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L2[00:11:49] <Althego> hah i have been
waiting for this. now coreteks video. but 1 hour long!
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L34[07:30:54] <Althego> Due to a tropical
depression developing off the Southeast Coast of the U.S., now
targeting Tuesday, May 19 at 3:10 a.m. EDT for the Starlink
mission—SpaceX teams will continue monitoring launch and landing
weather conditions
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L37[07:45:46] <Dutchy45> What does it mean
when the burn time indicator, on the right of the nav ball, is
red?
L38[07:45:57] <Althego> you dont have
enough
L39[07:46:26] <Althego> but it was always
bugged for me, that happens even when you do
L40[07:46:51] <Althego> the red part should
be over the burn time what you currently have
L41[07:47:17] <Dutchy45> It's completely
red and I have a full fuel tank
L42[07:47:38] <darsie> Are you using a
vacuum engine on the bottom of Eve?
L43[07:48:18] <darsie> Or an ion
thruster?
L44[07:48:29] <Dutchy45> I'm in space
around Kerbin
L45[07:48:59] <Dutchy45> My engine won't
"engage" either
L46[07:49:02] <darsie> Is the engine
online/staged?
L47[07:49:11] <Dutchy45> yes
L48[07:49:36] <darsie> Try using it.
L49[07:50:32] <Dutchy45> lol, I did. I get
the sound of a spark plug not quite getting there
L50[07:50:50] <Althego> maybe no way forthe
fuel to get to the engine?
L51[07:50:54] <Althego> or incorrect fuel
type?
L52[07:50:56] <darsie> Are the fuel tanks
online?
L53[07:51:09] <Dutchy45> swivel engine with
liguid fuel and oxidizer
L54[07:51:30] <darsie> Turn on the
tanks.
L55[07:51:50] <darsie> Got a blocking
separator or so between engine and tank?
L56[07:51:56] <darsie> Maybe a heat
shield?
L57[07:52:09] <darsie> screenshot?
L58[07:52:10] <darsie> F1
L59[07:53:04] <darsie> Why a swivel in
vacuum?
L60[07:53:14] <Dutchy45> sorry! neede to
activate engine!
L61[07:53:20] <Althego> hehe
L62[07:53:20] <darsie> :)
L63[07:54:41] <Dutchy45> "Why a swivel
in vacuum?" 'cause I didn't know that's a bad idea.
L64[07:55:15] <Althego> 3.6 röntgen, not
great, not terrible :)
L65[07:55:16] <darsie> Terrier and Ant are
vacuum engines with higher Isp.
L66[07:55:31] <darsie> and lower mass
L67[07:56:25] <Althego> meanwhile the
stream is on
L68[07:56:43] <darsie> url
L70[07:56:54] <kmath> YouTube - May 17 Live
Broadcast: Atlas V USSF-7
L72[07:57:08] <kmath> YouTube - Watch the
Space Force launch a Top Secret Space Plane, the X-37B
L73[08:01:21] <darsie> I also use the Spark
in vacuum for intermediate thrust. It's not a vacuum engine, but
has excellent TWR.
L74[08:01:35] <Althego> yes, still a nice
engine
L75[08:01:50] <Dutchy45> Good to know, I'll
keep it in mind
L76[08:02:30] <Althego> hehe flies
sustainably
L77[08:02:43] <Althego> launches on an
atlas from ula for a ton of money
L78[08:03:40] <darsie> 100% renewable fuel
production :).
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L81[08:09:28] <Althego> look at that they
may go to space today
L82[08:20:20] <flayer> life is weird
L83[08:20:53] <Althego> chemicals
collecting more chemicals to produce even more chemicals. it is
weird
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L89[09:31:16] <Althego> lol
L90[09:31:19] <Althego> spartan
L91[09:31:37] <Althego> you wanted space?
you got space! up close and personal
L92[09:32:02] <Althego> there is a new word
now. covidiot
L93[09:34:13] <Mat2ch> That word is weeks
old. ;)
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L95[09:41:28] <Althego> apparently this
pandemic is going to be with us all year long
L96[09:41:37] <Althego> maybe forever
L97[09:44:52] <flayer> yeah, and just like
spanish flu, we will all need to injections
L98[09:44:55] <flayer> ...oh wait
L99[09:45:10] <flayer> it's such
mania
L100[09:47:04] <flayer> i didn't get a
vaccine shot the last time spanish flu spread, i won't get one
now
L101[09:47:10] <flayer> it's silly
L102[09:54:41] <Althego> camelot, let's
not go there, it's a silly place :)
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L106[10:04:26] <kmath> YouTube - Starship
SN4 Testing LIVE From Boca Chica
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L112[10:25:02] <Mat2ch> Althego: I guess
they'll emtpy a whole tank this time...
L113[10:25:39] <Mat2ch> The first static
fire tests were just seconds
L114[10:25:53] <Mat2ch> because they
wanted to do them, but the tank hasn't be fully tested
L115[10:26:08] <Mat2ch> now it is and
they're going to do a full static fire test
L116[10:26:36] <Mat2ch> But I wonder if
they're going to remove the raptor engine again and inspect it or
if they then go to a flight test
L117[10:27:26] <Mat2ch> and I guess a
raptor engine is expensive and they don't want to crash it. But on
the other hand, it's SN20, so they have some as spare
L118[10:27:42] <Mat2ch> and they will
break some
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L124[11:28:55] <flayer> my eve rover
partially burnt up and crashed into an ocean :(
L125[11:29:48] <Althego> hehe
L126[11:29:57] <Althego> just as
planned
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L134[12:15:53] <Althego> hehe
"kilometers are than a mile"
L135[12:16:06] <Althego> *weaker
than
L136[12:19:03] <packbart> the mile better
not get into a fight with a thousand meters
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L138[12:25:19] <Althego> hehe everybody is
watching that boca chica test. and none of them knows what is
happening
L139[12:25:37] <sandbox_> what is the
strongest distance?
L140[12:25:46] <Althego> who knows
L141[12:26:07] <Althego> just one of the
guys said km is smaller than a mile with weaker, accidentally
L142[12:26:38] <Althego> so they are
looking at the venting, oh it is venting. and they dont know why or
what this means
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L145[12:29:23] <Althego> lol i didnt know
these
L147[12:29:56] <Althego> short neck
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L153[12:40:34] <Althego> hehe
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L155[12:42:39] <Althego> probably there is
no other company that produces huge steel cylinders and cameras
document all what they do from multiple angles
L156[12:42:54] <Althego> there are also
drive by and drone videos too
L157[12:44:47] <kubi> bolhafasznyi
L158[12:44:55] <kubi> that is even
shorter
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L160[12:50:24] <Althego> hehe, i know that
one though
L161[12:50:56] <Althego> also morality
statute, etc
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L175[13:54:45] <Dutchy45> I get the
message: cannot add manouvre node (control locked) How do I unlock
this?
L176[13:56:29] <JVFoxy> make sure not in
time warp, make sure you have signal connection, are you on
re-entry, ship heating up?
L177[13:56:45] <JVFoxy> probe core: do you
have battery power still?
L178[14:02:31] <Dutchy45> Ah, electric
charge! Thanks JVFoxy!
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L180[14:05:16] <JVFoxy> not enough
battery?
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L183[14:12:10] <Dutchy45> didn't extent
solar panels before warping
L184[14:12:29] <Dutchy45> F5-F9
L185[14:16:00] <JVFoxy> believe you can
set the probe to auto hibernate on warp...
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L188[14:17:55] <JVFoxy> I had this thought
in the earlier versions, where could disable the power bank on the
probe as a backup. If the battery drained because I forgot turn it
towards the sun, if I could use the 'backup power'. Only, I wasn't
sure without control if you could still toggle the disable on
things.
L189[14:19:26] <Dutchy45> I glanced at the
"hibernate on warp", didn't think about it.
L190[14:19:49] <Althego> i dont get why it
isn the default
L191[14:20:01] <Althego> why would you
want batteries to drain in warp anyway?
L192[14:21:36] <packbart> ack. that is one
of the custom patches I use. Kerbalism does away with that,
anyway
L193[14:22:13] <packbart> huh. does anyone
here use the Scatterer mod? Oceanic refraction looks weird for me
but I seem to remember seeing it working before (on Linux,
though).
L194[14:23:08] <packbart> and another
luxury problem. I can finally capture smooth video in KSP (that
Windows Gaming Bar has its uses) - now the data rate is a bit high
for casual throwing it into IRC.
https://formularfetischisten.de/~packbart/temp/foo.mp4
L195[14:23:22] <JVFoxy> Althego lol..
could put a probe on KSC, if the craft isn't in focus, it doesn't
drain anything
L196[14:23:43] <JVFoxy> granted.. its on
rails... I've seen a many craft dip down past the 70km orbit, only
to come back up like nothing 's happened
L197[14:24:20] <Tank2333> Formular
fetischist? was zum
L198[14:24:34] <Althego> nice looking
water
L199[14:25:12] <JVFoxy> Lol.. video
buffering
L200[14:25:14] <packbart> yeah, Scatterer
is nice. it does have odd quirks for me, though. the start menu
clouds have odd colors. and the refracted parts of the vessel are
missing
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L202[14:25:34] <JVFoxy> Packart sigh.. I'd
like to do recordings, but ... tend to get nervous messing things
up
L203[14:25:39] <packbart> yeah, if I ever
start recording KSP videos, I probably should back to x1080 and a
lower frame rate
L204[14:26:14] <JVFoxy> stuck on laptop,
it can't handle 60fps... noticing almost everything's 60 now..
720/60... so means I gotta go down to 480
L205[14:26:14] <Tank2333> 74 fps is very
odd
L206[14:27:04] <packbart> it's 74.999
something fps, vlc says. grabbed with the windows gaming thingy, it
probably just captures at the display rate
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L208[14:27:22] <Tank2333> did you try
OBS?
L209[14:27:27] <Althego> com on elon, give
me that static fire
L210[14:27:50] <Tank2333> didnt know
windows had a recording thingy
L211[14:27:57] <packbart> no. it's all new
and shiny to me. I just figured that I'd use the windows internal
video grabber. I can't uninstall that xbox app
L212[14:28:17] <JVFoxy> I have OBS.. I
also tried the software that came with my vid card but.. ugh.
Uncompressed
L213[14:28:25] <Althego> hehe
L214[14:28:34] <Althego> nvidia has its
capture thingie
L215[14:28:43] <Althego> and can even
compress it for you
L216[14:29:04] <Althego> i am not sure
about amd
L217[14:29:08] <JVFoxy> mine is AMD Radeon
7790
L218[14:29:30] <Althego> but regardless it
looks like next machine is going to be all amd. i have gone full
circle, just needed something like 15 years
L219[14:29:43] <Tank2333> i use the nvidea
thingy when i stream Rimworld to my friends, but only 1060 or above
works good
L220[14:29:47] <JVFoxy> granted, probably
could do with a better video card now but eh... at the time I was
told cards were stupid expensive due to bit-mining
L221[14:30:11] <Althego> i thought that
market crashed some time ago
L222[14:30:16] <packbart> it does have a
sound mixer. good enough for the odd snippet I grab. I don't plan
on posting anything on Youtube or Twitch :)
L223[14:30:16] <Mat2ch> no static fire
test today it seems :|
L224[14:30:19] <JVFoxy> its gotten better
now I think
L226[14:30:23] <Tank2333> i think AMD
cards also have something like it but i heard its not so
great
L227[14:30:38] <Althego> also now there
seems to be some competition, this year is going to be
interesting
L228[14:31:04] <JVFoxy> technically I
could get something now but... I need to sort some life stuff out
first
L229[14:31:12] <Tank2333> i dont think amd
can catch up in the high end
L230[14:31:29] <Mat2ch> Tank2333: they are
great for their money.
L231[14:32:24] <Mat2ch> and usually you
don't need more gpu power than they provide. So, if you're not a
hardcore gamer with too much money at hand, they're an option
L232[14:32:29] <packbart> anyway, so
nobody here has scatterer refraction problems? I have to search the
forum, I guess. Odd that it worked on Linux but not on
Windows
L233[14:32:39] <Tank2333> true
L234[14:33:32] <JVFoxy> lol.. I'll just
use OBS for now.. sees to behave the best so far. Just wish I had a
better net connection for streaming or something
L235[14:33:43] <Tank2333> i think i never
owned an amd/radeon card...
L236[14:34:09] <packbart> I did, ages
ago
L237[14:34:27] <Tank2333> JVFoxy how much
upload do you have?
L238[14:34:37] <packbart> when their Linux
drivers were meh
L239[14:34:53] <Althego> the previous pc,
around 11 years old now, started with a radeon, and as it happens
the old car is in it again
L240[14:35:12] <Althego> still works
L241[14:35:18] <Tank2333> old car?
L242[14:35:25] <JVFoxy> Tank2333
roommate's connection. It seems to be scattered all over the place,
gateway sometimes seems to just drop out of existence sometimes
too
L243[14:35:28] <Althego> card
L244[14:35:32] <Tank2333> :)
L245[14:35:34] <JVFoxy> granted.. wireless
but eh..
L246[14:35:54] <Tank2333> not good
streaming conditions
L247[14:36:17] <JVFoxy> I could go
wired... just have to dig out the cable, run it down the
hallway...:\
L248[14:36:24] <JVFoxy> laptop can't go
wired though
L249[14:36:33] <Tank2333> usb dongle
L250[14:37:27] <JVFoxy> Althego lol.. my
older pc, I've had to re-solder a regulator chip back to the video
board a few times. Turns out the thing gets stupid hot. It tried
clipping a metal heatsink, no good. Turns out its airflow... at
least so far.
L251[14:38:20] <Althego> seems no more
testing this time, cars started to move
L252[14:40:06] <JVFoxy> lol.. another
older machine, I pretty much used all the slots on it. Those days,
tv tuner card to watch TV through the PC...
L253[14:40:06] <Tank2333> "1.
Camera
L254[14:40:07] <Tank2333> Imagine you’re
playing Roblox and you want to show off your new high score."
roblox highscore? who plays that game anymore
L255[14:40:25] <Althego> hehe i used to
have a tv tuner card too
L256[14:40:48] <Althego> the one before
that
L257[14:41:20] <Tank2333> i have iptv now
i could watch with VLC tv, but i dont watch tv anymore :)
L258[14:41:29] <Althego> hehe same
here
L259[14:41:38] <JVFoxy> someone gave me
another older tuner board, an ISA one? I never used it, was some
weird setup it had
L260[14:42:43] <packbart> TV tuner card.
even more ages ago...
L261[14:43:02] *
packbart sneakily pulled a cable between his room and the amplifier
in the attic
L262[14:43:10] <packbart> my parents never
suspected I had a TV ;)
L263[14:43:17] <Althego> hehe
L264[14:43:18] <JVFoxy> the one I did use,
sometimes I had to restart it to get it going for some weird
reason. It would either just output sound or video, I dont'
remember, unless if I restarted it a few times
L265[14:45:10] <JVFoxy> Packbart I so
wanted that tv tuner thing for Gamegear, but couldn't ever afford
the $100+ they were asking..
L266[14:46:12] <JVFoxy> now-a-days, people
just pull out their phones, watch stuff on there. No wonder no one
is making little portable tv's any more
L267[14:46:31] <Tank2333> phones are
little portable tvs
L268[14:46:33] <Althego> prtable tvs were
never too commo
L269[14:46:42] <Althego> and
computers
L270[14:47:11] <packbart> I vaguely recall
that it was a "Hauppauge WinTV". not sure if ISA or PCI
or how much it was
L271[14:47:45] <Althego> hehe hauppauga, a
name i havent seen for a while
L272[14:47:59] <packbart> it's probably
lurking in a box somewhere around here
L273[14:47:59] <Althego> that was the well
known tv tuner maker
L274[14:48:33] <JVFoxy> geez.. going to
make me wanna look up what I had now
L275[14:48:42] <JVFoxy> I know the one I
did actually use was PCI
L276[14:48:44] <packbart> branded as
WinTV, it worked remarkedly well under Linux with, uhh, some
software I forgot
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L278[14:49:37] <Tank2333> i recall the
name WinTV, i think a friend had one because he didnt had a tv in
his room
L279[14:50:09] <Althego> hehe wintv is too
close for comfort to vivtv
L280[14:50:10] <packbart> yeah, my parents
never would have allowed it, if they knew ;)
L281[14:50:23] <Dutchy45> I think my game
lost a ship! Can't find it in the tracking station
L282[14:50:34] <Tank2333> Press F
L283[14:51:04] <JVFoxy> I remember the
All-in-One-Wonder card...
L284[14:51:28] <Dutchy45> Tank2333, in the
tracking station?
L285[14:51:54] <Tank2333> Press F to pay
respect - its a call of duty joke
L286[14:52:12] <Dutchy45> Aah :)
L287[14:52:52] <Althego> or more like an
internet meme at this point
L288[14:53:05] <JVFoxy> ok bleh.. just
realized I had my older case on the desk here. Getting into it
would removing another case, then the cover, so not going to
bother...
L289[14:53:23] <packbart> uh. do you have
any types of ships disabled in the tracking station? or did you
park it on a suborbital trajectory and forgot? it happens ;)
L290[14:53:54] <packbart> iirc KSP does
write a message to the log when it deletes a vessel
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L292[14:54:23] <packbart> something about
pressure and being on-rails
L293[14:54:58] <JVFoxy> deletes if its
considered debris... under certain cases. Like if you launching and
it goes beyond a certain distance.
L294[14:55:31] <JVFoxy> Packbart ya I kind
of hate when it goes on rails and comes back around even though it
was way way in the atmos
L295[14:56:07] <Dutchy45> Nothing
disabled, I see other manned vessels anyway. Periapsis was about 80
km
L296[14:56:36] <JVFoxy> you in
tracking?
L297[14:56:46] <Dutchy45> yes
L298[14:57:05] <JVFoxy> does it still hid
debris? run the mouse over the top of the screen, a pull down will
show, see if anything's not highlighted
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L300[14:57:53] <JVFoxy> long as it was in
orbit.. probably would have to rotate around the planet to see if
anythings hiding from you
L301[14:58:08] <Dutchy45> I did split it
in 2 and worked with an unmanned probe. Wonder if uncoupling
lowered periapsis
L302[14:58:53] <Althego> possibly only a
few km normally
L303[14:59:33] <JVFoxy> if it lacks
probe.. it gets turned into debris.. although, if it has antenna
(not sure if regular or relay), it still shows up as a sat..
L304[14:59:45] <Dutchy45> Maybe it crashed
into the mun?
L305[14:59:50] <packbart> even that should
just put it on a Schroedinger Orbit. it won't burn unless
watched
L306[14:59:59] <JVFoxy> mun.. ok sounds
like you've got something more going on
L307[15:00:22] <Dutchy45> apoapsis was
between Mun and Minmus
L308[15:00:49] <packbart> yeah, it could
have been caught by the Mun's SOI
L309[15:00:56] <JVFoxy> too many objects
but even then, wouldn't it just delete the oldest debris?
L310[15:01:36] <JVFoxy> Dutchy45 what was
the flyby height on the way out there before detaching do you
know?
L311[15:02:13] <Dutchy45> detached close
to apoapsis
L312[15:02:20] <packbart> Kerbal Alarm
Clock has an option to set SOI change alarms automatically. I
should enable that, too
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L314[15:03:17] <JVFoxy> ok then I don't
know... not enough info..
L315[15:03:26] <Dutchy45> KAC is the 1 mod
I use. I'm gonna do the SOI change alarm
L316[15:04:19] <Dutchy45> I should get a
message though of catastrophic failure, right?
L317[15:04:37] <packbart> not for
unwatched vessels on rails
L318[15:04:52] <Dutchy45> ok
L319[15:05:03] <JVFoxy> lol... crashing on
a surface.. though wouldn't it already be too late?
L320[15:05:47] <packbart> ominous
spontaneous science results from seismic sensors
L321[15:06:02] <packbart> "what just
crashed into the Mun?!"
L322[15:06:53] <Dutchy45> No missing
Kerbals in the astronaut complex
L323[15:07:46] <JVFoxy> wait... can you
now use the sesmic sensor for planet impacts or.. that need a mod
still?
L324[15:07:53] <packbart> I still think
KSP logs crashed vessels on-rails either in the debug console or
KSP.log. haven't checked, though
L325[15:09:44] <JVFoxy> ....
L326[15:11:22] <Dutchy45> renaming the
unmanned probe can't have anything to do with it right?
L327[15:15:09] <packbart> I can't imagine
how, unless you set its type to "debris"
L328[15:16:01] <Dutchy45> I didn't even
know you could change type
L329[15:16:07] <packbart> ah.
"Warning: Vessel Untitled Space Craft crashed through terrain
on Mun"
L330[15:16:08] <packbart> [Vessel Untitled
Space Craft]: Vessel was destroyed
L331[15:16:26] <packbart> so at least you
should find something about "Vessel was destroyed" in the
log, if that happened
L332[15:16:45] <Dutchy45> where's this
log?
L333[15:17:41] <packbart> either in the
debug-console (mod-F12) or in a file in the KSP directory. it's
KSP.log under Linux
L334[15:17:47] *
packbart scoots over to the windows box again
L335[15:18:15] <Azander> and windows
L336[15:18:38] <packbart> ah, same.
KSP.log :)
L337[15:19:15] <packbart> I used the Steam
properties dialog to find the directory. "browse local
files"
L338[15:20:37] <JVFoxy> packbart still
need a mod for sensing impacts with that seismic device?
L339[15:20:47] <packbart> the Breaking
Ground DLC
L340[15:22:26] <Dutchy45> nothing in the
log
L341[15:23:03] <packbart> ... and you're
sure, you didn't imagine the whole mission? scnr ;)
L342[15:23:03] <JVFoxy> ah ok DLC
L343[15:23:33] <JVFoxy> suppose I should
try getting both DLC now I've funds... trouble is paying for it.
VISA ya.. but ugh its broking at the moment
L344[15:23:34] <Dutchy45> :) , well my
probe is still going
L345[15:25:05] <packbart> KSP keeps
backups of your savegame. maybe reload an older one
L346[15:26:58] <Dutchy45> It's not that
important. I'm learning the game. Wanted to know what happened/is
happening
L347[15:27:42] <JVFoxy> well it keeps 'a'
backup... at least.
L348[15:27:50] <JVFoxy> a little sour
windows borked their file restore thing
L349[15:28:02] <Dutchy45> Now I can't save
my stranded Kerbal
L350[15:29:11] <packbart> JVFoxy: huh? I
see about 5 backup files. I just copy and load them
L351[15:29:33] <packbart> is there an
in-game restore?
L352[15:31:37] <packbart> right, I could
add the KSP saves directory to that Windows "file
history" thingie
L353[15:31:39] <JVFoxy> oh.. the new
backup folder
L354[15:31:55] <packbart> "new"?
I never knew a time without it :)
L355[15:32:12] <JVFoxy> I think you have
to manually switch? I don't know. back when file restore on my
machine used to work I'd use that after a day has passed. I never
considered the backup folder
L356[15:32:46] <packbart> yeah, I just
copy the backup file into the directory, then load it in KSP
L357[15:32:56] <JVFoxy> I'm also pretty
bad at using revert flight if I'm not exactly happy with
things.
L358[15:33:42] <packbart> well, that's
what it's for
L359[15:34:18] <packbart> reset the
Matrix
L360[15:35:02] <JVFoxy> its bad enough I
do a lot of design testing so .. figured it was just stupid
habit
L361[15:35:35] <JVFoxy> keep telling
myself I want to do a session recording of a mun mission but with
tons of restrictions
L362[15:36:40] <packbart> that's why they
made it leak memory. to discourage you from reverting too often
;)
L363[15:37:03] <JVFoxy> hey. I'm just
happy I don't have wings exploding from 5 miles out
L364[15:37:39] <JVFoxy> granted... I've
run into a few other problems in the past. Biggest was, game
decided to control lock /everything/ I couldn't even move my view
around
L365[15:38:08] <JVFoxy> turns out a glitch
where it missed resetting bit flags in the game that toggled what
you could control
L366[15:38:28] <packbart> Steam says I
bought KSP in 2018-11. that must have been version 1.4 or so
L367[15:39:23] <packbart> ah, I had to
click that "clear input locks" thingy exactly once so
far. can't remember the circumstances, probably a mod messing
up
L368[15:40:44] <JVFoxy> ya.. had do that
too. Only I didn't have mods. It was when I was switching views..
don't recall from which view though. Just that it was to the
outside vessel one
L369[15:41:05] <sandbox_> my dad used to
get those Hauppauge cards
L370[15:41:52] *
JVFoxy been in KSP since 0.23.. though it got updated automatically
to 0.24 one session. Since then, doesn't bother with
launcher.
L371[15:46:12] *
JVFoxy realizes something. Checks a folder in some archives,
"oh.. the Toshiba TV tuner is what I had"
L372[15:56:58] <JVFoxy> BTW... that build
report that the VAB/SPH has... it considers it a bad practice to
have docking ports as separators? Something about weak connections,
but we have auto strutting now... so.. still bad or?
L373[15:57:49] <JVFoxy> Bring it up as I
have boosters connected to a first stage that way... ok so I'm
being a bit cheap not unlocking things.
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L375[16:05:03] <darsie> JVFoxy: If I
want/need a port I often also use it as decoupler. Not sure why the
Engineer warn's about that.
L376[16:07:05] <JVFoxy> Darsie I'm
guessing back in the day, it considered the connection weaker than
if you used a radial or inline decoupler just by itself.
L377[16:11:25] <JVFoxy> granted, the
couple of craft I made, you do end up with boosters having blunt
ends as a result of how you need to connect to the ports... was
more wondering if other players would frown on it.
L378[16:11:50] *
packbart often puts struts between payload fairing plate and docked
craft, anyway
L379[16:13:50] <darsie> JVFoxy: I never
build the stuff you build.
L380[16:14:07] <darsie> And you never
build what I build.
L381[16:14:20] <darsie> We must be
different.
L382[16:14:59] <darsie> Hmm, I wonder how
I got my Duna glider to LKO.
L383[16:17:05] <JVFoxy> everyone's
different. ya I know
L384[16:17:53] <darsie> But yeah, I frown
on your builds :).
L385[16:17:59] <darsie> Don't ever do that
again :).
L386[16:18:39] <JVFoxy> show me something
you've done then...
L387[16:18:42] <darsie> The ISS wasn't
sent to LEO fully assembled :).
L388[16:18:49] <JVFoxy> and have I ever
frowned on anything you've showed?
L389[16:19:21] <darsie> ofc not. What I
build is always beautifully efficient and realistic. :)
L390[16:19:56] <JVFoxy> its space...
L391[16:20:10] <JVFoxy> borg cubes....
doesn't have to be elegant
L392[16:20:15] <JVFoxy> :P
L393[16:20:34] <JVFoxy> airplanes on the
other hand... I've done some pretty sleek designs.
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L396[16:23:56] <JVFoxy> pretty barebones.
Watcha plan'n?
L398[16:24:07] <darsie> That's a space
station :).
L399[16:24:12] <darsie> contract work
:)
L401[16:28:25] <JVFoxy> forgot.. you stock
or some mods?
L402[16:28:51] <darsie> A few mods. KER,
EEX, dated quicksaves.
L403[16:28:58] <darsie> picoports
L404[16:29:31] <JVFoxy> picoports, is that
the one with specific orientation to dock or?
L405[16:29:45] <darsie> There are 4
different versions.
L406[16:30:17] <JVFoxy> I remember Kott's
review on it but it been ages
L407[16:30:41] <JVFoxy> I know in module
manager, there is a setting but I don't remember the
specifics
L409[16:32:11] <JVFoxy> I was more curious
if any additional parts or not. Seeing how much affects way we
build things
L410[16:32:23] <JVFoxy> going through my
screenshots..
L412[16:32:44] <darsie> I just have the
picoports extra.
L413[16:33:47] <JVFoxy> heh.. I did a
little 'RCS tug' as well, has a seat. Was more so I could move
station parts around waaaay back long ago
L415[16:34:35] <JVFoxy> ugh.. was long
before we could tweak the RW's power. Normally I had to turn it off
and use the probe core's. Otherwise.. ya...
L417[16:39:36] <darsie> jk, you can build
any way you like :).
L418[16:40:28] <JVFoxy> just looking at
pics, finding it sad I've ended up dropping so many career sessions
whenever KSP got updated
L419[16:41:44] <JVFoxy> some of the stuff
that can be made in the game, it shows how much creativity is out
there. its all cool
L420[16:43:10] <JVFoxy> ok.. looking at
more recent pics, ugh my memory must be slipping. Some craft here I
forgot I built just a few weeks ago. Some monster thing with 16
nuke engines for example..
L421[16:44:15] <Dutchy45> 16.. what on
earth for?
L422[16:44:55] <Dutchy45> Love to see that
1....
L425[16:45:34] <JVFoxy> trying some things
out...
L426[16:46:20] <JVFoxy> ... I don't
normally build big craft
L427[16:46:28] <darsie> :)
L428[16:46:28] <Dutchy45> ..... why?
L429[16:46:50] <darsie> He's building a
subway line in LKO :).
L430[16:47:02] <Dutchy45> lol
L431[16:47:53] <JVFoxy> originally I meant
to set 12 nukes, but I couldn't position the center plate exactly
right. So 'mirrored' instead. I was taking some inspiration from
some RPG books I have.
L432[16:48:39] <Dutchy45> Have you used it
for anything?
L433[16:50:00] <Dutchy45> And how did you
get it into orbit?
L435[16:51:29] <JVFoxy> I cheated it into
orbit... I was more trying to get a feel for things, trying out
different building..
L436[16:52:40] <JVFoxy> something that
big, I'd probably get a mod that lets you build ships in orbit or
other places than the KSC.
L437[16:54:58] <flayer> i built a ship
1/3rd that size and thought it was excessive
L438[16:55:25] <flayer> i have yet to
launch it
L439[16:57:50] <JVFoxy> the stuff I
normally build don't even come close to that size..
L441[17:02:31] <JVFoxy> that rule.. bigger
something is, so many ten-fold in lifting power you'll need.. or
something of the like, right?
L442[17:04:32] <JVFoxy> any case... I
don't recall my heaviest launch, probably no more than 200t in
sandbox if that?
L443[17:07:54] <Dutchy45>
darsie...nice
L444[17:18:56] <darsie> :)
L445[17:18:59] <darsie> gn
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L450[17:55:24] <packbart> oops, old
input
L451[17:56:02] <packbart> forgot to press
"enter"
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