L26[06:09:23] <packbart> it's a Christmas Wonderland https://camo.githubusercontent.com/e9ddffe8dbaaca99dd25b70c9e47ef5cf5d8d7b7/68747470733a2f2f63646e2e646973636f72646170702e636f6d2f6174746163686d656e74732f3334353238323931303932363134333439382f3635393132353530393833333335393337372f756e6b6e6f776e2e706e67

L27[06:09:29] <packbart> ( https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/190602-173-the-christmas-planet/ )

L28[06:09:34] <packbart> weird image URL

L30[06:53:12] <Flayer> well, i've gotten to the point where i can lift off in a 'helicopter'

L31[06:55:59] <Flayer> i can do small hops... sometimes.

L32[06:56:28] <Althego> that is exactly what jpl can do... on mars

L33[07:13:02] <darsie> :)

L34[07:13:08] <darsie> In theory :).

L35[07:13:32] <darsie> Or shall I say hypothetically?

L36[07:13:50] <Althego> we shall see... in 2021

L38[07:19:41] <GlassYuri> packbart, that looks somewhat ...unsettling

L39[07:19:49] <GlassYuri> also why are there trees on the water

L41[07:27:04] <darsie> Hmm, I could make a Duna helicopter ...

L42[07:31:04] <Althego> it is hard to even make a duna plane

L43[07:31:09] <Althego> believe me, i tried

L44[07:31:21] <darsie> I made a Duna lander glider.

L45[07:31:23] <Althego> needed many props to have enough thrust go generate enough lift on a huge wing

L46[07:31:32] <Althego> but that is for gliding

L47[07:31:38] <darsie> mhm

L48[07:32:13] <darsie> Issue was getting landing speed low enough to not break up. I settled for landing uphill.

L49[07:33:57] <Althego> drogue chutes

L50[07:34:15] <Althego> or rather biggest chute you can find, they stop you isntantly

L51[07:35:42] <darsie> Ok, but then I could just use a chute without a glider.

L52[07:39:53] <Althego> that decreases your landing precision

L53[07:40:08] <darsie> 1

L54[07:40:08] <Althego> also landing purely on chutes on dna is not efficient

L55[07:40:24] <darsie> Yeah, needs a landing burn.

L57[08:35:51] <darsie> Hmm, I should be able to test a Duna helicopter in Kerbin's high atmosphere.

L58[08:37:12] <darsie> Hmm, different gravity.

L59[08:42:44] <Althego> drcrease mass

L61[09:16:05] <darsie> My helicopter levelled out at 486.8 Pa, so it would definitely fly on Duna (6755 Pa). http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot106.png

L62[09:16:30] <darsie> Unfortunately it doesn't fly stably when tilted.

L63[09:26:17] <Flayer> hmm i have 37 science reports after transmitting

L64[09:26:46] <Flayer> i could do one more run to the surface, but i'm not sure i'll have enough to bring the lander back to the mun station

L65[09:29:47] <darsie> Minmus?

L66[09:30:10] <Flayer> yes

L67[09:30:16] <darsie> Why bring it back?

L68[09:30:47] <Flayer> its part of the mission

L69[09:30:55] <darsie> Contract?

L70[09:31:39] <Althego> A contract is a contract is a contract (but only between Ferengi).

L71[09:31:51] <darsie> I only ever saw contracts to bring someone/something back to Kerbin.

L72[09:32:13] <darsie> What's the reason for bringing it to Mun?

L73[09:32:37] <Flayer> to do more mun landings

L74[09:32:51] <darsie> hmm

L75[09:33:01] <darsie> Why?

L76[09:33:08] <darsie> For fun?

L77[09:33:11] <Flayer> sure

L78[09:33:13] <darsie> k

L79[09:33:29] <darsie> So not to increase XP of crew, or for science.

L80[09:33:36] <Flayer> also that

L81[09:33:39] <darsie> ok

L82[09:34:19] <darsie> You can jetpack from Minmus to LKO.

L84[09:34:32] <darsie> With careful aerobraking.

L85[09:35:16] <darsie> And taking science stored in a capsule, I think.

L86[09:47:16] <darsie> Is there roll trim?

L87[09:47:31] <Althego> in all directions

L88[09:47:47] <darsie> Didn't work for me. Had to stick E.

L89[09:47:57] <Althego> mod + direction. mod + x to turn off all trim

L90[09:48:11] <darsie> mhm

L91[09:48:30] <Althego> direction as in wasdqe

L92[09:49:32] <darsie> gotta try again

L93[09:51:57] <Althego> it moves rather slowly

L94[09:52:04] <Althego> so you hve to hold it for awxonds

L95[09:52:06] <Althego> seconds

L96[10:00:16] <Althego> wait, it is wednesday. wintergatan

L97[10:00:31] <Althego> there is something

L98[10:00:48] <darsie> It's Wednesday in Austria.

L99[10:01:03] <darsie> Maybe not in Japan.

L100[10:02:52] <Althego> just what is an ondophone

L101[10:03:04] <darsie> dunno

L102[10:03:10] <darsie> duck it

L103[10:03:16] <Althego> well it is in the video

L104[10:04:10] <darsie> In both the United States and France this led to a small market of receiver lines designed geared for jewelers who needed accurate time to set their clocks, including the Ondophone in France,[6] and the De Forest RS-100 Jewelers Time Receiver in the United States[7] The ability to pick up time signal broadcasts, in addition to Morse code weather reports and news summaries, also attracted the interest of amateur radio enthusiasts.

L105[10:04:21] <darsie> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AM_broadcasting

L106[10:05:03] <Flayer> i can't eva home afaik because i can only carry one snack

L107[10:05:26] <darsie> Oh, you need to eat :).

L108[10:07:06] <Althego> so he mixed two obscure instruments, and called it like this

L109[10:08:31] <darsie> https://earlyradiohistory.us/1914ondo.htm

L110[10:09:01] <Althego> since he is building this instrumen now, it does not have a wiki page

L124[12:09:44] <Guest79241> irc for a game!

L125[12:09:48] <Guest79241> thats cool

L126[12:09:56] <Althego> hehe

L127[12:10:38] <Althego> then nothing happens for hours

L130[12:33:40] <Guest79241> :P