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L14[02:43:13] <Althego> soyuz launch in a day
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L34[04:45:49] <darsie> Are some Eggs transient? I detected one from orbit, but can't find it on the ground.
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L36[04:46:28] <Althego> eggs?
L37[04:46:33] <darsie> Easter eggs
L38[04:47:00] <darsie> Or is it the levitating rock?
L39[04:48:04] <darsie> I found like 14 EEs on Kerbin. Is that too much?
L40[04:49:03] <darsie> Hmm, https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/List_of_easter_eggs#Kerbin says there are 12.
L41[04:49:30] <Althego> there is one that spawns randomly, the green monolith
L42[04:52:42] <Althego> but even that is fixed position in one game, just set to a random position at new game start
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L56[05:56:13] <Guest53100> hi all. I am looking for a career to use with blue dog design mod. Any suggestions ?
L57[05:56:45] <Guest53100> running on 1.8.1
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L62[06:25:57] <packbart> Guest53100: what kind of suggestions?
L63[06:26:03] <packbart> Go to Dres! :)
L64[06:30:31] <Althego> hehe
L65[06:30:55] <Althego> jool and its moons are always fun
L66[06:32:49] <Mat2ch> no
L67[06:32:55] <Mat2ch> they ate my last mission :P
L68[06:33:00] <Althego> hehe
L69[06:33:53] <Althego> six is afraid of seven, because seven eight nine :)
L70[06:34:06] <Althego> doesnt work in writing
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L73[06:36:32] <Mat2ch> time for lunch!
L74[06:36:49] <Althego> launch is tomorrow :)
L75[06:37:09] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erfXf08tuFg
L76[06:37:10] <kmath> YouTube - Expedition 63 Launch to the International Space Station
L77[06:37:19] <Mat2ch> But but but, that's not spacex
L78[06:38:56] <Mat2ch> I wonder why ESA doesn't launch crewed soyuz from Kourou
L79[06:39:35] <Althego> probably administrative reason: the russians dont give it to them
L80[06:39:46] <Althego> only for the unmanned missions
L81[06:45:32] <Althego> actually esa writes they are open to the idea of manned launches, carefully avoiding the reason why it never happened
L82[06:45:41] <Althego> https://www.esa.int/Enabling_Support/Space_Transportation/Launch_vehicles/Soyuz
L83[06:46:43] <Mat2ch> well
L84[06:47:40] <Mat2ch> ESA has so much money, but just like the NASA they're stuck in bureaucracy and infighting
L85[06:48:07] <Mat2ch> after F9s success they still decided to build a throwaway rocket
L86[06:48:45] <Mat2ch> Oh, and what kind of people make those decisions? Yeah, babyboomers who grew up in a throw away culture... It hurts to watch
L87[06:55:43] <Mat2ch> I mean, Merlin 1D and Vulcain 2 have similar thrust. So why not just take 9 of them and just plainly copy the F9? I don't get it.
L88[06:56:08] <Mat2ch> and the add space rider to the mix as reusable upper stage
L89[06:56:31] <Mat2ch> I will never get why people are so short sighted to see the obvious
L90[07:03:50] <Azander> thw "why" is easy. They have been taught to.
L91[07:04:48] <Azander> The "expenable" rocket also means jobs going to their companies that put the elected people in charge
L92[07:07:38] <darsie> This was a tough to find easter egg: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot166.png
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L94[07:20:36] <Mat2ch> Azander: so Airbus SE is the reason then...
L95[07:21:02] <Mat2ch> darsie: you need a helicopter ;)
L96[07:31:26] <darsie> Mat2ch: I can parachute out and fly the plane back with a pod.
L97[07:31:55] <darsie> but now I can't land the plane. I thought I coudl before.
L98[07:32:14] <darsie> Always crashes the nose.
L99[07:32:58] <Mat2ch> Helicopters!
L100[07:33:11] <Mat2ch> Ospreys!
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L102[07:35:39] <Guest25841> He LOL doing this morning
L103[07:35:47] <darsie> Yay, I did it.
L104[07:36:07] <Guest25841> You did what I got in and ask no questions yet
L105[07:36:50] <Guest25841> Well what is a number I can give you a phone call at at this location
L106[07:38:19] <darsie> Guest25841: I landed my plane after many failed attempts.
L107[07:38:47] <darsie> Why do you want to call me?
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L121[09:26:00] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-PdPtqw78k
L122[09:26:00] <kmath> YouTube - How Boston Dynamics' Spot Robot Works!
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L141[11:43:40] <darsie> Althego: Spot is nice, but he didn't demonstrate a use case.
L142[11:45:06] <Althego> doesnt matter. spot and adam dancing right next to each other is awesome :)
L143[11:45:32] <darsie> :)
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L145[12:55:17] <Althego> things i want to know: how long is one kellicam in si units
L146[12:58:19] <snow> google suggest it's about 2km
L147[12:58:39] <snow> so given a bit of a rounding error, it's just a klingon nautical mile
L148[13:05:07] <Althego> hehe 1 martian nautical mile is almost a km
L149[13:13:40] <packbart> Beware of the Martian Navy
L150[13:13:48] <Althego> and the matian pirates
L151[13:14:01] <Althego> no, not matt damon
L152[13:14:08] <packbart> Arrr, earthlubbers
L153[13:14:38] <Althego> anyway i calculated the martian nautical mile to be 986 m
L154[13:14:59] <lordcirth> Is the nautical mile relative to lat and long?
L155[13:15:09] <lordcirth> So a smaller planet has a smaller mile?
L156[13:15:23] <Althego> one arc minute of latitude with the average radius
L157[13:16:06] <raptop> A natical mile is defined as 1852 m
L158[13:16:11] <Althego> on earth
L159[13:16:21] <raptop> No, it's defined in terms of the meter now
L160[13:16:22] <Althego> that is why i said martian nautical mile
L161[13:16:35] <Althego> yes it is defined as 1852 m because that is 1 arc minute
L162[13:16:51] <raptop> And by now, I mean 1929
L163[13:17:14] <Althego> so i took the 1 arc minute on mars. but my number may be slightly off
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L168[13:28:46] <darsie> To get to the many easter eggs on Kerbin I built a cheap little glider. To my surprise the basic aluminium fins survived reentry with radial out attitude. It glides pretty good, too. And wow, it even landed in water like a plane without taking damage: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot175.png http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot173.png http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot174.png
L169[13:29:13] <Althego> lol taht is tiny
L170[13:29:20] <darsie> yeah :)
L171[13:30:34] <darsie> All I want is a good screenshot of the easter eggs, so I called it 'anomaly crasher', trying to crash as close as possible. But it glides really good :).
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L173[13:31:07] <Althego> hehe
L174[13:32:20] <Althego> the great stuff is off kerbin
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L176[13:33:01] <darsie> Please tell me it's not all monoliths except the airport on the island.
L177[13:33:10] <Althego> hehe
L178[13:33:22] <Althego> no, there are a few monoliths
L179[13:33:32] <Althego> but there are many other things
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L181[13:34:07] <darsie> I mean, there's a list of 12 anomalies, and while I haven't read the descriptions, the paragraphs clearly had more to say than just 'monolith'.
L182[13:34:12] <raptop> Well, there's that saucer, and the inland space center
L183[13:34:23] <raptop> uh, also the desert ruins
L184[13:34:27] <darsie> TMI
L185[13:34:32] <darsie> :)
L186[13:34:55] <Althego> tut uhn jeb ahn or whatever its name is
L187[13:35:06] <raptop> yeah, also a ziggurat or 2
L188[13:35:31] <Althego> tut-un-jeb-ahn
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L193[13:55:56] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3CWGDhkmbs
L194[13:55:56] <kmath> YouTube - Rocket Lab | Mid-Air Recovery Demo
L195[13:56:35] <Althego> this really looks like it could work
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L203[15:08:23] <darsie> SPOILER WARNING! darsie glid to an anomaly on Kerbin: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot177.png
L204[15:10:20] <darsie> Took a few attempts to land there so I could time warp to daylight. Maybe a polar orbit at the terminator isn't ideal.
L205[15:10:39] <darsie> Just hitting the anomaly is much easier.
L206[15:13:46] <raptop> Comm network!
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L217[16:40:07] <darsie> SPOILER WARNING! darsie glid to an anomaly on Kerbin: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot179.png
L218[16:40:39] <darsie> Final approach with my glider got easier when I remembered that I have a rocket engine with fuel remaining :).
L219[16:41:40] <darsie> My orbital burn now takes Pe to -300 km to avoid burning up in the atmosphere.
L220[16:41:50] <darsie> deorbit burn*
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L224[16:55:10] <raptop> As long as it doesn't involve a ballistic flight into terrain
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L229[17:17:59] <KerboNerd> wot
L230[17:18:15] <KerboNerd> what even is this
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L234[17:19:49] <raptop> asdf
L235[17:19:56] <raptop> am I supposed to check every 30 seconds?
L236[17:21:23] <darsie> raptop: No, you're supposed to stare at this channel constantly. Do not blink!
L237[17:21:39] <raptop> <blink>right</blink>
L238[17:21:44] <darsie> :)
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L241[17:52:42] <JVFoxy> [blink] huh..? [/blink]
L242[17:55:29] <raptop> aaa, not bbcode
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L244[17:59:02] <JVFoxy> ;P
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L261[19:57:41] <Lewie> heyyo
L262[19:59:18] <raptop> hi, Lewie?
L263[20:00:00] <Lewie> hi
L264[20:00:02] <Mod9000> Hello, Lewie
L265[20:00:18] <Lewie> are there any players here that play on PS4?
L266[20:00:35] <Lewie> hi Mod9000
L267[20:00:36] <Mod9000> How are things?
L268[20:00:40] <Lewie> bot bad
L269[20:00:47] <Lewie> how are things with you?
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L272[20:07:18] <Lewie> I need some help
L273[20:07:43] <raptop> Afraid I only have the PC version, but depending on what the question is, we may still be able to help
L274[20:08:17] <Lewie> well ok
L275[20:08:55] <Lewie> y'all know that little box in the left corner that shows your pitch, yaw and roll with small orange arrows?
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L277[20:09:27] <raptop> yeah
L278[20:09:58] <raptop> well, pitch/yaw/roll inputs anyway
L279[20:10:14] <Lewie> well sometimes when I'm playing for a while pink arrows will pop up in those boxes with the orange ones.
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L281[20:11:36] <raptop> Not on the navball?
L282[20:11:56] <Lewie> and whenever I move the thumbstick, themovement will go towards the set pink marker. ea, if my pitch has a pink arrow in the top of it, No matter if I move my tumbstick up or down, the orange marker will move to the pink one, thus causing my craft to pitch up
L283[20:12:01] <Lewie> no on the navball
L284[20:12:18] <Lewie> not on the nav ball, sorry
L285[20:12:52] <Lewie> and I don't know how to get rid of them, so I will have to revert my flight that I have just put the last hour or so into.
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L287[20:16:17] <Lewie> sorry for rambaling
L288[20:17:11] <raptop> it's fine
L289[20:17:35] <Lewie> thanks
L290[20:17:47] <Lewie> does anyone else have this problem?
L291[20:17:58] <raptop> the pink arrow thing sounds like a revised trim UI. on a PC, I'd suggest hitting alt+x, but not sure what they are on the PS4
L292[20:19:31] <Lewie> maybe dinking around with the little circle things on the left of the nav ball could help? (sorry I don't know what it's called even though I often times use the retorgrade one for landings
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L294[20:29:18] <Lewie> what are those little badges that users have in the forum?
L295[20:30:45] <raptop> In signature blocks, or...?
L296[20:32:32] <Lewie> yea. That signature badge thingy
L297[20:35:35] <raptop> There are some from different competitions etc
L298[20:35:46] <raptop> well, more challenges than competitions
L299[20:35:58] <Lewie> huh
L300[20:36:02] <Lewie> thanks
L301[20:36:09] <Lewie> how do you enter those?
L302[20:37:01] <raptop> I'd start with https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/175449-heritage-challengesnew-thread-2-available-for-reboot/
L303[20:37:23] <Lewie> thanks
L304[20:37:27] <raptop> uh, lots are very voluntary (do the challenge yourself, post relevant screenshots in the relevant threads, add the images to your sig)
L305[20:38:05] <Lewie> ok
L306[20:38:26] <raptop> The 'circle things on the left of the navball' are various SAS modes. What's available depends on pilot skill and what sorts of probe cores are attached.
L307[20:38:28] <Lewie> I won't be able to post screen shots though. I play on console. :(
L308[20:38:46] <Lewie> ohh thank you that's incredibly useful to know
L309[20:38:52] <raptop> I thought modern ones had a screenshot/share button?
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L311[20:38:58] <Lewie> they do
L312[20:39:13] <Lewie> but I don't know how to add those to the forum
L313[20:39:22] <raptop> hrm
L314[20:39:35] <Lewie> yea
L315[20:42:41] <Lewie> hey, does anyone know the amount of delta v required for a duna trip and the transfer window? the only way I can intrept those are by degrees(for me the mun transfer window is 90, so when the mun is 45 degress to my right I burn till I get an encounter)
L316[20:43:35] <raptop> There's a ΔV map in the /topic
L317[20:43:49] <Lewie> ok
L318[20:44:06] <raptop> https://i.imgur.com/gBoLsSt.png
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L320[20:45:48] <raptop> oh, good, https://ksp.olex.biz/ and https://alexmoon.github.io/ksp/ are still around
L321[20:46:05] <Lewie> thanks that's really helpfull
L322[20:46:07] <raptop> What I recall for Duna is that you want it to be 44 degrees ahead of kerbin give or take
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L324[20:46:48] <Lewie> thanks man
L325[20:51:17] <Lewie> so when Duna is 44 degrees ahead ish I burn till my aproispis interscets with Duna's orbit?
L326[20:52:55] <raptop> yeah. Though it would also be worth finding a maneuver node tutorial
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L328[20:53:07] <Lewie> ok
L329[20:53:08] <Lewie> thanks
L330[20:54:34] <raptop> Are you playing in campaign mode? Because if so, it's worth upgrading the tracking station to unlock patched conics
L331[20:55:42] <Lewie> nah. I play in sandbox for the time being just so I can practice and get good(ish) at the game
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L333[20:56:03] <Lewie> and not screw things up
L334[20:56:07] <raptop> Fair enough
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L336[20:57:02] <Lewie> yea
L337[20:57:20] <Lewie> so far I'm only able to get to the mun and back
L338[20:57:26] <Lewie> so yeah.
L339[20:58:10] <FLHerne> That's a step up from the "get to the Mun and crash into it, killing Jeb" that I was stuck on for a while :P
L340[20:58:20] <raptop> hah
L341[20:58:37] <raptop> Oh, uh, watch out for Ike
L342[20:58:56] <raptop> (We may be going over the magic of course corrections soon, depending on how the initial Duna trips pan out)
L343[20:59:05] <Lewie> well...I killed Jeb roughly 12 times on my first Mun shot...thank the kraken for quicksave
L344[21:00:46] <raptop> Good thing kerbals respawn by default
L345[21:00:56] <raptop> (And of course, there's an endless supply of graysuits)
L346[21:01:24] <Lewie> nice bro. You a fellow Trekkie?
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L350[21:04:44] <raptop> apparently I was tabbed out for too long
L351[21:05:39] <raptop> (Incidentally, Abrams killed Star Trek for me, so...)
L352[21:12:24] <FLHerne> Eh. Into Darkness was awful, the others were silly but fun IMO
L353[21:12:31] <FLHerne> Not especially Trek-like though
L354[21:13:39] <raptop> (Note that he did not make the 3rd reboot movie, which I'd call silly but good)
L355[21:14:01] <raptop> Also, I only saw that one because I was at a friend's house, and he insisted that it was worth watching <_<
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