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L21[04:41:46] <Althego> hehe i love to see rise of skywalker burn
L22[04:42:07] <Rolf> i love the smell of skywalker burning in mornings
L23[04:42:12] <Althego> hehe
L24[04:42:25] <Althego> actually it should have been titled the rise of palpatine
L25[04:54:31] <sandbox> that good eh?
L26[04:56:28] <Althego> around 55%
L27[04:56:58] <Althego> not even the shills liked it
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L29[04:58:51] <Rolf> dirt under my nails is worth to me more than critics
L30[04:58:57] <sandbox> I haven't seen any of the disney ones
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L32[05:00:43] <Althego> the critics showed in the last few years they dont care about truth
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L34[05:00:59] <Althego> but we already know what is going to be in the movie
L35[05:01:10] <Althego> it is basically confirmet at this point
L36[05:01:14] <Althego> it is not going to be any good
L37[05:01:35] <Althego> the only question is, will it make less than a billion
L38[05:01:44] <Althego> and i sure hope so
L39[05:02:22] <Althego> imagine that. you fail so hard it is going to be a chapter in the history of cinema forever, and still make a lot of money
L40[05:03:35] <Althego> since the last jedi i dont consider the disney trilogy canon. and the rise of skywalker only adds to this conviction
L41[05:06:53] <Rolf> heh I honestly dont care about canon
L42[05:07:06] <Rolf> if I enjoyed it, I enjoyed it. if not, then definitely not.
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L44[05:16:10] <nate> Althego: You're sharing a critic review %. Anyone who has gone by critic reviews in the past 20 years is silly, they all have agenda's and it usually involves being paid, if they don't then they talk bad about something lol
L45[05:16:36] <nate> maybe wait for the actual audience reviews to start rolling in over the next week
L46[05:16:44] <Althego> that is going to be worse
L47[05:17:25] <nate> And yet they said the same about Episodes 7 and 8 and they were box office and audience rated hits
L48[05:17:58] <Althego> notably tlj had way worse audience reviews than critic
L49[05:18:04] <nate> What's funny is it's usually the movies critics do talk bad about that end up having the best audience reviews
L50[05:18:17] <Althego> and as i said, we live in a world that these movies unfortunately make a lot of money
L51[05:19:09] <nate> I don't know, I think a world where the general consensus drives sales and not an individual person's opinion is a pretty decent world
L52[05:19:10] <nate> lol
L53[05:19:48] <Althego> but it doesnt. we didnt want this trilogy. this is what a few people in disney wanted
L54[05:20:07] <Althego> they could have made a lot more money if they just did the right thing
L55[05:20:41] <nate> Um I think the several billion dollars they've made just from the two main chapter sequels alone would definitely disagree with your concept 'we' didn't want it lol
L56[05:21:27] <nate> Disney bought the franchise specifically -because- people for years have wanted more, or at least EU content to be made into films (which is, basically what they ended up doing ironically despite separating into two canons)
L57[05:23:10] <nate> Like I can say with absolute definitive standing you do not speak for me in your 'we' opinion, I -did- want more content, I just didn't expect them to basically steal it from the EU and pretend it was original material lol
L58[05:23:24] <sandbox> should've sold it to some Japanese company
L59[05:24:12] <nate> I mean even with Ep 8 not doing 'as well as' Ep 7 they still vastly made their money back and multitudes more
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L68[06:34:31] <NGC3982> hai gais
L69[06:47:28] <sandbox> lo
L70[06:48:28] <NGC3982> does the burn time timer calculate the burn time with loss of mass in thought, or does it speed up during burn?
L71[06:48:34] <darsie> hi gai
L72[06:48:56] <NGC3982> because im noticing that it always runs faster than an offline timer (like my mobile phone)
L73[06:49:09] <darsie> NGC3982: I thought it would be proportional to dv.
L74[06:50:07] <darsie> So the second half should go by faster.
L75[06:50:11] <NGC3982> in total?
L76[06:50:12] <NGC3982> oh, ok
L77[06:50:15] <NGC3982> that explains it then
L78[06:50:22] <darsie> That's my guess.
L79[06:50:28] <NGC3982> i used an offline timer for long burns but noticed that didnt work out :p
L80[06:51:18] <NGC3982> im 800 hours into this game and last week was the first time i ever docked
L81[06:51:44] <NGC3982> used mat's target-2-target method and it worked like a charm, and it really really opened up the game for me
L82[06:51:46] <darsie> Does grabbing count as docking?
L83[06:52:10] <NGC3982> well, that implies a rendezvouz which is actually the hard part, so i would say that yes :)
L84[06:52:57] <darsie> Rendezvous are hard ... ok :).
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L87[06:53:30] <darsie> Lets say ... suborbital rendezvous are hard ;).
L88[06:53:40] <NGC3982> oh indeed
L89[06:54:01] <darsie> Did you do it?
L90[06:54:30] <NGC3982> no, i haven't tried that. i just know how hard it is to match up stuff in atmosphere
L91[06:54:44] <NGC3982> tried to catch a part once and gave up
L92[06:55:18] <darsie> I did it to rescue ppl from higher latitudes of the Mun's surface. Can't jetpack to orbit from there.
L93[06:56:44] <NGC3982> cool
L94[06:57:07] <NGC3982> i have left to try to decouple a front stage, land it, up again and re-dock with orbital parts
L95[06:57:23] <NGC3982> that mat guy always do that afaik
L96[06:57:38] <NGC3982> matt*
L97[06:58:41] <darsie> I think I did Duna sample return missions that way. Refuel the landing/return stage with the previous stage in orbit.
L98[06:59:42] <NGC3982> for bodies with atmosphere that feels like a must if not using air breathing engines.
L99[07:00:41] <NGC3982> or, i guess a must -> a good way to do it
L100[07:00:47] <NGC3982> people succeed with the most crazy things in this game :p
L101[07:00:51] <darsie> Nah. It works without refuelling, too.
L102[07:04:56] <darsie> This simple rocket can make a Duna sample return without refuelling: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot84.png
L103[07:06:13] <NGC3982> ooh
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L106[07:10:05] <darsie> It's not perfect, so it's a bit tricky to do it, but the flaw can easily be fixed.
L107[07:11:48] <darsie> My friend built it so I would agree to fly to vacation with her, so we don't fly too much.
L108[07:14:01] <darsie> Also having a Dawn last stage makes refuelling unnecessary.
L109[07:14:39] <kubi> well, try a suborbital, atmospheric rendezvous with Claudia Schiffer
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L111[07:15:21] <darsie> :)
L112[07:17:05] <darsie> Ok, I confused her with Heidi Klum ...
L113[07:19:31] <kubi> is Heidi easier? :)
L114[07:21:22] <darsie> Some trickster kissed her on her lips in America's got Talent. I think it was the Magic Dragon. She didn't like that.
L115[07:31:19] <darsie> https://youtu.be/euuaEdgijFo?t=593
L116[07:36:04] <kubi> these are part of the show
L117[07:37:21] <darsie> She complained later.
L118[07:52:23] <darsie> Nobody to rescue from the surface of The Mun.
L119[07:58:04] <darsie> Got one.
L120[08:00:45] <darsie> And it's high enough to require suborbital rendezvous: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot85.png
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L125[09:56:42] <darsie> Hmm, Lodbur made orbit from that high latitude.
L126[10:30:13] * darsie saved Lodbur from the surface of The Mun.
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