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L59[10:53:18] <hatrix> "Check yo staging" https://imgur.com/a/ObpWkEJ
L60[10:55:09] <darsie> No nose cones on bosters.
L61[10:55:12] <darsie> o
L62[10:55:58] <hatrix> there https://i.imgur.com/ah6zQcb.png
L63[10:56:08] <darsie> :)
L64[11:05:13] <Althego> if the boosters are on for a host time you can neglect those cones
L65[11:05:22] <Althego> lol the big cones
L66[11:06:22] <darsie> host time?
L67[11:06:29] <Flayer> short
L68[11:06:35] <Althego> lol
L69[11:06:37] <Flayer> but his brain malfunctioned
L70[11:06:52] <Flayer> funny thing is i can imagine exactly how that happened
L71[11:06:54] <Althego> i have been fighting against huge system loads on a host for a while now, must be because of that
L72[11:07:02] <darsie> Yeah, subsonic you can do without caps.
L73[11:07:07] <Althego> seems that the 5.4 kernel solved it
L74[11:15:14] <hatrix> I don't understand the encounter I get https://i.imgur.com/N0O1blK.png
L75[11:15:23] <hatrix> why is it _there_ on the right?
L76[11:15:35] <hatrix> the periapsis was close to the encounter before
L77[11:16:46] <TheKosmonaut> "What will you do now that you have KSP installed on a computer that doesnt crash 1/2 the time you boot it up?" ... Me: Hmmmmmm https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/7uOmrZua/screenshot1.png
L78[11:17:30] <TheKosmonaut> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/FCj44dAM/screenshot3.png
L79[11:18:38] <TheKosmonaut> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/qpfRJfZc/screenshot2.png
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L82[11:38:51] <hatrix> oh ok that's a conic patch limit or something
L83[11:38:56] <hatrix> when I focus the mun it's ok again
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L85[11:58:40] <Fluburtur> https://youtu.be/50NZ0MPcbXk
L86[11:58:41] <kmath> YouTube - Spiraling down
L87[11:58:41] <Fluburtur> Mat2ch Althego
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L108[13:23:34] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: :(
L109[13:23:58] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: it'd like say some swear words
L110[13:31:29] <Fluburtur> me too
L111[13:31:29] <Fluburtur> but I will take this as an occasion to build a new plane
L112[13:31:29] <Fluburtur> unless I decide to order another of the same model because damn, are they strong
L113[13:34:15] <JVFoxy> sorry, waking up still, whats causing you problems?
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L115[13:35:23] <kubi> why did it decide to go down like a corkscrew?
L116[13:36:03] <Mat2ch> kubi: JVFoxy: The video says: Bad gps downlink so the plane decided to land itself
L117[13:36:13] <kubi> yes
L118[13:36:19] <JVFoxy> .. RL or in game?
L119[13:36:29] <kubi> but is should have some better logic
L120[13:38:35] <JVFoxy> Mat2ch: sorry guess I missed link to video or something?
L121[13:38:46] <kubi> yes, you did
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L123[13:42:28] <JVFoxy> ... fun
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L127[14:09:00] <Mat2ch> JVFoxy: https://youtu.be/50NZ0MPcbXk
L128[14:09:00] <kmath> YouTube - Spiraling down
L129[14:10:15] <JVFoxy> ooooh
L130[14:14:35] <Mat2ch> yeah, needs a parachute
L131[14:14:37] <JVFoxy> and ouch... ya, really hate when electronics things it knows better than you and you have to fight back control :(
L132[14:15:24] <JVFoxy> sometimes end up recalling back to that one flight with an airbus ages ago. Pilot's tried landing but decided to wave it off. Computer forced the plane down anyways and it ran into trees
L133[14:15:56] <kubi> what controller do you use?
L134[14:16:11] <kubi> in my quadcopter, I have ardupilot
L135[14:16:37] <Fluburtur> matek f411 wing with inav
L136[14:16:42] <kubi> lso, some better antenna design would be needed
L137[14:17:31] <JVFoxy> oh here.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_296
L138[14:17:52] <JVFoxy> was a low flyby.. computer thought they were landing, forced plane down into trees, which wasn't marked on map pilots were given
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L140[14:31:31] <Fluburtur> I actually had an issue with the control link, if I just let it land itself it would maybe have been fine
L141[14:31:38] <Fluburtur> the antenna was obstructed by the battery under certain angles
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L144[14:46:43] <Althego> hehe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73jJLspL8o8
L145[14:46:43] <kmath> YouTube - Misirlou - Les Fo'Plafonds
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L149[15:34:16] <hatrix> lol https://i.imgur.com/tdqxzF1.png
L150[15:34:20] <hatrix> what kind of mission is that
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L153[16:05:38] <darsie> dunno
L154[16:05:55] <darsie> pretty intense
L155[16:06:12] <darsie> Maybe attach it with a Klaw.
L156[16:06:14] <darsie> hatrix:
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L159[16:15:54] <hatrix> yeah, it's still hard
L160[16:16:05] <hatrix> I'm happy with landing bases in Eve right now
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L162[16:24:05] <darsie> Found an asteroid station contract. Testing it ...
L163[16:24:21] <darsie> just Klaw it and see if the requirement is fulfilled.
L164[16:25:31] <hatrix> I'm puting an base in orbit of Ike, I don't know how but I'm getting better at making rockets without too many boosters now https://i.imgur.com/6Mq3RZf.png
L165[16:25:44] <darsie> hatrix: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot106.png
L166[16:26:07] <hatrix> ouch
L167[16:26:30] <hatrix> do the contract cover the cost of the 3 scientists?
L168[16:32:49] <hatrix> not checking that your TWR is >1, √
L169[16:32:49] <darsie> Scientists are for free, if you rescue them from orbit.
L170[16:32:49] <hatrix> https://i.imgur.com/pETDDiB.png
L171[16:32:59] <darsie> But I'm not doing the full contract.
L172[16:33:50] <darsie> Also I have lots of money.
L173[16:34:02] <hatrix> must be convenient :)
L174[16:34:29] <darsie> Yeah. I don't worry about that.
L175[16:34:48] <hatrix> I've got 1,400,000
L176[16:36:08] <darsie> 13 MVF here
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L182[17:07:32] <Neal> mistakes were made
L183[17:07:44] <Neal> tylo has a lot more gravity than I expected
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L185[17:08:26] <Neal> came in with a vehicle that can accelerate at about 6.5 m/s^2, but right now its experiencing gravity at 7.4m/s^2
L186[17:08:36] <Neal> needless to say not ideal
L187[17:09:14] <Neal> rip
L188[17:09:21] <darsie> Neal: At low fuel?
L189[17:10:09] <Neal> mid fuel level I get a twr of 1.0
L190[17:10:16] <Neal> but that's as I'm impacting
L191[17:10:17] <Neal> so
L192[17:10:43] * Neal pauses stream
L193[17:11:24] <Neal> wow somehow we've found ourselves in orbit around Vall. How amazing that a random glitch in the matrix has placed us above a body with less gravity
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L196[17:36:57] <UmbralRaptop> what a weird coincidence
L197[17:38:19] <darsie> hatrix: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot107.png
L198[17:38:47] <darsie> Neal: You could waste some fuel.
L199[17:39:12] <Neal> wouldn't have enough dV to land then
L200[17:39:17] <darsie> k
L201[17:39:47] <hatrix> ah nice darsie
L202[17:45:56] <darsie> Neal: You could try with a low Pe and a higher Ap. But it's probably hopeless.
L203[17:46:08] <Neal> yeah there was no way out
L204[17:46:18] <Neal> I was already on a landing trajectory
L205[17:46:26] <Neal> in my quicksave
L206[17:46:31] <Flayer> shoulda just crashed
L207[17:46:41] <Flayer> like a MAN
L208[17:46:44] <darsie> Neal: Dated quicksaves mod saves you there.
L209[17:47:08] <Flayer> or just loading the persistent file
L210[17:47:22] <Neal> persistent file got written over
L211[17:48:55] <darsie> Jetpack is 3 m/s, so that wouldn't have helped, either, if you tried to land a Kerbal.
L212[17:49:06] <darsie> 3 m/s^2
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L215[18:05:50] <hatrix> is it useful to have a mobile processing lab landed and then bringing it back?
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L217[18:06:09] <hatrix> or can I avoid having one if I'm bringing back the data?
L218[18:16:26] <Neal> I belive you accumulate science over time just having it in orbit around a place
L219[18:16:41] <Neal> you get more science if you use a mpl
L220[18:18:06] <hatrix> ok so I'm definitely landing one
L221[18:18:06] <hatrix> I want that kerbal back
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L225[18:25:45] <darsie> hatrix: https://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Mobile_Processing_Lab_MPL-LG-2
L226[18:26:11] <darsie> You process data in the lab and get science, which you transmit.
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L228[18:27:00] <darsie> No need to bring teh lab back.
L229[18:33:27] <hatrix> it's an easier design to bring it back
L230[18:33:56] <hatrix> yep I know that darsie, I'm just wondering why we can't process at Kerbin if everything is brought back?
L231[18:35:08] <darsie> hatrix: There are bonuses/minuses depending where you process the data.
L232[18:35:30] <darsie> maluses?
L233[18:35:42] <hatrix> oh, ok
L234[18:35:48] <darsie> But sure, you could.
L235[18:36:16] <darsie> You'd need to calculate how much data you need for your needs.
L236[18:37:19] <darsie> I typically go to Minmus with all sensors I have and collect data from different biomes till the tech tree is complete.
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L247[20:22:40] <hatrix> https://i.imgur.com/dlsm0iN.png :)
L248[20:22:59] <hatrix> unintentional swastika though
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L269[21:49:20] <darsie> Ike
L270[21:51:29] <hatrix> well, that's the only place you can see Duna like that :p
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