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L17[01:57:57] <JVFoxy> ... don't suppose
anyone plays old, retro space based games?
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L19[02:02:25] <darsie> Galaxy :)
L21[02:02:35] <darsie> Space Invaders?
:)
L22[02:03:18] <JVFoxy> was hoping for
something akin to station simulator.. although. I guess I could try
getting MS Spacesim on this laptop
L23[02:03:36] <JVFoxy> although, it might
run a little too crazy fast 0_o
L24[02:03:43] <darsie> Elite?
L25[02:04:54] <JVFoxy> old version, the one
that docking is a serious pain?
L26[02:05:16] <darsie> C64/Amiga
L27[02:05:25] <darsie> Not sure if I played
it on C64.
L28[02:07:00] <JVFoxy> I would have to
probably dump big games on a flash drive since laptop has limited
space
L30[02:10:31] <JVFoxy> just a little sad,
keeping self from home, because issues, and not really a whole lot
to do
L31[02:12:54] <Alanonzander> JVFoxy: Try
Factorio ?
L32[02:13:44] *
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Infinifactory
L33[02:14:14] <raptop> I guess as far as
old games go, there are Alpha Centauri and TIE Fighter
L34[02:16:39] <JVFoxy> Alanozander I saw it
played, looks interesting. Not sure laptop could handle..
L35[02:17:34] <JVFoxy> seen Satisfactory,
not sure I could get into that one so much
L36[02:21:01] *
raptop feels like they'd either bounce off of factorio, or get way
too into it
L37[02:31:37] <JVFoxy> I've seen some crazy
creations other's have done with the game
L38[03:02:44] <Alanonzander> JVFoxy: if you
have steam, grab the free demo, see how it plays
L39[03:05:13] <JVFoxy> oops.. don't have
steam, oh well
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L59[08:05:30] <nyarlathotep> Lyneira,
hi
L60[08:19:11] <raptop> nyanlathotep
L62[08:26:45] <raptop> something like
that
L63[08:31:04] <nyarlathotep> raptop,
uwu
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L66[08:35:22] <nyarlathotep> Althego,
sharks are cute
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L69[08:51:09] *
UmbralRaptop imagines gura playing doom
L70[08:52:47] <Althego> calli did
L71[08:53:31] *
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L72[08:55:18] <UmbralRaptop> … it could be
another callie/korone collab!
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L74[08:57:45] <nyarlathotep> UmbralRaptop,
I want to cuddle a shark
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L76[08:58:04] <Althego> dont, their skin is
like sandpaper
L77[08:58:41] <Althego> and their teeth are
like a buzz saw
L78[08:59:18] <UmbralRaptop> nyarlathotep:
consider: blahaj
L79[09:00:33] <Althego> a few years ago
there were these rc flying fish balloons
L80[09:00:35] <nyarlathotep> UmbralRaptop,
good idea
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L84[09:07:50] <Althego> btw there was no
static fire
L85[09:24:00] <Mat2ch> Sadly not.
L86[09:24:39] <Mat2ch> I was watching, when
they aborted. Two or three minutes before the predicted
fireing
L87[09:24:54] <Mat2ch> *sad trombone*
L88[09:25:38] <Althego> wait, there is no
road closure
L89[09:27:55] <Althego> so static fire and
launch who knows when
L90[09:28:10] <Althego> also weather seems
bad too
L91[09:28:29] <Mat2ch> on the other hand,
the video I'm not allowed to talk about has 40 mio views ;)
L92[09:44:29] <packbart> why are you not
allowed to talk about Thought Emporium?
L93[09:45:48] <Mat2ch> Uhm, I mean a
totally different video ;)
L94[09:45:56] <packbart> ah, ok
L95[09:46:47] <packbart> right, that was
Althego, sorry. got that confused
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L97[09:48:00] <packbart> another thing that
probably could be done via video conference or even just the
phone
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L101[09:51:18] <Althego> it was a video
about putin
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L108[10:30:30] <packbart> ah, the Smoke
Alarm Tester Guy didn't just test but replaced them all
L109[10:30:38] <packbart> ok, that would
not be possible remotely
L110[10:31:55] <darsie> Batteries?
L111[10:32:21] <packbart> the whole unit,
actually. probably easier and more reliable than just changing
batteries
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L124[12:42:53] <Mat2ch> SpaceX bought two
oil drilling plattforms and wants to transform them to launch and
landing pads
L125[12:44:10] <Mat2ch> "The two rigs
sold for $3.5 million each" that's expensive for oil rigs.
They must be in a good shape. Usually you can get them for less
than their scrap value
L126[12:45:24] <emyn_muil> Mat2ch, what
would he do with all the oil
L127[12:45:29] <emyn_muil> I hope he isn't
dismantling them
L128[12:51:54] <Mat2ch> emyn_muil: you
might want to read the article. Or what I've written.
L129[12:53:24] <packbart> could fuel the
Starship from the Big Methane Tank under the sea ;) (yeah, just
kidding)
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L131[13:10:18] <Althego> the issue is, the
superheavy booster is too loud. therefore cant launch from land
because of environmental (people dont like it) regulations
L132[13:10:32] <Althego> around 28 or so
raptor engines
L133[13:11:25] <emyn_muil> Mat2ch, even if
he transforms them I hope he keeps the oil part
L134[13:11:29] <emyn_muil> Let me read the
post
L135[13:12:44] <emyn_muil> That article
doesn't clearly say anything weather the oil drilling part would be
disbanded or not
L136[13:12:47] <packbart> and I guess they
wouldn't want to launch from a heavily corroded scrap-rig, hence
the price
L137[13:12:52] <emyn_muil> But it'd be
dumb to disband it
L138[13:13:08] <emyn_muil> Why squander a
nice source of gas for your rockets
L139[13:13:15] <packbart> why? it's of not
much use to SpaceX
L140[13:13:24] <emyn_muil> How will they
fuel their rockets?
L141[13:13:32] <packbart> they buy
methane
L142[13:13:40] <packbart> from
experts
L143[13:13:43] <emyn_muil> Even so oil is
precious
L144[13:13:53] <packbart> it's mostly
nasty and sticky
L145[13:13:56] <emyn_muil> Its a rare
resource that should not be squandered
L146[13:14:07] <packbart> not much use
pumping crude oil into a Starship tank
L147[13:14:11] <emyn_muil> The Russians
used to use vodka
L148[13:14:31] <packbart> oil rigs are not
a rare resource
L149[13:14:45] <emyn_muil> An oil rig can
only exist where oil exists
L150[13:14:55] <packbart> nah, it can be
dragged anywhere
L151[13:15:04] <packbart> they're ususally
repositionable
L152[13:15:23] <emyn_muil> How?
L153[13:15:34] <emyn_muil> You can only
drill oil where oil exists
L154[13:15:51] <packbart> by pulling it
with ships to another location
L155[13:16:40] <emyn_muil> And how will
the ship drill for oil?
L156[13:16:42] <packbart> there are even
special low-loading truckships
L157[13:16:52] <packbart> it doesn't. duh.
anyway. whatevs
L158[13:17:11] <emyn_muil> The ship can't
produce oil from think air to "pull" it to an oil
rig
L159[13:18:29] <Mat2ch> Uhm. You should
watch some documentaries about oil rigs...
L160[13:19:23] <emyn_muil> I can't
understand how you can just move a rig to any random point
L161[13:19:30] <emyn_muil> A rig can only
drill if there is oil underneath
L162[13:19:43] <Mat2ch> They are usually
anchored to the bottom of the ocean, but swim. They are not really
drilling there, usually there's only a pipe going down to the oil
pocket under the sea bed and they pump it into their storage
tanks
L163[13:19:56] <Mat2ch> once a week an oil
tanker visits and takes the oil to shore
L165[13:20:29] <emyn_muil> Either way oil
exists underneath that point
L167[13:21:21] <Mat2ch> you go out and
drill, if you find oil, you get oil rig pulled there, anchor it to
the bottom of the ocean, pump oil.
L168[13:53:55] <Althego> yet another
protocol that makes our lives harder: ice
L169[13:56:00] <emyn_muil> Althego,
hi
L170[14:05:38] <Mat2ch> Althego:
link?
L172[14:06:16] <Althego> if it helps
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L174[14:16:56] <Mat2ch> ugh, NAT
L175[14:17:17] <Mat2ch> NAT should be dead
by now. But we are still using IPv4 everywhere
L176[14:18:01] <emyn_muil> Mat2ch,
networking is a very subtle subject
L177[14:19:21] <Althego> hey we dont even
support ipv6 fully yet. because there is literally no reason
to
L178[14:19:38] <Althego> every provider
using ipv4 internally
L179[14:19:49] <emyn_muil> Its a very
subtle and complex thing
L180[14:19:57] <emyn_muil> With a lot of
history behind it
L181[14:20:00] <Althego> and quick to
anger?
L182[14:20:27] <Althego> (like
wizards)
L183[14:20:40] <emyn_muil> Althego, that
too
L184[14:21:22] <Althego> anyway as usual,
with all the not mentioned things ice becomes complicated
L185[14:23:53] <emyn_muil> Althego, have
you looked inside an ethernet wire when its working?
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L187[14:24:01] <emyn_muil> Our bits are
flowing through them
L188[14:24:04] <emyn_muil> Its a scary
thought
L189[14:24:15] <Althego> no, but i do
packet captures
L190[14:24:25] <emyn_muil> These
wires
L191[14:24:33] <emyn_muil> They are
Atlas
L192[14:24:38] <emyn_muil> They are
holding the weight of the world
L193[14:24:53] <emyn_muil> They and other
networking hardwares
L194[14:25:06] <Althego> i think that is
truer? more true? for fiber optics
L195[14:27:50] <emyn_muil> Althego, the
hundreds of algorithms in use inside the lower layers of the
network for the management of traffic
L196[14:27:53] <emyn_muil> They are scary
complex
L197[14:28:10] <Althego> luckily i am in
the application layer
L198[14:28:16] <emyn_muil> Yes
L199[14:28:17] <Althego> that is already
too complex
L200[14:28:32] <emyn_muil> The data link
layer for example has some really intricate algorithms to manage
traffic
L201[14:29:19] <Althego> sip alone with
100rel support, update support, sdp, rtp, srtp is already a
mess
L202[14:29:56] <emyn_muil> Althego, there
are many conveniences and abstractions one has available on the
application layer
L203[14:30:06] <emyn_muil> They are
protected from the dark outer hells of the lower networking
layers
L204[14:30:25] *
Mat2ch looks for the pills
L205[14:30:27] <Mat2ch> :P
L206[14:30:43] <emyn_muil> What
pills?
L207[14:31:49] <Althego> oh i dint mention
call transfer, conferences, music on hold, ringback tone,
transcoding, transcrypting, h323 interworking
L208[14:36:41] <emyn_muil> Althego, the
dark gods of the outer networking hells
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L216[15:59:50] <Mat2ch> !road
L217[15:59:55] <Kerbot> Mat2ch =>
Primary; Thursday, Jan 21, 2021; 8:00 am to 5:00 pm; Scheduled |
Secondary; Friday, Jan 22, 2021; 7:00 am to 12:00 pm;
Scheduled
L218[16:00:04] <Mat2ch> Althego: static
fire maybe today.
L219[16:00:11] <Althego> hah this is
new
L220[16:00:33] <Althego> but obviously no
flight
L221[16:00:37] <Althego> tomorrow
L222[16:16:08] <Mat2ch> they have a tfr
for Saturday
L224[16:19:54] <Althego> isolated
thunderstorms
L225[16:20:09] <Althego> i guess if they
can wait for the right moment
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L227[16:46:12] <Althego> i still have to
fix the shuttle to aero-fly
L228[16:59:16] <emyn_muil> Althego, are
you working on a shuttle?
L229[17:02:18] <Althego> now it is too
stable
L230[17:02:33] <Althego> and i noticed the
tank may be a tiony bit offset to the left
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L232[17:10:09] <emyn_muil> woah dude
L233[17:10:17] <emyn_muil> Good luck on
your launch
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L235[17:14:24] <Althego> the launch was
okay with zero planning though
L236[17:14:29] <Althego> even with the
slightly offset tank
L237[17:14:32] <Althego> yesterday
L238[17:14:36] <Althego> the problem is
reentry
L239[17:14:45] <Althego> maybe i have to
add hidden wing parts
L240[17:31:18] <mrBlaQ> Forever ago, I
used proc wings to make very thin strakes along my longer
tanks.
L242[17:35:01] <Althego> that is
remarcably accurate
L243[17:36:16] <mrBlaQ> I spent too long
on it. TY
L244[17:36:53] <mrBlaQ> I even used the
winch system from whatever mod for the tether landing ;)
L245[17:39:05] <Althego> i swear this
behave differently in every second launch
L246[17:39:20] <Althego> and the colored
balls are lying
L247[17:42:12] <mrBlaQ> Trust in your
feelings
L248[17:42:31] <Althego> search your
feeling, you know it to be true
L249[17:43:10] <Althego> i built it on
instinct and the launch worked all too well for that. i remember i
used to tinker with the com a lot. but those were the old times
without the vectors, just used clipped skippers
L250[17:46:13] <Althego> the wings are
made of paper glued on by technokol
L251[17:50:15] <Althego> the external tank
turned into a bomb during testing and destroyed the landing
strip
L253[17:50:40] <Althego> in 2 days
L254[17:50:54] <Althego> at least
basically all rocket youtubers had an interview with him
L255[17:51:03] <Althego> seems to be quite
open and smart guy
L256[17:51:39] <Althego> i think my
problem is a tank that didnt exist in the original shuttle
L257[17:51:51] <Althego> but i cant put
anything there
L258[17:52:17] <Althego> nothing is the
correct shape. except maybe a monoprop tank which is smaller
L259[17:52:50] <Althego> the devs should
give up this stupid different tank ideas. have the same model, make
the fuel exchangable
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L261[17:53:12] <Althego> and if i remove
the tank, i have to set up everything again
L262[17:53:21] <packbart> but but but even
Nertea uses different models for different fuels
L263[17:56:11] <Althego> i have to get a
ballast
L264[17:57:07] <Althego> otherwise that
tank in itself turns into a ballast
L265[17:57:29] <Althego> and no, i will
not put it on empty
L266[17:57:47] <packbart> use Kerbals?
;)
L267[17:58:18] <packbart> a few clipped
external command seats
L268[18:17:54] <Althego> the issue is
rather there is no part that has this clipped cylinder shape of the
shuttle elements and very thing. to put between the cargo by and
the engine holder hingie especially made for the shuttle
L269[18:18:04] <Althego> maybe the
monoprop, but i dont want that
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L274[19:36:23] <Althego> after i rebuilt
the aft part twice now it flies. but has huge empty monoprop
tank
L275[19:36:46] <Althego> at least i can
explain away that the batteries and the fuel cells are in the empty
space there
L276[19:38:16] <Althego> meanwhile on
wintergatan 2
L277[20:15:32] <mrBlaQ> I'm worried he's
gonna have a mental breakdown soon
L278[20:15:46] <Althego> i think he is
living in it :)
L279[20:15:54] <mrBlaQ> honestly I'd be OK
with him just fully investing in only improving MMX and never
touring
L280[20:16:07] <Althego> if i take out the
dummy payload it could land on the moon by delta v. but the two
terriers as oms have too small delta v. but it could probably land
on minmus
L281[20:18:00] <Althego> hmm, the dummy
payload was a fuel tank, so with that... it could go to the end of
the world
L282[20:20:07] <Althego> but ard to fly
because of the offset engines
L283[20:31:14] <Mat2ch> Road closed!
L284[20:31:54] <Althego> for a while
now
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L286[20:46:25] <Mat2ch> I could watch
Martin just play the piano for hours...
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L288[20:59:55] <Guest35860> Hi
L289[20:59:57] <Mod9000> Hello,
Guest35860
L290[21:01:02] <Guest35860> maybe this is
a common question, im new in this game and community, but how much
science you can get with an asteroid?
L291[21:01:41] <raptop> Quite a bit (I'd
have to double check how much), but it's also sort of a hassle
since it invovles getting the asteroid into different
situations
L292[21:02:09] <Guest35860> is it
worth?
L294[21:02:42] <raptop> I mean, if your
goal is "enough science to unlock everything", there's a
case to be made for mining out minmus with a secondary focus on the
mun as the easiest
L295[21:03:19] <raptop> I'd argue that a
lot of "inefficient" things are worth doing because
there's plenty of science in the kerbol system, and you want
interesting challenges
L296[21:04:42] <Guest35860> Thanks for the
info, my goal is to unlock all :p cuz i want to see what i can do
with everything, just bought the game 1 week ago and havent played
anything but easycarrer mode
L297[21:05:06] <raptop> Fair enough, and
feel free to ask questions about the various mechanics, etc
L298[21:05:28] <Guest35860> Thank
you
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L300[21:24:52] <Mat2ch> the video I'm not
allowed to talk about will hit 50 mio views soon. Crazy.
L301[21:32:33] *
raptop vaguely wonders if althego will be watching a chicken and a
detective try to defuse bombs
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L307[22:50:10] <darsie> There was a short
static fire.
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