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L2[00:35:34] <Althego> ehehe, flaturday night fight, godless engineer vs antonio subirats, this is going to be fun (or rather a train wreck)
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L4[01:16:46] <Althego> this guy has hard time understanding weight
L5[01:17:58] <Rolf> huh?
L6[01:19:40] <Althego> flat earther
L7[01:20:15] <Rolf> remember, flat earthers also have brain
L8[01:20:18] <Rolf> its just flat.
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L23[03:35:53] <JVFoxy> should I risk streaming tonight?
L24[03:39:23] <darsie> What's the risk?
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L27[03:41:46] <JVFoxy> crappy wireless connection..
L28[03:42:56] <JVFoxy> some reason, ever since she moved where my wireless connects to, I've been getting dropped randomly with good signal. :\
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L30[03:49:08] <JVFoxy> oh.. 10 minutes till dockng
L31[03:49:20] <Rolf> got yt link?
L32[03:49:56] <JVFoxy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7wffuODpCg
L33[03:50:14] <Rolf> thanks
L34[03:50:36] <JVFoxy> position and other possible views: https://www.n2yo.com/space-station/
L35[03:52:48] <darsie> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7wffuODpCg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJV5uMM0PBM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21X5lGlDOfg
L36[03:52:53] <darsie> all unstable for me
L37[03:53:30] <darsie> streamlink and youtube-dl -o -|mpv don't work, too :(.
L38[03:54:05] <darsie> What's the problem with RCS exhaust? Unreacted N2O4?
L39[03:55:44] <JVFoxy> don't know.. where you getting nifo on RCS?
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L41[03:56:23] <darsie> They said they put the solar panels in a protective position.
L42[03:56:38] <darsie> To protect from exhaust.
L43[03:57:45] <JVFoxy> station panels? they act like big wings, reduces unwanted forces on the station and protects them
L44[03:59:15] <JVFoxy> though.. I would have expected them to be edge on to where the docking craft is.
L45[04:00:14] <JVFoxy> oh.. the n2yo site.. you can rotate the globe if station moves over the horizon.. ;)
L46[04:02:41] <darsie> https://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html#public
L47[04:04:47] <kubi> your browser does not currently recognize any of the video formats
L48[04:04:49] <kubi> ...
L49[04:05:07] <kubi> HTML5 video works with firefox, of course
L50[04:06:21] <JVFoxy> works fine here.. though am using waterfox....
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L52[04:12:32] <Althego> oh docking is underway
L53[04:14:51] <Rolf> on hold it seems
L54[04:14:58] <Rolf> its in holding positiom anyway
L55[04:18:07] <JVFoxy> lol.. whoops, careful, don't mix your miles and meters ;P
L56[04:18:39] <packbart> why is their Windows set to 1/1/2019?
L57[04:18:48] <packbart> .oO(license expired)
L58[04:18:50] <Mat2ch> Why is there even a windows on board?
L59[04:19:11] <packbart> I meant the control screen in the video a minute ago or so
L60[04:19:18] <Mat2ch> Hopefully it doesn't do a forced update :P
L61[04:19:53] <JVFoxy> date probably doesn't matter much.. its just acting as a monitor
L62[04:21:22] <JVFoxy> watching this brings back memories of some fo the earlier space missions..
L63[04:32:31] <Rolf> funny thing about space
L64[04:32:44] <Rolf> something might be 3 feet away or 100 miles away and much bigger
L65[04:33:52] <Rolf> "diffult to see the distance between..." of course.
L66[04:38:19] <Althego> heh the stream is intermittent, i have to refresh it to get it working again
L67[04:38:36] <JVFoxy> oh was reading about the draco engines.. not installed. They will do parachute only landings till engines are flight qualified. (according to wiki)
L68[04:39:03] <JVFoxy> someoen asked why they were covered up yesterday
L69[04:39:41] <Mat2ch> Althego: the youtube stream keeps on crashing for me, so I use mpv :P
L70[04:40:07] <Althego> i asked it
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L72[04:41:09] * packbart tries phys-warp to make Dragon move faster
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L74[04:42:49] <Mat2ch> JVFoxy: but the Draco engines are important for the abort
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L76[04:42:57] <Mat2ch> so on the next flight they have to be installed
L77[04:43:22] <JVFoxy> they'll do an abort test later.. not critical right now, no crew
L78[04:44:52] <Rolf> ya better t test when not critical
L79[04:46:25] <Rolf> man put on sunglasses lol
L80[04:46:29] <darsie> https://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html#public is stable for me
L81[04:46:30] <Rolf> glare is annoying
L82[04:46:53] <Rolf> finally.
L83[04:47:40] <Rolf> go for docking!
L84[04:50:22] <Althego> this camera view looks like it is going to miss
L85[04:50:28] <Althego> really annoying
L86[04:50:38] <Althego> but it is just the vierw
L87[04:50:46] <Althego> finall
L88[04:50:50] <Althego> this one is better
L89[04:51:27] <Rolf> lol yeah
L90[04:51:52] <Althego> the people are getting impatient
L91[04:51:59] <Althego> there was some murmuring
L92[04:52:18] <Althego> hehe looked like a kerbal magnetic connect
L93[04:53:01] <Rolf> looks like PID correction is good lol
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L95[04:53:08] <Rolf> docked!
L96[04:53:19] <JVFoxy> it is one
L97[04:53:27] <Althego> the most abundant, and the worst control algorithm :)
L98[04:53:45] <JVFoxy> one which I still don't understand... yet
L99[04:54:13] <Rolf> jv lemme link you the super awesome video
L100[04:54:17] <Althego> it is deceptive, looks simple, and in practice, it is hard
L101[04:54:36] <Rolf> pid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vqWyramGy8
L102[04:54:38] <JVFoxy> I've a rough idea... dealing with servoes
L103[04:54:40] <Rolf> enjoy
L104[04:54:57] <Rolf> its video of class teaching on pid, and amazing, taught me well
L105[04:55:06] <Althego> and i am partial to state space based controls :)
L106[04:55:28] <Rolf> different video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEpWlTl95Tw
L107[04:56:05] <JVFoxy> ripley.... this a aliens refernece?
L108[04:56:08] <sandbox> "Latest innovation in docking tech is copying Kerbal space program’s wobbly docking feature"
L109[04:56:09] <Althego> probably
L110[04:56:28] <Mat2ch> with a small difference: It's captured and doesn't wobble away :P
L111[04:57:04] <JVFoxy> hopefully the -gee thing isn't making reference to ripley's cat..
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L120[05:38:12] <Althego> what are they waiting for?
L121[05:38:37] <darsie> pressurizing the dragon, analyzing its atmosphere
L122[05:39:07] <darsie> and stuff
L123[05:42:34] <Althego> astronauts must be the most patient people on earth... or rather in space
L124[05:44:32] <Rolf> they are also most impatent people thats off earth
L125[05:45:30] <Althego> catastrophic failure alarm?
L126[05:45:55] <Althego> nothing looks catastrophic at the moment
L127[05:46:52] <JVFoxy> alarm on which stream?
L128[05:46:56] <JVFoxy> was afk
L129[05:47:04] <Althego> i meant that they can only become astronauts if they are really patient. and if they are not patient in space that can lead to death. automatic selection
L130[05:47:25] <Althego> it was on nasa live, but probably on all
L131[05:48:43] <packbart> I just start KSP and a failure alarm goes off on the ISP
L132[05:48:52] <packbart> ISS I mean
L133[05:49:14] <Althego> better be on the iss than on my net :)
L134[05:53:23] <JVFoxy> ah.. hard line configuration tripped it
L135[05:53:36] <JVFoxy> may as well been /their/ ISP :P
L136[05:54:49] <Althego> hehe
L137[05:55:12] <Althego> no cause for alarm
L138[05:55:38] <Mat2ch> is really nobody complaining that the video is stretched?
L139[05:56:02] <JVFoxy> I hadn't noticed?
L140[05:56:19] <Judge_Dedd> What are we watching?
L141[05:56:31] <Mat2ch> the nasa live stream
L142[05:56:33] <JVFoxy> even though I got another stream up that has the same video going as well as planet view stream too
L143[05:56:44] <pthag> a simple trick to make ur ship look longer
L144[05:56:45] <Judge_Dedd> Livestream of what?
L145[05:56:51] <Mat2ch> people who stretch videos are keeping me up at night...!
L146[05:57:13] <JVFoxy> or the worse one: vertical video syndrome... :\
L147[05:57:14] <Mat2ch> Judge_Dedd: uhh, where have you been the last century? Crew Dragon at the ISS!
L148[05:57:15] <Mat2ch> :D
L149[05:57:29] <Judge_Dedd> Oh it's reached the ISS? Link?
L150[05:57:45] <Judge_Dedd> I saw the launch but I didn't know they'd livestream the docking
L151[05:57:49] <JVFoxy> ya docked about an hour ago.. they doing some checks before opening up
L152[05:57:51] <Mat2ch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21X5lGlDOfg
L153[05:58:03] <Judge_Dedd> Thanks
L154[05:58:21] <darsie> https://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html#public
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L156[05:59:12] <JVFoxy> they do times for CT and ET, why the prejudice against us on PST? :\
L157[05:59:23] <Judge_Dedd> That is indeed horribly stretched
L158[05:59:43] <Judge_Dedd> Pyongyang Standard Time?
L159[05:59:44] <Mat2ch> Lucky me, watching it with mpv, which can set the aspect ratio :P
L160[05:59:55] <Mat2ch> JVFoxy: I need UTC!
L161[06:00:23] <JVFoxy> Mat2ch ISS already run off UTC..
L162[06:00:33] <Judge_Dedd> Seriously, everything should be given in UTC
L163[06:00:34] <darsie> Docking stream continues
L164[06:01:11] <JVFoxy> Love the flags..
L165[06:01:13] <Althego> hehe americans
L166[06:01:19] <Mat2ch> JVFoxy: But I'm in UTC+1, so I need UTC for reference :/
L167[06:01:35] <Judge_Dedd> ET is UTC-5
L168[06:01:40] <JVFoxy> Mat2ch UTC-8 for me... at least yo only off by one
L169[06:02:18] <Mat2ch> Judge_Dedd: Thanks!
L170[06:02:21] <Judge_Dedd> So... hatch opening in 28 minutes, I think?
L171[06:02:22] <Mat2ch> So 14:30 for me
L172[06:02:38] <Mat2ch> Means I can go and have lunch :D
L173[06:02:44] <JVFoxy> 0402 for me at the moment
L174[06:03:05] <Mat2ch> Judge_Dedd: uh, 1:30, I think?
L175[06:03:21] <Althego> in utc
L176[06:03:34] <Althego> at least i calculated as such
L177[06:03:41] <Althego> which means it is going to be a while
L178[06:03:46] <Judge_Dedd> Uh...
L179[06:03:56] <Judge_Dedd> Hatch opening at 7:30 ET, correct?
L180[06:03:59] <JVFoxy> watching Matt Lowe while waiting.. c.c;
L181[06:04:07] <Althego> why doesnt xwiki let me move page under a leaf node?
L182[06:04:10] <JVFoxy> *Lowne... oops
L183[06:04:11] <darsie> 0730 central time
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L185[06:04:59] <Judge_Dedd> I could have sworn it said 7:30 ET
L186[06:05:00] <Althego> now it is not stretched :)
L187[06:05:18] <Judge_Dedd> Oh, they fixed the stream
L188[06:05:20] <darsie> rewind the youtube stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21X5lGlDOfg
L189[06:05:59] <JVFoxy> 4:3 ratio... good ol tv days
L190[06:07:54] <Judge_Dedd> Thanks darsie
L191[06:08:33] <darsie> yw
L192[06:09:08] <Judge_Dedd> I want a 5-monitor setup like they have
L193[06:09:46] <sandbox> that poor person on the right only gets 3
L194[06:09:50] <darsie> I want an electronic brain.
L195[06:09:58] <JVFoxy> 2 here... 3rd off at the moment. the other PC for it isn't running
L196[06:11:14] <JVFoxy> the 'Mk1' mission control had some pretty crazy hardware when it came to how they projected images on the displays in the day
L197[06:11:34] <JVFoxy> some sort of spinning liquid mirror
L198[06:11:51] <Althego> i think scott had a clip on it
L199[06:13:10] <JVFoxy> ya
L200[06:13:46] <JVFoxy> wiki on it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eidophor
L201[06:14:44] <Judge_Dedd> You mean the mission control for Apollo etc?
L202[06:14:49] <JVFoxy> ya
L203[06:15:02] <JVFoxy> the current mission control, think its the 3rd itteration...
L204[06:15:11] <Judge_Dedd> Yeah, and they had (for the time) supercomputers in the basement powering their monitors
L205[06:15:12] <JVFoxy> old days, looked like: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Nasa_MOCR_small.jpg
L206[06:16:01] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8yRDrl76d0
L207[06:16:12] <Judge_Dedd> I just realised some of them have SIX monitors
L208[06:16:19] <Althego> hehe
L209[06:16:41] <JVFoxy> oh wait.. the view is ISS mission control..
L210[06:16:43] <Althego> beryllium mirrors, wouldnt want to be near the place that is polishing it
L211[06:16:44] <Judge_Dedd> Cronus, for example
L212[06:17:40] <Judge_Dedd> No wait... 8 monitors if you count the smaller ones as well
L213[06:17:50] <JVFoxy> I remember the big blue curved desks... which are the ones in Huston mission control..
L214[06:18:44] <JVFoxy> Judge_dedd ISS robotics station... drool all you want :P http://www.asc-csa.gc.ca/images/iss/robotique/centre-de-controle-id-9481.jpg
L215[06:19:50] <JVFoxy> ooooh... CSA, its from the Canadian side of things.. rock http://www.asc-csa.gc.ca/eng/iss/robotics/robotics-mission-control-centre.asp
L216[06:22:23] <JVFoxy> is it bad when I feel bad for geeking out too much?
L217[06:22:57] <Judge_Dedd> Yes
L218[06:24:06] <Judge_Dedd> "Thou shallt not feel badst for ye geeking out"
L219[06:24:18] <Althego> hehe
L220[06:24:19] <sandbox> I didn't know such a thing was possible
L221[06:24:27] <Althego> book of...?
L222[06:24:51] <JVFoxy> oh though geeking out was bad
L223[06:26:18] <Judge_Dedd> Book of Deddly, chapter 1, verse 1
L224[06:26:38] <Judge_Dedd> For geek-out reasons, I always wanted this http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/35071122/aview/lenovo-w710-ds.gif
L225[06:26:38] <JVFoxy> what.. no kindle?
L226[06:27:15] <JVFoxy> heh.. if they had a screen for the other side, could maybe double as vanity mirror ;P
L227[06:27:25] <Judge_Dedd> A laptop, with a pull out second screen. <3
L228[06:27:47] <Judge_Dedd> Imagine if they had done one with a third screen on the left. I think I might have passed out
L229[06:28:49] <JVFoxy> some day... full 360 degree wrap around holo screen...
L230[06:29:20] <JVFoxy> or.. well maybe just in front, but made to look like its 360 as you turn. no point rendering gunk you don't look at unless you've a friend with you
L231[06:29:37] <Judge_Dedd> More likely that VR gets so good you just configure as many virtual screens as you want
L232[06:30:18] <Judge_Dedd> Imagine a laptop with no screen at all, just put the glasses on
L233[06:30:47] <JVFoxy> glasses thing sorta a thing already.. just not wildly used
L234[06:31:11] <JVFoxy> widely... not wildlely... or blah.. ok I've been up all night. stupid sleep routine busted badly
L235[06:31:37] <Judge_Dedd> Hatch opening brought forward!
L236[06:31:45] <Judge_Dedd> 12:50 UTC
L237[06:31:50] <JVFoxy> ya.. head of time, anxious much?
L238[06:31:58] <Judge_Dedd> Mat2ch, might miss it now
L239[06:32:14] <JVFoxy> here I thought I'd be sleeping by now
L240[06:35:00] <Althego> would be nice to get some sounf
L241[06:35:10] *** Judge_Dedd changes topic to Kerbal Space Program 1.6.1 official channel | Rules: http://archive.is/5bp8u | PM ops as needed | ΔV maps: https://i.imgur.com/CHVnEeE.png https://i.imgur.com/gBoLsSt.png | RIP Opportunity, January 25th 2004 - February 13th 2019 o7 | Dragon V2 hatch opening UTC 12:50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21X5lGlDOfg
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L243[06:38:08] <Judge_Dedd> How can HD be such poor quality?
L244[06:38:49] <Rolf> ya know
L245[06:38:58] <Rolf> houson has double as many montiors per person lol
L246[06:39:06] <Rolf> acually more as they have 5 each
L247[06:39:17] <Judge_Dedd> Some have 8
L248[06:39:34] <Rolf> found 6 but cant find 8?
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L250[06:39:38] <Rolf> drat too late
L251[06:40:28] <Judge_Dedd> Cronos station had 8
L252[06:40:38] <Judge_Dedd> Could only see it from the back
L253[06:40:58] <JVFoxy> very curious how those docking finger things don't get in the way.. folds back?
L254[06:41:04] <sandbox> this person has none :P https://i.redd.it/87xwwbb6kvj21.jpg
L255[06:41:33] <Rolf> JVFoxy: all external
L256[06:42:44] <JVFoxy> swings out of the way before hard dock?
L257[06:43:03] <Rolf> no its outside
L258[06:44:17] <Judge_Dedd> Mat2ch, ping ping
L259[06:44:30] <JVFoxy> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/44/IDA-1_top-angle.jpg/1280px-IDA-1_top-angle.jpg
L260[06:44:33] <Rolf> it grips the ring outside so inside seal is firmly against each other
L261[06:44:42] <JVFoxy> looks like this flanges are just inside the pressure mating ring
L262[06:45:00] <Rolf> nice picture!
L263[06:45:31] <Rolf> yeah. you dont want puncurable stuff in inside for any reason :)
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L266[06:54:43] <JVFoxy> guessing the pedals fold out of the way
L267[06:55:51] <Judge_Dedd> How do they not constantly whack their heads on stuff?
L268[06:56:55] <Rolf> okay found 7 montior monster
L269[06:56:58] <Rolf> still no 8
L270[06:57:00] <Judge_Dedd> Cronos
L271[06:57:04] <Rolf> Judge_Dedd: experence
L272[06:57:09] <Judge_Dedd> Centre left
L273[06:57:29] <Rolf> they are using feet also
L274[06:57:50] <Rolf> found 9 lol
L275[06:58:03] <Rolf> center botton. guy has 2 tiny ones as well
L276[06:58:42] <Rolf> center, middle also has 9. 3 small montiors
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L278[06:59:01] <Rolf> crazy. wonder how they keep track.
L279[07:00:14] <Judge_Dedd> Rolf, two landscape monitors stacked vertically, three landscape, one portrait and yeah, now the operator isn't sitting there, you can see three smaller displays lower down
L280[07:00:33] <Rolf> indeed
L281[07:00:41] <Rolf> now is there any 10? lol
L282[07:00:52] <Rolf> oh hey mr. earth
L283[07:04:58] <Rolf> heh its awkward as heck putting on mask
L284[07:05:04] <Rolf> guys been trying for while
L285[07:07:30] <Judge_Dedd> So, er... seems it would make sense to just have air-quality equipment on the Dragon
L286[07:08:06] <darsie> hatch getting opened
L287[07:08:27] <Althego> somebody was happy
L288[07:08:42] <Althego> looks quite big and spacious
L289[07:08:53] <Rolf> wooot opening and entering
L290[07:08:58] <Rolf> or is it breaking and entering? lol
L291[07:11:30] <JVFoxy> no breaking in space... that would mean big problems
L292[07:11:52] <Rolf> yeah lol
L293[07:11:57] <Rolf> i wonder what they are testing
L294[07:12:05] <Rolf> im pretty sure some of it is gases
L295[07:12:25] <Judge_Dedd> That was cool
L296[07:12:25] <Rolf> lol showmanship of mr earth
L297[07:12:38] <Judge_Dedd> cyas
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L299[07:14:48] <Rolf> looooting the ship
L300[07:15:08] <packbart> reading the manual
L301[07:15:21] <Rolf> rtfm yep
L302[07:15:31] <Rolf> read the flipping manual
L303[07:27:48] <Mat2ch> Oh, Judge_Dedd split. I saw it, while cooking and eating
L304[07:32:13] <Mat2ch> Rolf: https://www.en.dataflex.shop/dataflex-viewmaster-multi-monitor-system-desk-53-843.html the biggest I could find...
L305[07:32:45] <Rolf> lol yet its just 8
L306[07:33:22] <Mat2ch> Jep
L307[07:33:33] <Mat2ch> If you need more, combine those ;P
L308[07:33:49] <Rolf> 10* ;)
L309[07:34:34] <Althego> why is the earth plushie moving?
L310[07:34:44] <Rolf> its alive thats why
L311[07:34:53] <Mat2ch> 15!
L312[07:35:02] <Rolf> honestly so many possible causes
L313[07:35:10] <Rolf> all you need is very little force. like maybe moving air
L314[07:35:13] <Mat2ch> Althego: I think they put on the fans
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L316[07:35:24] <Mat2ch> *switched on
L317[07:35:29] <Althego> the fans were on all along (and watching :))
L318[07:38:17] <Mat2ch> ohhhh, what a pun!
L319[07:38:30] <Mat2ch> Rolf: get 10 of these and the rail and build your own: https://www.en.dataflex.shop/dataflex-viewlite-slatwall-monitor-mount-58-402.html ;P
L320[07:38:32] <Mat2ch> Also: 15!
L321[07:38:44] <Mat2ch> Or a OLED wall
L322[07:38:49] <Rolf> lol
L323[07:38:56] <Mat2ch> I'm still waiting for the OLED wall paper
L324[07:39:06] <Mat2ch> it was promised in 2005 we'd get some soon!
L325[07:39:17] <Rolf> Mat2ch: F745
L326[07:39:33] <Rolf> oops
L327[07:39:37] <Rolf> 451F :)
L328[07:39:57] <Mat2ch> huh?
L329[07:43:15] <Mat2ch> Rolf: linkkkk please
L330[07:43:51] <Rolf> 451 f is a book that have wall tvs :)
L331[07:44:03] <Rolf> its old enough to predate lots of things so compyters were not envisioned
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L334[07:47:55] <Mat2ch> Ah
L335[07:48:00] <Mat2ch> ok, so you really meant that book
L336[07:48:09] <Mat2ch> I never read it
L337[07:48:20] <Rolf> you dhoulf read it in least once
L338[07:48:25] <Rolf> same as 1984
L339[07:49:46] <Mat2ch> Uh, I just took a look at the launch schedule... what happend to the inflight abort test?
L340[07:50:20] <Mat2ch> I don't like books like Fahrenheit 451 and 1984. If I want to see horror, I watch the news.
L341[07:51:03] <Rolf> other one is handmaiden
L342[07:51:07] <Mat2ch> We already have so many of those survaillance systems already in place, I don't see the point in reading about them, when I already know where they are and how they work
L343[07:53:53] <Rolf> its not all about survaillence
L344[07:54:01] <Rolf> its lot more
L345[07:55:39] <Mat2ch> yes, how people deal with it, find their ways around it and everything. I'm from Germany, I learnt all about the DDR in school and I saw the wall fall on tv, which was truly amazing to see. I don't need to read about it...
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L349[08:24:44] <JVFoxy> hm.. quite the camera they using.. (in the stream)
L350[08:25:01] <JVFoxy> take'n pictures.. wonder if they post for public to see
L351[08:27:42] <Fluburtur> https://66.media.tumblr.com/964c3571afe450cb466f086204ef4bad/tumblr_p6wdebi7Cj1vp2ixso1_500.jpg
L352[08:29:40] <JVFoxy> Fluburtur I wouldn't be surprised if that was floor of a data center?
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L358[09:22:24] <JVFoxy> before I went and spilled half the coffee into my lap... >_<
L359[09:23:18] <JVFoxy> was reading up on the docking port they are using, if they really wanted to, can dock two dragons together given the design working both ways
L360[09:33:15] <packbart> At page 56, I have reached the end of the KSP mod catalog on spacedock. Now I have seen them all
L361[09:37:15] <JVFoxy> US Russia Canada.. rock
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L367[09:44:36] <Mat2ch> JVFoxy: that was the plan for the docking ports
L368[09:45:04] <Mat2ch> Having an adapter they can use on all vehicles, no matter what they're meant for
L369[09:46:21] <JVFoxy> ya.. a universal system that can work between ships, not just ship and station only
L370[09:47:13] <JVFoxy> as opposed to the old drogue spike design used for the apollo craft missions
L371[09:48:02] <JVFoxy> am kind of curious how similar it is to the apollo-soyuze docking system...they had the guiding petals on the outside though.
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L378[11:42:39] <goldenpeach> Anyone have trouble docking/undocking with the SM-25 when its side panels are decoupled?
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L386[12:15:10] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and daughters of Kerbin: No boom today Boom tomorrow. There's always a 'boom' tomorrow.
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L388[12:15:46] <Althego> if you have prboom installed
L389[12:16:21] <Fluburtur> I finished ace combat 7 on hard
L390[12:16:25] <Fluburtur> time for ace nox
L391[12:16:27] <Fluburtur> now*
L392[12:17:05] <Scolar_Visari> Stick with Fluburtur and you'll make it.
L393[12:17:17] <UmbralRaptop> boom! </Ivonva>
L394[12:18:07] <Scolar_Visari> UmbralRaptop: I'm glad someone's keeping perspective!
L395[12:19:12] * Scolar_Visari ponders why the covered walkway http://www.trbimg.com/img-5c74395d/turbine/os-bz-spacex-crew-dragon-cleared-20190225
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L397[12:23:38] <Scolar_Visari> Ooooh https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/015/305/533/large/mitchell-stuart-kitbash3d-utopia-mitchs-v001.jpg?1547851133
L398[12:26:55] <Althego> babylon n+1 :)
L399[12:28:23] <Scolar_Visari> Our last, best hope for peas.
L400[12:28:41] <Mat2ch> Scolar_Visari: well, if you bought a ticket to ride on a Crew Dragon, would you want to have only a girder structure around you?
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L402[12:29:39] <Althego> if somebody somehow sneak on board, would it have worked with the extra payload?
L403[12:29:41] <Scolar_Visari> AHA! Finally found the high-res version of this https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DtmnOHXUUAAQqdQ.jpg
L404[12:29:55] <Scolar_Visari> Mat2ch: I don't think Crew Dragon's going to have much of a tourist market.
L405[12:29:59] <Althego> the tractor
L406[12:30:05] <Scolar_Visari> Besides, you're already wearing a pressure suit when you're walking in.
L407[12:30:11] <Mat2ch> Scolar_Visari: Oh, I'm not so sure about that...
L408[12:30:14] <Scolar_Visari> Althego: Space Dragon.
L409[12:30:21] <Mat2ch> Scolar_Visari: those aren't pressure suits :)
L410[12:30:49] <Fluburtur> https://youtu.be/Rt3jlSQ7E1Y
L411[12:30:54] <Scolar_Visari> Mat2ch: I am, because SpaceX has made it pretty clear they're shooting for Spaceship and they've made no progress in advertising the Dragon 2 for markets beyond the ISS.
L412[12:35:13] <Scolar_Visari> Then the next issue is wondering if Starship will actually happen.
L413[12:40:56] <Draconiator> I think so. Eventually.
L414[12:41:01] <Draconiator> because SpaceX.
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L416[12:49:57] <Scolar_Visari> Confidence born of ignorance, the cycle cannot be broken!
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L419[12:59:09] <UmbralRaptop> Eventually is a long time. It was what, 6 years between the falcon 9 announcement and first launch?
L420[12:59:26] <UmbralRaptop> More like 10 years for falcon heavy
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L422[13:05:27] <Scolar_Visari> UmbralRaptop: The delays to the man Dragon have me skeptical of any leaps in Starship's progress.
L423[13:05:58] <Scolar_Visari> Interplanetary Transfer Vehicle/Lander Complexity > Low endurance Earth Orbit capsule.
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L425[13:08:54] * Scolar_Visari also chuckles at a first flight date of 2022.
L426[13:09:55] <Althego> hehr
L427[13:09:59] <Althego> bit too soon
L428[13:10:09] <Althego> ok they have some engine at least
L429[13:10:15] <Althego> but nothing of thes hip
L430[13:10:25] <Althego> especially the sweaty heatshield
L431[13:10:46] <UmbralRaptop> Yeah, they're going to slip. Elon time, etc.
L432[13:10:55] <Althego> time warp :)
L433[13:12:17] <Scolar_Visari> Hah, lucky day, found something else I didn't have https://mdenoya.files.wordpress.com/2018/06/life-in-a-space-colony-by-robert-mccall.jpg
L434[13:12:25] <Scolar_Visari> UmbralRaptop: I think weight gain is also going to be a severe issue.
L435[13:12:26] <Althego> ehehe
L436[13:12:35] <Althego> low g pool
L437[13:12:48] <UmbralRaptop> heh
L438[13:12:55] <Scolar_Visari> UmbralRaptop: I can't imagine that's going to be fun when dealing with large, fully reusable 2-stager.
L439[13:13:13] <Althego> nobody said it would be fun
L440[13:13:28] * UmbralRaptop stares at the ghost of the shuttle
L441[13:13:29] <Althego> at least relatively doable, compared to an ssto
L442[13:13:49] <Althego> still not a word about the skylon
L443[13:14:15] <Scolar_Visari> Weeee! https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2386/3533/products/SpaceStationSpaceColony_f807d40d-cfab-44e3-8bd6-2c41a6f2d6e7_x1000.jpg?v=1538178989
L444[13:14:29] <Scolar_Visari> UmbralRaptop: And it only needed to stay in space for a couple of weeks at time!
L445[13:14:33] <Althego> that sabre engine is just amazing... if they ever build it
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L447[13:16:02] <UmbralRaptop> ooh, neat poster
L448[13:16:23] *** Deddly changes topic to Kerbal Space Program 1.6.1 official channel | Rules: http://archive.is/5bp8u | PM ops as needed | ΔV maps: https://i.imgur.com/CHVnEeE.png https://i.imgur.com/gBoLsSt.png | RIP Opportunity, January 25th 2004 - February 13th 2019 o7 |
L449[13:19:13] <Scolar_Visari> Oh this is neat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjyYEjgBpTM
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L451[13:24:38] <Althego> scott
L452[13:27:06] * Scolar_Visari ponders what happened to Bryan Versteeg's website.
L453[13:30:09] <sandbox> who?
L454[13:31:20] <Althego> hehe, open the pod bay doors hal
L455[13:31:31] <Scolar_Visari> Who came up with the linked illustration of Kalpana Two
L456[13:31:37] <Scolar_Visari> Their website appears to have gone back to default.
L457[13:31:59] <Althego> hehe even scott mentioned that it is like kerbal docking
L458[13:32:27] <Scolar_Visari> Ooooh https://veer.tv/photos/250m-radius-300m-length-camera-87-131824
L459[13:32:34] <Scolar_Visari> Althego: THEY USED MECHJEB!
L460[13:32:43] <Althego> it is cheating
L461[13:33:16] <Scolar_Visari> And another with space sheep https://veer.tv/photos/250m-radius-300m-length-cam-59-1391-130896
L462[13:36:04] * Scolar_Visari ponders Space Mutton.
L463[13:39:53] <UmbralRaptop> space gyros
L464[13:40:07] <UmbralRaptop> … I should have intended that pun.
L465[13:42:55] <Althego> hehe
L466[13:47:47] <Althego> ah planarwalk and team skeptic. this has to be good
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L468[13:51:17] <mrBlaQ> holy shit it's so neat to see the PMA in use again
L469[13:52:12] <Althego> cant use that word here
L470[13:52:25] <mrBlaQ> oh dang you're right
L471[13:52:53] <Deddly> Yes, please be careful
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L473[13:53:20] <mrBlaQ> no
L474[13:54:09] <Deddly> Excuse me?
L475[13:54:34] <Althego> hehe
L476[13:55:08] <mrBlaQ> you're excused!
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L478[13:59:17] <Deddly> What is PMA anyway?
L479[13:59:28] <Althego> i guess the iss front docking position
L480[13:59:56] <Althego> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pressurized_Mating_Adapter
L481[14:00:52] <Deddly> Ah cool, thanks
L482[14:01:02] <mrBlaQ> not in use since shuttle ended
L483[14:01:13] <Deddly> What do other craft dock to?
L484[14:02:02] <mrBlaQ> i believe the harmony nadir port, or bottom
L485[14:02:10] <mrBlaQ> the cargo dragon at least
L486[14:03:37] <mrBlaQ> oh they'll use nadir or zenith for cargo, cygnus, cirrus
L487[14:04:04] <mrBlaQ> errr not cirrus
L488[14:05:04] <Deddly> It's amazing to me that we have this huge orbiting station and we currently don't have the ability to launch anything like it
L489[14:05:17] <Althego> we never had
L490[14:05:22] <Althego> it went up in pieces :)
L491[14:06:03] <Althego> would be nice kerbal style. build it in the hangar, then put a huge fairing on it, and just add enough boosters :)
L492[14:07:50] <Deddly> I mean we can't even launch the pieces
L493[14:08:20] <Deddly> For all its faults, the shuttle was a capable beast
L494[14:09:47] <Deddly> Also, the only orbit-capable spacecraft (apart from Buran) that looked anything close to sci-fi, which gives it added coolness points :P
L495[14:11:08] <Althego> i just found a channel titled i need more space
L496[14:11:17] <Althego> yes, i do need more space
L497[14:11:33] <darsie> #ineedmorespace ?
L498[14:12:37] <Althego> hehe he interviewed the makers of the behind the curve film (it is about flat earthers)
L499[14:13:30] <Deddly> Well look at that. #ineedmorespace actually exists
L500[14:13:59] <Althego> and cut the elon interview to comprehensible. this is waht elon needs, somebody cutting out the pauses between his words in real life
L501[14:14:16] <Deddly> LOL
L502[14:14:26] <Deddly> Sorry darsie, I couldn't resist
L503[14:14:31] <darsie> np :)
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L505[14:16:36] <sandbox> dead deer
L506[14:23:49] <Fluburtur> is wine something peoples drink while eating nems?
L507[14:24:03] <darsie> What are nems?
L508[14:24:22] <Fluburtur> https://static.cuisineaz.com/400x320/i115008-.jpeg
L509[14:31:04] <Draconiator> looks like an egg roll
L510[14:31:33] <Fluburtur> no
L511[14:31:57] <Fluburtur> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%E1%BA%A3_gi%C3%B2
L512[14:34:13] <sandbox> spring roll
L513[14:35:30] <Fluburtur> good stuff
L514[14:35:35] <Fluburtur> I love asian food
L515[14:35:51] <Fluburtur> exept that I dont like fish which is a bit paradoxal
L516[14:36:21] <sandbox> depends on the fish
L517[14:36:38] <Fluburtur> no fish
L518[14:36:52] <Fluburtur> not that I didnt try, I just dont like it
L519[14:37:44] <jeans> hoglahoo: Hi
L520[14:37:47] <sandbox> prawns?
L521[14:38:04] <Fluburtur> well I didnt try every kind of fish there is
L522[14:38:16] <Fluburtur> too bad, sushi looks like they are good but there is fish
L523[14:38:52] <hoglahoo> o/
L524[14:44:30] <nate> sushi is more than just 'fish', it's a variety of seafood variants
L525[14:45:09] <nate> cali roll for example has crab, boston rolls have shrimp, philly rolls have smoked salmon, etc
L526[14:45:17] <jeans> ^Krab
L527[14:45:17] <nate> there's TONS of variants :P
L528[14:45:28] <nate> Some are cooked, some are raw, etc
L529[14:45:39] <jeans> Some don't even have seafood in them!
L530[14:45:46] <nate> indeed
L531[14:46:09] <nate> I've seen sweet potato rolls, chicken rolls, etc
L532[14:48:23] <Draconiator> Too bad you don't have Brook Trout, Flub, thems good eatin fish right there.
L533[14:59:25] <packbart> right, I should start up Fishing Planet once in a while. They added new lakes
L534[15:02:09] <Althego> what the... https://kep.cdn.indexvas.hu/1/0/2680/26807/268073/26807347_2055437_1724a00162a8bb1b66eb75e03f5964c8_wm.jpg
L535[15:02:23] <Althego> a drone of some soert?
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