OCLogs: 2020-03-05.log

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L25[02:48:46] <Black_Eagle> what could one do with 1970 m/s dV...

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L28[02:55:47] <Mat2ch> Black_Eagle: go to Jool

L29[02:58:26] <Black_Eagle> AND BACK?

L30[02:58:29] <Black_Eagle> sorry caps

L31[03:00:13] <Mat2ch> If you do enough gravity assists it should be possible :D

L32[03:09:17] <Black_Eagle> heh :P

L33[03:09:59] <Black_Eagle> my SSTO planes always end up with 1500-3000 m/s dV and it's barely not enough for a Mun landing, with my skills at least

L34[03:10:05] <Black_Eagle> 3000 that is

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L36[03:25:29] <hatrix> at least you've got a plane

L37[03:25:51] <hatrix> I've never made one and I'm not sure I ever will

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L40[03:29:03] <Mat2ch> hatrix: oh, planes are easy

L41[03:29:55] <Mat2ch> hatrix: https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/47818-basic-aircraft-design-explained-simply-with-pictures/

L42[03:29:58] <Mat2ch> all you need to know!

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L44[03:40:53] <hatrix> oh thanks

L45[03:41:01] <hatrix> I just don't see the point in making planes

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L48[03:48:57] <hatrix> what do you use them for?

L49[03:49:31] <Black_Eagle> i use them for shuttling between my kerbin orbital station and kerbin

L50[03:49:35] <Black_Eagle> super cheap and efficient

L51[03:50:09] <hatrix> why do you need to do that though?

L52[03:50:22] <Black_Eagle> kerbals, refuel

L53[03:50:30] <hatrix> if there were contracts to send scientists in the station yeah sure

L54[03:53:22] <Black_Eagle> don't use them then

L55[03:53:33] <Black_Eagle> also i think it's fun to design and fly them

L56[03:54:58] <hatrix> maybe I just need to try then :)

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L59[04:36:30] <Mat2ch> hatrix: I use them just for the fun of it

L60[04:37:21] <hatrix> that's a perfectly good reason to me

L61[04:44:29] <Mat2ch> It's quiet satisfying to fly something into space.

L62[04:44:48] <Mat2ch> To build something that works on such close margins

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L67[07:10:42] <Black_Eagle> well, now i have bouncy landing gear

L68[07:10:47] <Black_Eagle> man i sometimes hate ksp

L69[07:15:52] <Mat2ch> :D

L70[07:16:03] <Mat2ch> Reduce the spring tension

L71[07:16:23] <Althego> isnt there a dampening value too?

L72[07:16:33] <Althego> a correct gear should contain a spring and a shock dampener

L73[07:16:39] <Althego> the two are not exchangeable

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L76[07:28:59] <Mat2ch> yes

L77[07:29:13] <Mat2ch> spring tension down, dampening value up

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L86[08:27:33] * darsie tries to rescue a Kerbal by waking him up with a flyby with the Duna relay, jetpacking to Kerbin flyby, and capturing him.

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L89[08:49:28] <Black_Eagle> ok, got a little over 4000 m/s dV in orbit now

L90[08:49:35] <Black_Eagle> that should be enough for a landing on Mun

L91[08:51:18] <hatrix> that's more than enough to go almost everywhere :p

L92[08:52:37] <packbart> yeah, I calculate about 3k for it. 900 for the transfer burn, 300 for circularizing at the Mun. 800 to land, 600 to ascend, 300 to get back to a return orbit into Kerbin's atmosphere

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L94[08:57:05] <darsie> Could do a little biome hopping. Perhaps you can find a triple border with skynet.

L95[08:57:09] <darsie> umm ... Kerbnet.

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L97[09:32:28] <darsie> 592 m/s from LDO to Kerbin encounter.

L98[09:37:16] <hatrix> I always forget duna is so close

L99[09:37:38] <Althego> so close. it just takes months to get there :)

L100[09:38:13] <hatrix> what's usually the next step after Eve? I'll do some science missions on Gilly but that's quite easy to land and get back

L101[09:38:35] <Mat2ch> Jool...

L102[09:38:36] <packbart> Dres ;)

L103[09:38:38] <Althego> you could go to dres, but nobody ever goes there :)

L104[09:38:44] <Mat2ch> But pack enough fuel

L105[09:38:44] <hatrix> ahah why?

L106[09:39:08] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GXFzMnCWBs

L107[09:39:08] <kmath> YouTube - Kerbal Space Program - Why You Never Visit Dres

L108[09:39:11] <packbart> Dres got new textures

L109[09:39:38] <hatrix> I'm still in 1.8

L110[09:39:42] <Althego> just as most planets now

L111[09:39:47] <hatrix> but I'll be reinstalling my OS tonight, maybe I'll update KSP

L112[09:40:16] <Althego> hehe the sad face of the kerbal on eve :)

L113[09:41:04] * darsie downgraded to 1.7.3.

L114[09:43:19] <hatrix> I'll make a fucking base on Dres

L115[09:43:26] <hatrix> this rock is going to be happy to have some visitors

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L117[09:43:39] <Althego> dont say that

L118[09:43:53] <hatrix> a docking base

L119[09:43:55] <hatrix> typo

L120[09:43:59] <Althego> hehe

L121[09:44:28] <darsie> A pleasure base.

L122[09:47:20] <hatrix> ok so Kerbin -> Dres -> Kerbin would need some refueling somewhere

L123[09:47:27] <Althego> hehe martin and the marble beats

L124[09:47:28] <hatrix> unless nuclear engines

L125[09:47:48] <hatrix> I'm look at a 10k Δv though

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L127[09:50:21] <Mat2ch> Just build a huge ships with multiple types of engines, so you can land the whole thing on Dres. :D

L128[09:50:34] <Mat2ch> and be efficient as well

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L130[09:55:34] <darsie> 543.3 m/s from LDO to Kerbin encounter with Ike gravity assist.

L131[09:57:08] <darsie> plus plane change

L132[09:57:44] <Althego> that is very nice

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L142[10:49:24] <TheKosmonaut> hatrix: you have violated the law. Pay a fine or face my blade.

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L144[10:49:47] <TheKosmonaut> But please, don’t use bad language

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L146[11:04:19] <kubi> is english a bad language?

L147[11:04:51] <Althego> no, but ada is

L148[11:05:22] <hatrix> sorry TheKosmonaut, I get emotional rather quickly :|

L149[11:05:42] <hatrix> can I pay in toblerone though?

L150[11:06:04] <packbart> you need a V-Chip

L151[11:07:35] <packbart> oh, I didn't even know there was a real-world version. "In the real world, a V-chip refers to any technology which is installed in a television set that allows parents to monitor and censor programs based on their rating."

L152[11:34:01] <Althego> hehehe... why is it tuna fish, but not beef mammal or chicken bird? :)

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L155[11:38:12] <UmbralRaptop> ginea fowl

L156[11:39:54] <Mat2ch> Althego: maybe there'S a tuna cat and if you only say tuna nobody knows what you exactly mean. ;)

L157[11:51:47] <packbart> according to my internets, because "tuna" is descriptive, meaning "rush, dart along". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuna#Etymology

L158[11:52:13] <Althego> these silly questions came from the ufd tech yt channel

L159[11:52:43] <Althego> some of the previous ones were, are eyebrows facial hair and is cereal soup

L160[11:52:48] <Althego> i think it is not a soup

L161[11:52:56] <Althego> i am not sure about eyebrows

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L169[12:10:13] <packbart> cereal is just entropy-reduced flour soup

L170[12:10:30] <raptop> high entropy breakfasts

L171[12:10:34] * raptop eyes coffee

L172[12:14:24] <Althego> the bed is getting more interesting by the minute

L173[12:17:07] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zni3MLBHDaY

L174[12:17:08] <kmath> YouTube - Mars Rover 2020's Name Reveal

L175[12:17:11] <Althego> finally

L176[12:17:32] <Althego> i was getting fed up with the temporary 2020 name

L177[12:18:20] <raptop> ...and the name is?

L178[12:18:34] <Althego> we will know in 15 minutes or so

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L180[12:20:44] <raptop> stabbity

L181[12:21:31] <Mat2ch> Name reveal party! It's a... rover!

L182[12:21:33] <Mat2ch> Yay!

L183[12:21:44] <Mat2ch> Now balloons for everyone!

L184[12:23:08] <raptop> gender reveal laser

L185[12:23:19] <Althego> lol

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L187[12:36:57] <Althego> they really made a show out of it

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L189[12:39:57] <Mat2ch> and 7000 people watching

L190[12:40:01] <Mat2ch> nerds united or so. :D

L191[12:40:10] <Althego> not too many

L192[12:40:28] <Althego> perseverence

L193[12:40:42] <Althego> or rather perseverance

L194[12:40:49] <Mat2ch> The QI guy yay

L195[12:41:01] <Mat2ch> I seem to lag behind for a few 10 seconds

L196[12:41:05] <Mat2ch> eh

L197[12:41:18] <Althego> but you are closer :)

L199[12:42:06] <Mat2ch> The QI guy says that the newest reactionless drives produces thrust and in range he calculated... hrm. I'd like to see this as a paper

L200[12:42:15] <Mat2ch> lol

L201[12:42:27] <Mat2ch> just after the name dropped the stream lost 1000 viewers. :D

L202[12:42:55] <UmbralRaptop> if it gets posted to vixra…

L203[12:43:30] <Mat2ch> well, it's not him this time writing the paper, but some people with a bit more reputation.

L204[12:49:49] <Mat2ch> and the more interesting part is, if it's true, what it would tell about our universe. And maybe about how we could go faster than the speed of light ;P

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L207[12:53:46] <Mat2ch> I mean, reactionless drives are a nice thing, but you still need ages to get anywhere (also the thrust they get is very small. 100 nN right now. And that's why they are very careful not to jump the gun here, because there could be different explanations)

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L213[12:59:14] <Althego> lol rovie

L214[12:59:28] <Althego> a small version

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L222[14:23:57] <raptop> Hm, MOLEK-SYNTEZ is 50% off

L223[14:24:23] <raptop> er, on steam

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L232[16:23:47] * darsie jetpacked from LDO to a good Kerbin encounter with 52 m/s left.

L233[16:24:10] <darsie> Building a capture rocket.

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L243[18:02:53] <UmbralRaptop> note to self: a single misplaced } does weird things to irssi's config

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L246[19:52:12] <darsie> The Duna relay flew by Munvey Kerman and told him he hat to jetpack from LDO to Kerbin. There he rendezvoused with a rescue rocket who decelerated him and dropped him off at the orbital station where he refuelled his jetpack and deorbited, making a bad parachute landing at the runway.

L247[19:53:19] <darsie> had*

L248[19:53:41] <darsie> Oh, he used an Ike gravity assist.

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L259[21:18:35] <transit> Hoi

L260[21:21:23] <Althego> a-hoi :)

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L262[21:31:11] <darsie> .

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L264[21:34:19] <Althego> ·

L265[21:39:17] <JVFoxy> yo

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