OCLogs: 2020-12-30.log

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L9[01:39:53] <Izaya> Is there a trick to placing radially attached parts on top of stacking ones?

L10[01:40:56] <raptop> like pressing alt to turn on node attachement mode, or?

L11[01:42:51] <Izaya> does that work with nodeless parts?

L12[01:54:55] <raptop> hrm, that wouldn't

L13[01:55:06] <raptop> something with holding shift or changing the snaps?

L14[01:55:53] <Izaya> present strategy is just to eyeball it until it rotates if I move it any further from the edge

L15[01:56:26] <Izaya> still off centre enough to throw off thrust though x_x

L16[02:26:43] <raptop> aah

L17[02:26:53] <raptop> I guess there are those location tools

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L67[13:17:20] <Mat2ch> Static fire test today? Who wants to bet? ;)

L68[13:19:31] <Althego> i dont think so

L69[13:19:48] <Althego> seems to be unlikely, even for spacex

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L71[13:30:53] <Mat2ch> :(

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L84[17:07:40] <FLHerne> @elonmusk wrote: @ErcXspace We’re going to try to catch the Super Heavy Booster with the launch tower arm, using the grid fins to take the load https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1344327757916868608

L85[17:07:46] <FLHerne> what.

L86[17:08:06] <Althego> he mentioned a catcher mechanism once

L87[17:08:17] <Althego> because then you can get rid of the kanding legs

L88[17:08:20] <Althego> lot of weight

L89[17:08:32] <Althego> and also a really hard engineering problem

L90[17:08:41] <Althego> no it was replaced by an other really hard enginering problem

L91[17:08:46] <Althego> but less weight on the rocket

L92[17:09:10] <FLHerne> But then you're putting the entire weight of the booster, multiplied by the dynamic forces, through load paths that don't exist otherwise

L93[17:09:27] <FLHerne> The rocket already has to stand up when supported from the base

L94[17:09:31] <Althego> the grid fin is a new info

L95[17:09:43] <Althego> i thought they might try to hold it by the trust puck

L96[17:10:25] <Althego> the grid fins obviously can take some forces, but the whole weight o a super heavy booster? that alone needs a separate reinforcement

L97[17:10:45] <Mat2ch> It sounds crazy

L98[17:10:46] <Mat2ch> but could work

L99[17:11:04] <Mat2ch> FLHerne: and the landing legs are in addition to a structure that can hold itself up

L100[17:11:13] <Mat2ch> you can see that on starship very well

L101[17:11:36] <Mat2ch> Althego: also you need some catching thing, that closes around the falling booster

L102[17:11:42] <Mat2ch> or you have to aim very very carefully

L103[17:11:49] <darsie> Catch SH with a helicopter.

L104[17:11:57] <Mat2ch> and if it ever fails, you need a new launch tower

L105[17:12:13] <Althego> yes, the aim is really problematic, especially with something this big

L106[17:12:16] <Althego> but maybe it helps

L107[17:12:23] <Althego> less thrust on the engines

L108[17:12:26] <Althego> it could maube almost hover

L109[17:12:36] <Althego> a helicopter?

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L111[17:12:49] <darsie> Like electron.

L112[17:12:49] <Althego> i dont think thre exist a plane that could take it, aside from the an 225

L113[17:13:12] <darsie> Use 20 helicopters :)

L114[17:13:16] <Althego> think of it, the starship alone is over 100 t

L115[17:13:27] <Althego> i guess the booster will be above 200

L116[17:14:04] <Althego> ok, the masses are going to change, because currently they are made of the same thickness plate

L117[17:14:45] <darsie> Upper tanks will become lighter?

L118[17:15:15] <darsie> part*

L119[17:15:44] <Althego> i am not sure it means the starship will use thinner, or the thivkness would change according to calculated loads, or both

L120[17:17:20] <darsie> Will they have emergency repair kits in case a micrometeorid punches a hole in the hull or a window?

L121[17:17:27] <Althego> hehe

L122[17:17:35] <Althego> probably

L123[17:17:48] <Althego> for the pressurized parts

L124[17:17:57] <darsie> Or sections with air locks?

L125[17:17:59] <Althego> or rather human parts

L126[17:18:12] <Althego> we know nothing of the internals

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L138[18:34:57] <Althego> elon is tweeting about the legless booster

L139[18:38:35] <sandbox_> drunk booster?

L140[18:39:25] <Althego> what shall we do with the drunken booster

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L142[18:39:33] <Althego> early in the morning

L143[18:39:41] <Althego> it is not even running on alcohol

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L146[18:52:57] <raptop> metro last light giveaway on gog (and of course epic is continuing to do that 1 game/day thing)

L147[19:02:24] <umaxtu> let me know if anyone wants to play some TL2

L148[19:03:37] <umaxtu> thats what epic is giving away today

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L177[23:30:34] <Neal> uhhhhhh the graphics resolution option doesn't work

L178[23:30:43] <Neal> I set it to 1080p... set apply... works for a second

L179[23:31:01] <Neal> when I load a save and start playing it goes back to 4k

L180[23:54:00] * raptop throws a dart at a file getting set to read only or something