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L18[04:06:52] <Deddly> Sounds like a
fascinating read, UmbralRaptop
L19[04:07:40] <Deddly> Mat2ch, are they
sure that's not due to heat?
L20[04:09:51] <Deddly> Yes, apparently,
they checked for that
L21[04:09:53] <Deddly> "The
researchers performed a second experiment with a longer fiber and
continuous–rather than pulsed–laser light and found similar
results. The tip of the hanging fiber moved sideways like a
pendulum by about 30 microns, which agreed with the tiny force
(less than a billionth of a Newton) that they predicted. The team
also verified that thermal effects, such as heat expansion, would
be too small to influence the fibe
L22[04:09:54] <Deddly> r’s
movement."
L23[04:10:53] <Deddly> Although not a
definitive answer, it's a very interesting study.
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L25[04:17:07] <Deddly> Yo Fluburtur
L26[04:17:13] <Fluburtur> ay
L27[04:17:20] <Deddly> I'm heading
SOUTH!
L28[04:17:31] <Fluburtur> nice
L29[04:17:40] <Deddly> Due South. That was
a great series, but I digress
L30[04:18:23] <Deddly> 22k fuel
remaining
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L32[04:19:02] <Fluburtur> sounds like
enough
L33[04:19:21] <Deddly> I'm about half way
between the arctic ice sheet and the equator
L34[04:19:33] <Deddly> Noooo more than
that
L35[04:19:38] <Deddly> More like 2/3 of the
way
L36[04:20:30] <Deddly> 28° 37' N
L37[04:20:31] <Fluburtur> how long did the
mission take so far?
L38[04:21:05] <Deddly> I don't know because
the mission timer reset every time I launched one of the auxiliary
craft
L39[04:22:02] <Deddly> Oh heck, and I just
realised I was on a collision course with a land mass
L40[04:22:12] <Deddly> Sailing at night is
dangerous from map view
L41[04:23:22] <Eddi|zuHause> i've tried
reading the link, but i still didn't figure out whether they say
that light increases or reduces momentum in denser material
L42[04:23:44] <Deddly> So it says
"Total mission 10 days 4 hours" but that's only since I
last launched another craft from it
L43[04:24:17] <Deddly> Just so you know,
Fluburtur this is all at 1x physics warp
L44[04:24:23] <Fluburtur> do you have the
date of when you launched the mission?
L45[04:24:45] <Deddly> I do, in another
save. So I'll be able to get the total mission time
L46[04:24:57] <Deddly> Or maybe I have it
in a screenshot...
L47[04:25:47] <packbart> Eddi|zuHause:
"the light gains momentum when it hits the air" - if the
fibre is more dense, it reduced the momentum. that's what I read in
it
L48[04:27:34] <Deddly> No I don't have a
screenshot of the date
L49[04:41:20] <Deddly> I'm gonna crank this
think up to full speed as soon as I get to the last section, if I
have the fuel for it. I'm dying to know how fast it can go.
L50[04:42:07] <Deddly> I've only used two
engines on less than 1/3 throttle for the entire trip, but I needed
six to be able to get it moving when fully fuelled
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L61[07:07:42] <darsie> Time to look for a
Mars transfer window for my great rocket :).
L62[07:09:37] <darsie> Merlin 1D++ +
hypergolic AJ10. Before I used the RL10 (hydrolox) and any excess
would evaporate.
L63[07:10:22] <darsie> Now I can use it for
plane change and Mars orbit insertion.
L64[07:10:28] <JVFoxy> watching some vid on
moon rover buggy thing... didn't realize they wanted to try a
mobile lab for a two week stay up there.
L65[07:11:04] <darsie> SpaceIl?
L66[07:12:52] <JVFoxy> something called
mo-lab..
L67[07:13:16] <darsie> planned?
cancelled?
L68[07:14:05] <JVFoxy> cancelled.. it would
have been 8,000lbs, needing a dedicated Saturn 5 to get it up
there.
L70[07:14:23] <darsie> :)
L71[07:14:27] <darsie> SSSH
L72[07:14:47] <darsie> ahh, 1968
L73[07:15:09] <Althego> super ssh?
L74[07:15:19] <darsie> starship
superheavy
L75[07:15:34] <UmbralRaptop> secure SSH,
obviously
L76[07:16:08] <UmbralRaptop> Hrm. How far
beyond the Titan IIIE would that be?
L78[07:16:11] <kmath> YouTube - Lunar
Rover
L79[07:16:24] *
UmbralRaptop also vaguely gestures at the 34D and IV
L80[07:16:25] <JVFoxy> Molab starts at 7:20
mark if interested
L81[07:19:12] <darsie> If they used that
during a lunar day they would have increased the chance of getting
into a solar storm.
L82[07:20:33] <JVFoxy> layer of water on
the roof would have helped quite a bit
L83[07:20:53] <darsie> Water and piss
:)
L84[07:21:27] <darsie> Or regolith
L85[07:21:33] <JVFoxy> was a lot of
unknowns at the time of the designing. main thing they talked about
was not knowing what the surface was going to be like even.
L86[07:25:35] <JVFoxy> aw... watching
couple of old guys relive toying around with a model moon buggy
they built from back in the day
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L92[07:55:29] <darsie> What level is the
average sea on Phobos? "ASL gravity"=0.00139 g, but
GM/r2/9.81=0.00149 g.
L93[07:57:59] <darsie> Maybe they use
average altitude, which is above the spherical body.
L94[07:59:59] <darsie> Ok, 118 TWR should
be enough :).
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L101[08:39:50] <JVFoxy> 118 TWR.. with or
without kerbals?
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L103[08:43:51] <darsie> without
L104[08:43:57] <darsie> On Phobos
L105[08:44:20] <JVFoxy> was thinking how
many G's it would pull..
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L107[08:44:37] <darsie> 55.7 N * 4, 139
kg.
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L109[08:44:52] <JVFoxy> sorry guess not
fully awake.. ugh
L110[08:45:01] <JVFoxy> wasn't expecting
to be up 4am
L111[08:45:41] <darsie> 0.16 g
L113[08:46:01] <Fluburtur> ;wa energy of
1.8kg at 120kph
L114[08:46:03] <kmath> Fluburtur: kinetic
energy->, mass->1.8 kg (kilograms), velocity->120 km/h
(kilometers per hour)kinetic energy->1 kJ (kilojoule), = 0.2778
W h (watt hours), = 6.242×10^21 eV (electronvolts)
L115[08:46:32] <JVFoxy> uh...
L116[08:48:30] <JVFoxy> oh right TWR more
to do with being close to a surface thing.
L117[08:49:55] <darsie> not really
L118[08:50:03] <darsie> Just the surface
may be different.
L119[08:50:22] <darsie> g is independent
of surface, though.
L120[08:51:15] <JVFoxy> I was wondering
more max accel vs TWR...
L121[08:51:15] <darsie> Weight only exists
if you are attracted to something :).
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L123[08:52:48] <JVFoxy> 118 though.. head
thought that was stupid crazy lot.
L124[08:52:49] <darsie> Well, there's
weight in any accelerated system, I guess. Centrifuges, rockets
...
L125[08:55:40] <JVFoxy> I guess i usually
seen stuff like 2-4TWR...
L126[09:04:58] <darsie> On Earth. Or
Kerbin.
L127[09:05:11] <darsie> Things are
different on Gilly :).
L128[09:08:45] <JVFoxy> did a lander probe
thing for minmus... designed to do a landing, hop to another biome,
then back to control craft. Not sure it can do the same thing on
mun
L129[09:12:15] <darsie> Why would
you?
L130[09:17:38] <JVFoxy> why would I
what?
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L134[09:30:30] <JVFoxy> ugh, stupid
wireless...
L135[09:30:36] <JVFoxy> sorry, why would I
what?
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L137[09:40:34] <Althego> wintergatan
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L143[10:00:50] <darsie> JVFoxy: biome hop
on Mun
L144[10:02:10] <darsie> With a science lab
you can get enough science from Minmus to complete the tech
tree.
L145[10:02:23] <darsie> From 3-4
biomes
L146[10:02:26] <JVFoxy> haven't the lab
yet
L147[10:02:30] <darsie> ok
L149[10:02:31] <kmath> YouTube -
Instrument Dummy Assembly - Marble Machine X#70
L150[10:03:03] <darsie> JVFoxy: You could
land at a triple biome junction.
L151[10:03:23] <JVFoxy> also wanted to
test/show you can control a probe from a ship when out of LOS of
kerbin
L152[10:03:39] <darsie> Jeb can do that
:).
L153[10:03:42] <D-e-d-d-l-y> It's a
perfectly valid mission profile
L154[10:04:01] <Fluburtur> back from
flying the glider, I beat both of my records
L155[10:04:06] <Fluburtur> 1km high and
4km out
L156[10:05:07] <D-e-d-d-l-y> That's
awesome, Fluburtur
L157[10:05:13] <darsie> Definitely. I made
missions after completing the tech tree.
L158[10:05:16] <D-e-d-d-l-y> Must be an
amazing experience
L159[10:05:48] <Fluburtur> video feed
wasnt that great at 1km high because I wasnt far enough and signal
polarisation was a bit of an issue
L160[10:06:02] <Fluburtur> while flying
away it was quite good, signal was horrible on the way home
tho
L161[10:06:11] <Fluburtur> so it did most
of the way home on autopilot
L162[10:06:56] <Fluburtur> I flew the
final 1km while gliding manually at an average speed of 90kph
L163[10:10:50] <JVFoxy> well... jeb +
either another pilot or certain probe cores
L164[10:11:20] <darsie> And a relay
antenna.
L165[10:12:03] <JVFoxy> eh ya.. relay
though I normally add a pair on anyways
L166[10:13:20] <JVFoxy> I had a bit of
head scratching when designing the lander probe that could pack
into a service bay.. then found out was a bit more space for
refueling tanks, batteries, relay and solar panels
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L177[10:34:24] <Althego> where is the
curve? :)
L178[10:34:53] <Fluburtur> well this is a
wide angle lens
L179[10:34:54] <hoglahoo> down the small
of the back
L180[10:35:08] <Fluburtur> so there would
be a curve if the horizon wasnt exactly in the center
L182[10:36:28] <hoglahoo> was that taken
from something you built
L183[10:36:31] <hoglahoo> and
piloted
L184[10:36:41] <Fluburtur> yeah, the plane
is a kit
L185[10:36:52] <hoglahoo> sweet
L186[10:37:17] <JVFoxy> smoke'n
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L198[11:22:41] <Judge_Dedd> Fluburtur, do
you have an easy link for that challenge map? The one in your
thread isn't loading for me
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L200[11:30:19] <Fluburtur> i DONT THINK i
HAVE IT
L201[11:30:55] <Judge_Dedd> Never mind, I
just started working again
L202[11:31:17] <Fluburtur> woops
caps
L203[11:32:17] <Althego> cruise control
for cool :)
L204[11:32:25] <Althego> also fortran
:)
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L206[11:44:57] <Judge_Dedd> Fluburtur, I'm
rounding the last continent between be and KSC
L207[11:45:31] <Judge_Dedd> Just heading
east around the peninsula now, then it's the little upside-down V
and I land at KSC
L208[11:46:59] <hoglahoo> how's fuel
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L210[11:56:23] <Judge_Dedd> 18k, looking
very good
L211[11:56:56] <Judge_Dedd> It took about
7k to get here from the northern ice cap
L212[11:58:34] <Eddi|zuHause> what would
anyone do with a cruise control for fortran?
L213[11:59:02] <Althego> write awesome
code? :)
L214[11:59:16] <Althego> oh wait,
WRITE(*,*) CODE :)
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L230[14:04:50] <darsie> Dang, I forgot to
accept the Deimos/Phobos landing contracts.
L231[14:05:39] *
hoglahoo smacks darsie
L232[14:05:51] <darsie> thx :)
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L234[14:07:09] <darsie> And the flyby
contracts.
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L240[14:41:58] <hoglahoo> ⁵
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L268[19:08:31] <legion> there's a few
things off in that image...
L269[19:08:57] <hoglahoo> lol
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L274[19:12:01] <darsie> So much can go
wrong in spaceflight, I should write a checklist.
L275[19:12:24] <Fluburtur> you should make
a list of things that can go right, would be shorter
L276[19:12:44] <darsie> Now I accepted
contracts and then waited for the next launch window, launched and
the contracts expired.
L277[19:14:09] <darsie> I'm not doing this
for fun. It's for the money. :)
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L282[19:34:23] <taniwha> what contracts
expire before several windows have passed?
L283[19:43:32] <Eddi|zuHause> i've never
played long enough for contracts to expire
L284[20:00:17] <taniwha> I've had some
contracts expire, but I made the mistake of warping for 15
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L291[22:37:47] <lordcirth_> darsie, is
that an inside-out mohole?
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L294[22:42:36] <darsie> yes
L295[22:42:40] <darsie> gn :)
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