OCLogs: 2019-04-06.log

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L9[01:26:30] <Althego> what, a wild falcon heavy launch appeared (3 days 16 hours)

L10[01:26:44] <Althego> cant watch it at that time

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L12[01:37:23] <Guest14645> What is an IRC chat

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L14[01:37:37] <Althego> text communication

L15[01:37:41] <Althego> argh

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L17[01:49:15] <Rolf> lol

L18[01:49:57] <Althego> and i even replied in 13 seconds

L19[01:50:12] <Althego> no, 15

L20[01:50:13] <Rolf> 13 seconds is 500 years

L21[01:50:24] <Rolf> 15? dang thats half of star lifetime

L22[01:50:25] <Althego> 13 was when gues quit

L23[02:09:30] <Althego> so many people who cant read https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOwAVc78cxI

L24[02:09:30] <kmath> YouTube - Three Tows for 3 Times The Regret!

L25[02:11:48] <Rolf> Althego: heh Schadenfreude channel eh

L26[02:12:01] <Rolf> yeah been subebd to that channel for a bit now

L27[02:15:07] <Althego> the harder schadenfreude channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvxDhgDjVCA

L28[02:15:07] <kmath> YouTube - Speeding semi gets smashed up at the 11foot8 bridge

L29[02:15:20] <Althego> kind of painful to watch these

L30[02:17:56] <Rolf> ah the 11'8"

L31[02:18:09] <Rolf> yeah know of that one. 4 inches shorter than no sign minium,

L32[02:18:21] <Rolf> and visually same as no sign minium.

L33[02:29:44] <Althego> oh no, i picked up a book from a series again. ninefox gambit. should have googled it before buying. and either the translation is really dumb or the original intentionally has confusing word usage

L34[02:31:11] <Rolf> https://www.librarything.com/series/The+Machineries+of+Empire ?

L35[02:32:15] <Althego> yes this

L36[02:32:48] <Rolf> series seems interesting

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L61[11:20:18] <Guest61425> yo

L62[11:20:42] <Guest61425> anyone know of a mod that lets you have two separate tech trees

L63[11:21:25] <Althego> hehe a techforest :)

L64[11:21:37] <Althego> but i have never even ehard of such thing

L65[11:21:59] <Althego> there are many that change the tree, even add a lot of nodes, but not separate trees

L66[11:22:06] <Althego> how would that even work?

L67[11:22:50] <Guest61425> im doing a turn based game with my bro were just swapping save files just wanted to know if there is a way we could separate our development

L68[11:23:25] <Guest61425> essentially 2 different trees one for each player

L69[11:25:13] <Guest61425> https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/28326-ksp-multiplayer-how-to/

L70[11:25:24] <Guest61425> that's the system were gonna use

L71[11:25:57] <Althego> hehe i think the forum is not healthy, at least i dosnt load for me

L72[11:26:18] <Guest61425> oh

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L74[11:36:54] <Althego> hehe, does a straw have 1 or 2 holes?

L75[11:37:06] <Althego> i would say topologically it has 1

L76[11:37:46] <Althego> and as such it must be a donut

L77[11:38:11] <Althego> (the straw)

L78[11:51:00] <darsie> Bullets leave entry and exit holes.

L79[11:51:28] <darsie> But yeah, drilling a hole through a piece of metal is just one hole.

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L91[13:55:49] <Eddi|zuHause> i think you can't really talk about it as "topological" holes. most cases where people discuss "holes" mean in a relationship to a minimum of potential energy

L92[13:56:30] <Eddi|zuHause> if you close up either end of a straw, you can carry water with it

L93[13:56:56] <Eddi|zuHause> in that sense, the two ends are different things

L94[13:57:46] <drak> kind of like how can a glass be half empty if it was never full to begin with

L95[13:57:55] <Eddi|zuHause> also, if you consider a coffee mug, it is topologically equivalent to a donut, but the thing where people put the coffee in isn't the hole

L96[13:58:14] <Eddi|zuHause> ... the topological hole

L97[13:59:46] <JVFoxy> .... if gravity is involved, you only need one hole closed.. otherwise, ya, both ends.

L98[13:59:53] <JVFoxy> c.c;

L99[14:00:26] <JVFoxy> oh.. sorry close up either end. sorry, not enough coffee, brain somehow read that as both ends.

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L121[16:23:19] <JVFoxy> So.. contract was station that supports 5 kerbals, radio antenna, power generation, docking port, one Pilot...

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L123[16:24:00] <JVFoxy> additonally, my own limits: First level VAB, and firt level Launchpad. (18t or less, 30 parts or less)

L124[16:24:06] <JVFoxy> took 4 launches, https://imgur.com/a/umhI2cW

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L138[17:21:40] <JVFoxy> ugh.. mod to not have jeb sneak into craft which I need to have the seat free for rescues?

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L141[17:34:44] <mabus> ya know, i think i too would like default no crew

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L144[17:44:43] <Rolf> lol

L145[17:45:03] <Rolf> i never needed empty seats but dont you can assign crew?

L146[17:45:11] <Rolf> or assign empty etc

L147[17:45:12] <JVFoxy> ...

L148[17:45:26] <JVFoxy> when you built a ship, if your first thing is the probe core..

L149[17:45:39] <JVFoxy> then you add command pods, don't think it fills them automatically

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L151[17:46:17] <JVFoxy> but when you load a ship, it fills the command seats automatically... I just grabbed my rescue ship, slapped my head when it was sitting on the pad and forgot to dump Jeb's butt out of it

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L153[17:46:47] <Rolf> "hey jeb get out! we didnt invite you" ;)

L154[17:46:56] <JVFoxy> or maybe even a mod that rotates crew if you got more than one pilot.. jeb is such a hog

L155[17:46:59] <lordcirth_> You're lucky it was on the pad

L156[17:47:21] <JVFoxy> shrug... even if it was launched, revert is your friend

L157[17:47:24] <lordcirth_> I've gotten 100m away from the target before realizing, more than once

L158[17:47:26] <Rolf> jeb is everywhere. even behind you

L159[17:47:36] <lordcirth_> Sure, but reverting after doing that work is really annoying

L160[17:47:52] <JVFoxy> well considering no one was suppose to be in it at launch (probe core controlled) when I saw the mug shot..

L161[17:55:45] <Draconiator> Did 1.6.1 change how communication works? Antennas before used to have two-way communication, but I see no lines connecting ships with antennas and other ships now.

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L163[18:00:49] <JVFoxy> not even connecting to the center?

L164[18:01:24] <JVFoxy> there is a setting that you can click, how it displays things if in map or tracking station. Maybe it got flipped?

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L168[18:27:59] <Draconiator> they connect to the center, but not to other ships. I'm making a small relay station to see if it can bounce off of that.

L169[18:37:39] <darsie> I lost Jeb on an extremely high solar orbit. Wanted to send someone else, but he sneaked in.

L170[18:37:58] <Rolf> well problem solved

L171[18:38:30] <Rolf> "your mission is to find out how extreme long term space travel take effect on people who sneak into mission."

L172[18:44:34] <darsie> Yeah :).

L173[18:45:04] <darsie> It's his fault.

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L175[19:05:40] <Draconiator> https://i.gyazo.com/cb9a6533ee3f915dd1fbd537ee7a7809.png

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L182[19:47:37] <Eddi|zuHause> i hate it when the game randomly decides to invalidate your crew selection

L183[19:47:58] <Eddi|zuHause> (typically if you revert to hangar)

L184[19:54:15] <darsie> Mission: Find a pattern.

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