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L5[01:18:03] <Althego> starship is progressing nicely, and no doubt it would be able to land on the moon in a few years
L6[01:18:26] <Althego> but what about mars? how would it transport so many people? what about weightlessness?
L7[01:18:56] <XXCoder> I think everyone would need to do daily exercises
L8[01:19:00] <XXCoder> in least a hour a day
L9[01:19:24] <XXCoder> expecially isomorphic one where person is pushed towards surface and person must stay standing
L10[01:19:58] <Althego> that doesnt completely stop every negative effect. also look at how hard time astronauts have after returning to earth from the iss. they wouldnt be able to handle even martian gravity
L11[01:20:34] <XXCoder> yeah. maybe centifungual? similiar effect as gravity
L12[01:22:25] <Althego> and you cant do the zubrin style detached engine rotation
L13[01:23:11] <Althego> the ship is too small for this to work well
L14[01:23:43] <Althego> of course spacex wouldnt start to build the ship without thinking this through, they just havent told us yet :)
L15[01:24:22] <XXCoder> you can do it pretty cheaply by using cables
L16[01:24:50] <XXCoder> of course both ends is unable to visit each other, but can do say weekly meetups to deal with stuff while low gravity
L17[01:25:25] <Althego> say you want 1g. that would mean the cable needs to support the weight of the whole ship, and the ship needs to support its own weight while hanging instead of standing on legs
L18[01:26:47] <XXCoder> if I was designing it, maybe would go for say 1 km diameter
L19[01:26:54] <XXCoder> meaning 500m cables each end
L20[01:27:00] <XXCoder> longer if possible.
L21[01:27:08] <XXCoder> very doable. its not like im building bridge to space.
L22[01:27:20] <XXCoder> and most of ship wouldnt be tethered
L23[01:27:26] <XXCoder> it would be centeral axis
L24[01:27:34] <XXCoder> its just living modules that spin at ends
L25[01:27:50] <XXCoder> its perfect for small crew, like 10 to 20
L26[01:28:28] <Althego> what we currently know of the design, the living quarters are inside the ship
L27[01:28:50] <XXCoder> yeah rest of ship would be also living envorment
L28[01:28:52] <Althego> it is able to dock, so you could dock something in space
L29[01:29:08] <XXCoder> though smaller number of crew thats current on "crew shift"
L30[01:29:24] <XXCoder> while modules is on "remote work" or just gravity days
L31[01:30:10] <XXCoder> ideally 2/3 of time is spent in gravity
L32[01:32:32] <XXCoder> reeling in and out probably have to be designed extremely robost
L33[01:32:41] <XXCoder> robust
L34[01:32:48] <XXCoder> with backups and all
L35[01:33:09] <XXCoder> and its probably not to 1g, more like .5g or something enough to help body keep muscles
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L37[01:48:31] <Althego> scott didnt say anything about this, i am disappointed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Me5_2Nw1m4
L38[01:48:31] <kmath> YouTube - BepiColombo’s Earth flyby
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L43[03:01:36] <darsie> https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Jetpack_deorbit
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L64[08:38:53] <flayer> i don't understand why they'd name the entry 'official ksp merchandise'
L65[08:39:10] <flayer> like you'd expect anything but the official merchandise on a link found within the base game
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L69[08:42:32] <packbart> I want a Jeb's Junkyard mug
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L72[08:45:14] <Althego> ok, after more than 3 years i set up a local irc client in the company
L73[08:45:37] <Althego> remotely, because nobody goes into the office during the human malware situation
L74[08:45:44] <Althego> so i actually dont need it now :)
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L96[11:55:29] <darsie> https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Jetpack_deorbit
L97[12:04:32] <UmbralRaptop> \o/
L98[12:05:37] <Althego> i read it the first time alrady
L99[12:05:50] <Althego> cant say anythin about it
L100[12:06:00] <Althego> is the wtf allowed to be there?
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L107[13:43:03] <darsie> Althego: Is the BadS allowed in there? :)
L108[13:48:44] <Althego> hehe devs react to 27 minute doom eternal speedrun, the title alone is enough
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L110[13:55:28] <raptop> We sort of lack in official guidance(tm), so I'm going to go with yes
L111[13:55:47] <raptop> (that is, "wtf" is allowed)
L112[13:55:56] <raptop> But, someone higher up might veto me
L113[14:00:01] <darsie> Could be changed to 'What?!'.
L114[14:00:30] <raptop> wat in tarnation?
L115[14:00:38] <darsie> what?
L116[14:06:00] <Althego> what... a... cartooon
L117[14:11:57] <flayer> you're a cartoon!
L118[14:12:01] <flayer> haha!
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L160[23:30:42] <mib_psdh4d> ?
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L162[23:35:28] <Althego> snmp mib?
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