OCLogs: 2019-05-27.log

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L20[03:37:26] <darsie> I'm getting proficient at landing on Eve: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot170.png

L21[03:38:00] <Althego> that is the easy part

L22[03:38:08] <Althego> quite low altitude

L23[03:38:36] <Althego> there is a whole highlands parts with 2 km altitude with relatively flat terrain, i usually land there

L24[03:38:46] <darsie> WTH, Jeb crashed into Eve. That fool must have let go of the ladder.

L25[03:38:59] <Althego> hehe it is high up

L26[03:39:41] <Althego> and rcs doesnt work on eve

L27[03:39:52] <Althego> so you cant even dampen the fall with it

L28[03:40:04] <darsie> He has a chute.

L29[03:40:38] <Gasher[work]> darsie, is that a rock on the coast to the right?

L30[03:40:45] <Rolf> eve its almost too easy to land

L31[03:40:48] <Rolf> thick air

L32[03:40:58] <Rolf> taking off thars anothers story

L33[03:41:13] <Althego> there is the issue with the heatign during landing

L34[03:41:54] <darsie> Gasher[work]: Yeah, that must be a rock.

L35[03:42:46] <darsie> Althego: TBH, I'd like to walk to the sea and take a swim.

L36[03:42:59] <darsie> So like to land even closer to the sea.

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L38[03:44:53] <Althego> the issue with that is the shores are quite steep

L39[03:45:00] <Althego> steep as in : 30 deg

L40[03:45:23] <Althego> and with the high gravity not even an 8 wheel rover has the power to go up there

L41[03:50:22] <darsie> Hmm, right. This landing (after Jeb jumped to death) I got closer to the shore and while only a little sloped the legs sunk in during time warp.

L42[03:52:11] <darsie> When sloped, the rocket bends. When time warping, then, the rocket suddenly straightens, aligning with the bent top, thereby burying the leg. With multiple time warps this eventually led to the rocket falling over.

L43[03:52:35] <darsie> Maybe I can avoid this by chosing to control from the lower docking port ...

L44[04:00:17] <darsie> I'm sliding at 0.3 m/s.

L45[04:03:24] <darsie> Nope. I'll just revert to time warping only once.

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L49[05:02:04] <darsie> Nope, still not making orbit. I blame the current atmosphere model.

L50[05:06:43] <darsie> Mhm, I could try a higher landing site.

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L52[05:16:17] <Mat2ch> Or... more fuel and engines ;)

L53[05:37:33] <darsie> No!

L54[05:37:37] <darsie> :)

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L60[07:10:52] <darsie> Yes, I made orbit from 3900 m.

L61[07:18:15] <darsie> A bit ugly, 100/170 km, 5° inclination, but who cares? :)

L62[07:20:51] <Mat2ch> Orbit is orbit!

L63[07:21:00] <Mat2ch> Now send help and rescue them ;)

L64[07:21:13] <darsie> No, I have a Dawn for return.

L65[07:24:14] <darsie> With 2256 m/s.

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L68[08:04:09] <GlassYuri> tomorrow will the the first time that code I wrote goes live in production

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L71[08:19:18] <Mat2ch> GlassYuri: nice

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L74[08:47:54] <darsie> Jeb returned the Eve surface sample to Kerbin :).

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L85[10:29:07] <packbart> New Jeb? :)

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L91[10:39:23] <Althego> jebediah kerman, astronaut. a kerbal barely alive. gentlemen, we can rebuild him. we have the technology :)

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L108[12:30:56] <Althego> looks like a clear win for amd now. or is this politics? :)

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L111[12:49:12] <flayer> a solar research station was a bad idea

L112[12:49:21] <flayer> but i'm going to stick with it.

L113[12:49:28] <flayer> drag some asteroids there, etc

L114[12:50:05] <flayer> but first: kerbin & mun research material

L115[12:51:26] <flayer> i'm going to fly all across kerbin to collect samples, then transfer them to an orbital space plane to bring them to the kerbin station, then use the solar shuttle to bring them to the research station

L116[12:51:29] <flayer> what could go wrong?

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L129[14:17:32] <kubi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_LxTXbtso0

L130[14:27:06] <flayer> thes are the kind of trajectories i end up making: https://i.imgur.com/EYr7kud.jpg

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L133[14:28:21] <Althego> yes, rendezvous in solar orbit is usually hard. takes lot of delta v and time

L134[14:28:50] <flayer> i can do better ones than this if i didn't have to resupply the station in time

L135[14:29:53] <flayer> i'm gonna be really low on fuel for the return

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L139[14:38:16] <flayer> 745 dv

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L150[15:37:39] * darsie flew once around Kerbin with a Whiplash and landed on the first attempt: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot178.png

L151[15:39:30] <darsie> 22 km seems to be a great cruise altitude.

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L166[18:48:17] <Eddi|zuHause> what is actually the benefit of this double tail fin instead of one vertical one?

L167[18:49:57] <Eddi|zuHause> (also, it looks like the tail fin is actually not connected to the tail)

L168[18:55:15] <UmbralRaptor> If they're both vertical, same as single, but more.

L169[18:55:24] <darsie> Eddi|zuHause: One fin only gives you one axis. Two give two.

L170[18:56:07] <UmbralRaptor> Angled ones are more useful for combining different control surfaces. I think there's also some drag thing that KSP doesn't simulate.

L171[18:57:03] <darsie> Alternatives are rudder and two elevators, or a T.

L172[18:59:09] <Eddi|zuHause> ah, so you have two instead of 3?

L173[18:59:14] <darsie> yep

L174[19:02:32] <darsie> I guess it's less efficient than normal rudder/elevator, but it stays out of the wing turbulence (dunno if that matters).

L175[19:03:09] <darsie> It's very easy to make in KSP.

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L194[22:20:18] <McSchwartz> I can't create an account on the KSP Wiki... apparently the account creation page is broken and has been for a while

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L197[22:41:47] <Eddi|zuHause> i've given up on account creation pages

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L199[23:05:20] <lordcirth> McSchwartz, the wiki is pretty broken in general

L200[23:16:27] <McSchwartz> i see

L201[23:17:41] <McSchwartz> well it's no big deal. just wanted to mention that the Eve biomes "Akatsuki lake" and "Craters" are still borked

L202[23:18:11] <McSchwartz> the bug tracker issue describes it better than i could

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