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L4[00:31:18] <JVFoxy> ... jeb has a brother?

L5[00:31:39] <Althego> apparently all male kerbals >(

L6[00:31:44] <Althego> :)

L7[00:31:54] <JVFoxy> no...

L8[00:31:54] <JVFoxy> name

L9[00:31:56] <Gasher[work]> right, same suraname

L10[00:31:59] <Gasher[work]> * surname

L11[00:32:11] <JVFoxy> Jedbal...

L12[00:32:23] <Althego> not even close

L13[00:33:13] <JVFoxy> B.. D.. muh, Jeb, Jed.. why not?

L14[00:33:21] <JVFoxy> Dottie Kermine, cute name. Engineer

L15[00:33:35] * darsie has (had?) Elon Kerman :).

L16[00:33:36] <JVFoxy> .. kerman...

L17[00:34:04] <JVFoxy> names just completely randomly spelled or there a list/system game uses?

L18[00:34:37] <UmbralRaptor> IIRC, there's some combination of affixes

L19[00:34:46] <Althego> i think most of them are random, but occassionaly you might get some specific name

L20[00:35:03] <Althego> or was that just for the contracts?

L21[00:35:13] <UmbralRaptor> With a few actual names, and a filter (RIP, dildo kerman)

L22[00:35:25] <Althego> lol

L23[00:35:35] * UmbralRaptor has no idea if that violates the language rule

L24[00:35:51] <JVFoxy> I"d gotten Manley as a name in a waypoint contract

L25[00:36:20] <UmbralRaptor> Yeah, that's a shout out to Scott

L26[00:36:24] <Althego> yes there are a few like that

L27[00:37:56] <JVFoxy> even screen shot it

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L30[00:42:51] <UmbralRaptor> Also, I think the generator was changed around 1.0?

L31[00:44:47] <Gasher[work]> name filter lol

L32[00:44:56] <Gasher[work]> i just wonder what else does it have

L33[00:46:16] <UmbralRaptor> The filter is I think only when generating names, and saves are whatever?

L34[00:46:32] * UmbralRaptor should try some Unicode shenanigans

L35[00:54:08] <Althego> this must be the birth of the unicode danny

L36[00:57:43] <UmbralRaptor> Consider: ? Kerman

L37[00:58:08] * JVFoxy acks, client too old

L38[00:58:43] <JVFoxy> I did a ship for a previous game. looked up translation for a word in russia or something. Copied it over, didn't realize it was using unicode.

L39[00:58:57] <umaxtu_mobile> oops

L40[00:59:26] <JVFoxy> windows had no problem... copying it over to show name here.. well that was another matter. :\

L41[01:00:05] <Eddi|zuHause> .. said the person with the 20 year old mirc?

L42[01:00:36] <UmbralRaptor> I mean, irssi plays nice with these if you have a decent terminal

L43[01:00:53] * UmbralRaptor blames hexchat

L44[01:01:07] <umaxtu_mobile> does that include the new Windows Terminal?

L45[01:01:22] <umaxtu_mobile> I believe its got Unicode support

L46[01:02:12] <UmbralRaptor> Unsure, though I assume that you'd be using the Linux subsystem for this?

L47[01:02:57] <umaxtu_mobile> yeah

L48[01:02:57] <Althego> mirs has been unicode capable for years

L49[01:03:01] <Althego> mirc

L50[01:03:20] <Eddi|zuHause> yes, but not 20 years :p

L51[01:03:55] <JVFoxy> I don't generally use other language letterings. so...

L52[01:04:24] <Althego> at least it is good to see them

L53[01:04:27] <Eddi|zuHause> (i honestly don't understand how you can sleep at night and use an outdated program to access the internet)

L54[01:04:34] <Althego> otherwise you end up with blocks

L55[01:04:35] <UmbralRaptor> JVFoxy: but they let you solve the Чебышёв problem!

L56[01:04:45] <Althego> hehe

L57[01:05:19] <JVFoxy> to be honest.. I didn't think I'd ever poke back on mIRC again

L58[01:05:25] <UmbralRaptor> (That guy's name has hundreds of transliterations)

L59[01:05:48] <Althego> hexchat works on windows too

L60[01:05:53] <Althego> i actually have a mirc licence

L61[01:06:25] <Althego> but since it is per user and not per system, i said i will not buy somehing twice

L62[01:06:56] <JVFoxy> I only came back because of KSP forums and link to the web based irc connection terminal...

L63[01:07:04] <UmbralRaptor> hrm

L64[01:07:32] <JVFoxy> I"d probably have stuck with that, but with our net here crapping frequently. Each time I gotta connect back up, its always a fresh start again

L65[01:07:48] <Althego> bouncer

L66[01:07:53] <JVFoxy> at least with this client, not loosing everything, so there is at least that upside

L67[01:07:55] <Althego> or a screen somewhere :)

L68[01:08:08] <Althego> just as i am using an irssi in screen when i am in the office

L69[01:08:19] <Althego> because for 3 years i was too lazy to est up a local client

L70[01:09:41] <JVFoxy> did look into my own ISP connection but that was quickly shot down. I'd have to move from my current place.

L71[01:12:09] * JVFoxy sends out a robotic launch, finds debris from previous mission still floating in water not far from KSC.. hmm..

L72[01:12:21] <JVFoxy> do I just outright recover it or go out and have fun with a boat?

L73[01:17:47] <umaxtu_mobile> how far from KSC?

L74[01:20:34] <JVFoxy> about 6 degrees south, a slight bit west.. don't know exact distance. Its in water. Currently descending from sub orbital mission

L75[01:20:40] <JVFoxy> er.. I'm currently descending that is

L76[01:25:47] <JVFoxy> well... make that two parts now.. another crashed and survived around the slopes west of KSC

L77[01:31:54] <JVFoxy> lol.. both were stack seperators.. meh just simple recovery then

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L90[04:04:01] <packbart> meh. Forum search gives error 500. and Bing is a useless search engine. I give it all the keywords I know exist in the post I'm looking for and it finds everything else. Trying to find the collection of Module Manager snippets again

L91[04:04:47] <packbart> ( ah, this one it was: https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/139980-130-community-database-of-module-manager-patches-for-stock-ksp/ )

L92[04:14:28] <Rolf> use google with tools -> specific word

L93[04:14:51] <Rolf> verbatium

L94[04:22:46] <packbart> I try not to use Google. I did just now and it sent me into and endless stream of hydrants, buses, traffic lights and motorcycles

L95[04:22:56] * packbart is not Google Captcha compatible :(

L96[04:23:09] <JVFoxy> oh derp..

L97[04:23:21] <JVFoxy> I had module manager page up as one of my tabs for later

L98[04:23:26] <packbart> so I'm using Bing for, oh, several months now

L99[04:24:03] <packbart> JVFoxy: I have it bookmarked now :) I was just looking for auto-hibernate patch

L100[04:25:39] <JVFoxy> oh.. thought that was a setting already in game?

L101[04:26:22] * JVFoxy also face palms, forgot not to race at 75ms across KSC in jet car, hit a bump, byebye wheels and other things

L102[04:26:28] <packbart> yeah, but I'd like it to be on by default. It's nothing critical and I'm packing enough EC by now, anyway

L103[04:27:13] <JVFoxy> ah.. I hadn't find myself in shade long enough to really worry about it yet...

L104[04:30:13] <Eddi|zuHause> <packbart> I try not to use Google. I did just now and it sent me into and endless stream of hydrants, buses, traffic lights and motorcycles <- you must be one of them filthy scum that wants to hide their identity from googles all-seeing eye

L105[04:30:57] <Eddi|zuHause> <packbart> so I'm using Bing for, oh, several months now <- have you tried duckduckgo?

L106[04:32:05] <JVFoxy> eh.. bing...

L107[04:32:28] <Eddi|zuHause> i can't imagine bing being useful for ... anything

L108[04:33:12] <JVFoxy> didn't it used to drop all sorts of ad things in pages as you browsed and other things?

L109[04:33:56] <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think i ever visited that site

L110[04:34:26] <JVFoxy> I noticed it came with firefox/waterfox on a few updates in the past...

L111[04:44:09] <packbart> I guess I'm going to call it Ninja Base. If it lands in this configuration, needs a bit of weight balancing. https://formularfetischisten.de/~packbart/temp/kspnb.jpg

L112[04:44:20] <packbart> with reversible robotic rover deploymment

L113[04:50:33] <JVFoxy> ... what are the elbow joints made from?

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L115[04:51:15] <Gasher[work]> space squid

L116[04:51:38] <packbart> G-00 Hinges. The arm has 3 hinges, 2 telescopic cylinders and 1 servo to align a returning rover before stowing it

L117[04:53:00] <JVFoxy> more wondering the 'bellows' of the arms

L118[04:55:42] * JVFoxy hoping little suborbital tourist rig will make the re-entry safely

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L120[04:59:32] <packbart> JVFoxy: or did you mean the 45° connectors? those are from Station Parts Expanded Reduxed ( https://github.com/ChrisAdderley/StationPartsExpansionRedux ) - I don't want to build stations without it ;)

L121[05:00:17] <JVFoxy> welp.. came down, pulled some high g's trying to get out of hte dive.. landing was a bit a wreck though. ah well

L122[05:02:22] <JVFoxy> packbart: ah.. I probably ran across it in one of Kottabbos' reviews

L123[05:03:03] <JVFoxy> re-watching, huh.. rextured some of the ohter parts too I see

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L125[05:06:23] <JVFoxy> ya.. plane is a little.. squirley, it controls.. maybe just a little too responsive

L126[05:13:07] <packbart> "Excessively maneuverable" is the euphemism, IIRC

L127[05:20:20] <JVFoxy> eh.. tit for tat

L128[05:21:04] <JVFoxy> I kind of got it landed but then it decided to bounce up into the air for a moment then slam back down, boom

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L130[05:29:34] <JVFoxy> packbart watching the vid on the mod, which parts in particular? I'm guessing you took two parts and angled them

L131[05:30:37] <packbart> this one is the "PPD-MULT Multi-Point Station Connector". it can be configured from 6-way down to 2-way angled (30°, 45°)

L132[05:33:09] <Gasher[work]> hm, is that normal that a rescue mission's craft comes within Mun's influence and is being slingshotted by it around kerbin?

L133[05:34:02] <JVFoxy> packbart mm ok

L134[05:36:39] <Eddi|zuHause> as long as it doesn't crash into the mun, or kerbin...

L135[05:37:28] <Gasher[work]> timewarped for a few days and it slingshotted itself into stable orbit. I think it made three such hops

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L137[06:10:48] <packbart> the rover is too light. I'd need another 2.5t to balance the greenhouse on the other side. time to shift parts around

L138[06:15:12] <JVFoxy> or just add ballast?

L139[06:15:24] <JVFoxy> 2.5 .. quite a bit

L140[06:15:30] <Gasher[work]> i wonder why i try to use L to light EVA suit lights - so it was that until 1.2

L141[06:17:40] <JVFoxy> using ' for default ship focus threw me too

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L143[06:42:00] <JVFoxy> ugh.. the fairings on these lvl0 wheels, just love to go the wrong way while building

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L150[07:14:13] <Gasher[work]> looks like that mission ask for the mun stone lol

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L153[07:54:41] <JVFoxy> ...

L154[07:55:04] <JVFoxy> "untitled craft has detected something. Go out and get an EVA report on the surface."

L155[07:55:12] <JVFoxy> ok.. this is a new one for me.

L156[07:59:35] <JVFoxy> oh derp.. marker sitting literally right on the center..

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L158[08:23:11] <JVFoxy> oh fun... hit waypoint, its got ya going to another

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L160[08:35:48] <Gasher[work]> did not find mun stone, instead grabbed a stranded kerbal on orbit lol

L161[08:37:22] <JVFoxy> huh.. 4 way points, a little goose chase of sorts.

L162[08:37:42] <JVFoxy> good thing they weren't way out there beyond KSC.. last one was 12km or so west on ground

L163[08:39:50] <JVFoxy> and.. gotta redo. bump on terrain flipped car over, blew up half the parts

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L167[08:56:05] <packbart> JVFoxy: yeah, I did one of those yesterday on Minmus. had to move the rover up and down between Slopes and Flats. good thing it's got rocket engines

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L169[09:02:14] <JVFoxy> Packbart: I was like, 'craft.. wait.. I don't have anything out there. Um ok, well its just one way point' Turns out, nope, 4.. don't know where the other 3 are till you hit each one in turn.

L170[09:02:54] <JVFoxy> I just built a little Mk1 plane cockpit, with mk1 crew pod, landing wheels, and engine.. just something simple to putter around in

L171[09:09:54] <JVFoxy> oof, ok finally got it done.. missed my launch window for docking with an orbiting craft though

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L185[11:06:27] <Althego> https://youtu.be/sbCoD2rfHf4

L186[11:06:27] <kmath> YouTube - Flying LEGO NASA Apollo 11 Lunar Lander

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L188[11:20:57] <packbart> I've got no luck putting scanning arms on rovers. every time they hit the ground when extending. didn't looked like that in the editor. well, back to the drawing board

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L211[12:25:01] <Althego> hehe, contact https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ5sSTWax0c

L212[12:25:01] <kmath> YouTube - KSP_Rotation.mp4

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L214[12:30:30] <packbart> The Lawnmower Jeb

L215[12:31:09] <Mat2ch> Althego: When does he get transported away?

L216[12:31:18] <Althego> doesnt

L217[12:31:59] <Mat2ch> than this is not built according to the plans.

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L221[12:34:41] <Mat2ch> Althego: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx9PRZAx0_w that one is naughty

L222[12:34:44] <Mat2ch> Woah :D

L223[12:35:13] <Althego> almost 100k subs and still these kind of titles :)

L224[12:35:56] <Althego> dead space

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L248[13:19:25] <Althego> how do you say chroot?

L249[13:25:47] <nate> groot

L250[13:26:02] <UmbralRaptor> chroot

L251[13:26:20] * UmbralRaptor has only used the term in text

L252[13:26:34] <Althego> that occured to me, that is why i asked

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L254[13:27:45] <floptapuss> yo

L255[13:28:00] <Althego> ho

L256[13:28:14] <nate> Realistically since it's not capitalized my assumption would be literally hard ch-root, or simply say it outloud for what it's doing (change root)

L257[13:28:14] <UmbralRaptor> λo

L258[13:28:21] <nate> The latter is more the experience I deal with among other sysops

L259[13:30:32] <darsie> I say change root.

L260[13:31:13] <Althego> https://youtu.be/N87m6fxO5a8?t=111

L261[13:31:17] <Althego> hehe this sounds funny

L262[13:32:37] <Althego> hehe, chroot says it like cherry, but chr

L263[13:40:20] <floptapuss> guyz why cant I get rid of my old KAS files ??? where are they hidden?

L264[13:42:11] <Althego> inside gamedata?

L265[13:43:47] <floptapuss> nvm fixed it, all of it was hidden in a different folder than expected

L266[13:44:18] <floptapuss> just deleted folder and then restored the files i needed in that folder back through steam

L267[13:44:25] <floptapuss> god I'm so bad at mods

L268[13:44:30] <Althego> heh, what happened to techreport, i cant stand it in white, usually i could turn it back to blue

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L322[18:53:29] <JVFoxy> oof...

L323[18:55:22] <JVFoxy> racking head over design ideas for a tiny LKO station while using TAC LS...

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L325[18:56:37] <JVFoxy> 3 days too short to leave Jeb up there?

L326[18:58:16] <JVFoxy> also grr.. windows.. make a change to my ksp folder on desktop, it decides to relocate it after reboot. >_<

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L332[19:11:08] <lordcirth_> JVFoxy, use Linux already?

L333[19:11:21] <lordcirth_> (half joking)

L334[19:11:54] <JVFoxy> room mate uses ubuntu...

L335[19:12:25] <JVFoxy> I was going to virtual box something, but it was more for a map thing for a friend's minecraft world save

L336[19:15:40] <umaxtu_mobile> Ubuntu is lame

L337[19:15:51] <umaxtu_mobile> you should start with LFS

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L339[19:19:25] <packbart> JVFoxy: any of the Tac LS life support containers should last months on a small station. The SSPXr parts also contain recyclers, so Oxygen is no problem and Water lasts for years. Only Food needs to be sent up or grown on orbit

L340[19:20:28] <packbart> I once built this one. went up as a single column, provides 3 Kerbals with enough room and supplies. https://formularfetischisten.de/~packbart/temp/kspss.jpg (the sciency parts aren't really necessary, this was a sandbox)

L341[19:28:02] <JVFoxy> Packbart ya.. not exactly looking for something quite /that/ big... technically I should focus on the docking target (redoing career) Just I missed the window this orbit because I didn't expect a contract would keep popping up waypoints on me earlier

L342[19:28:32] <JVFoxy> Just messing around for ideas for next project

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L344[19:50:36] <UmbralRaptop> Today in UmbralRaptop actually not knowing enough about KSP: launching east from Dessert gets you into a 6˚ orbit

L345[19:50:44] * UmbralRaptop eyes Minmus

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L348[20:02:38] <packbart> because Minmus looks like Dessert

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L360[21:37:04] <UmbralRaptop> So if I combine surface samples from both locations…

L361[21:56:17] <umaxtu_mobile> your head will explode

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L363[22:06:57] <UmbralRaptop> Right, have Jeb try them first

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L375[22:33:04] <umaxtu_mobile> UmbralRaptop, did you head explode while I was dealing with WiFi issues?

L376[22:36:52] <UmbralRaptop> uh

L377[22:37:19] * UmbralRaptop probably disconnected a lot this afternoon because GMU WiFi

L378[22:39:59] <umaxtu_mobile> its not like I'm using a cheap AP. its a ubiquiti unit

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