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L4[00:16:28] <JVFoxy> enough to make space icicles?
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L21[04:01:27] <Althego> hehe nasaspaceflight got the live nasa stream
L22[04:01:32] <Althego> while i didnt
L23[04:02:27] <Althego> but better late than never https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIB3JbIIbPU
L24[04:02:27] <kmath> YouTube - Watch NASA's Perseverance Rover Launch to Mars!
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L26[04:02:39] <Althego> there is this too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJIn5iBE46E
L27[04:02:40] <kmath> YouTube - LIVE: Atlas V Launches NASA's Perseverance Mars Rover
L28[04:03:27] <packbart> the everyday astronaut guy also has a stream, I heard. didn't look for it, though
L29[04:03:39] <Althego> as expected
L30[04:03:53] <packbart> I can't stand the nasaspaceflight channel. too much yapping
L31[04:03:56] <Althego> but how is it that the official stream is minutes late for me
L32[04:04:07] <packbart> "like our channel! we're better than The Media!"
L33[04:14:04] <Mat2ch> Althego: Satellite vs. Interwebz
L34[04:14:23] <Althego> so the net is this much slower?
L35[04:14:33] <Althego> although it goes on cable isntead of bouncing around the earth
L36[04:14:58] <Mat2ch> The problem are the buffers inbetween...
L37[04:15:41] <packbart> I like how NASA got Superman as commentator
L38[04:18:45] <Althego> the fastest stream seems to be the nasaspaceflight, then everyday astronaut, and only then the official nasa
L39[04:19:14] <packbart> they probably fudged their clock ;)
L40[04:19:21] <Althego> can be
L41[04:19:42] <Althego> they are in sync with nextrocket
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L44[04:37:38] <darsie> 1337
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L46[04:39:57] <Althego> 10 minutes
L47[04:44:36] <Althego> go
L48[04:50:06] <darsie> 30 s
L49[04:50:12] <Althego> launching
L50[04:50:24] <Althego> 30 sec is the delay in the official stream
L51[04:59:47] <Alanonzander> interesting, according to this launch, I launch my KSP stuff way too slow :P
L52[05:00:46] <Alanonzander> I launch around 1.2 to 1.5 Gs
L53[05:01:59] <packbart> I usually launch with a TWR around 1.3 but it quickly ramps up to 2-3
L54[05:03:36] <Alanonzander> I keep mine around 1.3-1.5 once launched
L55[05:04:25] <Althego> in reality most rocket engines cant throttle, you end up with an exponential g curve
L56[05:05:53] <packbart> I might try https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/175316-15-1101-bettersrbs-v123-29-july-2020/ in a new save - different SRB grain configurations
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L58[05:09:58] <Althego> when is the injection burn?
L59[05:11:17] <packbart> the next burn is a little over 20 minutes from now, if I heard that right
L60[05:12:19] <Althego> the only problem with the sample return is, that a starship might land before the sample collector gets there :)
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L62[05:35:17] <Althego> close to injection burn
L63[05:36:16] <packbart> the transfer stage goes to Mars, too, but eventually ends up in a solar orbit?
L64[05:37:10] <Althego> probably
L65[05:37:58] <Althego> in ksp i would drop it on the planet, but people dont litter mars
L66[05:38:02] <Althego> not yet at least
L67[05:39:21] <packbart> a crashed stage in KSP doesn't leave any debris, not even a crater. magic technology
L68[05:42:33] <darsie> Could it contaminate Mars?
L69[05:42:37] <darsie> With life
L70[05:44:37] <Althego> maybe
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L73[05:46:30] <darsie> Get's pretty hot during entry, but maybe some parts remain cool enough, especially if it remains in a stable attitude.
L74[05:48:55] <Althego> so it is away
L75[05:49:02] <packbart> some parts have been sterilized with hydrogenperoxide vapour
L76[05:49:17] <Althego> now we have to wait until what was it, 18th of february or so
L77[05:49:32] <darsie> yep
L78[05:53:33] <Althego> that is a thursday
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L83[06:26:43] <Althego> another static steel cylinder https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3Fmem6fB2A
L84[06:26:44] <kmath> YouTube - LIVE: Starship SN5 Static Fire From Boca Chica, Texas
L85[06:27:06] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-l-e95nST4&feature=youtu.be
L86[06:27:07] <kmath> YouTube - Трансляция запуска космических аппаратов «Экспресс-80» и «Экспресс-103»
L87[06:27:24] <Althego> 07:57:57 thu 2020-07-30 23:25
L88[06:27:24] <Althego> [Khrunichev State Research and Production Space Center] Khrunichev State Research and Production Space Center
L89[06:27:24] <Althego> Proton-M/Briz-M
L90[06:27:24] <Althego> Ekspress-80 & Ekspress-103 GEO
L91[06:27:24] <Althego>
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L93[06:34:39] <packbart> I missed the announcement - when is the press conference?
L94[06:35:37] <Althego> for what
L95[06:35:50] <Mat2ch> Althego: tz. I just wanted to say: Another day, another static fire test ;)
L96[06:36:01] <Althego> another static cylinder
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L98[06:36:29] <Althego> japanese have cherry blossom viewing, we have steel cylinder viewing
L99[06:36:40] <packbart> Althego: the rover post-launch conference
L100[06:36:45] <Althego> is there one?
L101[06:37:38] <Althego> 11:30 a.m. – Mars 2020 Perseverance post-launch news conference
L102[06:37:42] <Althego> in whatever time zone
L103[06:37:58] <Althego> eastern
L104[06:38:08] <packbart> yeah, I just read that too. I think its EDT
L105[06:38:32] <packbart> ( https://www.space.com/news/live/mars-perseverance-rover-updates )
L106[06:39:13] <Althego> so is that in 1 hour or in 2?
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L108[06:52:59] <Althego> the cylinder is so static that there is not even a stream, just a picture :)
L109[06:55:35] <packbart> hmm? I see a wobbling camera. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QbM7Vsz3kg
L110[06:55:36] <kmath> YouTube - 4K LIVE! 24/7 SpaceX Boca Chica Launch Pad
L111[06:55:40] <packbart> "SN5 pressed"
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L116[07:53:17] <Althego> this seems to be the post launch conf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yivHCoGnRgc
L117[07:53:33] <Althego> lol as soon as i linked it, it disappeared
L118[07:57:29] <Mat2ch> Althego: what was it?
L119[07:57:48] <Althego> this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QYf9p9Faj8
L120[07:57:49] <kmath> YouTube - After the Launch: Perseverance Mars Rover Update
L121[08:00:21] <flayer> hey, they didn't wait with the launch until i got back!
L122[08:00:26] <flayer> how rude.
L123[08:01:10] <packbart> well, there was a callout "flayer?" and someone said "Go"
L124[08:03:51] <Mat2ch> There's a Scott Manley in the chat. But since anyone can copy that picture and take that name it could be fake...
L125[08:04:14] <Althego> could be or not. at some time even scott and tim was there
L126[08:04:22] <Althego> in one of the older streams
L127[08:06:59] <Mat2ch> well, I joined this channel when scott was still here.
L128[08:07:18] <Althego> i saw him twice or so :)
L129[08:08:13] <Mat2ch> not just joined, but actively talking.
L130[08:08:34] <Mat2ch> I miss those days. I had so much fun with KSP back then...
L131[08:11:20] <packbart> there's an "Elon Musk" in the KSP-Reddit-Discord, too. sometimes "playing Kerbal Space Program"
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L134[08:25:57] <Althego> elon static cylinder program continues
L135[08:29:16] <Mat2ch> hopefully that was just venting of gasious oxygen that was too warm
L136[08:30:36] <packbart> I guess they're not going to repeat the specactular performance of the last test
L137[08:31:12] <Mat2ch> you know what I really hate? When people say "Oh, I haven't played Kerbal yet". It's Kerbal Space Program. Becaues nobody would ever say "I've never played Call yet", when they're talking about Call of Duty.
L138[08:31:17] <Mat2ch> It makes me itch :P
L139[08:34:00] <Althego> there is the game counter strike. often abbreviated as cs. so people say see es in english. but wait, it gets worse. in hungarian cs can bea single sound, around what ch would be in english, and it is in the alphabet. so people say that single sound
L140[08:34:35] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13OkD0C_TWU
L141[08:34:36] <kmath> YouTube - NASA Astronauts Return Home in SpaceX's Crew Dragon Spacecraft
L142[08:34:37] <Althego> in two days
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L144[08:50:01] <Mat2ch> Althego: if they'd say KSP (kay-es-pee) then I'd be fine. But just Kerbal?
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L146[09:04:16] <Althego> i didnt know there is a camera on it looking up
L147[09:04:45] <Althego> if it really makes true video both up and down, that would be amazing
L148[09:05:09] <Mat2ch> Camera?
L149[09:05:19] <Althego> on the rover
L150[09:05:43] <Althego> curiosity also made a video, sort of, but it was more like many stills
L151[09:05:51] <Althego> and only looking down
L152[09:06:01] <Althego> real video of the landing
L153[09:06:16] <Althego> i could watch that for hours
L154[09:07:43] <Mat2ch> Oh
L155[09:09:01] <darsie> I do say "Ich spiele Kerbal."
L156[09:10:30] <Mat2ch> Shame on you!
L157[09:11:38] <Althego> hehe
L158[09:19:53] <Althego> it also has a microphone, but all the previous missions with microphones failed :)
L159[09:20:16] <darsie> Can it make music?
L160[09:20:47] <darsie> Like, spin some actuator motors at variable rate?
L161[09:21:51] <darsie> That would count as dancing to music.
L162[09:24:44] <Althego> i guess even insight could do that
L163[09:26:03] <packbart> Insight even has a percussion instrument for the beats
L164[09:31:28] <Althego> hehe
L165[09:31:41] <Althego> it wasnt good for anything else yet
L166[09:37:08] <packbart> Elon's cylinder is still quite static. The status reverted to "Pressed" (not Pushed)
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L168[10:10:57] <Althego> so what is the difference?
L169[10:14:22] <packbart> it had progressed to "SN5 Venting" already but apparently there was a boat within the range
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L173[10:30:56] <Mat2ch> and now it looks like they scrubbed it for today
L174[10:38:30] <Althego> wait a sec, there was no mmx video yesterday
L175[10:39:05] <Mat2ch> no
L176[10:39:45] <Mat2ch> he made a community post that he has only half of a story for us and doesn't want to show us it yet, so no video for this week.
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L184[12:38:15] <Althego> another elon static cylinder program
L185[12:38:16] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rj-tMlbrM0
L186[12:38:16] <kmath> YouTube - LIVE: Starship SN5 Static Fire From Boca Chica, Texas
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L188[13:10:47] <packbart> oh, it fired already
L189[13:10:56] <packbart> now the interesting part begins
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L215[15:59:03] <Red5> So...been away from this channel for a while, did we all finally agree that GIF has a soft G?
L216[16:02:29] <packbart> it's a J as in José
L217[16:04:31] <Red5> Exactly!
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L222[16:40:12] <UmbralRaptor> Soft as the outer layer of steel on a battleship's turrets
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L224[17:03:41] <packbart> with reactive armour or not?
L225[17:08:41] <raptop> A lot of explosives are soft, so no
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L242[20:36:30] <Althego> finally a milestone in elon static cylinder program
L243[20:37:34] <umaxtu> and it didn't blow up after
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