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L16[05:03:25] <Althego> what, nrol-101 moved again
L17[05:07:02] <raptop> Has it diminished into the west yet?
L18[05:11:16] <Althego> the launch date
L19[05:13:58] <raptop> that too
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L23[06:43:55] <minas_tirith> raptop, why are eldritch things so exceptionally creepy?
L24[06:43:59] <minas_tirith> I mean even by horror standards
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L26[07:08:31] <raptop> something something fear of the unknown something worst case scenarioes
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L32[08:54:47] <Mat2ch> SpaceX got me lost with Starship...
L33[08:55:23] <Mat2ch> SN8 is on the launch pad, SN9 in High Bay, probably getting a nose cone before testing, SN10 is almost done, SN11 started, SN12 started as well...
L34[08:55:34] <Mat2ch> And SN5 and SN6 just sitting around and watching
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L36[08:56:11] <Mat2ch> They really need to be a lot more unsuccesful with their stuff to get rid of it! ;)
L37[08:56:33] <Mat2ch> *unsuccessful
L38[09:01:34] <Althego> hehe
L39[09:01:38] <Althego> they were
L40[09:01:59] <Althego> the first few ones kept exploding
L41[09:04:35] <Mat2ch> Yep, and some in glorious fireballs!
L42[09:05:09] <Althego> hehe. the gut was commenting. that is not methane, is it? because it would be bad
L43[09:05:17] <Althego> next moment a huge fireball
L44[09:29:29] <JVFoxy> ... ok whats exploding now? Besides guts.
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L47[09:35:32] <Althego> guy, was a typo
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L51[09:52:36] <JVFoxy> commenting guts.. lol, sorry. Thought something you ate was complaining down there.
L52[09:52:59] <JVFoxy> guessing another test was done recently?
L53[09:53:25] <packbart> JVFoxy: the explosion was SN4, some 5 months ago
L54[09:54:00] <packbart> ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZYPnxfjoCY )
L55[09:54:30] <JVFoxy> ya, was figuring pressure test of some sort. I've been out of loop for a while now.
L56[10:00:22] <JVFoxy> ok so just a pressure test burst.. nothing expected till later this month, SN9
L57[10:00:33] <JVFoxy> er.. I mean SN8
L58[10:09:18] <Althego> we are expecting a flight next week
L59[10:10:17] <Althego> and i thought they will be ready in 2 weeks, and even then my estimation was larger than other people's. and now they are going to the third
L60[10:12:35] <Althego> https://youtu.be/7YaFsUWgN3s?t=5084
L61[10:12:36] <Althego> here
L62[10:12:49] <Althego> if it was methane it would be igniting at the flare, correct?
L63[10:12:54] <Althego> next second it exploded
L64[10:13:14] <Althego> (not because of the flare)
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L71[13:16:49] <Mat2ch> There is a road closure scheduled for today
L72[13:16:56] <Mat2ch> so maybe another static fire test with all engines?
L73[13:20:46] <Althego> yes that starts in the evening
L74[13:22:11] <Althego> so as usual probably the climax is after midnigh
L75[13:29:33] <Mat2ch> It would be a weird choice to fly today.
L76[13:30:05] <Mat2ch> SpaceX didn't talk much about their flight tests before. I doubt it, but they're crazy enough to just fly
L77[13:30:10] <Althego> elon promised a live stream
L78[13:30:23] <Althego> they know that they are watched by 3 cameras
L79[13:30:34] <Althego> or rather 3 organizations on a regular basis
L80[13:30:44] <Althego> so it is pointless to hide it
L81[13:30:47] <Mat2ch> and SpaceX has enough cams out there to do a live stream
L82[13:30:55] <Mat2ch> so it would be easy to just set one up
L83[13:30:56] <Althego> anyway, if there is a live stream there would be a post about that
L84[13:31:14] <Mat2ch> An hour before the event maybe
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L86[13:41:51] <Althego> https://www.reddit.com/r/KerbalSpaceProgram/comments/jkvqwd/this_is_major_tom_to_ground_control/
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L93[15:22:46] <Claas2008> can you make a rocket that automatically points at a target? (the target can't be a building or a object)
L94[15:23:04] <packbart> yes
L95[15:23:27] <packbart> I don't know what exactly you mean by it but I can see several solutions
L96[15:23:38] <packbart> might need mods
L97[15:23:51] <darsie> Claas2008: There are radar or heat seeking missiles.
L98[15:24:10] <Claas2008> no mods plz
L99[15:24:12] <darsie> Hmm, they point at objects, though.
L100[15:24:38] <packbart> the use SAS "to target" and stay within the active bubble
L101[15:24:42] <darsie> What is a target that's not an object?
L102[15:25:07] <Claas2008> i tried a kerbnet waypoint, but you can't sellect it as a target
L103[15:25:34] <Althego> it is an interesting question what the target object is
L104[15:25:38] <darsie> You can activate navigation and then select attitude hold at target.
L105[15:25:46] <packbart> what are you trying to achieve?
L106[15:25:50] <darsie> I think. Maybe not.
L107[15:26:01] <packbart> Althego: there are several types of different targets in KSP :/
L108[15:26:14] <Althego> you can target flags or other spacecraft
L109[15:26:25] <packbart> and waypoints are another thing altogether, I think
L110[15:26:31] <Claas2008> no objects, just a random place that you make your target
L111[15:26:45] <Althego> stock ksp cant do that
L112[15:26:51] <Claas2008> like the top of a mounten
L113[15:26:53] <Althego> but if you have something there, you can target that
L114[15:27:04] <Althego> like a flag for example
L115[15:27:13] <packbart> KSP can target positions. But I'd use MechJeb to do that. don't know of how to do it in stock
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L121[16:14:40] <Althego> road closed
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L123[16:23:21] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I-p8vjQ95s
L124[16:23:25] <Althego> unrelated
L125[16:28:33] <Mat2ch> LabPadre is waiting for another static fire, too. So it seems it's going to be rather boring ;)
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L128[16:33:09] <Althego> will the 15 km fligh happen from the same stand?
L129[16:33:38] <Althego> and where is the landing target
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L135[17:05:17] <umaxtu> why wouldn'
L136[17:05:19] <umaxtu> it?
L137[17:08:07] <Althego> you mean the launch? it is a test stand. but the small hops happened from similar ones, but with one engine only
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L140[17:14:40] <Mat2ch> Althego: why shouldn't they launch from the test stand?
L141[17:14:51] <Mat2ch> And the landing target is where it always was.
L142[17:14:56] <Mat2ch> This will be proper fun :D
L143[17:15:04] <Mat2ch> To see it crashing down near all the good stuff
L144[17:15:05] <Mat2ch> ;)
L145[17:15:13] <Althego> yes that is my problem with the landing
L146[17:15:28] <Althego> because of that flip in the end it can pick up large horizontal speed
L147[17:15:58] <Althego> and the stand, as i said it is a test stand, if it can withstand the 3 raptors blasting it, good
L148[17:16:09] <Althego> or maybe they dont care, it is just some steel beams and pipes
L149[17:17:16] <Mat2ch> It's not just some steel beams, there's the whole tanking/detanking section there and that can be shielded, when a Starship lifts off
L150[17:18:22] <Mat2ch> and the flip in the end wouldn't be very critical, if the first flips wouldn't need raptor support...
L151[17:18:46] <Mat2ch> but you can flip at 1 km already and then overshoot and use the raptors to stop it from overshooting
L152[17:18:52] <Mat2ch> just as they're doing it with the F9
L153[17:24:04] <Mat2ch> oh, Rafael talks about a planned two-engine static fire
L154[17:24:09] <Mat2ch> https://twitter.com/fael097/status/1326934346771607553
L155[17:27:20] <Althego> hehe this is a side view
L156[17:27:39] <Althego> those header tanks looks so small
L157[17:30:07] <Mat2ch> and are probably bigger than my appartment...
L158[17:30:19] <Althego> hehe
L159[17:30:29] <Althego> but how long can they supply fuel? maybe 10 seconds?
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L161[17:31:27] <FLHerne> Mat2ch: Only if it's a very small apartment https://www.techgenyz.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/starship-orbital-vehicle-sn1.jpg
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L164[17:43:51] <Mat2ch> FLHerne: ok, mine is bigger.
L165[17:44:00] <Mat2ch> My tank, obviously.
L166[17:44:21] <Althego> you live in a tank?
L167[17:44:36] <FLHerne> On the Internet, no-one can tell you're a goldfish
L168[17:44:42] <Althego> hehe
L169[17:45:46] <Althego> like the dolphin from johnny mnemonic
L170[17:46:02] <Mat2ch> Althego: maybe.
L171[17:46:04] <Mat2ch> ;)
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L174[18:35:05] <Mat2ch> Oh, KSP 1.11 is released?
L175[18:35:26] <Mat2ch> And we get... work lamps? :D
L176[18:35:43] <Althego> what, now?
L177[18:36:28] <Althego> navigation lights!
L178[18:36:31] <Althego> i always wanted these
L179[18:36:36] <Althego> i hope they blink
L180[18:36:46] <Althego> they could be useful too
L181[18:36:54] <Althego> because docking always happens in the dark
L182[18:37:08] <Mat2ch> It does
L183[18:37:15] <Mat2ch> but I'm using a docking mod, so...
L184[18:39:40] <Althego> for the lazy people https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/198067-ksp-loading-some-reassembly-on-progress/
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L188[19:30:51] <Althego> heh the pad is still not clear
L189[19:36:05] <umaxtu> window open till 9pm central again?
L190[19:38:24] <Althego> !road
L191[19:38:26] <Kerbot> Althego => Primary; November 8, 2020; 7:00 p.m. – 1:00 a.m.; Cancelled | Primary; November 9, 2020; 9:00 a.m. – 9:00 p.m.; Scheduled | Backup; November 10, 2020; 9:00 a.m. – 9:00 p.m.; Scheduled | Backup; November 11, 2020; 9:00 a.m. – 9:00 p.m.; Cancelled | Primary; November 12, 2020; 9:00 a.m. – 9:00 p.m.; Scheduled | Backup; November 13, 2020; 5:00 a.m. – 12:00 p.m.; Scheduled
L192[19:38:30] <Althego> seems so
L193[19:39:43] <Mat2ch> Why are they closing the road so early, when they are not clearly ready?
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