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L1[00:06:26] <Althego> there was a press
conference after the launch. at some point one reporter asked what
the head of roscosmos said about this. after bridenstein's reply
elon said the trampoline is working
L2[00:07:18] <Althego> comments explained
that the joke was, the head of roscosmos said at some point, he is
not worried about the sanctions against russia, because what could
the americans do, go into space with a trampoline?
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L5[00:23:13] <Althego> hehe and as the crew
chief said, it happened, the hardest thing was to hand back
control
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L7[00:27:15] <kubi> they need
competition
L8[00:27:22] <kubi> so then pushing down the
prices
L9[00:28:10] <kubi> new requirements will
drive up the price of spacex
L10[00:28:31] <Althego> new
requirements?
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L12[00:29:30] <Althego> when does 1.10 come
out?
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L14[00:32:33] <kubi> soon (tm)
L15[00:32:39] <Althego> thought so
L16[00:32:49] <kubi> there will be new
requirements for sure after the first mission
L17[00:33:15] <kubi> they had a proof of
concept with the dryrun
L18[00:33:15] <Althego> why
L19[00:33:30] <kubi> then FOA with the
first manned
L20[00:33:43] <kubi> now comes the
production
L21[00:34:35] <Althego> but if you do
something in mass production, prices go down
L22[00:34:54] <kubi> unless you are the
only supplier
L23[00:35:13] <Althego> they have pre
negotiated priced
L24[00:35:19] <Althego> i dont think those
can change easily
L25[00:35:50] <Althego> so it is the best
for spacex if they can do it even more cheaper
L26[00:36:02] <kubi> or get funded
L27[00:37:08] <kubi> also, price and cost
pressure is not necessarily the best strategy
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L29[00:37:46] <kubi> especially for this
early stage of the life cycle of products and services
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L32[00:44:25] <kubi> nevertheless, I'm
waiting for the times when there is no 2 hour procedure to open
some doors
L33[00:44:40] <Althego> yes that was almost
funny yesterday
L34[00:44:44] <kubi> knock-know
L35[00:44:51] <Althego> watching a guy
struggle with several tools in black and white
L36[00:44:52] <kubi> hi! come in!
L37[00:44:56] <Althego> like it was done in
ancient times
L38[00:45:06] <Althego> in modern times i
would like to just open the door
L39[00:45:17] <Althego> in color
L40[00:45:55] <kubi> was watching the video
on a phone
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L42[00:46:40] <kubi> we were laughing a bit
when the guy almost hurt himself unscrewing the bolts
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L44[00:47:35] <kubi> the first thing we
learnt in the secondary school from workplace safety is how not to
use a wrench
L45[00:47:41] <Althego> doug hit his head
on the hatch
L46[00:47:52] <kubi> that happens
L47[00:48:06] <kubi> bigger hole or smaller
head needed :)
L48[00:48:16] <Althego> hehe
L49[00:49:19] <kubi> that two bolts locked
onto each other and the action with the two wrenches is a big
no
L50[00:49:33] <Althego> so anyway i could
start to play a career again, but since 1.10 is soon tm, maybe i
should do something else
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L54[00:53:56] <kubi> need to work too
L55[00:54:01] <kubi> it is a weekday after
all
L56[00:54:24] <Althego> pentecost, monday
is holiday
L58[01:00:50] <kubi> here it comes
L59[01:02:44] <XXCoder> not for me, holiday
last week
L61[01:03:04] <Althego> here is the head
hit
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L63[01:03:25] <Althego> after that you can
see him touching his head several times
L64[01:03:50] <Althego> probably bleeding a
bit
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L66[01:20:05] <Mat2ch> ah, that's why he
wanted a napkin later
L67[01:20:14] <Mat2ch> I thought he just
feared his forehead was to shiny
L68[01:20:22] <Mat2ch> And yes, holiday
today :P
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L70[01:20:26] <Mat2ch> So house cleaning
stuff to do ;)
L71[01:22:12] <Althego> hmm, electron, in
less than 10 days
L72[01:22:29] <Althego> but they usually
delay all launches serveral times
L73[01:22:38] <Althego> name is dont stop
me nw
L74[01:22:59] <Mat2ch> Great
L75[01:23:01] <Mat2ch> thanks Althego
L76[01:23:08] <Mat2ch> now I have a song
stuck in my head
L77[01:23:12] <Althego> hehe
L78[01:23:12] <Mat2ch> I hope you are
happy!
L79[01:23:21] <Mat2ch> DON'T STOP ME
NOW
L80[01:23:25] <Mat2ch> I'M HAVING A GOOD
TIME
L81[01:23:28] <Althego> i'm having a good
time :)
L82[01:23:32] *
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L84[01:29:57] <kmath> YouTube - Crew
Dragon, But Outsourced To Kerbals
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L93[02:18:49] <Mat2ch> Althego:
thanks
L94[02:18:57] <Mat2ch> best way to do it
yet :D
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L135[07:48:37] <kmath> YouTube - Live
Event with NASA Astronauts in Space
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L140[08:32:30] <Althego> hehe spacex
recorded the sounds for fueling and reentry for the astronauts to
listen to during training
L141[08:37:01] <Althego> nobody asks the
mabout the pad ninjas
L142[08:38:34] <Althego> hehe the toilet
works
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L144[08:48:40] <Althego> hehe was a rather
sudden cut
L145[08:49:50] <Althego> yesterday and
today they said "uphill" several times. inigo montoya
would have a few words about it :)
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L148[08:56:08] <Guest83081> Hello, are
most mods still locked to the 1.8 version?
L149[08:56:53] <Althego> that is for each
mod to decide. but actually the changes are so small now, that
usually they keep working with 1.9 even if they warn you about
incompatibility
L150[08:57:53] <Guest83081> Ah, thank you.
I was interested mainly in roverdude's mods and TAC life support.
Do you have any info about them working well in 1.9?
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L154[09:10:07] <packbart> TAC works
L155[09:10:45] <packbart> TAC-LS that ist,
there are more
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L159[09:35:30] <kmath> YouTube - Live from
Space to Earth: NASA and SpaceX Event from the International Space
Station
L160[09:37:17] <Guest83081> Thank you, yes
I meant TAC-LS
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L168[10:04:33] <Althego> the even didnt
start yet. must be the space weather
L169[10:11:23] <flayer> you're the space
weather!
L170[10:15:50] <packbart> the stock heat
shield shrouds really look weird. but I don't want the whole
ReStock stuff, either
L171[10:16:07] *
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L172[10:16:15] <Althego> i usually just
move the parts a bit closer and that shroud disappears
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L174[10:18:00] <packbart> yeah, but then
the heat shield still sticks out a bit *and* I'd like to have a
shroud :) I'll try to update just the heat shields with the ReStock
models. should work
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L178[10:36:11] <packbart> it does. yay.
stock service bay and science, ReStock heat shields and
decouplers
L179[11:03:20] <Althego> hehe ksp but the
sun is expanding
L180[11:04:15] <kubi> beardy penguin has
two series on it
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L183[11:13:28] <packbart> CKAN made me
click so many mods, it's time to look at the list and weed out
those I'll never use, anyway ;)
L184[11:13:46] <Black_Eagle> eww,
modding
L185[11:13:51] <JVFoxy> huh..
L186[11:14:06] <packbart> (Jeb overshot
the landing zone as usual)
L187[11:14:55] <JVFoxy> need.. for speed..
whoops
L188[11:14:56] <packbart> Black_Eagle:
installing mods manually made me think twice+ before downloading a
mod. CKAN makes it sooo much easier, it's very tempting :)
L189[11:18:00] <JVFoxy> I'd been thinking
about easing into a few mods myself.. mind you, my KSP machine is
no longer online so that might prove a bit.. troublesom
L190[11:18:53] <JVFoxy> packbart got a
list of 'must have' mods?
L191[11:18:54] <packbart> some small ones
I wouldn't have installed by hand. "Quick Start" drops me
right into the VAB or the last vessel in the last opened save. I'll
keep that for sure. "Wwwwww" to toggle Kerbal
walking/running. Ever had to walk back to the capsule after EVA
fuel ran out (yeah, ok, should have planned that one better
;)
L192[11:19:06] <packbart> JVFoxy: that's a
very subjective thing, I think
L193[11:19:15] <packbart> it ranges from
"none" to a whole kitchen sink
L194[11:19:24] <JVFoxy> oh well shoot
then
L195[11:20:43] <packbart> uhhh. at least
I'd say KER (I use a lot of HUDs) and SSPXr (the station parts look
cool), Editor Extensions (vertically align, master snap)
L196[11:21:45] <packbart> Chatterer for
sure (I added a few clips with Gene's sounds from Mission Control
:), HangarExtender if you like to build large
L197[11:22:05] <JVFoxy> I had
Chatterer...
L198[11:22:24] <JVFoxy> found out there
was some actual SSTV audio files in there, made a collage
L199[11:22:53] <packbart> less essential
are [x] Science, StoreMyReports, RCSBuildAid, TextureReplacer
(diverse heads with beards), BonVoyage (background rover autopilot)
and maybe some science package like DMOS
L200[11:23:05] <Black_Eagle> i love
modding except i hate it and i hate maintaining mods
L201[11:23:11] <Black_Eagle> something
always breaks
L202[11:23:19] <Black_Eagle> with an
update, that is
L203[11:23:24] <JVFoxy> I might look into
TacLifesupport again
L204[11:23:31] <Black_Eagle> and no, i'm
not going to have two versions of ksp
L205[11:23:53] <packbart> me neither, so
far. I was lucky with updates
L206[11:23:59] <JVFoxy> eh... -tries to
hide 2 dozen KSP folders from Black_Eagle...
L207[11:24:21] <packbart> by the time
1.8/1.9 happened, I already had removed Kopernicus (only used it
for custom asteroids)
L208[11:25:06] <JVFoxy> do you only keep
the latest version of KSP on hand?
L209[11:26:09] <packbart> According to
CKAN, I have 75 mods installed (plus a manually installed sunflare
and post-processing mod). That's nothing compared to others on the
forums ;)
L210[11:26:42] <packbart> and a few of
those 75 are just configs for other mods
L211[11:26:42] <Black_Eagle> heheh
:D
L212[11:26:55] <Black_Eagle> JVFoxy
yes
L213[11:27:17] <packbart> JVFoxy: so far,
yes. If an update breaks a mod that I really like, I might keep a
copy
L214[11:27:24] <packbart> but that hasn't
happened for me yet
L215[11:27:56] <JVFoxy> I've been KSP'ing
since 0.23 on this machine... its pretty much the only major game
on here at the moment
L216[11:28:01] <packbart> CKAN also makes
it much easier to keep multiple installations with different mod
lists
L217[11:28:07] <packbart> I tried that
with git branches before
L218[11:28:17] <JVFoxy> well.. there, on
the laptop at the moment cuz windows 10 vs 7.. didn't want 7 online
any more till figured something out
L219[11:33:06] <flayer> ok
L220[11:33:09] <packbart> many more
complicated life support mods break down on rails or time-warp. I
always end up with too little of some critical resource because the
converter chain doesn't work as expected
L221[11:33:23] <flayer> i did landings in
all biomes of the mun now, i think
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L223[11:34:37] <JVFoxy> heh... what was
that one mod, make kerbals have awake, work and rest cycles. soon
as their work cycle was up, went on 'strike' instantly? So.. if
trying to fly or land, kerbal would 'shut off' if you had him going
for too long?
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L225[11:36:31] <packbart> there is one
that puts Kerbals on vacation after missions, I think. and another
or more turn stressed-out Kerbals into Tourists, so you'd better
have a backup probe core
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L227[11:40:07] <JVFoxy> Ya, Kott was
showing off a review, I still remember was talking about how they
thinking should have some sort of 'soft switch' rather than kerbal
going on 'strike' the instant their time was up
L228[11:41:00] <JVFoxy> I know another had
something to do with how much space they have on board, making them
homesick? I was never sure how that one worked when I looked at it,
never got it though or remember which it was.
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L231[12:02:39] <packbart> I really liked
Kerbalism until I ran into problems on longer missions with their
life support recycling chains. It's a real game-changer,
though.
L232[12:05:14] <JVFoxy> well... balance
between making a game enjoyable, vs having to micromanage every
tiny little bit..
L233[12:09:06] <JVFoxy> one thing that
troubles me with Taclifesupport though. Takes a bit more to bring
along recyclers for some stuff vs just bringing a ton of
supplies
L234[12:12:51] <packbart> for most short
missions, that's true in Real Space, too, isn't it?
L235[12:13:58] <packbart> a space station
with green house and some recyclers doesn't need many supplies.
actually, I had to ferry in "Waste" and
"CarbonDioxide" to keep producing food :)
L236[12:14:13] <Althego> hehe
L237[12:18:26] <JVFoxy> hmm... thinking it
over, I guess it also depends on how many you take up as well for a
mission. Supplies run out faster..
L238[12:20:31] <JVFoxy> was checking some
stuff out a while back, for a few kerbals, a couple of boxes of
supplies could last them a long time. Vs hauling up a few
recycliers which could weight a few tons
L239[12:46:16] <JVFoxy> btw... just been
wondering: a mod to keep kerbals from automatically filling command
pod seats? I get Jeb is the star of the game, but ugh... jumping
into the seat before the craft is even started all the time? Makes
him see obsessively eager. Should just plunk a mk1, throw him out
onto the runway
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L252[14:18:20] <packbart> ah, too
late.
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L255[14:29:18] <flayer> what they feed you
is all lies
L256[14:29:38] <packbart> huh, I never
noticed the braking lights on the small landing gear before
L257[14:30:27] <packbart> what's the
nutritional value of lies?
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L268[15:22:57] <kbuck> sweet
treehouse
L269[15:24:35] <hatrix> I don't know how
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raptop isn't sure that I'd call A3 easy to print
L274[15:51:24] <raptop> I mean, I can
pretend that A4 is ANSI A, but ANSI B has a rather different aspect
ratio...
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