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L7[01:47:25] <Judge_Dedd> So... Tesla Cybertruck will have a version with pressurised cabin for use on Mars
L8[01:48:55] <Kracc> allegedly
L9[01:49:29] <Judge_Dedd> Well, according to their CEO/chief engineer
L10[01:49:59] <Kracc> yeah he's said a lot of things
L11[01:51:21] <Judge_Dedd> Most of the stuff he says is true when it comes to actual products
L12[01:52:25] <Judge_Dedd> I mean, he gets deadlines wrong a lot of the time, but does make an honest effort to deliver
L13[01:52:59] <Kracc> we'll see some wheeled transportation on mars, still dont think it'll be the cybertruck
L14[01:53:49] <Kracc> the design will be a few decades old by the time any significant human presence is established on mars that warrants a consumer vehicle like that
L15[01:54:03] <Judge_Dedd> Very likely
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L17[01:54:43] <Althego> where we are going... there are no roads
L18[01:54:54] <Althego> you really need an all terrain vehicle on mars
L19[01:55:39] <Judge_Dedd> Knowing him, as soon as they get Starship operational, he'll have a remote-controlled one sent to Mars as a dummy payload just for the publicity
L20[01:56:31] <Kracc> ngl starship will probably be hauling shit to the moon for a while before anything is attempted with mars
L21[01:56:32] <Judge_Dedd> When taking your truck to Mars, always remember to deflate the tyres and empty the air suspension before the trip
L22[01:56:38] <Kracc> and dont get me started with crew rating it
L23[01:56:42] <Judge_Dedd> Kracc, no swearing, please
L24[01:56:45] <Kracc> oop
L25[01:57:10] <Kracc> crew rating will take years, likely
L26[01:57:34] <Judge_Dedd> Yeah, look at how long Dragon 2 is taking
L27[01:58:01] <Kracc> safety first
L28[01:58:18] <Judge_Dedd> It's the only way
L29[01:58:25] <Althego> but at least they made nasa realize their original parachute testing was inadequate
L30[01:58:45] <Althego> but i am still sad there will be no rocket landings
L31[01:58:49] <Judge_Dedd> They could always just fill Starship with a bunch of Dragon 2s ;)
L32[01:58:50] <Kracc> doesnt help that the whole powered landing shtick never got anywhere
L33[01:59:04] <Althego> because of human rating it
L34[01:59:09] <Kracc> mhm
L35[01:59:10] <Althego> too much regulation
L36[01:59:15] <Althego> so they skipped it
L37[01:59:34] <JVFoxy> ugh... get nervous when they do these human rated missions.. so much can go so badly wrong
L38[01:59:54] <Kracc> 1. its hard and 2. you're pummeling the immediate area with hydrazine
L39[02:00:03] <Judge_Dedd> They could presumably use powered landing for their own purposes, if they needed to.
L40[02:00:21] <Althego> even the shuttle had hydrazien problem
L41[02:00:34] <Althego> so i think that is not that big of an issue
L42[02:01:20] <Judge_Dedd> When I see how much can go wrong, it gives me a whole new level of respect for the engineers who designed the likes of Soyuz and Apollo. Especially Soyuz
L43[02:01:45] <Kracc> they had to send dudes in bomb squad tier gear to get rid of the hydrazine discharge
L44[02:02:47] <JVFoxy> Well.. something to be said about keeping things simple.
L45[02:03:20] <Althego> on the other hand no word from elon or spacex about the pressure test
L46[02:03:20] <Kracc> soyuz is a bit of an engineering marvel tbh
L47[02:05:12] <JVFoxy> Multi day flights to the ISS with Soyuz.. I've been a little curious how they spend time onboard. I kind of doubt they'll spend those two days jammed into those couches. Not when you've got a habitat sections just in front of you
L48[02:11:27] <Judge_Dedd> JVFoxy, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_module#Shenzhou_orbit_module
L49[02:14:46] <JVFoxy> w Shenzhou is kind of neat... can stay in orbit at least
L50[02:14:59] <Flayer> i'm really looking forward to the next moon landing
L51[02:15:28] <Flayer> i hope we can have china on board for the moon base
L52[02:15:44] <Kracc> i admire the optimism
L53[02:15:54] <Flayer> it's all i got
L54[02:16:14] <Flayer> just ended a relationship & job at once :(
L55[02:16:50] <Kracc> dang
L56[02:18:41] <JVFoxy> canada here wants to see everyone all take that next step together
L57[02:26:19] <Flayer> it's got to be happening this coming decade, no?
L58[02:27:47] <Kracc> yeah
L59[02:27:50] <Kracc> the moon at least
L60[02:33:30] <Judge_Dedd> I think China have huge potential in space exploration. They have considerable resources the government can allocate at will
L61[02:36:16] <Judge_Dedd> They also appear to be more willing to take risks. There are many negatives with that, but one positive is that it spurs development. Apollo only succeeded in the incredible timeframe they were set because of a willingness to take calculated risks
L62[02:37:47] <Judge_Dedd> You could say the same thing with the soviet space programme. Yuri Gagarin was given a 50% chance of succeeding
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L65[03:14:17] <JVFoxy> sad thing was.. he was mostly a passenger on that flight
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L68[03:46:46] <Judge_Dedd> That's not so bad :)
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L71[03:51:27] <packbart> so are most of my Kerbal pilots. the probe core flies the mission
L72[03:51:59] <Althego> why bringa pilot then. the most importantis always the scientist
L73[03:52:28] <Judge_Dedd> Engineers are super helpful for rovers...
L74[03:52:40] <bees> not really
L75[03:52:50] <Judge_Dedd> Repair wheels
L76[03:52:51] <Althego> rovers... aint nobody got time for that.
L77[03:52:58] <packbart> Althego: Pilots are sometimes useful to hold SAS during Commnet blackouts ;)
L78[03:53:51] <Judge_Dedd> I think engineers should be able to repair anything in a broken state. Last I checked, they can pretty much only do wheels
L79[03:53:54] <bees> rovemax m1 has 50m/s impact tolerance
L80[03:54:06] <Althego> wheels, legs and repackage chutes
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L82[03:54:14] <bees> it can survive even huge jumps
L83[03:54:20] <Althego> also the new installed science power things
L84[03:54:23] <Judge_Dedd> True
L85[03:54:27] <Althego> can be set up by them better
L86[04:33:22] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIpjW-KUcEA
L87[04:33:22] <kmath> YouTube - Alpha Magnetic Spectrometer Repair Spacewalk #2, Nov. 22, 2019
L88[04:34:49] <Althego> just started, they are not even out of the station yet
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L91[05:36:05] <GlassYuri> I hate thermodynamics
L92[05:36:48] <GlassYuri> why does the hot air from the airconditioner blow on the ground next to me, rise up to the ceiling, pass above me, and slowly come down on the other side
L93[05:37:07] <GlassYuri> my desk is literally the coldest possible spot in the apartment
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L95[05:38:12] <Althego> hehe
L96[05:38:17] <Althego> useful in the summer
L97[05:38:18] <GlassYuri> I just checked it and it's even worse
L98[05:38:40] <GlassYuri> move 1m in an arbitrary direction that is not blocked and it's warm
L99[05:38:46] <GlassYuri> literally
L100[05:39:07] <Althego> change the airflow
L101[05:39:12] <Althego> move the desk
L102[05:39:13] <Flayer> turn off the airconditioner and get a blanket
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L104[05:40:24] <Althego> get a warm blooded animal to warm you
L105[05:40:47] <GlassYuri> I have a plush snake
L106[05:40:51] <Althego> lol
L107[05:41:48] <Althego> 69 minutes in and they are still not outside
L108[05:43:03] <Flayer> looks like they're thinking about it tho
L109[05:44:29] <packbart> Jeb can go EVA at the click of a button. I haven't seen a "EVA prep time" mod yet ;)
L110[05:47:48] <bees> GlassYuri: divert some of the airflow with some flat thing
L111[05:48:25] <bees> or add a fan in the hot air that blows it on you forcefully
L112[05:55:45] <packbart> Oleg looks tired
L113[05:56:10] <Althego> maybe he has a hangover :)
L114[05:58:59] <Flayer> i know i do
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L119[07:07:22] <Flayer> great.. im turning into an alcoholic
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L121[07:08:44] <darsie> I might, too.
L122[07:24:58] <Judge_Dedd> That's... really not good
L123[07:25:46] <darsie> agreed
L124[07:26:33] <darsie> Maybe I'll switch to opiates, though.
L125[07:27:30] <darsie> or to KSP, if RSS/RO/RP works.
L126[07:27:31] <Judge_Dedd> That's really not a suitable subject for this channel, and also a terrible idea
L127[07:27:45] <Judge_Dedd> Well, KSP was not a terrible idea
L128[07:29:05] <darsie> I'm done with stock and don't want to buy DLC.
L129[07:30:03] <Judge_Dedd> The robitics DLC is totally worth it
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L131[07:37:30] <Mostly_Deddly> Wow, I just tested my connection and I got 151 down, 242 up (Mbps)
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L135[07:40:48] <Mostly_Deddly> I feel like I should be running a server for something...
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L139[07:59:49] <packbart> Voiding warranty on the ISS. Those scissor could be sharper
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L147[10:06:42] <Althego> https://i.redd.it/n123s9d038041.jpg
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L158[11:43:19] <sandbox> that's funny, I was just thinking about that game last night https://twitter.com/DJSnM/status/1197931447039885313
L159[11:43:19] <kmath> <DJSnM> People who are saying the Cybertruck looks like a PS1 game are forgetting their video game history https://t.co/zJhG5lUfTj
L160[12:14:25] <Mat2ch> The problem with the cybertruck is... I'm getting used to the look
L161[12:15:15] <sandbox> I hope it gets getter fps
L162[12:16:30] <Mostly_Deddly> Eye catching it is, practical it may be, beautiful it is not. But I also think the demographic most interested in an electric truck are probably wanting to make a statement, and THAT, it certainly does
L163[12:17:24] <Mat2ch> Also it's durable
L164[12:17:38] <Mat2ch> so maybe some companies just order it because it will last long
L165[12:17:51] <Mostly_Deddly> Absolutely
L166[12:18:36] <Mostly_Deddly> I suspect it won't have very good crumple zones, unless they did some clever tricks to move the passenger compartment around inside
L167[12:19:25] <Mostly_Deddly> I like the sliding cover over the flatbed part
L168[12:19:33] <Mostly_Deddly> And I love the integrated ramp
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L170[12:22:40] <Deddly> I have to say, I do like the idea of a vehicle that isn't designed to look pretty, so you don't mind it getting a bit bashed around.
L171[12:22:50] <Deddly> The entry price was also a pleasant surprise
L172[12:23:35] <Deddly> The on-board air compressor and electrical outlets are also pretty neat
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L182[14:07:06] <Flayer> i'm just wondering if he's anticipating the end of the world in like a couple of years.
L183[14:07:20] <Althego> i do
L184[14:08:01] <JVFoxy> who's to say end of the world hasn't already started
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L187[14:51:20] <packbart> depends. if there's a nightclub in London called "Stavro Mueller Beta", I'd say we're finished
L188[14:51:46] <Althego> hehehe
L189[14:54:16] <JVFoxy> Ooof.. that moment when you can figure out where to click for engine tweakables because so many air shockwave things on your craft...
L190[14:56:36] <packbart> a tip from the forum: enable the thermal overlay
L191[14:59:47] <JVFoxy> Just thought it funny, so many shockwaves, could barely see the craft itself
L192[15:01:15] <JVFoxy> btw.. no sound of fireball on re-entry?
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