrin: Big tanks/engines or booster and fins.

L293[19:18:21] <packbart> one with large control surfaces, I'd think

L294[19:18:42] <raptop> Probably with some big reaction wheels too

L295[19:18:55] <darsie> gone

L296[19:19:23] <darsie> New people. We're talking KSP again :)

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L298[19:19:33] <darsie> kuzz_kaldrin: Big tanks/engines or booster and fins.

L299[19:19:52] <Guest78015> anyone know how to land rocket

L300[19:19:53] <raptop> ^probably with a big reaction wheel or two for ease of maneuvering while the engines are off

L301[19:20:03] <raptop> Wings, or parachutes

L302[19:20:03] <darsie> Parachute.

L303[19:20:13] <raptop> Or if you're really fancy, suicide burns

L304[19:20:26] <Guest78015> I don't get what a reaction wheel is

L305[19:20:28] <darsie> Or rocket engine burns.

L306[19:20:40] <darsie> It turns one way so your rocket turns the other way.

L307[19:21:16] <Guest78015> where do you put inline stabilizer and for what

L308[19:21:17] <darsie> All hail conservation of angular momentum :).

L309[19:21:26] <raptop> Reaction wheels are a way to turn without having to interact with the outside environment (mostly). They use gyroscopes

L310[19:21:54] <Guest78015> wdym not having to interact

L311[19:21:57] <raptop> Spin the wheel one way, and the rest of your craft goes the other

L312[19:22:01] <darsie> What's an inline stabilizer.

L313[19:22:14] <raptop> I mean you don't need to fire thrusters, or move fins (in an atmosphere)

L314[19:22:15] <darsie> Guest78015: Type /nick kuzz

L315[19:22:29] <raptop> The inline stabilizer is another set of reaction wheels now, IIRC

L316[19:22:49] <packbart> darsie: the KSP part, I guess. "The Advanced Inline Stabilizer is a toggleable reaction wheel that provides torque to a craft."

L317[19:23:01] <packbart> ( https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Advanced_Inline_Stabilizer )

L318[19:23:10] <darsie> ic

L319[19:24:01] <darsie> Guest78015: It magically makes your rocket turn.

L320[19:24:12] <Guest78015> oh I was an idiot and thought it stabilized flow of propulsion and I put it under engine and I now know why it always fell off

L321[19:24:18] <packbart> (or tear itself apart :)

L322[19:24:35] <Guest78015> so it is like tvc

L323[19:25:13] <packbart> if that means "thrust vector control", then yes, similar but different

L324[19:25:34] <Guest78015> yea is there something more like tvc

L325[19:25:43] <packbart> no thrust and KSP reaction wheels are magically enhanced

L326[19:26:09] <darsie> Guest78015: Just read the instructions ;)

L327[19:26:21] <darsie> I mean the item description.

L328[19:31:52] <packbart> "If a spacecraft has rotating parts these can be utilized or controlled as CMGs" - huh. imagine steering space station with a hair dryer

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L330[19:33:36] <FLHerne> Guest78015: Most liquid engines in KSP have thrust vectoring

L331[19:33:48] <FLHerne> Oh, they've gone again

L332[19:34:01] <Althego> why is it that rare events always have to happen at the same time. 10 second burn for a rescue craft and a 20 second flyover of a tiny mun crater (but with biome)

L333[19:34:16] <Althego> i had to start burn early and correct radially to have time to switch tothe flyover

L334[19:35:15] <Althego> and before all this i collected a 3rd thermal merasurement point for a contract, luckily the last. had to stop after the second because of the mun ship circularization and pole biomes

L335[19:35:55] <packbart> probably for the same reason that docking always happens in the dark

L336[19:36:03] <Althego> hehe, yes, always

L337[19:36:49] <darsie> We now have fancy position lights.

L338[19:37:11] <darsie> And we can set target to the target docking port.

L339[19:37:38] <Althego> yes, position lights. with 30 parts limit :)

L340[19:37:54] <Althego> ok now i am on 255, so not an issue, but i didnt buy the lights yet :)

L341[19:38:09] <Althego> the random airplae parts cost a lot

L342[19:42:59] <darsie> Why do I have all SAS buttons with every computer?

L343[19:44:32] <darsie> Did I cheat?

L344[19:44:37] <packbart> because of a bug in 1.11.1

L345[19:44:41] <darsie> ic

L346[19:46:07] * raptop was wondering

L347[19:46:31] <packbart> ( https://bugs.kerbalspaceprogram.com/issues/27169 )

L348[19:48:57] <Althego> once i got sas buttons with engineer in cockpit

L349[19:50:15] <Althego> but couldnt move back valentina because of the pipe design of the ship (capsule on top, 2 passenger thingie below)

L350[19:50:23] <packbart> well, it's in the "Assigned" state. so maybe there's a chance for 1.11.2

L351[19:51:27] <packbart> otoh, you could also just ignore those options and pretend they don't exist. so it's not a "totally unplayable!!1" category bug

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L354[19:59:38] * darsie rescues a Kerbal from orbit. He's entered the atmosphere ...

L355[20:01:33] <darsie> https://i.ibb.co/DpwYd5J/screenshot329.png

L356[20:01:46] <packbart> "Random Kerman, here's your rescue plan: Leave the capsule, then fire your jetpack retrograde. In case you didn't bring a parachute, try to land helmet-first."

L357[20:02:13] <Althego> hehe

L358[20:04:56] <darsie> No. Assume vertical attitude for maximal aerobraking and land at a low spot for high atmospheric density for maximal drag.

L359[20:04:57] <raptop> it's probably fine

L360[20:05:22] <packbart> from their very low orbit, it usually is

L361[20:05:26] <darsie> He has a chute, though.

L362[20:06:29] <Althego> random kerman. in hhgttg there is a character with the first name random :)

L363[20:07:20] <packbart> Random Frequent Flyer Dent

L364[20:07:47] <Althego> i didnt remember the frequent flyer part

L365[20:07:59] <packbart> me neither. https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/Random_Dent

L366[20:08:21] <Althego> weather is not so great in boca chica

L367[20:09:22] <darsie> Dandorf Kerman on chute above KSC at night: https://i.ibb.co/hWk77rz/screenshot330.png

L368[20:09:41] <Althego> you got that close from orbit?

L369[20:09:41] <Althego> nice

L370[20:10:36] <darsie> Well, I flew a bit with the chute, too.

L371[20:10:50] <darsie> I have experience with that :).

L372[20:11:17] <packbart> I learned from darsie to start the burn just over the last desert peninsula before the KSC. the low orbit rescues start from a 70-80km orbit, so already have quite low velocity

L373[20:11:37] <darsie> 70.5ish km

L374[20:11:50] <darsie> Burn 3.1 EVA fuel retrograde.

L375[20:12:07] <darsie> Low orbit has high velocity.

L376[20:12:36] <packbart> uh. hm. right. low energy? they don't burn as much as an interplanetary return

L377[20:13:03] <packbart> have you tried the method for a Minmus rescue?

L378[20:13:35] <darsie> Later adjustments can be done with varible drag by variable attitude.

L379[20:13:51] <packbart> from Minmus surface to Kerbin reentry should easily be within the jetpack dV range

L380[20:14:46] <darsie> Maybe. Would require lots of shallow aerobraking entries to avoid burning up.

L381[20:15:17] <darsie> You need 3.1 EVA fuel for entry.

L382[20:15:31] <darsie> Fortunately the orbit is littered with pods to refuel.

L383[20:16:34] <umaxtu> isn't there an extra eva fuel backpack now?

L384[20:16:57] <darsie> yes

L385[20:17:01] <darsie> 3 EVA fuel in it

L386[20:17:17] <darsie> I don't think stranded Kerbals would have that.

L387[20:17:29] <darsie> Fell down at touch down.

L388[20:29:57] <FLHerne> darsie: Low orbit has low velocity for a given altitude :p

L389[20:31:03] <darsie> Well, you're slower at Pe with a circular orbit.

L390[20:33:54] <Althego> i need healing

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