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L16[02:25:41] <hatrix> wat, ksp crashed
:(
L17[02:28:53] <darsie> never. You must be
using mods ;).
L18[02:29:16] <hatrix> first stack trace
ever and no mods
L19[02:46:56] <packbart> too much RAM
;)
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L22[03:18:11] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: so,
you're building edfs now? ;)
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L41[06:55:26] <Fluburtur> thats no
edf
L42[06:55:27] <Fluburtur> it is a mixed
flow compressor
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L44[07:07:15] <Mat2ch> What's it for?
L45[07:07:48] <Mat2ch> I hope it's rocket
engines, but...
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L47[07:31:45] <transit> Power out ?♂️
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L50[07:39:42] <transit> It still has me on
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L52[07:44:22] <hatrix> how can I fix Δv
calculations in the VAB?
L53[07:44:40] <hatrix> sometimes it shows
15 000m/s, sometimes 3 000 for the same staging and parts
L54[07:46:51] <Mat2ch> Uh, use KER?
*hides*
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L56[07:58:55] <transit> Bwoop
L57[07:59:08] <transit> Power back on
yay
L58[07:59:12] <transit> Bbl
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L60[08:01:33] <Mat2ch> and power off
again
L61[08:01:43] <Mat2ch> transit needs a
powerwall ;P
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L69[08:50:51] <packbart> hatrix: the dV
calculations also depend on which part is the root. large values
could mean that your last stage is just a fuel tank with an
engine
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L72[09:33:12] <hatrix> ah
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L85[11:00:46] <Althego> why is this
character there? ?
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L90[11:20:43] <UmbralRaptop> In Unicode? I
don't know, so I'm going to blame Japan
L91[11:21:02] <Althego> no, in the
topic
L92[11:21:15] <Althego> why did oyu need to
replace the v
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L94[11:42:28] <UmbralRaptop> there was a
complaint about it being ΔV rather than Δv
L95[11:42:43] <UmbralRaptop> so I was
silly
L97[11:54:56] <Althego> hehe
L98[12:00:11] <Mat2ch> UmbralRaptop: being
silly doesn't always mean being funny
L99[12:00:13] <Mat2ch> just so you
know
L100[12:00:15] <Mat2ch> ;)
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L104[13:23:00] <Althego> but i am going to
sleep by that time
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L112[14:06:24] <hatrix> never been to Eve,
do I need heatshields for this one?
L113[14:07:02] <kubi> nah, just lots of
fuel and strong rocket
L114[14:07:09] <Althego> hehe
L115[14:07:20] <Althego> you need the
biggest heatshield you can pack
L116[14:07:28] <Althego> big as in
thick
L117[14:07:55] <darsie> hatrix: I used
heavy entry burning.
L118[14:07:56] <Althego> the inflatable is
recommended
L119[14:08:18] <darsie> Landed, took
surface sample, refuelled, flew home. Easy as pi :).
L120[14:08:38] <darsie> BTW, heat is less
at 4x physics warp.
L121[14:08:38] <Althego> cxurrent eve is
not as hard as it used to be
L122[14:08:38] <hatrix> with Duna some
engines and parachutes was quite enough, but I'm reading Eve's
atmosphere is ultra dense
L123[14:08:53] <darsie> It is. Parachutes
are very effective there.
L124[14:08:54] <Althego> dense and
hot
L125[14:09:18] <Althego> the problem is to
slow down in time before you hit the really dense parts
L126[14:09:32] <darsie> I refuelled at
Gilly.
L127[14:09:39] <darsie> And in LKO.
L128[14:09:48] <hatrix> so parachutes
deploy at highest altitude possible I guess ?
L129[14:10:04] <Althego> no, you would
burn and explode before that
L130[14:10:05] <hatrix> or will the
atmosphere slow the craft enough I can wait?
L131[14:10:07] <darsie> No, deploy
low.
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L133[14:10:23] <darsie> It will explode if
you don't have heat shield or massive entry burn.
L134[14:10:54] <hatrix> It looks crazy
hard to try to get back home though
L135[14:10:59] <darsie> It is.
L136[14:11:06] <Althego> as i said it is
not as hard as it used to be
L137[14:11:11] <darsie> You need the best
you can think of.
L138[14:11:18] <Althego> now what, around
8j m/s to orbit from sea lkevel?
L139[14:11:22] <Althego> 8k
L140[14:11:28] <hatrix> 8k is still a
lot
L141[14:11:29] <darsie> Sea level is
hard.
L142[14:11:39] <Althego> used to be over
12k
L143[14:11:52] <hatrix> I'll stick with a
probe landing I guess
L144[14:12:00] <hatrix> or expandable
kerbals
L145[14:12:02] <Althego> i say it is
easier to build a 8k rocket than to land on a mountain top far from
the equator
L146[14:12:41] <Althego> also now you have
the eelctric props, so you can fly up to kerbin sea level pressure
with them
L147[14:12:44] <Althego> i never triedt
hat though
L148[14:13:09] <Althego> oh i didnt
mention, only a few engines work on eve
L149[14:13:15] <Althego> pressure goes up
to 5 atm
L150[14:15:21] <hatrix> I'll finish my Ike
mission and try that
L151[14:15:55] <hatrix> I'd like to unlock
the super heavy engines and tanks
L152[14:16:09] <Althego> mainsail and
vector are amongs the ones that work
L153[14:16:21] <Althego> although with
greatly reduced thrust
L154[14:17:03] <darsie> hatrix: If you
expand the Kerbals enough they will float. :)
L155[14:19:46] <hatrix> also I got a
design problem, my rockets bases are always too heavy compared to
the last stages, the rocket often flips
L156[14:19:53] <hatrix> how do you manage
to get more weight up?
L157[14:20:10] <Althego> you dont?
L158[14:20:23] <Althego> add more control
at the bottom
L159[14:20:37] <Althego> vectoring engines
or fins work fine
L160[14:20:39] <hatrix> I have already way
too many fins :/
L161[14:21:26] <hatrix> the rocket often
flips around max q (just after being supersonic)
L162[14:36:27] <packbart> use F12(?) for
the atmospheric overlay. long red spikes are not good, same with
large blue at the top of the rocket
L163[14:36:55] <hatrix> I do have a lot of
red at the top of the rocket
L164[14:37:06] <Althego> well, that is the
probllem
L165[14:37:38] <hatrix> I figured it out
:p
L166[14:38:26] <Althego> hehe, portland
has a "hpstr" waypoint
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L175[15:53:50] <Flayer> remind me never to
send up a refuel station without wheels again
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L177[16:05:27] <packbart> Mmmmhh. Kraken
bait on a heavy fuel station
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L179[16:22:07] <Flayer> sigh
L180[16:22:49] <Flayer> its so hard to
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L182[16:28:51] <Fluburtur> turns out, im
trying to make a jet engine
L183[16:28:53] <Fluburtur> nah, maybe a rc
plane jet
L184[16:28:55] <Fluburtur> but this wont
be for now
L186[16:37:13] <darsie> repost
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L189[16:39:16] <darsie> I wish the bedrock
were deeper, so the drill wouldn't push the refinery up.
L190[16:39:36] <darsie> It's a drill
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L192[16:49:22] <packbart> maybe it's a
Mole
L193[16:53:01] <Fluburtur> will take a
while to work out everything
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