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L36[05:58:46] <Mat2ch> 5500 EUR?
L37[05:58:49] <Althego> for the
train?
L38[05:59:02] <Mat2ch> Looks like it
L39[05:59:08] <Mat2ch> but could be only
scrap metal
L40[05:59:08] <Althego> take it
L41[05:59:20] <Althego> probably you need
to transport it
L42[05:59:29] <Gasher_> lol
L43[05:59:29] <GlassYuri> ^
L44[05:59:34] <Althego> like with one of
the rockets that is a giveaway
L45[05:59:42] <Althego> scott vene had a
videro about that
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L47[06:00:05] <Althego> free, but the
transportation would cost million dollars
L48[06:00:41] <Gasher_> not if you take a
blowtorch first
L49[06:02:13] <GlassYuri> I don't think
renting a telescoping flatbed trailer will cost you a million
dollars
L50[06:02:29] <Althego> oversized
load
L51[06:02:53] <GlassYuri> thing is like,
three meters wide at most
L52[06:03:18] <Althego> the train? sure.
but the free rocket would be more costly
L54[06:04:53] <kmath> YouTube - NASA Might
Be Giving Away A Saturn I Rocket - Here's Why I Love This Vintage
Booster
L55[06:05:47] <Althego> ok not million,
just 1/4 million
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L65[09:34:17] <GlassYuri> ...how do I make
a propeller plane generate forward thrust
L66[09:37:02] <Althego> spin the
bladfes?
L67[09:37:03] <Althego> blades
L68[09:37:22] <GlassYuri> I think I've been
putting them at the wrong angle
L69[09:37:42] <Althego> is this the new
blades or an old stock thing?
L70[09:38:12] <Althego> which regardless
how you put them on
L71[09:38:12] <Althego> the default is the
undeployed state
L72[09:38:12] <Althego> deploy
L73[09:38:12] <Althego> look in the
menu
L74[09:37:52] <GlassYuri> the current stock
ones
L75[09:37:47] <GlassYuri> rotating them a
bit made it exceed 6 m/s
L76[09:38:16] <Althego> never generates
thrust
L77[09:38:37] <GlassYuri> ...why
L78[09:38:58] <Althego> it took me an hour
or so to figure that out
L79[09:39:06] <Althego> dont know why
L80[09:39:32] <Althego> the undeployed, or
as normally called feathered state is useful for gliding
L81[09:39:37] <Althego> because there is no
drag either
L82[09:39:48] <Althego> but the deployed
state should be the default
L83[09:40:43] <GlassYuri> ...all control
surfaces have the "deploy" thing as well
L84[09:40:53] <GlassYuri> do I have to
deploy them too?
L85[09:41:02] <Althego> in fact i turn on
deploy and turn of any control on them
L86[09:41:08] <Althego> because the results
are horrible otherwise
L87[09:41:24] <Althego> you can bind them
to some action to deploy
L88[09:41:35] <Althego> or just have them
deployed by default in the editor
L89[09:42:11] <Althego> not that you can
also mirror them for reverse spin
L90[09:42:16] <UmbralRaptop> deploy for
normal control surfaces is really for flaps
L91[09:42:27] <Althego> *note
L92[09:42:34] <GlassYuri> ...makes sense
for flaps
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L96[09:44:08] <GlassYuri> well, I went
airborne, but got screwed by my landing gear placement
L97[09:44:43] <GlassYuri> front wheel, tail
wheel, and wingtip gear that is mounted higher up, so the plane is
tilted to one side on the ground
L98[09:45:54] <Althego> better use counter
rotating props
L99[09:45:54] <GlassYuri> I have them
L100[09:45:54] <GlassYuri> one at the
front and one at the back of the plane
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L102[09:48:09] <Althego> *use
L103[09:48:06] <Althego> note you dont
need to suse the biggest motors
L104[09:47:51] <Althego> as it spins up or
down it should be visible
L105[09:47:47] <GlassYuri> I'll try
slowing the motors down
L106[09:47:25] <GlassYuri> I can't
visually tell
L107[09:47:16] <Althego> if it rotates in
the other direction is guess it is ok
L108[09:46:59] <Althego> hehe i never
tried that
L109[09:46:52] <GlassYuri> *as the one
placed forwards
L110[09:46:37] <GlassYuri> do I have to
invert the motor rotation if the part is placed backwards? to have
it spin in the other direction as the one spinning forwards
L111[09:49:11] <Althego> (i hate
suse)
L112[09:49:04] <GlassYuri> I have only one
motor unlocked
L113[09:48:55] <Althego> hehe suse
L114[09:48:18] <GlassYuri> they are
counter-rotating
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L127[11:01:08] <Althego> hmm. is the
spacewalk on now?
L128[11:01:34] <Althego> wait, electron in
3 days?
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L130[11:06:28] <packbart> well, at least
there's a "live stream" of something that looks like an
EVA
L131[11:06:43] <packbart> could be just
studio lighting ;)
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L133[11:11:27] <packbart> "we have
lost biomed data on you" - uh, oh, Vashta Nerada
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L162[12:34:50] <Althego> hehe, everyday
astronaut talks with nasa admin in spacex hq
L163[12:35:28] <packbart> space-rated
ethernet cables
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L169[12:47:32] <Althego> two people
because of one cable? must be really tough
L170[12:47:56] <Gasher>
2people1cable
L171[12:53:51] <packbart> Althego: it's a
union thing ;)
L172[12:54:47] <Althego> the guy didnt go
over. but it was mentioned he was going towards where the cable box
was
L173[12:55:01] <Althego> yes now they are
together
L174[12:56:54] <Althego> and now a water
issue
L175[12:57:18] <packbart> he's too
thirsty
L176[12:57:38] <Althego> wasnt mentioned
if it was for cooling or whatever
L177[12:58:03] <packbart> waiting for the
PAO to explain
L178[12:58:26] <Althego> i still find this
quest airlock name funny
L179[12:59:06] <packbart> when the
questlords of ISS ride
L180[13:00:01] <Althego> welcome to
questworld
L181[13:00:55] <Althego> view of earth
below me, i would be totally scared of falling
L182[13:04:11] <packbart> well, you
are
L183[13:04:31] <packbart> (or would
be)
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L213[19:25:19] <MARS2020> Hello
everyone
L214[19:26:10] <MARS2020> correct me if im
wrong here did i missed a major update on ksp or is ksp going
bankrupt ?
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L216[19:27:40] <packbart> I think you're
wrong
L217[19:29:01] <MARS2020> ok i just wanted
reassure myself since i read a page on google saying that ksp was
going bankrupt
L218[19:31:20] <packbart> well, a reddit
thread from 4 years ago says the same
L219[19:32:23] <MARS2020> ok then
L220[19:33:00] <MARS2020> what was all the
hype about KSP 2
L221[19:33:32] <MARS2020> im mean i've
seen comments of people freaking out about it ?
L222[19:33:59] <packbart> mainly because
of the updated Unity, I guess :)
L223[19:36:21] <MARS2020> ah i guess that
can explain the hype
L224[19:37:35] <packbart> and of course
everyone expects their pet peeves to get fixed
L225[19:38:07] <packbart> Keep calm and
wait for 1.8 - moar boosters
L226[19:39:20] <UmbralRaptor> literally
more boosters
L227[19:39:29] <packbart> smaller
boosters, too
L228[19:39:32] <MARS2020> lol im calm bud
well i almost freaked out when i read that ksp was going out of
business
L229[19:39:45] <packbart> do you have a
link to that?
L230[19:40:02] <MARS2020> let me see if i
can find again
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L232[19:48:07] <MARS2020> ok i am going to
take back what i said about the ksp going bankrupt
L234[19:49:04] <MARS2020> that what i read
when i was surfing around in google i did not clicked on the link
until now
L235[19:49:45] <packbart> that's what I
thought :)
L236[19:50:08] <packbart> also, the thread
is from 2014
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L238[19:58:08] <packbart> Kerbalism really
requires a different approach to science. experiments take their
time
L239[19:58:49] *
packbart drops probe cores on parachutes from a plane into (almost)
every biome to run seismic scans for 14 days
L240[20:00:41] <packbart> I'm not going to
fly the Twin-Juno to the pole
L241[20:01:41] <packbart> Drop them from
orbit. That could work.
L242[20:06:16] <MARS2020> does your probes
have heatshields ?
L243[20:08:11] <packbart> the small
heatshield might be enough. works for sample return in a science
box
L244[20:09:04] <MARS2020> ah that might
work
L245[20:10:19] <MARS2020> wait are you
planning a powered descent or a parachutes descent
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L247[20:12:48] <packbart> descent on a
parachute. right now I mount probe core, antenna, battery and
parachute on decoupler and stick it onto a simple plane, fly to the
biome and drop it
L248[20:13:27] <packbart> how to do the
deorbit, though. sepratrons could have enough dV to de-orbit a
probe from a carrier and the right time
L249[20:13:39] <packbart> probably
wouldn't hit the smaller biomes like badlands
L250[20:14:31] <packbart> where's a
tactical cluster warhead when you need one for science
L251[20:16:37] <packbart> it's all bit
futile, though. Seismic scans on Kerbin only yield 3 points per
biome. on the Mun, I drop small throw-away landers.
https://formularfetischisten.de/~packbart/temp/kspsp.jpg
L252[20:17:05] <MARS2020> you i would use
the spark rocket engine idk if thats the right name on the smallest
rocket engines on ksp
L253[20:17:10] <packbart> they probably
would have enough fuel left for another hop but the engine has
reached its rated burn time and might fail
L254[20:17:22] <packbart> the Ant is even
smaller
L255[20:17:51] <MARS2020> yea but it is
powered by RCS fuel right
L256[20:17:58] <packbart> (and the Spider
has an interestingly high atmospheric ISP)
L257[20:18:19] <packbart> no, same Lf/Ox
mix. stick it under an Oscar tak
L258[20:18:27] <packbart> +n
L259[20:18:38] <MARS2020> ah
L260[20:21:51] <MARS2020> i got a question
about RSS
L261[20:22:08] <MARS2020> does it work
with ksp 1.7.3 ?
L262[20:29:01] <packbart> don't know,
never tried it yet. its version file lists 1.6.x to be compatible
but those files can be outdated
L263[20:30:53] <MARS2020> oh ok
thanks
L264[20:31:29] <packbart> I'd say just
make sure to have the right version of Kopernicus and give it a
try
L265[20:32:11] <MARS2020> ok i'll keep
that in mind
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L268[21:05:58] <Margaret1987> I'm
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