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L13[01:39:47] <Mat2ch> Anyone watching the stream?
L14[01:40:24] <Althego> what stream
L15[01:40:27] <Althego> ah undocking
L16[01:40:39] <Althego> reentry and landing is the interestign part
L17[01:43:38] <Mat2ch> Undocking was interesting, too
L18[01:48:03] <Althego> but i am working
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L21[02:27:19] <Mat2ch> Althego: bad excuse. :D
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L27[04:30:00] <Fluburtur> Althego Mat2ch https://youtu.be/nA0k5LT5WWM
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L31[05:24:51] <Fluburtur> would it work if I got some of those and slapped them in a trumpet mute https://www.banggood.com/10Pcs-Piezo-Disc-Electronic-Transducer-For-Acoustic-Guitar-Mandolin-Ukulele-p-1046102.html?rmmds=search&cur_warehouse=CN
L32[05:24:54] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: technically it flew. :D
L33[05:25:18] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: you reaaalllyy should make these public, do some more video editing around it and get a patreon page
L34[05:25:29] <Mat2ch> People will pay to see those failures!
L35[05:25:37] <Fluburtur> it isnt good enough yet
L36[05:25:44] <Fluburtur> also some of them are public
L37[05:25:45] <Mat2ch> You have to start somewhere!
L38[05:26:06] <Fluburtur> and my english commentary isnt very good
L39[05:26:22] <Fluburtur> actualyl this video got some views https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBCOERWMwK0
L40[05:27:28] <Althego> Fluburtur: that peak altitude!
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L42[05:31:14] <Fluburtur> next rocket wont have a nozzle this way I will have something to compare
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L44[05:34:02] <Fluburtur> can a piezo transducer be used in reverse?
L45[05:34:10] <Fluburtur> like send a signal to it and it will turn into a tiny speaker
L46[05:35:12] <Fluburtur> I want to build something like the french army uses, they have a communication system that isnt a headset but a tiny speaker placed on the bone behind the ear that allows to hear stuff clearly in most conditions
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L48[05:59:33] <Fluburtur> where cna I get some mics that can eat 130db right int he face without saturating
L49[06:06:45] <Fluburtur> I need to grab some sound insulation too
L50[06:08:56] <packbart> piezo buzzers
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L55[06:26:40] <Althego> so splashdown in a few minutes?
L56[06:26:53] <Althego> why isnt there anything streaming then?
L57[06:27:20] <darsie> Are we in plasma? Or chutes?
L58[06:27:31] <darsie> On
L59[06:27:33] <Althego> no i mean not even an external view
L60[06:27:53] <Althego> or is that the start of stream rather than the actual splashdown
L61[06:30:36] <Althego> lol https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1FLyXkW0AA5Xta.jpg:large
L62[06:30:45] <Althego> an something is on
L63[06:30:53] <darsie> live
L64[06:32:46] <darsie> https://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html#public
L65[06:33:01] <Althego> the same in youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21X5lGlDOfg
L66[06:33:23] <darsie> youtube was unstable for me at launch.
L67[06:33:42] <Althego> sometimes need to refresh now tooo
L68[06:33:56] <darsie> try the nasa stream.
L69[06:34:09] <Althego> that is delayed
L70[06:34:16] <Althego> like half a minute
L71[06:34:19] <packbart> I get "403 Forbidden" on the nasa.gov stream :/
L72[06:34:20] <darsie> pick your evil ;)
L73[06:34:25] <packbart> Youtube usually works
L74[06:34:44] <Althego> even if streaming was rocket science, nasa should be able to do it :)
L75[06:34:56] <darsie> Maybe I still have some cookies set that makes it work for me.
L76[06:36:14] <darsie> Does https://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv work?
L77[06:37:48] <packbart> no. but my VPN may be doing some magic trick that Akamai doesn't like. retrieving cookies and video through different IP addresses or suc
L78[06:37:57] <packbart> such
L79[06:38:37] <packbart> Youtube plays fine on the office chromecast. I'll use that
L80[06:50:21] <Rolf> wartching dragon undock. nice
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L83[06:55:32] <Althego> what, several minutes of deorbit burn? how weak are those thrusters?
L84[06:56:14] <packbart> Shift-.
L85[06:56:27] <Althego> hehe
L86[06:56:35] <Althego> doesnt work in reality, no buttons
L87[06:56:42] <Rolf> i had more powerful farts
L88[06:57:01] <Althego> i wonder if the finished one is going to use the superdraco for deorbit too
L89[06:57:18] <Althego> because then it would be a lot less, those are high twr
L90[07:02:48] <lordcirth> Restock is released!
L91[07:03:47] <lordcirth> https://github.com/PorktoberRevolution/ReStocked
L92[07:04:14] <Althego> some image
L93[07:04:22] <Althego> i guess plasma at the back
L94[07:04:29] <Althego> oh wait deorbit burn
L95[07:05:20] <Althego> basically using the rcs
L96[07:05:51] <Fluburtur> they should land the capsule on the boat
L97[07:05:55] <Althego> hehe
L98[07:05:57] <Althego> they could
L99[07:06:01] <Fluburtur> use dif thrust of the engines to steer it
L100[07:06:10] <Althego> but not this one
L101[07:06:28] <Althego> also they never certified it for powered landing
L102[07:06:47] <Fluburtur> that doesnt mean it cant do it
L103[07:07:00] <Althego> this one cant, doesnt have the superdraco engines
L104[07:08:03] <Fluburtur> weather here is calm
L105[07:08:08] <Fluburtur> it was supposed to be crap
L106[07:09:10] <Althego> hehe like in mythbusters. we can use crap twice in a show. oh crap.
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L108[07:22:09] <Althego> so is that already in the atmosphere?
L109[07:22:37] <Althego> based on the msl display if it is km, it is pretty low already
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L112[07:35:32] <Althego> nice boat (was a meme many years ago)
L113[07:37:21] <packbart> nice button design. https://www.spacex.com/sites/spacex/files/images/dragon/interior_6.jpg
L114[07:38:29] <Althego> ah the msl display was for the airplane
L115[07:40:17] <Althego> some small parts are falling off
L116[07:40:26] <Althego> at least it looked like that
L117[07:40:27] <packbart> turn off SAS before chute deployment
L118[07:40:49] <Althego> ok it didnt burn up
L119[07:41:23] <Althego> chutes man
L120[07:41:26] <Althego> where are they
L121[07:41:48] <Althego> here
L122[07:43:13] <Althego> just fine
L123[07:43:26] <packbart> those chutes look familiar
L124[07:43:40] <Althego> 4, even apollo had only 3
L125[07:43:43] <Althego> and they needed only 2
L126[07:44:10] <Fluburtur> more is better
L127[07:44:13] <Fluburtur> just like boosters
L128[07:45:29] <packbart> landing takes too long with too many chutes
L129[07:45:31] <Fluburtur> does it use radar or baro presure for altitude
L130[07:45:43] <Fluburtur> probably external radar from boats actually
L131[07:46:14] <Althego> i doubt it uses its own radar
L132[07:46:24] <Althego> maybe if it was doing a powered landing, but not for this
L133[07:46:28] <Fluburtur> but I guess it needs some sort of radar when approaching the space station
L134[07:46:33] <Fluburtur> or laser rangefinder
L135[07:48:49] <Althego> seems to be quite light, almost all of it is out of the water
L136[07:50:16] <Fluburtur> Hey Vsauce! Micheal here! I have breached containment.
L137[07:50:29] <Althego> hehe
L138[07:53:30] <Fluburtur> https://66.media.tumblr.com/b1c388f2589f50d31e3a7477c5be5f8d/tumblr_pn4fu5dhmF1t60hk4_540.jpg
L139[07:57:07] <darsie> They could use an accelerometer. When they reach terminal velocity deploy chutes.
L140[07:57:33] <Althego> or pressure altitude
L141[07:57:45] <Fluburtur> reentry speedrun
L142[07:57:49] <Althego> hehe
L143[07:57:59] <Althego> certainly it would land faster without the chutes :)
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L145[07:58:26] <darsie> propulsive landing
L146[07:58:45] <Althego> too bad they gave up on that
L147[07:58:54] <Althego> this lame water landing is annoying
L148[07:59:02] <Fluburtur> backward propulsive landing
L149[07:59:07] <Fluburtur> thrusters pointing up
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L152[08:16:02] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/263028579670032384/553581673749676032/DSC_0838.JPG
L153[08:16:37] <Althego> event horizon of a black hole?
L154[08:16:45] <Althego> probaly trunopet though
L155[08:16:51] <Fluburtur> doot hole
L156[08:42:26] <Eddi|zuHause> was it ever established who this Vsauce character is that this michael greets every time?
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L161[09:26:29] <Fluburtur> https://preview.redd.it/mrqz5ztg7sk21.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=bb72b7dac5bcc124b6c221362028df3d5fae143b
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L170[09:40:47] <Althego> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1JPbz_U0AE6_fE.jpg:large bit toasty
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L173[09:45:39] <Mat2ch> Althego: only paint ;)
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L175[09:47:19] <APlayer> I like my dragons crispy
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L179[10:32:06] <kubi> almost new, kept in the garage, owned by an old librarian lady who took it to the sunday church only
L180[10:33:23] <Althego> actually it is even better. it was out of the garage only once :)
L181[10:33:53] <APlayer> I want this in a garage sale
L182[10:34:00] <Althego> cant
L183[10:34:11] <Althego> this is going to fly in the launch abort test
L184[10:34:14] <Althego> maybe after that
L185[10:34:26] <APlayer> "Yo, it's only $ 2 million. Good as new, only used once"
L186[10:34:49] <APlayer> "I only accept cash, though, so bring those trucks"
L187[10:35:25] <Althego> here, i have a bit of moon rock, can i pay with that?
L188[10:38:34] <APlayer> (Takes out a bag of dust from the rainwater gutter)
L189[10:41:24] <APlayer> I wonder how much of the dust we may have somewhere actually originated on the moon
L190[10:41:44] <Althego> there are few meteorites from the moon
L191[10:42:08] <Althego> but everything is made of star dust :)
L192[10:42:10] <APlayer> Well, I'm pretty sure if we found them all, there'd be more than "a few"
L193[10:42:47] <APlayer> I am talking about dust, though. I think there might be, by mass, more dust from the moon than actual macroscopic meteorites
L194[10:43:21] <APlayer> I suppose there must be, even, considering that everything that evaporated during reentry must end up as dust somewhere
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L197[11:00:15] <Fluburtur> https://66.media.tumblr.com/6d5591b1208b25339a73b7d5c084c8e3/tumblr_o9a689k0Od1rgz8cgo1_500.jpg
L198[11:01:04] <Fluburtur> thats a water slide https://66.media.tumblr.com/332e02244a6a443b91a8fcf8fb3ba2b9/tumblr_inline_oy7a8uAV0s1r7kgth_540.jpg
L199[11:02:06] <Althego> what happened in 2016?
L200[11:02:14] <Fluburtur> many things
L201[11:17:53] <hoglahoo> what else besides that
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L204[11:37:59] <UmbralRaptop> other things
L205[11:38:55] <Althego> i changed company in 2016. significant
L206[11:39:24] <APlayer> My birthday was in 2016
L207[11:39:33] <APlayer> Well, one of my birthdays
L208[11:39:59] <Althego> hehe
L209[11:41:57] * APlayer is off
L210[11:43:00] <kubi> mine too!!!!
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L212[11:45:37] <Fluburtur> I put way too much effort into this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/263028579670032384/553634352341450772/test.jpg
L213[11:46:03] <Althego> brain of an alien?
L214[11:46:22] <hoglahoo> bronzed walnut?
L215[11:47:10] <Fluburtur> that is for an album cover for something I am writing with some friends
L216[11:47:17] <Fluburtur> album will be called "power nut"
L217[11:47:23] <Fluburtur> it wont be really serious
L218[11:47:33] <hoglahoo> “boheminut rhapsody”
L219[11:47:49] <hoglahoo> “boheminut wrapingoldleaf”
L220[11:47:50] <Fluburtur> but because I had no gold paint I had to paint this one silver then change the color in computer
L221[11:47:53] * hoglahoo descends
L222[11:48:15] <Althego> as a dragon capsule?
L223[11:48:47] <hoglahoo> yes, humorlessly
L224[11:49:07] <Althego> terrain, terrain, pull up, pull up
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L226[11:55:29] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/263028579670032384/553636500844052490/2.jpg
L227[11:55:34] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/263028579670032384/553636500403912727/1.jpg
L228[11:55:54] <KrazyKrl> I was expecting a brain.
L229[11:55:59] <KrazyKrl> not an actual nut.
L230[11:56:16] <Fluburtur> the whole album is basically a joke because one of my friends got a testicle cancer and we decided to write musics about that
L231[11:56:25] <Althego> eh
L232[11:56:25] <KrazyKrl> ... coool?
L233[11:56:36] <Althego> a way to process reality
L234[11:56:39] <Fluburtur> actually we were talking abut that a few weeks before it was diagnosed
L235[11:56:39] <Althego> i guess
L236[11:56:44] <Fluburtur> he took it well
L237[11:56:57] <Fluburtur> it is pretty easy to cure, just need scissors
L238[11:57:10] <Althego> so... is he going to lose a testicle?
L239[11:57:22] <Fluburtur> he did, that was like two years ago
L240[11:57:25] <javapony> Hello, I am pretty sure I've stumbled onto a security issue on KSP Wiki. I can't see any way to contact wiki admins. Can someone suggest a way to contact them? Thanks
L241[11:57:26] <Fluburtur> he got a silicon one now
L242[11:57:41] <TheKosmonaut> javapony: ping UmbralRaptop
L243[11:57:59] <Althego> i didnt know there were silicone testicles
L244[11:58:01] <TheKosmonaut> I am getting some weird moderation pings
L245[11:58:04] <TheKosmonaut> Lol
L246[11:58:23] <Althego> you can learn something every day
L247[11:58:48] <javapony> TheKosmonaut, I didn't understand. I haven't used IRC much if that matters
L248[11:59:00] <Fluburtur> I would like to link you the musics once we get them done but I doubt it will be approrioate for here
L249[11:59:13] <Althego> probablythe topic we have been talking about
L250[11:59:25] <TheKosmonaut> javapony: UmbralRaptop deals with the wiki. I am just trying to get his attention.
L251[11:59:35] <javapony> Ah. Thanks then
L252[11:59:37] <UmbralRaptop> ping
L253[11:59:42] <TheKosmonaut> Pong
L254[12:00:26] <UmbralRaptop> TheKosmonaut, javapony: I'd suggest escalating to Squad employees proper
L255[12:00:30] <javapony> UmbralRaptop, I might have stumbled onto a security issue on the KSP Wiki
L256[12:01:05] <javapony> So should I e-mail their main webadmin?
L257[12:01:22] <UmbralRaptop> yeah
L258[12:01:50] <javapony> Alright, thank you
L259[12:01:59] <TheKosmonaut> Who is that now
L260[12:02:03] <TheKosmonaut> ManeIT?
L261[12:04:30] <Althego> https://i.redd.it/8by00i3mksk21.png
L262[12:04:37] <Althego> i can never make good looking cars like this
L263[12:04:42] <UmbralRaptop> unsure, possibly
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L272[12:34:44] <senray> Anyone around knolwedgeable about the innerworkings of USI/MKS? Trying to write a compatbility CFG, and I'm not sure what some modules do
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L278[14:09:52] <Deddly> Sorry senray, I haven't a clue :(
L279[14:14:28] <Fluburtur> well, someone made an article about my vg-33 https://www.flitetest.com/articles/community-spotlight-3d-printed-french-warbird
L280[14:14:48] <Althego> and it wasnt you? :)
L281[14:15:02] <Fluburtur> I have been too lazy to ever finish an article
L282[14:16:33] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: congratulations
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L284[14:21:41] <Fluburtur> that was a long time ago too, I never knew about that
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L296[16:32:04] <Guest42328> wow - irc is still a thing....!
L297[16:32:22] <packbart> yes
L298[16:32:25] <Guest42328> Anyone know where to find a good tutorial on part/mod making?
L299[16:32:37] <Guest42328> I figured this is the best place to ask...
L300[16:32:38] <packbart> there's some in the Wiki
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L302[16:33:04] <packbart> it's probably outdated, though
L303[16:34:27] <Guest42328> Last updated in 2016 :O
L304[16:34:55] <Guest42328> I guess download Unity Editor and play about
L305[16:35:55] <Guest42328> I'm wanting to try and make parts to build a Stockalike X-34
L306[16:36:46] <packbart> I think exporting the .mu file is the important part to get right from what I read. I haven't build any custom models, though
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L308[16:50:32] <Rolf> irc will be there at end of universe.
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L319[17:26:47] <Fluburtur> irc works even without internet
L320[17:27:07] <lordcirth> https://xkcd.com/1782/
L321[17:28:48] <lordcirth> Any decent messaging system should work in a network partitioned from the Internet. IPFS is cool for that too.
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L325[18:34:10] <Guest50259> ok
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L330[19:00:32] <Epi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u2baa8br34
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L347[20:58:41] <phantombeta> Heya
L348[20:59:38] <lordcirth> phantombeta, hi
L349[20:59:56] <phantombeta> I'm having an issue where I'll have some categories in the ship editors that break the editor
L350[21:00:09] <lordcirth> phantombeta, part categories? What mods?
L351[21:00:19] <phantombeta> Yeah, part categories
L352[21:01:03] <phantombeta> If I click the category, it raises a NullReferenceException and I can't change categories anymore
L353[21:01:13] <phantombeta> Wait a sec, running KSP so I can get a log file
L354[21:01:16] <lordcirth> What category, and what mod added it?
L355[21:01:42] <phantombeta> I'm not sure, as the category seems to be completely invalid, and it doesn't even have a name
L356[21:02:03] <phantombeta> Hovering it shows no name, and clicking it doesn't switch to anything, it just breaks the editor
L357[21:02:38] <phantombeta> Gonna post a log and mods list in a sec
L358[21:05:25] <phantombeta> https://pastebin.com/hAgV3K6W mods list
L359[21:08:22] <phantombeta> https://pastebin.com/LCp8TrzH
L360[21:08:27] <phantombeta> Here's the log
L361[21:09:58] <phantombeta> Ugh, wait a sec, pastebin is limiting the lines count
L362[21:10:44] <phantombeta> https://www.dropbox.com/s/5ykgw948dyadx8k/KSP%20log%20-%202019-03-09.zip?dl=0
L363[21:11:15] <phantombeta> Here's the log, this time not missing most of it
L364[21:12:30] <phantombeta> The exception that happens when I click the broken category starts at line 30706
L365[21:35:02] <lordcirth> I don't see an exception at that line?
L366[21:35:48] <phantombeta> Weird, it's there for me...
L367[21:35:50] <phantombeta> "[EXC 00:07:04.362] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object"
L368[21:36:28] <lordcirth> Ah, nevermind, wrong keyboard shortcut
L369[21:37:02] <lordcirth> Well, for lack of a better idea, I'd suggest the tried and true method of bisecting your mod list.
L370[21:37:16] <phantombeta> Already doing that, actually
L371[21:38:02] <phantombeta> Apparently it's not switching to the nameless categories, it's switching to the cross section list in the first place
L372[21:41:25] <phantombeta> Okay, something weird happened
L373[21:41:54] <phantombeta> At some point while bisecting the mods list, it stopped showing the textures in the editor's parts list
L374[21:42:07] <phantombeta> They appear as a light blue colour with no textures
L375[21:42:31] <phantombeta> I'm down to just the base game now, too, so it's not a mod breaking it
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L377[21:43:02] <phantombeta> Though thankfully the editor breakage stopped, so it is indeed a mod
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L379[21:44:39] <phantombeta> https://i.imgur.com/1FCwt2o.png here's a screenshot
L380[21:54:43] <lordcirth> I've no idea, sorry
L381[22:05:03] <phantombeta> That's alright
L382[22:05:07] <phantombeta> Thanks anyway
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L389[23:08:59] <phantombeta> Heya
L390[23:09:09] <phantombeta> I've managed to track down my issue to Firespitter
L391[23:09:42] <phantombeta> I'm using the latest version from https://github.com/snjo/Firespitter/releases
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