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L37[09:23:52] <Mat2ch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvZjhWE-3zM
L38[09:23:55] <Mat2ch> No. Just no. :P
L39[09:24:06] <Mat2ch> There is so much than can go wrong here, it's not worth doing :D
L40[09:30:06] <Althego> read the title
L41[09:33:52] <Mat2ch> "Kerbal Space Program official channel"
L42[09:33:54] <Mat2ch> ;P
L43[09:33:56] <Mat2ch> :D
L44[09:38:17] <Izaya> I automated my satellite launches :D https://files.catbox.moe/872z8c.webm
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L56[13:17:16] <Mostly_Deddly> chanlog
L57[13:17:18] <Mod9000> I keep channel logs here: bitcoinshell.mooo.com/users/deddly/?C=M;O=D
L58[13:18:34] <Mostly_Deddly> Nuclear salt water rocket actually sounds like something worth pursuing
L59[13:20:36] <Mostly_Deddly> !nextlunch
L60[13:20:36] <LunchBot> Mostly_Deddly: Mushy peas.
L61[13:20:41] <Mostly_Deddly> With?
L62[13:20:46] <Mostly_Deddly> !nextlunch
L63[13:20:46] <LunchBot> Mostly_Deddly: Porridge.
L64[13:20:54] <Mostly_Deddly> Interesting combination
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L67[13:21:34] <Althego> lol
L68[13:22:07] <Judge_Dedd> I can't believe it took me so long to come up with that topic
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L81[14:12:25] <Mat2ch> !mission
L82[14:12:25] <LunchBot> Mat2ch: You search for the Mysterious Cities of Kerbin. In the ensuing investigation, you maintain that that mountain, quote, "came out of freaking nowhere."
L83[14:12:44] <Althego> hehehe
L84[14:12:52] <Althego> mysterious cities of gold
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L86[14:13:28] <Mat2ch> Ah, Gold, nothing worth anymore. Looking for burried bitcoins
L87[14:13:47] <Althego> try natural sources of antimatter
L88[14:14:32] <Althego> or maybe carbon nanotubes, but i dont know of any natural sources
L89[14:14:35] <Mat2ch> the Nerdle Cam Stream is lagging. A few hours or so behind.
L90[14:14:42] <Althego> hours? lol
L91[14:14:57] <Althego> yes it shouldnt be this dark
L92[14:15:00] <Mat2ch> oh, power outtage, so cameras down :|
L93[14:15:19] <Althego> it should be solar powered and using batteries during the night
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L107[15:01:43] <kubi> yeah, a bag of antimatter would worth a lot
L108[15:02:10] <Althego> suposedly you can collect some around the magnetic fields of jupiter
L109[15:03:02] <kubi> after covid then we travel a bit
L110[15:06:52] <Althego> you can self isolate around jupiter pretty well :)
L111[15:09:44] <darsie> Keep your distance.
L112[15:10:32] <Althego> there is only one human made object there at the moment, so you can be quite alone
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L115[15:13:30] <Althego> 17 seconds, i think it is above average
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L118[15:43:09] <cirith_gorgor> Althego, the Red Spot is entrancing
L119[15:46:37] <Althego> hehe, a sentence comes into my mind: it's shrinking!
L120[15:46:51] <cirith_gorgor> Sad
L121[15:47:08] <Althego> (from the film 2010)
L122[15:47:22] <cirith_gorgor> Althego, its violently entrancing
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L126[15:57:20] <Mat2ch> the Nerdle cam is back!
L127[15:57:28] <Mat2ch> and no undocking
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L131[15:59:45] <Mat2ch> ah, bad weather is holding them back
L132[16:00:03] <Althego> from undocking?
L133[16:00:34] <cirith_gorgor> Mat2ch, the mindless primitive violence of the Great Spot is so entrancing...it naturally guides the eye towards the epicenter of the violent cosmic storm
L134[16:01:13] <Althego> have to hurry and get there to have humans look at it before it completely vanishes. at least that is no going to be our fault
L135[16:01:48] <Mat2ch> Althego: from landing
L136[16:02:27] <Althego> what is coming back?
L137[16:03:24] <Mat2ch> CRS-21, Cargo Dragon
L138[16:04:52] <Althego> i guess it uses the same landing areas as the crew dragon now, so the weather around there has some effect on that
L139[16:22:04] <Mat2ch> It's landing in the Atlantic ocean now. NASA wished for that. Probably because it's easier to get it to KSC.
L140[16:23:06] <Althego> i dont get why americans are so afraid of solid gorund
L141[16:23:37] <Althego> the russians have ben using land since forever
L142[16:26:09] <FLHerne> Starliner does
L143[16:26:17] <Althego> and it doesnt work
L144[16:26:33] <FLHerne> Well, the airbags seem to work ok
L145[16:26:42] <Althego> just the whole thing doesnt
L146[16:26:46] <Althego> with the 90 or so issues
L147[16:26:56] <FLHerne> And Dragon was going to land on land, but NASA didn't like retropropulsion
L148[16:27:02] <Mat2ch> With SpaceX water was always just the secondary option. But when NASA decided that they don't like powered landings, the primary option was gone.
L149[16:27:11] <Althego> iwasnt the issue the landing legs poking through the heat shield?
L150[16:27:14] <FLHerne> No
L151[16:27:35] <FLHerne> That was the stupid Reddit 'fact'
L152[16:28:10] <Althego> well doesnt matter, the dragon is just a small intermediate step
L153[16:28:26] <FLHerne> Would have set a good precedent though
L154[16:28:58] <FLHerne> Of course, the incident where the retropropulsion system exploded and destroyed a capsule might show they had a point :p
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L156[16:33:19] <Althego> no, because that is still the escape system
L157[16:34:36] <FLHerne> But the fix was just to add a burst disk
L158[16:34:46] <Althego> replacing a valve
L159[16:35:14] <FLHerne> Which prevents using it as a reusable retropropulsion system, and probably would have been there already if it wasn't designed as one
L160[16:35:24] <FLHerne> In addition to, surely
L161[16:36:06] <Althego> bbut the result was still the splashdown
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L163[16:36:25] <FLHerne> ?
L164[16:36:44] <Althego> not LANDing
L165[16:38:34] <FLHerne> Retropropulsion would have been a landing
L166[17:10:07] <JVFoxy> these new kerbal faces are getting kinda creepy... https://i.redd.it/vk7tg8rmzde31.jpg
L167[17:11:32] <Althego> hehehe
L168[17:11:47] <Althego> hullo, it's scott kerman here :)
L169[17:13:02] <JVFoxy> I dont' know which is worse.. https://imgur.com/PZgBAyy
L170[17:13:19] <Althego> hehe
L171[17:13:28] <JVFoxy> originally was looking for aa aaa aaaa memes, but thought I'd see if there was any kerbal ones
L172[17:14:21] <JVFoxy> of course,, my first mistake? accidentally posting to wrong channel. >.< ya.. either I lay down for a bit more or get some go juice soon
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L174[17:28:06] <Judge_Dedd> The reason SpaceX didn't push ahead with powered landings was NASA, primarily, but also because they wanted do devote R&D resources to Starship/Superheavy
L175[17:28:28] <Althego> not the first thing they scrapped, not the last
L176[17:28:44] <Althego> at least the starship is simply too big for such tricks
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L179[17:39:25] <Judge_Dedd> Starship is also not reliant on NASA
L180[17:40:26] <Judge_Dedd> And since NASA are interested in using it for future Moon missions, propulsive landing is a must, anyway
L181[17:40:48] <Althego> the moon starship is possibly a different design
L182[17:40:58] <Althego> without heatshield and special landing engines
L183[17:41:26] <Althego> i am afraid they are going to fall into a trap with that just as with falcon heacy. oh we just strap these boosters togeteher and we are go. it wasnt that simple
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L190[18:51:51] <Guest90476> I haven't been able to find the Zvezda module after installing ROCapsules and ROEngines, any ideas why?
L191[18:52:06] <Guest90476> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/625444239878389790/798261939758170193/Kerbal_Space_Program_11.01.2021_19_46_00.png?width=1202&height=676
L192[19:04:34] <Judge_Dedd> Hello Guest90476
L193[19:04:53] <Judge_Dedd> Hmm
L194[19:05:32] <Judge_Dedd> I'm really sorry but I'm not the best one to ask about modding issues. Hopefully someone more knowledgeable than me will see your question soon :)
L195[19:06:03] <Althego> yes, i dont know much either. i would try to uninstall mods until it comes back
L196[19:06:50] <Judge_Dedd> That is generally the usual way... try to find out which mod is causing the issue. This is Realism Overhaul, right?
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L198[19:09:22] <Judge_Dedd> Guest90476, Realism Overhaul actually has a dedicated IRC channel, if you're interested - type /join #RO
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L201[19:22:50] <Guest80090> I believe the European space station has a lot of Nitrogen deliverys
L202[19:23:52] <Guest80090> The zero gravity semi conductor lab has a lot of drops into earth space!!
L203[19:24:25] <Guest80090> I’m wondering who picks up in Alaska
L204[19:25:01] <Guest80090> sorry
L205[19:25:07] <Guest80090> North Pole
L206[19:27:10] <Guest80090> Only joking they produce there own Nitrogen
L207[19:28:05] <Guest80090> looking at meteorological data
L208[19:28:48] <Guest80090> Data match with space x
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L210[19:32:46] <darsie> They do? From what? Pee?
L211[19:34:01] <FLHerne> ...what European space station?
L212[19:34:02] <Althego> european space station?
L213[19:34:07] <FLHerne> jinx
L214[19:34:26] <Althego> anyway i havent understood a single sentence from that
L215[19:35:26] <Judge_Dedd> Well, nitrogen is a thing. This we can all agree on.
L216[19:35:52] <Althego> how do you produce nitrogen? through fusion?
L217[19:36:28] <darsie> Suns do.
L218[19:36:31] <darsie> Stars*
L219[19:36:50] <Althego> did humans ever produced nitrogen?
L220[19:36:56] <darsie> By fusion?
L221[19:37:00] <darsie> or so?
L222[19:37:01] <Althego> or any way
L223[19:37:11] <Judge_Dedd> Google tells me that the encyclopaedia Britannica says that nitrogen can be produced by burning hydrocarbons in air and separating the CO2 and water from residual nitrogen.
L224[19:37:17] <Althego> i can imagine other wys, by splitting atoms
L225[19:37:29] <darsie> Probably with some particle accelerators.
L226[19:37:38] <Judge_Dedd> So that's more like refining it than producing it
L227[19:37:47] <Althego> yes, that is not producing it
L228[19:38:03] <Judge_Dedd> Or you can make nitrogen by heating barium azide, apparently.
L229[19:38:09] <raptop> I mean, given the large amount of nitrogen in the air, there's no need to mess around with nuclear processes. fractional distillation of air is sufficient
L230[19:38:21] <raptop> Or is something like producing ammonia, nitrates, etc meant?
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L232[19:39:26] <Judge_Dedd> I guess we shall never know
L233[19:39:31] <Althego> hehe
L234[19:39:31] <darsie> 0.8% N in urine.
L235[19:39:42] <Althego> that is not too bad
L236[19:39:52] <Althego> oh btw, what is the urinte tank level
L237[19:39:53] <darsie> And we're electrolyzing the water to get O2.
L238[19:40:19] <darsie> I guess we'l purify the water prior to electrolysis.
L239[19:43:03] <Judge_Dedd> See this is what I love about this community. Someone attempts to troll (maybe) and we turn it into a serious conversation about space travel.
L240[19:43:10] <Judge_Dedd> Never change, KSP community
L241[19:44:38] <darsie> Could be worth it to make N2 and only bring up LOX.
L242[19:44:50] <Althego> no urinte tank level
L243[19:45:00] <Althego> why cant i write it correctly
L244[19:45:06] <Althego> probably because the t in the tank
L245[19:45:18] <darsie> Then again, we don't really use up N2, so we need to replenish only a little.
L246[19:45:28] <Althego> you do use up n2, by leaking
L247[19:45:35] <darsie> Leaks?
L248[19:45:41] <Althego> no perfect seal
L249[19:45:46] <Althego> the iss always leaks a bit
L250[19:45:53] <darsie> Ok, but I guess this is small.
L251[19:46:19] <darsie> And we do grow plants. There are probably a few nitrogen fixating bacteria.
L252[19:58:41] <packbart> Nitrogen is dangerous when forced into lockdown. It wants to roam the world
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L254[20:03:09] <Mat2ch> Althego: Oh no. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xujqf5EjimI :D
L255[20:03:23] <raptop> fixing nitrogen implies that nitrogen is broken
L256[20:03:34] <raptop> n2 op, pls nerf
L257[20:07:05] <Althego> no, from bottles
L258[20:07:08] <Althego> why
L259[20:07:53] <Althego> fixing also can imply nitrogen is procreating :)
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L261[20:09:24] <Mat2ch> the stitching now looks creepy enough for the mighty fingers...
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L263[20:21:06] <Mat2ch> Oh no, in Boca Chica a concrete truck fell over!
L264[20:23:01] <Althego> i cant see it
L265[20:23:32] <Althego> meanwhile on nsf, pelicans on boat
L266[20:24:06] <Mat2ch> I can't see it neither, it was just in the quickinfo box
L267[20:24:14] <Mat2ch> and boat beached on the beach
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L270[21:34:29] <darsie> .
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