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L12[05:14:32] <Wanwood> sup
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L22[07:41:04] <Althego> hehe i just found this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7h7Mfe8BDw
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L26[07:56:34] <Althego> i got the nanowar cd
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L28[07:59:34] <Althego> and the argon one cases and 2 gloryhammers. the 3rd one is in a different package sadly
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L31[08:56:08] <Althego> short outage on kerbot because of the replacement of the pi case
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L34[09:05:53] <Mat2ch> We have a bot in here? :P
L35[09:11:09] <Althego> at least 3
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L37[09:12:08] <Althego> mod9000, lunchbot and kerbot
L38[09:12:13] * darsie is a bot.
L39[09:14:57] <Althego> eh i dint check the uptime
L40[09:15:03] <Althego> must have been around a year
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L66[13:23:19] <JVFoxy> just doing some catching up. I see SN9 is righted again..
L67[13:24:14] <Althego> meanwhile elon is just posting memes
L68[13:25:32] <JVFoxy> be thankful it was sitting in the high bay, else we'd be down a ship
L69[13:25:45] <Althego> that may be so liek this too
L70[13:26:05] <Althego> its pressure endurance may be alrady compromised
L71[13:26:13] <JVFoxy> either ship was pretty light, or those bay walls can take some strain. Aren't those starships at least 100t empty?
L72[13:26:58] <JVFoxy> lol.. never mind SN8 pancaking on the pad, SN9 is going to be the one that sets them back for a bit
L73[13:27:33] <Althego> they are mostly empty space
L74[13:27:41] <Althego> so quite light, relatively speaking
L75[13:28:23] <JVFoxy> I've no idea the scale of weight
L76[13:28:47] <Althego> and that angle it wasnt moving too fast
L77[13:28:48] <JVFoxy> considering the size of cranes they have to use, I'm guessing quite a bit
L78[13:29:20] <JVFoxy> well no, a slight lean, would only impart some stress, not the full weight, but still
L79[13:29:39] <Althego> i think the 100 t is around its real weight
L80[13:31:48] <JVFoxy> if going by US tons.. 200000 lbs. Space shuttle orbiter, empty was only 165000
L81[13:32:36] <Althego> wsnt made of steel and didt have big tanks in it
L82[13:33:21] <JVFoxy> more for a sense of scale for me
L83[13:33:28] <FLHerne> Final target was 120t, Mk1 was >200t
L84[13:33:43] <FLHerne> So I guess they're somewhere between those figures
L85[13:34:12] <FLHerne> Hm, but the 120t presumably includes tiles, fairing mechanism etc.
L86[13:34:25] <FLHerne> So SNx could conceivably be bit lighter
L87[13:34:28] <JVFoxy> they said Sn9 wasn't fully fueled. If it was, would it still get off the stand at launch or is that what the booster section will be fore?
L88[13:34:48] <Althego> sn9 was never fueled
L89[13:34:53] <Althego> sn8 was not fully fueled
L90[13:35:10] <JVFoxy> ya sorry meant 8... lol, numbers game
L91[13:35:22] <Althego> and based on its acceleration on launch it had as much as it could without just sitting there on the launch pad kerbal style
L92[13:35:34] <FLHerne> No, TWR on the sea-level engines would be <1
L93[13:35:39] <JVFoxy> I recall someone saying the stream, no cargo, just fuel, Starship could theoretically reach orbit, but no way coming back down
L94[13:36:48] <JVFoxy> Ya, I thought 8 lifted off slower than I had expected it would
L95[13:36:49] <FLHerne> That said, there was a video of a vac engine firing on the test stand (with some visible flow separation), so they might be able to fire them for a bit in-atmosphere
L96[13:37:20] <Althego> but it didnt even have those
L97[13:37:48] <FLHerne> Right
L98[13:38:08] <FLHerne> But if you did want to launch a fully-fuelled ship, it might be possible with them fitted
L99[13:38:45] <JVFoxy> someone joked about recycling SN8 into a new cyber truck
L100[13:39:25] <JVFoxy> or do something with the metal
L101[13:40:59] <JVFoxy> think someone mentioned they should save the nose cone, for historical reasons
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L104[13:45:27] <Althego> elon even replied to that, so they might just do it
L105[13:50:18] <Mat2ch> I need upates on SN9 fast :P
L106[13:50:51] <Althego> not happening
L107[13:51:07] <Mat2ch> It's still held in place by the crane
L108[13:51:25] <Mat2ch> I wonder where the operator went. Getting a hot coffee?
L109[13:52:51] <Mat2ch> and it's crazy how that camera shakes
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L113[14:06:41] <JVFoxy> Althego: he replied huh? Sorry for not being on twitter myself, but what was the reply if I can ask?
L114[14:07:08] <FLHerne> JVFoxy: 'yes'
L115[14:08:09] <JVFoxy> ah well, could just be confirming the idea, not saying they would go with it. Just have to wait and see
L116[14:10:15] <Althego> there is a whole falcon 9 booster used as a monument, so ccomparing a nose cone, it is quite small
L117[14:10:34] <FLHerne> There's already the Mk1-flaps restaurant
L118[14:10:57] <FLHerne> Maybe the nosecone can go beside it
L119[14:14:52] <Althego> nosecone café
L120[14:14:58] <JVFoxy> flaps restaurant ... uh ok?
L121[14:15:08] <Althego> havent you seen it?
L122[14:15:20] <Althego> that is the roof of a kind of outside diner or something
L123[14:16:19] <JVFoxy> lol https://www.tesmanian.com/blogs/tesmanian-blog/starship-factory
L124[14:18:26] <JVFoxy> anyways.. coffee run
L125[14:19:32] <JVFoxy> woulda sooner but right after feeding friend's cat, its stomach decided food belonged on the floor instead >_<
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L127[14:31:36] <Althego> astra rocket again. maybe. no stream
L128[14:45:43] <Althego> meanwhile at the action lab: let's eat fried water
L129[14:50:03] <JVFoxy> fried with HHO?
L130[14:51:01] <JVFoxy> wait.. what? http://thescienceexplorer.com/technology/chef-invents-deep-fried-water
L131[14:51:13] <Althego> with what you would expect, flour, eggs, breadcrumbs
L132[14:51:50] <Althego> pretty much looked like this
L133[14:52:22] <JVFoxy> eat... well more slurp..
L134[15:00:12] <Mat2ch> hrm, you could use flavored water
L135[15:00:48] <Mat2ch> then it would taste like something at least
L136[15:00:55] <Mat2ch> but it reminds me of bubble tea
L137[15:01:02] <Mat2ch> which I never had in my life
L138[15:01:05] <Mat2ch> :P
L139[15:01:07] <Althego> hrhr
L140[15:01:11] <Althego> i heard about it
L141[15:01:43] <Mat2ch> Bubble Tea, I mean, if I wanna drink chemicals, there are some big companies that would be glad to get rid of some...
L142[15:02:08] <Althego> you always drink chemicals
L143[15:03:06] <Mat2ch> Wait, don't tell me my dihydrogenmonoxide is a chemical?!
L144[15:03:45] <JVFoxy> we all nothing but mixing chemicles
L145[15:08:29] <Mat2ch> nooooooo
L146[15:08:36] <Mat2ch> my world, it is crumbeling!
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L149[15:08:57] <Mat2ch> If you tell me now that radiation isn't per se dangerous I wont know what to do anymore!
L150[15:12:48] <packbart> get the ol' Radonizer out and make yourself some power water
L151[15:14:04] <Mat2ch> No, I go on a
L152[15:14:05] <Mat2ch> !mission
L153[15:14:06] <LunchBot> Mat2ch: You write a bot that could pass the turing test, configure it to talk trollishly about KSP and unleash it on #KSPOfficial. Your antimatter reacts far more quickly than expect and soon the reactors are empty.
L154[15:14:13] <Althego> there is no end to "special" water scams. pi water, penta water, etc
L155[15:14:26] <Mat2ch> Oxygen Water!
L156[15:14:34] <Mat2ch> Because the stomach has to breath, too!
L157[15:14:54] <Mat2ch> I should stop trolling and go back to work.
L158[15:16:08] <JVFoxy> why? Nothing really going on. I could use the company :(
L159[15:17:28] <Mat2ch> https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1337805445763837952 so that's why they went for tiles.
L160[15:17:35] <Mat2ch> Not the military. Boring!
L161[15:17:49] <Mat2ch> JVFoxy: because I need the money. I get payed by the hour
L162[15:17:59] <Mat2ch> also that bug... there's one bug that's evading me
L163[15:18:01] <Mat2ch> I hate it.
L164[15:18:02] <Althego> yes, the transpiration *ccoking*
L165[15:18:04] <Mat2ch> I wanna catch it
L166[15:18:22] <Mat2ch> well, it's cooking of a spacecraft ;)
L167[15:18:37] <Althego> one negative thing in the crash is we dont know what happened to the tiles
L168[15:18:56] <Althego> i remember the tiles didnt like the smaller hops
L169[15:19:19] <Althego> and i feel that one week point in the whole thing is the tiles
L170[15:20:38] <JVFoxy> Mat2ch its cool.. hopefully work isn't too much a pain in the neck for ya
L171[15:21:36] <JVFoxy> wait.. cooking, spacecraft. What became of that 0gee cooking oven that went up a while back?
L172[15:21:50] <Mat2ch> It cooked things!
L173[15:22:24] <Mat2ch> JVFoxy: it's paying my bills. And I'm happy that I can pay my bills right now myself and don't have to rely on unemployment insurance money
L174[15:28:30] <JVFoxy> I've been doing temp work, which has me going into a lot of construction projects. Pay really sucks, some sites I hated going to because they push their workers so hard. :\
L175[15:29:06] <JVFoxy> I had meant to go back part time but then covid was a bigger concern so...
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L177[15:37:39] <Mat2ch> JVFoxy: where are you from?
L178[15:40:02] <JVFoxy> west coast Canada
L179[15:42:29] <Mat2ch> Well, not the US at least...
L180[15:42:39] <Mat2ch> is the job situation that bad there?
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L182[16:03:51] <Azander> :/
L183[16:10:12] <JVFoxy> its ok.. I guess?
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L186[16:17:22] <JVFoxy> ... was I talk'n to someone here? sudden disconnect threw things off
L187[16:17:46] <FLHerne> JVFoxy: You were talking to Mat2ch
L188[16:18:02] <FLHerne> Also, get a real client :p
L189[16:18:48] <Mat2ch> :D
L190[16:19:13] <Mat2ch> FLHerne: at least be so kind and throw JVFoxy a few links :)
L191[16:19:36] <FLHerne> logs
L192[16:19:45] <FLHerne> No logs?
L193[16:19:53] <flayer> i just dropped off some logs
L194[16:20:20] <JVFoxy> web based, at a friend's...
L195[16:20:38] <FLHerne> channel logged
L196[16:20:39] <Mod9000> I keep channel logs here: bitcoinshell.mooo.com/users/deddly/?C=M;O=D
L197[16:21:01] <JVFoxy> it doesn't normally disconnect on me, though it was annoying things decided to stop working suddenly while I was in middle of write up
L198[16:21:09] <flayer> is that 'bitcoin shell' or 'bitcoins hell' ?
L199[16:21:36] <JVFoxy> more like 'hell' to me.. not loading
L200[16:23:46] <JVFoxy> anyways.. was going to say, friend came over from Ireland, but they required them to get a high position type job, but never found anything. Ended up going back early due to family matters. (which ended up being her freaking out to get him to come back home sooner)
L201[16:25:11] <FLHerne> Deddly: Your log thingy is broken?
L202[16:25:24] <Althego> the log works, the site is broken
L203[16:25:42] <Deddly> Yeah the host site is has apparently been constantly hit by a DDOS attack
L204[16:25:48] <JVFoxy> speaking of broken, thankfully the issue with Google didn't last too long this morning.
L205[16:26:06] <Althego> with some work i could probably set up mine to work in a similar way
L206[16:27:52] <JVFoxy> if I was more awake, I probably would have taken a moment to check which channel I was in during the conversation.
L207[16:28:21] <Althego> you were talking here, but we dont know if we were talking elsewhere too :)
L208[16:28:27] <Althego> you
L209[16:28:31] <Althego> not we
L210[16:28:40] <flayer> either way
L211[16:28:53] <flayer> it's probably best if you avoid alphabet inc
L212[16:30:09] <JVFoxy> talk'n about job stuff earlier right? Maybe that'll make it easier
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L214[16:33:07] <JVFoxy> eh well
L215[16:33:40] <Mat2ch> yeah
L216[16:34:30] <Mat2ch> well, I'm self employed and that makes things harder. Being employed in Germany can be very relaxing if you can stand the modern company culture
L217[16:35:15] <Mat2ch> it's hard to get layed off. You really have to try...
L218[16:37:39] <JVFoxy> ah.. Germany
L219[16:38:41] <JVFoxy> Had hoped to be doing my own thing but .. life never went hte way I wanted.
L220[16:39:05] <Althego> the german company culture was one big reason i left the simulation business
L221[16:41:43] <Mat2ch> Althego: don't you like the unfunny people on the christmas party?
L222[16:41:46] <Mat2ch> :D
L223[16:41:52] <Mat2ch> *at
L224[16:42:41] <Mat2ch> and the "I want my employees to work in my office building, because then I know that they are working" whilst the employees are watching youtube videos all day in the office...
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L227[16:50:49] <FLHerne> ;outcome add There are unforeseen effects.
L228[16:50:49] <LunchBot> FLHerne: Added outcome: There are unforeseen effects.
L229[17:10:00] <Althego> the internet got me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrTixCg8m2M
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L239[19:39:10] <Althego> as expected no astra launch now, maybe tomorrow
L240[19:39:48] <Althego> but somehow there was a video for the angara a5 launch
L241[19:40:02] <Althego> looks very kerbal because of the huge side boosters
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L256[22:43:37] <Vlakater> Hi
L257[22:43:57] <Vlakater> Hi I need help please.. I need to recolour a part added to Airplane plus mod... Its the realistic version engine from the tempest engine from Airplane plus... The Wright 3350 26w cyclone used on the b-29 superfortress. Think it was the config from AJE mod that created it as copy of the tempest 
L258[22:43:57] <Vlakater> I'm not sure but please tell me how to create the config file to apply Turd colours... I am struggling to find where the part file is or not sure help would be appreciated thanks 
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L261[22:52:58] <Vlakater> Hi I need help please.. I need to recolour a part added to Airplane plus mod... Its the realistic version engine from the tempest engine from Airplane plus... The Wright 3350 26w cyclone used on the b-29 superfortress. Think it was the config from AJE mod that created it as copy of the tempest 
L262[22:52:58] <Vlakater> I'm not sure but please tell me how to create the config file to apply Turd colours... I am struggling to find where the part file is or not sure help would be appreciated thanks 
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L265[22:56:51] <Vlakater> Hi I need help please.. I need to recolour a part added to Airplane plus mod... Its the realistic version engine from the tempest engine from Airplane plus... The Wright 3350 26w cyclone used on the b-29 superfortress. Think it was the config from AJE mod that created it as copy of the tempest 
L266[22:56:51] <Vlakater> I'm not sure but please tell me how to create the config file to apply Turd colours... I am struggling to find where the part file is or not sure help would be appreciated thanks 
L267[22:57:42] <Vlakater> Is there a app I can download for this chat site?
L268[22:58:41] <FLHerne> Vlakater: Please don't repeat yourself like that
L269[22:58:50] <FLHerne> Vlakater: And yes, it's an IRC channel
L270[22:58:57] <FLHerne> #KSPOfficial on irc.esper.net
L271[22:59:30] <FLHerne> HexChat is probably the best Windows IRC client; I think Konversation is better on Linux but that usually starts arguments :p
L272[22:59:43] <FLHerne> (and I'm afraid I know nothing about part recolouring)
L273[22:59:45] <Vlakater> Sorry when I just multitasked it through me offline so didn't know the message was still on here
L274[23:00:16] <Vlakater> I am on android
L275[23:00:33] <FLHerne> Oh, that makes sense
L276[23:00:55] <Vlakater> Thanks for the response
L277[23:00:59] <FLHerne> (the web thingy does work in the background in a normal browser, but Android tends to freeze background apps)
L278[23:01:04] <FLHerne> Try 'Revolution IRC'
L279[23:01:07] <FLHerne> It's pretty good
L280[23:01:20] <Vlakater> Thanks will do
L281[23:01:40] <Vlakater> So how do I join here when in the app?
L282[23:02:13] <FLHerne> One moment, let me find my phone :p
L283[23:03:11] <FLHerne> hamburger menu -> Manage Servers -> (+)
L284[23:03:17] <Vlakater> I have discord just want to make a friend with a good modder or someone who knows allot about ksp 😭😂🤣 the struggle is real
L285[23:04:11] <Vlakater> Thanks i wil do the swap in a bit
L286[23:04:14] <FLHerne> Input `irc.esper.net` for "Server address", add `#KSPOfficial` to "Auto-join channels"
L287[23:04:32] <FLHerne> Choose a nickname and a readable name for the server
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L290[23:08:38] <Vlakater> Wow it worked thanks
L291[23:09:07] <FLHerne> yay
L292[23:10:09] <FLHerne> Other active channels on here are #SpaceX, #minecraft and #factorio
L293[23:10:17] <FLHerne> There's also #lobby but it sucks
L294[23:10:45] <Vlakater> Its strange how some parts in ksp the config defers.. Like I have learned 🙄
L295[23:10:50] <Vlakater> Thanks
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L297[23:11:46] <Vlakater> Lol I'm a factorio fanatic but now I'm on ksp all the time my other games can go.
L298[23:13:14] <Vlakater> I'm working on a big project called "Total Recall". In short its tge scaling of real crafts in the game to be like craft in real life
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L300[23:17:49] <Vlakater> So going to bed its 01:17 in South Africa where I live cheers
L301[23:18:22] <FLHerne> Only 23:17 here :p
L302[23:18:26] <FLHerne> Goodnight
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