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L11[02:22:24] <Althego> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzdtKekUYAADsuU.jpg:large

L12[02:25:49] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqMs9WsJg2k hehehe

L13[02:25:55] <Althego> Pinky And The Brain Theme - Postmodern Jukebox (ft. Emily Goglia, Rob Paulsen, Maurice LaMarche)

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L17[03:52:35] <Rolf> Althego: nice!

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L19[03:56:34] <Eddi|zuHause> are those the original voice actors?

L20[03:56:37] <Althego> yes

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L22[04:00:57] <Mat2ch> yeeeeesssss

L23[04:01:02] <Mat2ch> Althego: a masterpiece!

L24[04:01:42] <Althego> dont tell taht to me

L25[04:01:46] <Althego> i didnt make it

L26[04:03:06] <Althego> i still have 4 genolution implants (ca-1 and ca-2) on sale in dodixie, go buy them

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L38[05:54:35] <Althego> wasnt it von spitz?

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L47[07:59:55] <Althego> hehe "followers of the church of elon"

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L63[10:14:12] <packbart> so, the idea of building a large space station from just an Orbital Workshop docked to an asteroid and some starter resources basically works. It just takes huge amounts of ore

L64[10:14:39] <packbart> I need to find a 3+ kiloton roid to make 100k MaterialKits

L65[10:15:34] <packbart> which then turn into 230 tons of space station

L66[10:18:10] <packbart> 130 tons are already in the kit. that feels weird

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L81[13:55:10] * darsie built a Mars rocket, but now I have to figure out when to launch it, cause the fuel would evaporate if I waited in orbit.

L82[13:59:59] <JVFoxy> Darsie don't have anything like radiator or chiller panels?

L83[14:00:34] <darsie> hmm. no

L84[14:00:37] <JVFoxy> just watched Scott's vid on the proposed moon mission... ouch, 60t craft if going to use a 'gateway' station there?

L85[14:00:59] <darsie> my craft is 39 t.

L86[14:01:04] <Althego> yes, too heavy

L87[14:01:10] <Althego> at least the single stage version

L88[14:01:15] <darsie> for a relay to Mars.

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L90[14:01:32] <JVFoxy> darsie you could try out kerbal alarmclock..

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L92[14:02:27] <darsie> I have that.

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L95[14:02:45] <darsie> KCT uses it.

L96[14:02:49] <JVFoxy> so.. high elliptical orbit would cut down on delta-v needed to get to the station, sure but... puts a bit cost on surface missions

L97[14:03:02] <JVFoxy> ok

L98[14:03:38] * darsie does a test launch.

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L100[14:11:09] <JVFoxy> ok now I really wanna do those ksp videos been meaning to work on...

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L103[14:11:43] <JVFoxy> although.. scott did RO, and now I'm wondering if its worth doing stock still or switching to RO and testing things out.

L104[14:12:10] <darsie> I'd play stock before RO.

L105[14:12:20] <darsie> Maybe a few mods.

L106[14:12:20] <Althego> stock is not really realistic

L107[14:12:32] <darsie> It's a game.

L108[14:12:38] <Althego> sizes, delta v requirements, isps are completely different than reality

L109[14:17:12] <JVFoxy> I know stock is a lot smaller, RO makes it a very different game simply because of the scale

L110[14:18:28] <JVFoxy> its just.. I searched KSP videos on youtube, noticed quite a lot of them don't even have views. Makes me wonder sometimes if its worth it

L111[14:20:37] <Althego> hehe mine dont have views either

L112[14:20:56] <JVFoxy> I've a few already up, but set private...

L113[14:23:33] <JVFoxy> huh... 3 and 4 years ago, to videos I did still private. And one, I streamed for an hour from a year ago...

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L117[15:31:08] <Althego> "this time it aint gonna work, because richard kerman is unconscious, he hasnt moved for 82 years" :)

L118[15:31:18] <Althego> normally that is what we call dead

L119[15:36:09] <sandbox> he's dead, Jim

L120[15:38:16] <Althego> (in a matt lowne video)

L121[15:48:57] <JVFoxy> blep?

L122[15:49:02] <JVFoxy> James.. not Jim

L123[15:50:04] <JVFoxy> eh... well he's James... but anyways.

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L125[15:52:25] <Eddi|zuHause> i've never understood this american habit of nicknames

L126[15:52:36] <Eddi|zuHause> William -> Bill, James -> Jim... ?

L127[15:52:51] <Eddi|zuHause> Richard -> Dick?

L128[15:52:54] <Eddi|zuHause> what? why?

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L130[15:55:26] <JVFoxy> jim, jimmy... jimmie... will, william, willy...

L131[15:55:32] <JVFoxy> willie...

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L136[16:55:29] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186669324500993/546463561417752576/DSC_0527.JPG

L137[16:55:30] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186669324500993/546464264890613763/DSC_0455.JPG

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L142[17:20:35] <Scolar_Visari> Sons and daughters of Kerbin: You wanna know how I got these scars?

L143[17:21:28] <UmbralRaptop> Is there a booster trick?

L144[17:21:41] <UmbralRaptop> (like the pencil trick)

L145[17:22:28] <Scolar_Visari> Well, one day, some one said to me, "Hey, let's mine the Moon for helium-3".

L146[17:24:36] <UmbralRaptop> Now you have two problems

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L148[17:25:05] <Scolar_Visari> So they started sobbing when I told them that helium-3 fusion isn't really a thing, and I wanted to cheer them up. So I took took my knife like THIS and made a new smile and asked them: "Why. So. SERIOUS?"

L149[17:28:21] * Scolar_Visari grumbles at the headlines, "NASA heading back to Moon soon, and this time to stay".

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L151[17:30:46] <Scolar_Visari> That's not so much as counting one's chickens before they hatch but counting one's chickens before chordates come into being.

L152[17:31:14] * UmbralRaptop shouts angrily in LRO, LCROSS, LADEE, and GRAIL

L153[17:32:10] <Scolar_Visari> UmbralRaptop: Well, the articles were referring to new manned missions. Mind you, the proposals for the missions' architectures are due next month.

L154[17:32:59] <UmbralRaptop> Ah. Well, I guess we'll see with those.

L155[17:33:15] <Scolar_Visari> Yeah, I can totally pull out a design reference architecture in a couple of months. It'll be written on the backs of napkins, of course.

L156[17:35:28] <Scolar_Visari> "As you can see on slide number 2, our concept depends on propellant depots in Low Earth and Low Lunar Orbit. Keep in mind that this crayon drawing is merely a pre-visualization and the actual tanker will be to scale with the stick figure seen in the upper left hand corner after our exploratory budget is approved."

L157[17:36:47] * Scolar_Visari severely doubts that the recent announcement will amount to anything.

L158[17:38:22] <UmbralRaptop> Yay for space robots, at least

L159[17:40:28] * Scolar_Visari warily eyes New Glenn and BFR/Starship

L160[17:40:55] <Scolar_Visari> Also, I've worked on it and I think getting to Mars will require, like, six propellant tanker rendezvous for a Starship.

L161[17:41:09] <Scolar_Visari> Why u no propellant depot!?

L162[17:43:17] <UmbralRaptop> Something something lunar mining?

L163[17:43:49] <Scolar_Visari> Lunar volatiles mining be more difficult than Mars volatiles mining.

L164[17:44:30] <Scolar_Visari> At least that precious, precious water on Mars doesn't hide.

L165[17:49:33] <UmbralRaptop> well, yes

L166[17:50:23] <bees> nuclear thermal mars hopper pls:(

L167[17:51:05] <darsie> What is the OBT parameter in the set orbit cheat menu? (There are 7 parameters instead of 6).

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L170[17:52:56] <UmbralRaptop> uh, pic? (not at a machine that runs KSP)

L171[17:53:32] <darsie> http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot135.png

L172[17:55:24] <darsie> I could see what it does.

L173[17:56:45] <UmbralRaptop> Yeah. I'm not sure =\

L174[17:57:52] <darsie> ok

L175[17:58:26] <darsie> Or I just ignore it. The others are what defines teh orbit, I think.

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L177[18:00:17] <Scolar_Visari> bees: There will at least be a mini-chopper.

L178[18:06:02] * Scolar_Visari glares at the Mars Helicopter Scout.

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L183[18:25:19] <Scolar_Visari> None may leave the Garden https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1902/thor_LHORHGOBO_final.jpg

L184[18:28:06] <darsie> OBT doesn't do anything noticable.

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L188[19:00:28] * darsie cheated a tiny marker craft into a specific orbit that allows a Mars maneuver without plane change and will aim for that orbit with the Mars relay rocket.

L189[19:00:44] <darsie> Mars encounter*

L190[19:01:14] <darsie> "cheated"

L191[19:01:20] <darsie> KVIrc swallowed the "" again.

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L200[19:29:53] * Scolar_Visari still ponders what, exactly, it is that SpaceX has against propellant depots.

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L203[19:58:04] <lordcirth> Scolar_Visari, how so?

L204[20:18:54] <Rolf> vurious also

L205[20:19:43] <darsie> What's the point of depots if you can bring propellant up on demand?

L206[20:21:23] <Scolar_Visari> The problem is that Starship is projected to stay in orbit and wait for tankers, and this means there's a reduced margin of error. A delay or launch failure without a huge amount of contingency times could mean you'd miss your launch window.

L207[20:22:10] <Scolar_Visari> It also means Starship has to hold more contingencies in crew consumables and stationkeeping propellant as it waits in orbit. If there was a propellant depot, you'd just need to dock once and then depart.

L208[20:23:03] <darsie> ok

L209[20:23:43] <Scolar_Visari> A propellant depot arguably need just be a Starship with the crew compartments ripped out.

L210[20:24:16] <Scolar_Visari> And since it doesn't need to reenter, a reflective boil-off mitigating surface in lieu of heat shielding in addition to active refrigeration.

L211[20:29:33] *** ObservatoryRaptor is now known as CursedRaptor

L212[20:30:54] <Scolar_Visari> The observatory is cursed!?

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L214[20:31:42] <CursedRaptor> Something like that

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L216[20:32:03] <CursedRaptor> The software, uh, really died.

L217[20:32:13] <Scolar_Visari> The power of Herschel compels you! The power of Herschel compels you! Begone spirit!

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