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L4[00:39:39] <Guest48946> anyone know why my ksp keeps crashing after I install soviet mods
L5[00:40:56] <Guest48946> I have module manager and used both ckan and ksp forum link to download the files. neither of them worked.
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L7[01:02:29] <Althego> maybe the mods are not compatible with some other mods
L8[01:02:52] <Althego> usually people debug this by stepübystep installation of mods
L9[01:03:01] <Althego> so does it break even if those are the only mods?
L10[01:03:09] <Althego> if not, add more gradually
L11[01:03:26] <Althego> i guess if ckan allowed the install at least the ksp version is ok
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L45[07:04:32] <JVFoxy> hmm... so poodle engine redesign...
L46[07:05:25] <Althego> that was long time ago
L47[07:05:31] <JVFoxy> with it now having two engine bells, does that mean it can make a roll while under thrust?
L48[07:05:46] <Althego> no
L49[07:05:54] <Althego> the two bells are on one gimbal
L50[07:06:01] <JVFoxy> says its got 5deg vectoring
L51[07:06:32] <JVFoxy> so only pitch+yaw.. but can't differential for roll?
L52[07:06:41] <Althego> exactly
L53[07:06:52] <Althego> but the roll is not that important usually
L54[07:07:29] <JVFoxy> I haven't even messed in 1.6 yet...
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L56[07:08:12] <JVFoxy> somehow i ended up with a ship, using 4 terriers...
L57[07:09:32] <JVFoxy> I'm still tweeking things.. hadn't researched everything.. though the design is quite a bit more advanced than my previous 'cruiser' ship..
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L59[07:12:17] <darsie> My Duna sample return used 1 kickback and 2 terriers.
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L62[07:15:20] <JVFoxy> I thought about using my ship that I had for getting to mun orbit.. to go out to Minmus.. but.. that three crew commandpod on a 8 day outbound trip, couple days orbit around minmus, maybe even a landing, then 8 days back, seemed like a long trip inside such a small space
L63[07:15:58] <Althego> i usually go on escape trajectory to minmus
L64[07:16:02] <Althego> makes it several days faster
L65[07:16:07] <darsie> Get a jet cabin.
L66[07:16:21] <darsie> inline jet cabin.
L67[07:16:23] <darsie> comfy
L68[07:17:05] <JVFoxy> new ship, Trader, design has 4 of the mk1 crew cabins.. I may have to cut down to half.. it also has docking ports for addon parts
L69[07:19:13] <darsie> Duna sample return: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot47.png http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot45.png (repost)
L70[07:21:35] <JVFoxy> unfortunately, after the booster gets it up high enough, have to burn its own fuel a bit in order to make orbit...
L71[07:22:27] <JVFoxy> darsie ouch.. almost 2 years in mk1 pod.. :P
L72[07:22:29] <darsie> Fly low.
L73[07:22:53] <darsie> Gets to walk a bit around on Duna :). Plant a flag :).
L74[07:23:06] <darsie> Dig up some dirt.
L75[07:23:19] <darsie> A few EVAs.
L76[07:23:46] <Althego> there should really be an unmanned version of sample return
L77[07:24:01] <Althego> maybe a science instrument that takes a sample from the biome the lander is
L78[07:24:04] <darsie> Realistically it would start unmanned.
L79[07:24:08] <JVFoxy> My carter back in earlier career version, I had to actually launch it with partial tanks to keep it under weight limit of lvl2 pad and VAB.. just refueled in orbit before going out on mun shakedown cruise
L80[07:24:46] <JVFoxy> robotic sampler? maybe something like surveyor.. or viking landers
L81[07:25:12] <JVFoxy> or just tweek a very small version of resource drill
L82[07:25:42] <darsie> I think we got our first Moon samples from Apollo.
L83[07:25:59] <darsie> No Mars samples, yet, IIRC.
L84[07:26:02] <JVFoxy> I think russia tried.. most failed though
L85[07:26:16] <Althego> we have a few. but they came on their own accord :)
L86[07:26:30] <JVFoxy> wasn't there one mission that drilled and collected samples, but put them in cases for pickup later?
L87[07:26:42] <darsie> yeah
L88[07:26:48] <darsie> Or is it going to?
L89[07:26:54] <darsie> Mars 2020?
L90[07:27:23] <darsie> It will cache sample containers along its route for a potential future Mars sample-return mission. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_2020
L91[07:27:55] <JVFoxy> oooh.. I jsut remembered was talk about it.
L92[07:28:38] <JVFoxy> now I'm wondering what happened to that far side of the moon landing... just a one shop, gets dumped or was it suppose to take off again?
L93[07:29:15] <darsie> Chinese brought a mini greenhouse there.
L94[07:29:38] <darsie> Drosophilae, yeast, some plants.
L95[07:29:48] <darsie> cotton seed?
L96[07:30:15] <Althego> hehe mars 2020 is not launched yet
L97[07:30:18] <Althego> as the name implies
L98[07:30:31] <Althego> and the seeds died
L99[07:30:32] <darsie> Launch date 17 July to 5 August 2020[4]
L100[07:30:39] <Althego> on the moon
L101[07:30:41] <darsie> They sprouted.
L102[07:30:44] <Althego> got too cold or somethng
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L105[07:31:32] <JVFoxy> Speaking of green houses....
L106[07:31:40] <JVFoxy> was watching vid on ISS logistics...
L107[07:32:20] <JVFoxy> be neat to see a green house on ISS, though it would suck a lot of water. Probably have to be pretty huge if it were to make a worth while dent in the cost of sending up food all the time
L108[07:32:48] <darsie> Don't they grow plants all the time to spice up their food?
L109[07:33:50] <JVFoxy> don't know... I usually figured the small amount they do have up there, strictly research
L110[07:34:03] <Althego> yes they grew plants on iss
L111[07:34:06] <sandbox> in case of zombies
L112[07:34:14] <Althego> and i think they even ate it
L113[07:34:35] <Althego> it was lettuce, so 0 calories, the plant you never ever want to take into space for food
L114[07:34:50] <JVFoxy> lettuce mostly water
L115[07:35:19] <JVFoxy> mind you... also depends what lettuce.. some are more than just water
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L122[07:37:57] <JVFoxy> sigh
L123[07:38:45] <Althego> you cant expect more from a night stand :)
L124[07:39:32] <JVFoxy> roommates server..
L125[07:40:03] <JVFoxy> used to connect through a proper setup, but turns out room mate owes tons of money to them so it was dropped
L126[07:40:19] <JVFoxy> she put the router up on her BF's server..
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L129[07:42:17] <JVFoxy> the DNS constantly flakes out... earlier today, reported the IP on my machine wasn't properly setup (its always automatic)
L130[07:42:41] <Althego> that reminds me, my dyndns soon runs out
L131[07:45:33] <JVFoxy> I should probably go rest anyways... my sleep been totally messed
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L136[08:36:09] <Fluburtur> https://66.media.tumblr.com/a347f47b8dabcd9ec7ed77477c65ffb7/tumblr_ow6oczerbA1wsbn2ao1_540.jpg
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L138[08:38:53] <Fluburtur> how to trap a car https://66.media.tumblr.com/b1e7aa0b3ea8c93aa8d5de9567814c2d/tumblr_inline_pppr3csh3P1rvuujx_540.jpg
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L140[08:39:15] <Althego> lol
L141[08:39:26] <Althego> it is like the trap a cat pictures
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L143[08:40:00] <Althego> https://www.boredpanda.com/how-to-trap-a-cat-circle/
L144[08:40:38] <Fluburtur> cats just like being the center of attention
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L146[08:41:24] <Fluburtur> my cat wants us to open the door all the time because she likes when we pay attention to her
L147[08:41:29] <Fluburtur> then wants pets
L148[09:01:31] <Althego> my cat writes files to the standard output
L149[09:22:17] <Mat2ch> Althego: get stdout!
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L162[11:47:47] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz3VkTPzSw4
L163[11:47:47] <kmath> YouTube - Orbiting Kerbin with only ion engines - KSP
L164[11:52:43] <Althego> and he went to duna with the ion plane
L165[11:52:47] <Althego> and back
L166[11:52:55] <Althego> ok, that part is easy
L167[11:53:03] <Althego> getting it into orbit is the crazy part
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L176[12:06:42] <packbart> https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1709910198 sounds fun. now if I can find where Steam puts such files...
L177[12:07:59] <packbart> ah. in ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/workshop/content/220200/1709910198/ - easy
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L183[12:14:49] <Althego> scott
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L185[12:17:44] <Fluburtur> I have 3d printed like a dozen vases with the end of my spool
L186[12:33:29] <Fluburtur> should I build a mockup ion thruster with my high voltage tranfso
L187[12:33:43] <Fluburtur> or use a broken light bulb to make a plasma globe
L188[12:33:55] <Althego> ion thruster if it glows blue
L189[12:34:09] <Fluburtur> actually it might be a bad idea
L190[12:34:21] <Fluburtur> it can get damaged if the gap is too big apparently
L191[12:34:35] <Fluburtur> so a gap bigger than 2cm is probably bad
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L205[14:26:47] <UmbralRaptop> Asteroid, or concrete patio? https://www.asteroidmission.org/20190314-mapcam-boulders-benben-and-limb/
L206[14:27:33] <Althego> hehe, concrete
L207[14:27:34] <Althego> https://hackaday.com/2019/04/16/concrete-usb-hub-isnt-going-anywhere/
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L247[19:26:36] <Draconiator> https://i.gyazo.com/d609e093d1592e1fde4e324aef075e9f.png - What is this, a memory card for ants?
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L275[22:59:28] <Neal1> was there another falcon heavy launch today??
L276[23:00:00] <darsie> idk
L277[23:00:21] <darsie> unlikely
L278[23:00:27] <darsie> There was one recently.
L279[23:00:32] <darsie> with Arabsat.
L280[23:00:54] <Neal1> a week ish ago?
L281[23:01:03] <darsie> mhm
L282[23:01:09] <Neal1> there are these channels on youtube streaming old footage I guess
L283[23:01:12] <Neal1> claiming its live
L284[23:01:16] <darsie> mhm
L285[23:01:49] <Neal1> called them out in the chat and got banned. lol
L286[23:02:11] <darsie> downrate them
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L290[23:35:40] <Eddi|zuHause> maybe make a dozen accounts and start moon truther debates? :p
L291[23:36:04] <darsie> Make a live Moon landing stream :).
L292[23:36:17] <Eddi|zuHause> (i don't mean that the moon landing was fake. but that the moon is fake) :p
L293[23:36:52] <UmbralRaptop> >_<
L294[23:37:35] * UmbralRaptop recalls seeing some "moon is fake" copypasta on Slashdot years ago
L295[23:40:23] <Eddi|zuHause> possibly originating from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN8iA-rue2k
L296[23:40:23] <kmath> YouTube - FAKE FACTS 2 (YIAY #328)
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