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L1[00:48:22] <flayer> alright
L2[00:48:26] <flayer> time to fire up the ol' kerbal
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L8[02:00:59] <Mat2ch> Althego: Starlink should be today, right?
L9[02:01:18] <Althego> yes
L10[02:01:23] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU6KogxG5BE
L11[02:01:48] <Althego> and i hope it is not delayed any further because it would move its launch time to work or commute time
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L15[03:56:47] <flayer> siigh
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L26[06:35:53] <Althego> eh delayed again
L27[06:36:09] <Althego> https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1281942134736617472
L28[06:39:32] <packbart> where's kmath to read the tweets for me? :)
L29[06:45:36] <flayer> no
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L32[07:02:29] <flayer> ok
L33[07:02:34] <flayer> what to do
L34[07:06:26] <Althego> herd cats
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L40[09:00:05] <UmbralRaptor> pet the cats
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L43[09:28:23] <flayer> lmao, some people
L44[09:29:35] <edgeworth__> Is this about the ban
L45[09:33:53] <flayer> i'm not gonna discuss it here
L46[09:34:20] <edgeworth__> Its fine
L47[09:34:33] <edgeworth__> You dont have to
L48[09:37:56] <flayer> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI5ogyuFvKo
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L50[12:20:56] <flayer> i'm farting so much lately
L51[12:22:01] <darsie> Use it as rocket fuel.
L52[12:24:14] <JVFoxy> stay away from flames
L53[12:24:57] <JVFoxy> suddenly wondered if detectors co2/smoke could pick up on farts
L54[12:27:31] <flayer> luckily i have induction cooking
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L71[14:47:38] <kubi> https://imgur.com/gallery/3ygH40s
L72[14:48:52] <packbart> looks fun until someone accidentally nudges the g-force limiter
L73[14:54:46] <raptop> people respawn afte 2 hours, right?
L74[14:55:19] <edgeworth__> That reminds me of 4D movies lol
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L94[22:55:23] <JVFoxy> lol... lofted Bill and Bob together into orbit, no SAS, no pilot..
L95[22:56:58] <UmbralRaptor> well, with a reasonably stable rocket…
L96[22:57:42] <JVFoxy> lol... stable? well it flew up at least
L97[22:57:57] <Althego> caps lock helps a lot
L98[22:58:07] <JVFoxy> or just being quick on the fingers
L99[22:58:27] <Althego> dont need to be that quick if you can have smaller input
L100[22:58:44] <JVFoxy> I did a stripped down version of my 'Wagon' which I used to get peeps out to Mun orbit
L101[22:59:10] <JVFoxy> not really 'smaller'.. just increases slower
L102[22:59:21] <JVFoxy> what I probably could use is analog sticks
L103[23:08:12] <Althego> doesnt help because of the deadzone
L104[23:08:21] <Althego> enforced by the game
L105[23:08:40] <Althego> so there is a minimal force that you cant decrease
L106[23:08:52] <Althego> that is why i decided to not use joystick
L107[23:09:04] <Althego> in elite it helps, but ther you can have really small input
L108[23:16:46] <JVFoxy> dual shock...
L109[23:17:26] <JVFoxy> though, one of the used ones I bought.. ugh. had some issues with the sensors inside which.. ya made it utterly useless
L110[23:18:32] <JVFoxy> a bit of a deadzone. Ok.. can live with that. Normally, you'd expect the input to max out at the stick's full travel right? this controller, maxed out at half that distance for some reason. No, wasn't going to live with that thanks.
L111[23:19:00] <JVFoxy> second one I got, didn't have that problem, thankfully
L112[23:20:17] <darsie> You can lower the effect of gimbals or RWs.
L113[23:22:36] <Kevin> you can get zero deadzone in the game but game-quality controllers really aren't good enough for flying things. you need a controller that has a physically low deadzone, which is really only a thing for simulators and rc
L114[23:24:34] <Kevin> i've had an rc transmitter connected to ksp a few times for doing flying stunts
L115[23:25:40] <JVFoxy> one of those pc trainer RC rigs?
L116[23:25:57] <JVFoxy> I've got a DX6i but its not the sort of thing I could just 'plug in' to the pc
L117[23:26:36] <JVFoxy> I can live with a bit of deadzone.. I can't live without centering
L118[23:26:36] <Kevin> i've had both a ppm adapter and a direct usb connection to (more current) radios
L119[23:26:40] <Kevin> so i'll go with "yes"
L120[23:27:01] <JVFoxy> uses the 3.5mm plug port in the back or?
L121[23:27:18] <Kevin> yeah
L122[23:27:46] <JVFoxy> there's an addon for my DX6i, lets me transmit on different protocals, uses that port. But the addon also has to plug into the power port as well to run
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L124[23:28:19] <Kevin> old video playing with such things: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reXfVlhn25A
L125[23:28:26] <JVFoxy> I know some radios now use wireless training links, but not sure what frequency or protocals they use
L126[23:28:48] <Althego> hehe the old models
L127[23:30:19] <JVFoxy> sigh, good ol' ksp
L128[23:30:40] <Kevin> ooh, forgot, there was a second one :D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ma7FHSONKU
L129[23:31:07] <JVFoxy> I can vtol, but times I wonder if anyone has done a 3d glasses mod. Having perspective when vtol'ing I feel would help so much
L130[23:32:13] <Althego> in reality binocular vision doesnt help you much for this, objects are too far
L131[23:33:31] <Althego> but there are other hints the brain can use. that time the pilots said they are missing the molehills in the sim around the airfield
L132[23:33:50] <Althego> because those can be used as one of those hints
L133[23:35:24] <JVFoxy> hints aka range makers and parallaxing
L134[23:35:51] <JVFoxy> the farther away something is, the slower it moves across the field of vision from side to side.
L135[23:36:13] <Althego> optical flow. can use it to get time until collisin, but not distance
L136[23:36:29] <JVFoxy> one of the things they said in flying school: easy way to tell if you going to hit something in mid-air? If that dot in the sky doesn't move. Oh and it gets big really fast.
L137[23:36:31] <Althego> supposedly the fly flies with that
L138[23:37:49] <JVFoxy> one of the big reasons why they make sure windscreens in places are really clear. Mind you, one way to tell if a dot is in the sky or on the window, shift body side to side, see if the dot moves or not
L139[23:38:02] <JVFoxy> places-plans ugh hate that
L140[23:40:25] <Althego> i want that cute ingenuity to fly next year on mars. we are running out of time because the launch was delayed by some rocket sensor
L141[23:43:23] <Althego> and we still dont know when the crew dragon comes back
L142[23:43:33] <Althego> possibly middle of august
L143[23:44:08] <Althego> it is as if they sent the crew to a vacation on the iss, enjoy your stay as long as you like
L144[23:46:02] <JVFoxy> lol... or what the toilet in the crew dragon looks like. Said was going to tell us about after they got back
L145[23:46:15] <Althego> hehe that too
L146[23:46:29] <Althego> the upside down toilet
L147[23:46:31] <JVFoxy> some people were speculating it was something in the roof of the cabin
L148[23:46:48] <Althego> not that it matters in space
L149[23:47:09] <JVFoxy> ya but what about launching and landing? Got some hefty forces then
L150[23:47:38] <JVFoxy> not about using it at those times, but ... hopefully nothing falls out of the ceiling
L151[23:48:45] <Althego> hehe
L152[23:49:12] <Althego> in space, nobody can hear you fart
L153[23:51:02] <JVFoxy> ... in spacesuit, ya just leave it at that
L154[23:52:37] <JVFoxy> a bit fond of the Gemini program. If I had the money, I so would see about designing and building a two person craft, which could also haul cargo
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