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L7[04:53:31] <Mat2ch> Althego: you're giving
them views, which in return says them: I'm right. Don't do
that!
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L12[06:03:38] <JVFoxy> oof... ok for as
much as I love KSP, seems I get to a point where too many
directions I could go with things at once and now I don't know what
to do.
L13[06:04:02] <JVFoxy> then I find myself
just messing around with whatever comes to mind, but doesn't
actually progresses things.
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L15[06:07:03] <maddog59> Newbie question: I
see negative values in parenthesis next to the rewards on some
(many) of the contracts (usually k$ and Reputation). What does that
mean and why are they appearing?
L16[06:08:37] <JVFoxy> if you decline
them
L17[06:09:08] <JVFoxy> I think... I know
there's one that says if you fail the contract..
L18[06:11:13] <JVFoxy> maddog59 stock?
Unless they changed something in the latest version..
L19[06:11:34] <maddog59> Huh.... so, is
there a difference between declining a contract, and just letting
it expire? I mean, if there's no penalty for letting a contract
expire, but there is for declining, why would anyone even do
that?
L20[06:12:12] <JVFoxy> just pulled game up
for refresher. I don't see any negative values in parenthesis in
stock version I have.
L21[06:12:32] <Althego> Mat2ch: i am
watching anti flat earthers
L22[06:12:35] <maddog59> When you say,
'stock' ... I assume that means, no mods? I have a couple in place,
and I have a couple of policies to improve the science return (from
the Admin center).
L23[06:12:37] <JVFoxy> Maddog59 if you let
it expire, no pentalities, far as I know.
L24[06:13:24] <Mat2ch> Althego: you
should've added the "anti" before ;)
L25[06:13:28] <JVFoxy> though also means
you have to wait for a while before it'll cycle out. Declining lets
you expedite things a little.. I think. I haven't ever
declined
L26[06:13:40] <Mat2ch> I know some who
watch those people for fun and laugh about them
L27[06:14:53] <Mat2ch> maddog59: when you
decline a contract you get different contracts sooner. I guess this
is just to prevent that you decline contracts until you get what
you wan
L28[06:14:56] <Mat2ch> *want
L29[06:15:28] <JVFoxy> Altehgo Mat2ch I had
something pop up earlier in the week, tag line was along the lines
of something 'flat earth' and how it was going to change people's
minds.
L30[06:16:15] <maddog59> I kind of thought
that might be the case, Mat2ch. Thanks much, both of you. I don't
think there's anything I can do about the neg#'s anyhow, just
trying to improve myself. :-)
L31[06:16:39] <packbart> if you decline a
contract, Gene makes a funny facepalm sound ;)
L32[06:16:45] <JVFoxy> lol
L33[06:17:07] <JVFoxy> decline everything,
does he go through the facepalming several times?
L34[06:17:23] <maddog59> re: flat earthers:
I think it's a huge conspiracy to just 'punk' the rest of us. LOL
Nobody with two neurons that connect can really believe that
bs.
L35[06:19:16] <packbart> well, there are
two distinct facepalm sounds. I once clicked through everything and
clipped the sounds for use in Chatterer ;)
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L37[06:21:22] <JVFoxy> maddog59 who
knows... I wouldn't be too surprised if some of them are actually
legit believers
L38[06:24:16] <Althego> 2 categories. those
who make a living from it, by selling stuff for the dumbs ones, and
the dumb ones actually believing in it
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L41[06:29:00] <JVFoxy> then there was that
one that built a water powered rocket to prove things were flat...
no idea what became of that little stunt..
L42[06:29:48] <maddog59> Didn't he get
killed when the vehicle malfunctioned? Or maybe it was NASA that
sabotaged it, to prevent him from exposing the truth. ;)
L43[06:30:08] <Althego> yes, he died
L45[06:30:45] <lordcirth> The guy who tried
to launch himself probably wasn't a flat earther. He suddenly
became a flat earther when he needed to crowdfund $20k.
L46[06:30:49] <Althego> mad mike hughes.
and he was doing that way before he said he was a flat earther. so
he probably was saying the flat earth to generate publicity
L47[06:31:40] <JVFoxy> ah... gone down the
greedy path then :P
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L67[10:10:57] <kmath> YouTube - Touhou
Project Bad Apple CPU
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L69[10:41:51] <maddog59> Spacewalk problem:
I'm trying to rescue a Kerbal; got Merrie out of the wreckage and
need to cross to the rescue vehicle. He lets go, I wait for him to
clear the vehicle, then tap R to activate the RCS and the RCS pack
pitches him over, and won't stop firing. What in the world am I
doing wrong? I've never been very good at space walks before, but
t
L70[10:41:52] <maddog59> his is
ridiculous.
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L76[11:00:53] <darsie> I get that, too, in
1.7.3, sometimes.
L77[11:01:13] <darsie> firing the RCS
manually usually stops it, IIRC.
L78[11:02:03] <Althego> too late
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L80[11:02:25] <darsie> ik
L81[11:02:34] <darsie> I intentionally talk
to phantoms :).
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L88[11:04:10] <Althego> jazzkutya: call upc
:)
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L90[11:04:50] <jazzkutya> Althego: that's
not upc :)
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L92[11:05:38] <jazzkutya> you know,
vodafone. and these were stupid windows restarts.
L94[11:15:05] <kmath> YouTube - Arianespace
Flight VV16 – SSMS PoC (EN)
L95[11:15:09] <Althego> but i cant watch
it
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L97[11:22:36] <Maddog59> So right after I
posed a question I lost my internet, so I need to repeat in the
hopes someone can help.
L98[11:22:36] <Maddog59> I’m having trouble
with a spacewalk. After I let go of the ship and hit R to activate
the RCS, the kernel goes into a pitch and the RCS won’t shut off.
All I’m doing is tapping R. No other buttons. What’s wrong? Is this
some weird bug? Or am I doing something wrong?
L99[11:22:52] <Althego> that is probably a
bug
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L102[11:26:01] <raptop> I mean, it should
only last for a few seconds as the kerbal starts pointing in a
specific direction
L103[11:26:14] <Althego> too late
again
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L105[11:29:56] <Maddog59> And I lost
internet again. Trying to work from a phone.
L106[11:29:56] <Maddog59> I saw someone
reply it may be a bug. Sorry I didn’t catch the handle. You may be
right. I’ve rebooted and restarted the game and it seems to be
working better. I should’ve thought of that before.
L107[11:30:08] <kubi> ehh
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L109[11:30:18] <raptop> I mean, it should
only last for a few seconds as the kerbal starts pointing in a
specific direction/stabilizes
L110[11:30:29] <kubi> Kopernicus is
getting back to life hopefully
L111[11:30:48] <kubi> it is a
masterpiece
L112[11:31:10] <Althego> what happens
first? ksp 2 or starship suborbital flight?
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L114[11:34:58] <Maddog59> Nope. Spoke too
soon. RCS just comes on and stays on. Hitting space bar seems to
try to bring its back toward me, but it just keeps firing in a
random configuration.
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L122[12:42:04] <kmath> YouTube - THE FOXES
LOVE ME!
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L131[13:47:14] <JVFoxy> Althego heh?
L132[13:48:14] <JVFoxy> oh whoops.. poof.
I guess if I expanded the channel activity list, I'd have seen
they'd left already
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L154[16:57:09] *
JVFoxy groans...
L155[16:57:20] <JVFoxy> mindlessly messing
about...
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L160[17:11:48] <raptop> JVZomby
L161[17:16:45] <JVFoxy> trying out some
mission ideas... like getting a probe out of kerbin's SOI, then
bringing it back.
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L164[17:18:00] <raptop> It's a nice way of
scraping out a bit more science.
L165[17:20:23] <JVFoxy> 11 day one way
trip though
L166[17:20:51] <JVFoxy> I still have Val,
Jeb, and that one rescue still in Mun orbit waiting for me to
figure out what to do with them.
L167[17:20:58] <raptop> I mean, you can
always run small missions in the interim
L168[17:21:22] <JVFoxy> half tempted to
say fff-it, just bring them back, figure out things after
L169[17:23:36] <JVFoxy> but.. contract to
land on mun, two LKO rescues, one is a pilot
L170[17:25:30] <raptop> launch probe,
rescue pilot, finish probe?
L171[17:25:42] <JVFoxy> I guess I could
just fire off this out-of-SOI probe, launch rescues right after.
Constantly firing off rockets one after another right away.. oof,
starting to feel a bit arcade like
L172[17:25:54] <JVFoxy> :P
L173[17:31:19] <raptop> :D
L176[17:34:56] <raptop> Amused by the
thrown together from different spare parts aesthetic
L177[17:35:54] <raptop> huh, classic Elite
has 2048 planets. (Procedural generation is magic)
L178[17:38:26] <JVFoxy> Raptop lol, isn't
that what most of KSP is about though?
L179[17:38:39] <raptop> Well, yes
L180[17:38:41] <raptop> Ish
L181[17:38:45] <raptop> It's
complicated
L182[17:39:16] <JVFoxy> granted, career,
not everything's been opened up. Limited to 30 parts, but first
upgrade on Launch pad, but that's by choice
L183[17:39:18] <raptop> Like, there's
procedural terrain, but the details have sometimes been
hand-altered (notably with Kerbin)
L184[17:39:34] <JVFoxy> oh.. Elite
L185[17:40:45] <JVFoxy> I had a friend who
did a game with whole bunch of planets. They did texture mapping
but I'm not sure if they had done it to /all/ of them
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L188[17:46:11] <JVFoxy> long while back, I
did do a station with docking ports on arms. Trouble is, I'm not
sure its something I can launch with the current game's physics.
Maybe if I sent it up in parts?
L189[17:52:56] <umaxtu> are the hinges
vanilla or part of the DLC?
L190[17:53:53] <umaxtu> that way you could
fold the arms out
L191[17:57:04] <JVFoxy> think hinges are
DLC
L192[17:58:16] <JVFoxy> way it was
originally designed though, was back in KSP 1.2.0 It was originally
meant to replace another station I had in orbit at the time, but
never got launched. Called it 'Crossroads'
https://imgur.com/a/waEbI9u
L194[18:00:43] <umaxtu> that should be
alright
L195[18:02:07] <FLHerne> raptop: It was
going to have more, but the publishers told them that would be
silly
L196[18:05:20] <raptop> hm
L197[18:06:47] <JVFoxy> If I was to remake
it now, I can do away with struts cuz of auto struts. Mind you,
probably doesn't need it anyways. I may have added them in for
looks?
L199[18:07:35] <FLHerne> And another one
on Black Arrow which is equally topical
L200[18:08:45] <JVFoxy> heh.. Black
Arrow.. aka lipstick rocket?
L201[18:09:06] <FLHerne> Yeah,
weird-looking thing
L202[18:10:44] <JVFoxy> Brits and their
rocket but also Canada and the Avro Arrow as well... which sadly
got cut short
L203[18:11:21] <FLHerne> There's a whole
British tradition of that, my grandad worked on TSR-2
L204[18:11:36] <FLHerne> and was so peeved
when they cancelled it that he emigrated to Zambia :p
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L206[18:12:16] <JVFoxy> Sadly, we also
only had the one jet fighter ever made natively. The Canuck. I saw
a video no it, was surprised it went through so much during its
lifetime
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L209[18:13:36] <JVFoxy> TSR-2 looks
cool
L210[18:14:02] <JVFoxy> though, landing
gear looks a bit weird, but I can understand why they went that
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