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L4[00:18:21] <kmath> YouTube - SpaceX's Crew
Dragon Capsule Destroyed In Engine Test
L5[00:19:13] <Althego> so the crewed launch
that was close is now far away
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L44[08:39:06] <perryprog> Yo, I might be
having a brain fart but what's UT stand for in the 1.7 maneuver
thing?
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L46[08:53:41] <perryprog> Oh, universal
time. Haaah.
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L52[09:27:35] <SirWhales> to be fair, the
convention is UTC
L53[09:27:40] <SirWhales> UT is kinda
wtf
L54[09:28:15] <SirWhales> UTU
(u)ncoordinated? :D
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L59[10:12:58] <perryprog> Ok, what the
crap? When was an extended burn mode added in settings
L60[10:13:06] <perryprog> Can't find
anything in the changelogs or the wiki
L61[10:14:07] <Althego> extended burn
mode?
L62[10:14:09] <perryprog> it let's you
assume your man node burn isn't instantaneous I think
L64[10:15:22] <UmbralRaptop> Uh, somewhere
in 1.5-1.7
L65[10:15:33] <perryprog> so it seems like
it does the burn time/2 thing for you. Huh, can't believe I never
knew about it.
L66[10:15:35] <perryprog> Thanks
UmbralRaptop.
L67[10:16:11] <UmbralRaptop> On of the
quality of life improvements. I'd have to check the readme
L68[10:21:59] <JVFoxy> usually do 50% time
thing for the burn, but still ends up being off a little. I'm
guessing it doesn't account for mass changes when you burn into the
calculations for time
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L70[10:24:57] <perryprog> Could probably
get closer with 40% but that might be too much, idk. Should do the
math but.... effort
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L72[10:33:00] <JVFoxy> might depend on how
much of your mass gets used up for the burn...
L73[10:33:16] <JVFoxy> compared to how much
mass your craft is.. if the change isn't much, probably not a big
deal
L74[10:33:54] <perryprog> Yeah, I can't
really imagine that 50% would get you off by more than a m/s delv
in most cases
L75[10:34:05] <perryprog> but I'm just
pulling that out of my bum
L76[10:51:58] <JVFoxy> again.. depends..
sometimes even a little bit of a m/s can make a big
difference.
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L78[11:01:46] <Supercheese> Happy Easter!
Maybe I should take this time to find some of the various... Easter
eggs in KSP
L79[11:02:03] <Supercheese> I don't think
I've actually visited stuff like the pyramid or dead kraken
L80[11:02:37] <JVFoxy> here trying to come
up with a simple little lander that isn't going to weigh massive
amounts..
L81[11:02:47] <JVFoxy> 2 crew monoprop..
7tons..
L82[11:03:15] <JVFoxy> 1 crew is nice, only
3 tons but... kinda wanna two person..
L83[11:05:44] <Supercheese> can always bolt
an extra chair on and call it good ;)
L84[11:08:06] <JVFoxy> tech tree for that
part not unlocked..
L85[11:08:36] <perryprog> Happy easter to
you too!
L86[11:08:38] <JVFoxy> right now just
sandboxing ideas... am considering a lawnchair lander
L87[11:12:00] <perryprog> Hm, sorry for
another stupid question but I don't understand what the ejection
angle means when a maneuver node is selected.
L88[11:12:13] <perryprog> (It makes sense
to me without the node selected)
L89[11:14:44] <JVFoxy> ... this a new thing
they put in..? Or this in relation to the vector from the
planet/moon?
L90[11:15:37] <perryprog> this is a new
thing
L91[11:15:46] <perryprog> in the advanced
orbit info pane
L92[11:16:10] *
JVFoxy ughs.. testing something out, command seats. didn't realize
you can fill them now instead of attaching a command pod which gets
ejected after moving crew over
L93[11:16:44] <JVFoxy> ah... give me a
moment. In 1.5 still..
L94[11:17:38] <perryprog> Yeah I mean
unless I'm missing something I think the hover text is wrong.
"Angle between the craft or the maneuver position around the
orbited body and that body's trajectory around its
parent"
L95[11:19:16] <perryprog> The bit for the
angle from craft to craft's parent to parent's prograde makes
sense. That's just the normal ejection angle I use for
interplanetary transfers.
L96[11:19:45] <JVFoxy> lol.. well lawnchair
didn't go so well.. used up more than half my mono just doing the
braking burn around mun
L97[11:20:14] <perryprog> But if the angle
is from maneuver node position to node's parent body to parent's
prograde then that would mean it isn't affected by changing the
node's vectors. Which it is.
L98[11:20:33] <perryprog> Sorry, I
explained this poorly. Just go in 1.7 and experiment for yourself,
lol.
L99[11:21:56] <JVFoxy> angle of craft to
parent orbiting object for planetary transfer burn?
L100[11:23:47] <perryprog> As in a
geometric angle from top down of craft to craft's parent's center
to craft's parent's prograde. (There's probably a better way to say
this)
L102[11:26:31] <JVFoxy> right.. ok and
what about it?
L103[11:27:20] <JVFoxy> basically, its the
angle from the parent's prograde where you start a burn in order to
get into a transfer vector to another body
L104[11:28:38] <perryprog> My issue is it
seems like the ejection angle KSP displays when selecting a node is
not that.
L105[11:29:44] <JVFoxy> reciprocal
angle?
L106[11:30:14] <perryprog> doesn't seem
like it
L107[11:30:52] <JVFoxy> then guess I'd
have to see.. I know in the past there had been issues with
coordinate system going a little weird with regards to
longitudes
L109[11:33:15] <perryprog> Fluburtur
gimmie.
L110[11:33:41] <Fluburtur> ok come get
it
L111[11:33:55] <JVFoxy> zoom zoom
L112[11:35:00] <JVFoxy> friend loves his
FPV drones... rather planes myself if I can ever get around to
things
L113[11:36:14] <JVFoxy> perryprog don't
suppose you could show an example from the game, that makes you
think the angle it displays isn't right for the note?
L114[11:36:17] <JVFoxy> *node
L115[11:36:22] <perryprog> yeah sure, one
sec
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L118[11:38:34] <perryprog> Kerbin's
prograde dir is the topmost point of Kerbin
L119[11:39:02] <perryprog> I also feel
like the ejection angle shouldn't be changing with time passing,
right?
L120[11:39:29] <perryprog> Obviously it
would if you haven't selected a node, but when you are selecting a
node shouldn't it just be showing the ejection angle as if the ship
was in that location?
L121[11:39:55] <perryprog> I'm fairly
certain that this is just a misunderstanding at my point, but I
feel like intuitively that it's incorrect.
L122[11:41:57] <JVFoxy> ... nav
ball..
L123[11:42:28] <perryprog> oops.
L124[11:42:50] <JVFoxy> s'ok...
happens..
L125[11:42:51] <perryprog> heckin
imgur
L127[11:44:58] <perryprog> hang on, could
it be the angle between the ship, kerbin, and the node for some
reason?
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L129[11:46:09] <perryprog> accept the
weird thing is if I give the node 0 delta v (as in the default
node) the ejection angle is the same as if I hadn't selected the
node at all??
L130[11:46:13] <perryprog> except*
L131[11:46:53] <JVFoxy> Lan and Arg PE is
new to me... trying to find info
L132[11:48:06] <perryprog> Lan is
longitude of ascending node and arg pe is argument of periapis, AKA
angle from ascending node to PE iirc
L134[11:50:58] <JVFoxy> ah ok...
L135[11:55:14] <perryprog> Yeah seems like
it's a bug, but this person didn't report it for some reason
L138[12:12:25] <perryprog> Yeah, this is
definitely a bug I think. The same thing is happening with the
phase angle. What a pain!
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L140[12:16:37] <perryprog> Can anyone
please tell me if there's any reason whatsoever for the phase and
ejection angle to change with time while a maneuver node is
selected? I just want to make sure I'm not doing a dumb before
filing a bug report.
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L142[12:18:57] <JVFoxy> actually...
L143[12:19:16] <JVFoxy> it doesn't change
dramatically... does it?
L144[12:19:27] <JVFoxy> You make a node in
an orbital plane right?
L145[12:19:41] <perryprog> no, it changes
at a fairly significant rate
L146[12:19:46] <JVFoxy> the node doesn't
move.. its stationary to the galactic reference
L147[12:20:06] <JVFoxy> yet.. as kerbin
moves around the sun... its reference point shifts in
relation
L148[12:20:37] <JVFoxy> the ejection angle
is referenced from kerbin's prograde...
L149[12:20:56] <perryprog> yeah it's
probably using kerbin's current prograde, not the one in the
future
L150[12:20:58] <JVFoxy> the prograde
shifts, but the node doesnt
L151[12:21:40] <perryprog> well at the
least then the hover text is wrong
L152[12:21:45] <JVFoxy> ejection angle
into is taken as current... not post burn..
L153[12:22:15] <perryprog> "angle
between the maneuver, orbited body, and body's trajectory around
it's parent"
L154[12:23:29] <JVFoxy> not really a
bug..
L155[12:23:47] <JVFoxy> more its jsut
giving info real time.. rather than as if you had already done the
burn..
L156[12:25:19] <perryprog> But shouldn't
the man nodes always give the information that applies at the time
you reach the node?
L157[12:25:22] <perryprog> Otherwise it's
useless.
L158[12:27:11] <JVFoxy> the vector line it
gives you is post burn, doesn't change. even during or after a
burn. Unless you attempt to move it during such times
L159[12:27:39] <JVFoxy> honestly.. I don't
know. I hadn't dealt with numbers as closely before
L160[12:28:04] <JVFoxy> I can do a free
return from mun with very little problems, never needed
numbers.
L161[12:28:42] <JVFoxy> other planets, I
just need a date, and I can figure out the rest easily enough with
a node, not have to look at numbers.
L162[12:29:48] <perryprog> I prefer to do
it with numbers, I like the math behind the guesstimation
L163[12:30:34] <JVFoxy> everyone likes
doing things in their own ways
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L165[13:03:34] <perryprog> Ok, I got some
better wording of why I have an issue with the ejection/phase
angle. Shouldn't the ejection angle of a maneuver node be the angle
of the node, the node's parent, and the node's parent's prograde
_at the time you would react the node_? And shouldn't the phase
angle in the new target pane be the _interplanetary_ phase angle if
the current target has a different parent than you?
L166[13:04:41] <perryprog> (Where the
interplanetary phase angle is the angle of the ship's parent, the
common parent of the ship's parent and the target, and the target.
e.g. the interplanetary phase angle of kerbin to duna is just the
angle of kerbin, the sun, and duna)
L167[13:13:05] <JVFoxy> eh... sorry, guess
two cups coffee and waking up 4am not helping me much with this.
:\
L168[13:15:01] <JVFoxy> panel has a phase
angle thing too on one of the tabs?
L169[13:19:45] <perryprog> yeah, on the
target one.
L170[13:20:33] <perryprog> it's just not
"smart". No matter the circumstance it displays the angle
of ship:ship parent:target from what I can tell, which is useless
for Interplanetary transfers.
L171[13:25:10] <JVFoxy> maybe I'll get to
poke at it eventually.. the closest approach feature is nice
though... instead of having to track with the mouse pointer
L172[13:27:39] <perryprog> What do you
mean? I'm not familiar with the older versions.
L173[13:29:59] <JVFoxy> the thing when two
ships or ship and planet are to come close, it shows the markers,
says how close they will be. Older versions, had to put mouse over
top while adjusting things to see if you making improvements or
not. Now with the pane, you can view it right there than having to
chase it with the mouse
L174[13:31:05] <perryprog> Ah yeah, that
is nice. IIRC you can right click it in older versions and it'll
stay, but I don't know how far back that was added.
L175[13:34:46] <JVFoxy> don't know..
hmm..
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L185[13:56:23] <JVFoxy> as of 1.5... right
clicking the stuff on the map does seem to keep it in place. At
least till the number of encounters changes
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L187[14:04:10] <perryprog> yeah, it'll
also unpin itself if it's ever removed (e.g. you accidentally
overshoot and the encounter goes away, but then comes back after
you fix it)
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L193[14:25:27] <Althego> lol florida
man
L194[14:28:03] <Althego> however i dobt
that the polish man reached the level of florida man
L195[14:28:40] <Althego> some things can
only happen in florida
L196[14:31:16] <Althego> the alien movie
is 40 years old
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L210[17:39:17] <darsie> hi
L211[17:39:18] <Mod9000> Hello,
darsie
L212[17:41:18] <darsie> You should
probably re-read the Kerbal Space Program license agreement,
particularly the clause about user-created content. By accepting
that license, you agreed to give Take-Two Interactive an exclusive
license to use your screenshots, something which is completely
incompatible with uploading those screenshots to Commons.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Darsie42#Kerbal_Space_Program_
L214[17:44:09] <darsie> Am I allowed to
make, watch, publish, modify screenshots?
L215[17:44:33] <darsie> store
L216[17:44:44] <darsie> give
L217[17:45:15] <darsie> I haven't read the
license.
L218[17:49:25] <darsie> I'd like to show
them to you, but am I allowed to?
L219[17:50:36] <UmbralRaptor> o_O
L220[17:53:14] <UmbralRaptor> If that's
the case, someone badly messed up the EULA
L221[17:53:37] <darsie> You mean if I'm
not allowed to show you my screenshots.
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L223[17:56:43] <darsie> If I can show it
to you, why can't I upload it to wikipedia?
L224[17:57:30] <darsie> Where is the
license agreement?
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L226[17:59:31] <UmbralRaptor> yeah, and
unsure
L228[18:05:37] <darsie> Looks like I grant
taketwo a license to use my screenshots.
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L236[19:11:45] <Rolf> darsie: exclusive
license!
L237[19:11:46] <Rolf> jeez
L238[19:14:16] <darsie> You agree not to
... make a copy of the Software or any part thereof (other than as
set forth herein);
L239[19:17:49] <darsie> Licensor retains
all right, ... to, ... audiovisual effects, themes, characters, ...
artwork ... .
L240[19:18:29] <darsie> exclusive is
wrong, IMO.
L241[19:19:01] <darsie> ohh, right,
exclusive.
L242[19:20:07] <darsie> So I grant them an
exclusive right to use the screenshots I make. So I can't use
them.
L243[19:21:27] <darsie> Does that mean
Scott is not allowed to post KSP videos on youtube?
L244[19:21:45] <lordcirth__> Technically
yes.
L245[19:25:38] <Eddi|zuHause> well...
technically, screenshots are a derivative work based on the game,
so the game's authors have to give you a license to publish
them
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L247[19:31:59] <Eddi|zuHause> ianal, but
large swaths of that thing are probably void anyway
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L250[19:42:07] <darsie> in various
jurisdictions
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L252[20:00:08] <LtDenali> there we go
\o/
L253[20:00:42] <LtDenali> So is it just
me, or in the new expansion, the dV readouts on upper stage engines
dont account for the dropping of previous stages?
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L256[20:03:57] <MaryDO> Hello
L257[20:03:58] <Mod9000> Hello,
MaryDO
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L259[20:10:52] <lordcirth__> MaryDO is a
spambot, just PM'd me
L260[20:14:54] <Rolf> !ops
L261[20:14:54] <Mod9000> Rolf, if you need
me to call the moderators, please say 'modcall'
L262[20:14:59] <Rolf> modcall
L263[20:15:03] <Rolf> !modcall
L264[20:15:12] <Mod9000> Calling the mods
for you, Rolf
L265[20:15:14] <Mod9000> Calling the mods
for you, Rolf
L266[20:15:21] <Rolf> oops
L267[20:17:14] <TheKosmonaut>
Interesting
L268[20:17:18] <TheKosmonaut>
AVENGERS
L269[20:17:22] <TheKosmonaut>
ASSSEEEEEEEMBLEEEEEE
L270[20:17:37] ***
MaryDO was kicked by TheKosmonaut (MaryDO))
L271[20:18:06] <TheKosmonaut> Did I do
that right
L272[20:18:15] *
TheKosmonaut notices the rust on his jackboots
L273[20:18:24] <JVFoxy> ... maybe?
L274[20:18:38] <lordcirth__> you banned
the username and the IP, seems good to me?
L275[20:19:10] <JVFoxy> bit of an odd ip..
though what I know?
L276[20:19:20] <TheKosmonaut>
Spambots
L277[20:19:26] <TheKosmonaut> Banning is
pointless really
L278[20:19:31] <TheKosmonaut> But oh well
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L279[20:20:41] <JVFoxy> well.. do they
even bother attempting to return after a kick? Usually its just
'someone else new' from another place that eventually comes
in
L280[20:22:27] <JVFoxy> eh well..
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L289[20:32:50] <Tank2333> @TheKosmonaut
well done sir, im proud of you
L290[20:33:30] *
JVFoxy pokes net, "bots least of my worries over here...
sigh.."
L291[20:38:11] <TheKosmonaut> JVFoxy:
depends. Sometimes it just triggers them
L292[20:42:16] <JVFoxy> mm.. fun,
agressive bots then
L293[20:47:16] <JVFoxy> in other news...
debating if I should dock a lander to the crew vehicle or send it
out seperately... certainly got enough DV. But will the extra
weight drop it enough that can't return?
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L296[20:58:51] <JVFoxy> oops... isp is
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