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L14[03:20:01] <Althego> interesting https://www.space.com/mars-astronauts-venus-flyby-idea.html
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L18[03:45:08] <packbart> if it doesn't work out, you're stuck at Venus ;)
L19[03:50:34] <Mat2ch> Oh, you should read the full article. That's another advantage of Venus, you can get home much more easy from there
L20[03:51:15] <Althego> 1. you get to mars faster 2. you get to mars with less delta v 3. you can come home sooner 4. also visit venus
L21[03:51:37] <Althego> so if anything it largely decreases risks
L22[03:52:14] <Mat2ch> but would a slingshot around venus not just add speed to the craft and you have then to break somehow at Mars even more? I'm wondering
L23[03:52:16] <Althego> also more frequent launch windows
L24[03:52:54] <Althego> that is probably true
L25[03:53:03] <Althego> but the initial burn is less
L26[03:54:07] <Mat2ch> I wouldn't be suprised if Elon announces this soon...
L27[03:54:24] <Althego> my problem is, why didnt he tweet about this :)
L28[03:55:17] <Mat2ch> He doesn't know yet
L29[03:55:22] <Mat2ch> so send it to him.
L30[03:55:37] <Althego> cant, i dont have twitter
L31[03:55:40] <Mat2ch> What I'm missing in the text is: What would be the shortest duration for a Mars flight?
L32[03:55:52] <Mat2ch> you don't have a twitter account :P
L33[03:55:58] <Althego> yes
L34[03:56:04] <Mat2ch> Language! ;)
L35[03:56:05] <Althego> the same way as you dont send an sms
L36[03:56:21] <Mat2ch> Back to my initial question... how long would a roundtrip take?
L37[03:56:26] <darsie> You don't send a short message service.
L38[03:56:44] <Althego> especially if you know about the horrors that happen in the background
L39[03:57:15] <Althego> obviously a non hohmann transfer would be faster
L40[03:58:06] <Mat2ch> darsie: I'm using it. ;)
L41[03:58:33] <Althego> there is also a way, where your aphelion is way farther than mars, that is somewhat faster, for not too much delta v, but if you dont stop at mars you arrive back to earth without prpulsion exactly one year later
L42[03:58:54] <Mat2ch> I guess that will be the first mission. A fly-by
L43[03:59:26] <Althego> you do a fly by in case you have some issues
L44[03:59:29] <Althego> otherwise you stop
L45[04:00:26] <Mat2ch> Now, who has a RSS setup and could try that? (And also an AC. I'd like to come over. I'm dying here)
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L47[04:00:49] <Althego> go inside the nearest server room :)
L48[04:01:17] <Mat2ch> Don't have the key cards for that.
L49[04:02:03] <Althego> guarded by 4 cacodemons
L50[04:04:52] <Mat2ch> More like underpaid security guards
L51[04:05:28] <Althego> but i bet you dont even have a chainsaw :)
L52[04:18:57] <Mat2ch> no angle grinder either
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L66[06:25:32] <Althego> lol intro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGmZ3Q0pC40
L67[06:25:32] <kmath> YouTube - So Where Are We With Solid State Batteries? | Answers With Joe
L68[06:26:07] <Althego> but interesting topic even without that
L69[06:54:27] <Mat2ch> Ok, the intro is really worthy to watch
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L71[07:06:01] <Althego> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EfCXQfxX0AA3m9d?format=jpg&name=large
L72[07:07:48] <Mat2ch> Wait
L73[07:07:54] <Mat2ch> since when do trees have a hitbox?
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L75[07:23:42] <Althego> that is a baobab tree
L76[07:23:48] <Althego> scanneble and touchable
L77[07:24:07] <Althego> like all the other surface features for the scanning arm
L78[07:25:19] <Mat2ch> well, I don't have the DLCs so I'm never gonna touch them
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L82[07:42:32] <packbart> there was also this on the forum: http://ksp.lisias.net/screenshots/2020/07/03_Valentina-Climbs-on-Trees.jpg
L83[07:42:35] <packbart> "Don't ask... I'm still trying to figure it out - I just looked to the other side for a few minutes and when I came back to her, I found this"
L84[07:42:59] <packbart> I never got her to jump high enough ;)
L85[07:43:03] <Althego> hmm climbing trees
L86[07:43:16] <Althego> i never tried f
L87[07:44:12] <FLHerne> Maybe you can parachute into them?
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L92[08:44:15] <Althego> i was waiting for this https://twitter.com/NASAInSight/status/1292845815078166530
L93[08:44:15] <kmath> <✔NASAInSight> I’ve used my scoop to help fill in the pit around my robotic mole. This, combined with another push on the soil fro… https://t.co/ybfUBesbOD
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L98[09:02:15] <Mat2ch> I bet that thing digs properly, when someone gets his feet on top of it ;P
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L110[10:12:25] <Althego> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/448534630778404866/742427660432572486/8bb3bc80f797ec7ff96ae3c09078ba6e.jpg
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L114[10:24:37] <flayer> IRON MAN
L115[10:24:39] <flayer> i like it
L116[10:26:08] <Althego> dont need to talk to pun :)
L117[10:35:43] <Althego> i wonder why that mystery goo experiment i left on the mun doesnt do anything
L118[10:36:07] <Althego> didnt geenrate even 1% of science for days
L119[10:36:51] <Althego> i guess i go back with bob and redeploy it, at least now he has 3 stars, it must help
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L124[10:51:12] <Althego> ah it sends it back at 10% increments. and because of the nights probably it was not working for half of the time
L125[10:51:55] <Althego> i wonder what happens if i deplot it again. does it erase the progress?
L126[10:52:04] <Althego> on the other hand it iwe going to be several times faster
L127[10:59:17] <Althego> or i have the rtg thingie, i can take that too
L128[11:02:02] <Althego> scott
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L172[20:00:40] <darsie> SPOILER ALERT! Darsie found an anomaly on Eve: https://imgur.com/a/XrTdr1R
L173[20:00:41] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/3x5azQl.png
L174[20:01:18] * raptop remembers the bad old days when Eve didn't have anomalies
L175[20:01:26] <darsie> :)
L176[20:02:18] <darsie> I used the aluminium fins/wings of the glide as cushion for landing.
L177[20:02:44] <raptop> yay, crumple zones
L178[20:06:18] <darsie> That's the rocket I used: https://i.imgur.com/juA3PJz.jpg After first stage burn out the second stage turns around and lights the terrier on top. In the inline fairing is the glider. The relay stays in orbit.
L179[20:09:14] <darsie> 5 am ...
L180[20:15:11] <raptop> Launch some more rockets and watch the sun rise?
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L189[22:48:03] <raptop> huh, intro level planetary science class lectures online https://www.planetary.org/outreach/introductory-planetary-science-astronomy
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