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L25[03:18:04] <UA-109769140-1>
Finally
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L27[03:18:38] <deargod> Dear GOD/GODS
and/or anyone else who can HELP ME (e.g. MEMBERS OF
SUPER-INTELLIGENT ALIEN CIVILIZATIONS): The next time I wake up,
please change my physical form to that of FINN MCMILLAN of SOUTH
NEW BRIGHTON at 8 YEARS OLD and keep it that way FOREVER. I am so
sick of this chubby Asian man body! Thank you! - CHAUL JHIN KIM
(a.k.a. A DESPERATE SOUL)
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L29[03:40:48] <Althego> lol
L31[03:51:34] <Althego> hehe
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L33[04:21:35] <Rolf> okkay lol
L34[04:22:12] <Rolf> i'd rather be 25 years
old forever
L35[04:22:16] <Rolf> 8 is ehh
L36[04:22:37] <Rolf> i'd lack few
entertainment avenues
L37[04:33:50] <Mat2ch> No driving for
you!
L38[04:33:54] <Mat2ch> I take the 23
:P
L39[04:34:04] <Rolf> uhh yeah driving
L40[04:34:11] <Rolf> one of em yeah
L41[04:36:21] <Mat2ch> Riding all
rollercoasters!
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L44[04:44:37] <Eddi|zuHause> imagine going
to 2nd grade forever
L45[04:46:22] <Rolf> not really
L46[04:46:35] <Rolf> unless memory is also
reset annually. ouch.
L47[04:47:16] <Eddi|zuHause> maybe like
groundhog day
L48[04:47:29] <Eddi|zuHause> you remember,
but everyone else just treats you like a child
L49[04:47:54] <Rolf> thats universe reset
annually thats even worse'
L50[04:48:02] <Rolf> no serious possible
new experences.
L51[04:51:17] <Mat2ch> Groundhog Day
becomes a true horror movie, if you think about what he achieves
and learns and even masters
L52[04:51:32] <sandbox> majora's mask
L53[04:51:33] <Mat2ch> He must have spent
years in this loop
L55[04:52:20] <kmath> YouTube -
"Archange" - Ace Combat 7 Original Soundtrack
L57[05:04:44] <Mat2ch> darsie: eh, global
warming. Too many rocket launches and nothing to absorb the
emissions.
L58[05:04:55] <darsie> mhm
L59[05:07:55] <darsie> I heard spacex uses
fossil methan instead of biogas from fermentation of waste
biomatter.
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L77[07:34:50] <Althego> hah, after tim
russ, next week konstantin batygin on event horizon
L78[07:35:07] <Althego> because we need a
plaanet 9
L79[07:36:47] <UmbralRaptop> He's done
other things!
L80[07:38:38] <KrazyKrl> if when you even
can be when they about did much would.
L81[07:41:17] <Althego> what
L84[07:42:29] <UmbralRaptop> I think with
more digging I can find something about hot jupiters interacting
with stellar magnetic fields?
L85[07:43:30] <Althego> lol there is a
channel with space weather report
L87[07:44:46] <Althego> seems it is
actually real
L88[07:44:54] <KrazyKrl> Space Weather: No
clouds. Wind: 0 kph. Barometer: 0 mb. Visibility: Unlimited
L89[07:46:34] <Althego> not exactly
L90[07:47:37] <UmbralRaptop> wind: 100s of
km/s, mostly ionized hydrogen
L91[07:48:16] <UmbralRaptop> But there are
fluctuations, particularly from coronal mass ejections
L92[07:49:03] <KrazyKrl> yes, but
attempting to use any type of wind measurement device literally
would not work due to lack of atmosphere.
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L96[09:05:24] <Althego> this month 2019-02
[Rocket Lab Ltd] Rocket Lab Ltd Electron DARPA R3D2
L97[09:05:31] <Althego> hehe it is almost
r2d2
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L116[10:41:07] <packbart> Carnards?
L117[10:41:33] <Althego> installed by car
nerds?
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L123[11:37:28] <UmbralRaptop> canards are
when you duck tape a distraction to the front of your
aircraft
L124[11:52:21] <Althego> dont make tapes
out of poor ducks
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L131[12:17:00] <KrazyKrl> Canards keep
your airplane in control, because the rear of your plane doesn't
want to get punished like the front.
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L133[12:22:19] <transitbiker> bwoop
L134[12:22:48] <transitbiker> so is it
just my copy, or does the new ksp take up 6 gigs of memory
idle?
L135[12:28:27] <hoglahoo> mine’s 5.6 or
something at start up
L136[12:28:35] <transitbiker> insane
L137[12:28:42] <transitbiker> 1.3 was like
2 gigs
L138[12:28:55] <transitbiker> private
bloat division much
L139[12:31:20] <hoglahoo> mine’s
1.2.2
L140[12:31:31] <transitbiker> i have
1.5.1
L141[12:31:51] <hoglahoo> win7 reports
5,747,136 K
L142[12:32:18] <transitbiker> every time i
got ot place a part on larger crafts, it freezes for a moment
L143[12:32:39] <KrazyKrl> running a
bajillionty mods?
L144[12:32:48] <transitbiker> stock
vanilla
L145[12:33:20] <transitbiker> only 342
parts
L146[12:35:33] <Althego> 3.7 gigs for me
in the hangar
L147[12:35:42] <Althego> with the
dlc
L148[12:35:46] <transitbiker>
-looks-
L149[12:36:10] <transitbiker> 4.5 in the
vab editing a craft
L150[12:36:17] <transitbiker> it was up
over 6 before
L151[12:36:35] <KrazyKrl> I mean, i'd be
more worried about the game thrashing with the garbage collector;
or the game literally eating all the ram, forcing file swaps.
L152[12:36:40] <KrazyKrl> your ram is
there to be used.
L153[12:36:58] <transitbiker> yeah, but i
only got 12 gig
L154[12:37:09] <KrazyKrl> but are you out
of physical ram?
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L156[12:37:45] <KrazyKrl> hitching when
placing a part sounds like the game needs to dynamically load the
part, which an SSD would probably fix.
L157[12:38:01] <KrazyKrl> massive RAM
usage isn't a problem, unless it's leaking, or if you run out of
resources.
L158[12:38:17] <transitbiker> 6.85 used
with "11466" mb total
L159[12:38:37] <KrazyKrl> if the game is
sanely built, it should free up ram when it approaches the limit...
that's the ENTIRE POINT of ram, a cache.
L160[12:38:46] <KrazyKrl> unused cache is
wasted capacity
L161[12:39:04] <transitbiker> this
computer needs a graphics card, and way more memory
L162[12:39:15] <transitbiker> prolly
another 12 gig
L163[12:39:43] <KrazyKrl> why the weird
ammount of ram? not running dual/quad channel?
L164[12:39:49] <transitbiker> have to look
at current specs and price out the options
L165[12:39:53] <transitbiker> i have no
idea
L166[12:40:05] <transitbiker> it's an amd
APU system
L167[12:40:31] <Althego> hehe
L168[12:40:39] <transitbiker> i'm thinking
a gpu could free up thermal capacity on the main chip by taking
graphics workload off
L169[12:41:03] <Althego> at least this
year amd fights back against intel very hard. as long as neither of
them wins, it is good of us
L170[12:41:10] <transitbiker> i do think
it may be thermal throttling as well as the ram getting full
L171[12:41:16] <transitbiker> hm
L172[12:41:28] <transitbiker> no clue, i'm
a mac guy myself
L173[12:41:30] <Althego> hehe, it occured
to me i am talking like the grey witch in record of lodoss wars
:)
L174[12:41:49] <KrazyKrl> not using the
max number of channels of ram on an APU will significantly hurt
performance.
L175[12:41:59] <KrazyKrl> since the APU
uses RAM as VRAM
L176[12:42:08] <transitbiker> i'd love to
upgrade my mac pro to 3 ghz quad core zeons, tho
L177[12:42:26] <transitbiker> up from the
dual core 2.66 ghz
L178[12:42:35] <transitbiker> board can
handle it
L179[12:42:41] <Althego> even if you are
using a mac, it is just an intel pc
L180[12:42:42] <KrazyKrl> even in a
regular system, running single-channel instead of dual-channel is a
15%+ performance hit.
L181[12:42:48] <transitbiker> psu is 950
watts, so that can handle it
L182[12:43:25] <transitbiker> it's 13
years old, so... i'm just happy i can run relatively newer apps on
it
L183[12:43:32] <transitbiker> minecraft
for example
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L185[12:43:51] <Althego> that is a really
old age for a computer
L186[12:44:09] <KrazyKrl> that's insanely
old, is it at least x64 compatable?
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L188[12:44:20] <transitbiker> if i did the
cpu upgrade, and maxed the ram, i think i'd like to get some dust
filters on the fans, because whole case filters arent
happening
L189[12:44:32] <transitbiker> its a 1.1
mac pro
L190[12:44:37] <transitbiker> 2006
L191[12:45:38] <transitbiker> ironically
enough, due to the way apple handles airflow, nothing really gets
that dusty to begin with, aside from the gpu intake, which can look
like a lint catcher in a dryer if you're not careful
L192[12:46:04] <transitbiker> however,
with increased thermal loads, i don't want dust in the mix if i can
help it
L193[12:46:27] <transitbiker> just a
couple simple screens over the psu intake, and the two front case
fans
L194[12:46:36] <KrazyKrl> the mac 1.1 has
a 32 bit EFI boot... wat.
L195[12:46:56] <transitbiker> that
actually has a workaround which i would love to undertake
L196[12:47:31] <KrazyKrl> you're also
limited to super old versions of mac OS due to that... but people
say it's win7/win10/linux compatable.
L197[12:47:38] <transitbiker> updated
intel thingie
L198[12:47:50] <transitbiker> 10.7.5
currently, good enough for me
L199[12:48:07] <transitbiker> it is -i
want to put a second hard drive with mint on it
L200[12:48:21] <transitbiker> been
following mint's develpment for a long time now
L201[12:48:38] <Althego> negative
imaginary?
L202[12:48:45] <transitbiker> hm?
L203[12:48:51] <Althego> -i :)
L204[12:49:01] <transitbiker> oh no just
sloppy typing
L205[12:49:14] <transitbiker> berklee
internet radio has some great content
L206[12:49:17] <Eddi|zuHause>
<transitbiker> 2006 <-- that was around the time when
apple switched to intel?
L207[12:50:06] <Althego> i heard they are
going to transition to arm or something
L208[12:50:13] <transitbiker> 2004-2006,
they moved through the product line one bit at a time
L209[12:50:36] <transitbiker> the powermac
was the last thng to get the intel treatment
L210[12:50:42] <Althego> bit it is just
marginally interesting to me, because it hurts intel, which is
already down
L211[12:50:52] <transitbiker> i think the
imac was the first to go intel
L212[12:51:14] <transitbiker> imac,
macbook, powerbook, mac pro, in that order - i think
L213[12:51:36] <transitbiker> oh and the
mac mini, i think that was done in line with the macbook pro, as
they use the same board
L214[12:51:55] <KrazyKrl> something like
that... the last mac i used was mac os 9. i dumped mac shortly
after.
L215[12:52:08] <Eddi|zuHause>
<transitbiker> imac, macbook, powerbook, mac pro, in that
order - i think <-- i have no clue what those words mean
L216[12:52:16] <Althego> hehe
L217[12:52:21] <Althego> religious
talk
L218[12:52:24] <Althego> should be stopped
:)
L219[12:52:41] <transitbiker> os9, my
ibook dual usb runs that and 10.1
L220[12:53:18] <transitbiker> i have both
ends of the white ibook line, a ibook G4 1.33 ghz, and the first
one, he 500 mhz G3 dual usb
L221[12:53:22] <Eddi|zuHause> how old is
os9? win95?
L222[12:53:40] <transitbiker> os9 is not
really related to windows 95
L223[12:53:44] <transitbiker> in
timeline
L224[12:54:00] <transitbiker> it was more
of a gap-filler till they figured out how to keep apple
afloat
L225[12:54:00] <KrazyKrl> 1999
L226[12:54:16] <Eddi|zuHause> so more like
win98
L227[12:54:16] <KrazyKrl> that's when they
came out with the new fruity colored translucent imacs.
L228[12:54:25] <transitbiker> 8.5 was the
majority os at the time
L229[12:54:38] <transitbiker> mhm
L230[12:54:54] <KrazyKrl> 8.6, but
yes
L231[12:55:10] <transitbiker> mac os9 was
very weird... the later versions actually do not boot on the older
machines that can run 9.0
L232[12:55:26] <transitbiker> even though
the chipset was virtually the same
L233[12:56:12] <KrazyKrl> i didn't have a
problem running it... but later versions of mac os 9 had that weird
carbon thing for interoperability with mac os X
L234[12:56:39] <transitbiker> yes, that is
it exactly
L235[12:58:48] <transitbiker> mac os grew
very organically till osx launched
L236[12:59:20] <Eddi|zuHause> so... like
win98 :p
L237[12:59:26] <Althego> as any
software
L238[12:59:38] <KrazyKrl> if by
"organic" you mean "a bunch of proprietary
garbage"... then yes.
L239[13:00:10] <transitbiker> mac os up
till 10 was like a hobby for apple vs a srs thing, very reactive
and sloppy even
L240[13:00:13] <transitbiker> mhm :D
L241[13:00:22] <KrazyKrl> their keyboard
connectors were literally PS/2 connectors with the little plastic
part rotated 90 degrees.
L242[13:00:26] <transitbiker> thats it
exactly
L243[13:00:32] <transitbiker> yes
L244[13:00:48] <transitbiker> it was like
"buy all apple stuff or go to hell"
L245[13:00:50] <Althego> hehe typical they
wanted to control people by the connectors
L246[13:00:59] <Eddi|zuHause> and that's
different to today how?
L247[13:01:08] <transitbiker> usbc isnt an
apple thing
L248[13:01:09] <Althego> yes they still do
that
L249[13:01:13] <transitbiker> -.-
L250[13:01:21] <transitbiker> disagree
hard
L251[13:01:21] <KrazyKrl> i remember
playing brood war on it... i had to command-click the single mouse
button to rightclick.
L252[13:01:23] <Eddi|zuHause> "no,
you can't have a headphone jack"
L253[13:01:37] <Althego> yesthat
L254[13:01:43] <Althego> buy these dongles
instead
L255[13:01:44] <transitbiker> and now half
of the smartphones do not have a headphone jack
L256[13:01:50] <Althego> and that is still
wrong
L257[13:01:56] <Althego> no headphone, no
buy
L258[13:01:58] <Althego> that simple for
me
L259[13:02:29] <transitbiker> well, the
future is fewer points of egress for water/dust, and maximum slim
and battery
L260[13:02:40] <Althego> nobody wants a
slim phone
L261[13:02:46] <Althego> they want a
longer battey life phone
L262[13:02:51] <Althego> so why are they
sliming it down?
L263[13:03:04] <transitbiker> mark my
words, there will be a phone that comes out that is 1/8th inch or
thinner in the next 2 years
L264[13:03:05] <Althego> we were fine
without water resistant phones for dcades, not important
L265[13:03:17] <KrazyKrl> oled rollable
phones.
L266[13:03:21] <Althego> they push
unimportant misfeatures on us and take away the feature
L267[13:03:33] <Althego> obviosuly there
will be one
L268[13:03:44] <Althego> the question is,
do we want it?
L269[13:03:46] <Althego> no
L270[13:03:54] <KrazyKrl> look at how thin
and light it is! oh fyi you'll need to double the weight you carry
because you need that charger at all times
L271[13:03:59] <transitbiker> if there was
a magsafe jack for audio, i'd opt for that... so many times i hurt
my ears pulling the cord
L272[13:04:10] <KrazyKrl> also we glued in
the battery because lol.
L273[13:04:17] <Althego> the smartphone
market is saturated already, they have to come up with something
good for people to buy those
L274[13:04:35] <Althego> for example,
older stuff, when the word smartphone didnt even exist
L275[13:04:39] <Althego> i could drop
them
L276[13:04:41] <Althego> nothing
happene
L277[13:04:46] <Althego> now they are thin
and metal
L278[13:04:49] <Althego> yet they are
damaged
L279[13:04:54] <Althego> so you have to
put a case on them
L280[13:05:00] <Althego> andthat makes
them thick again
L281[13:05:01] <Eddi|zuHause> didn't
france want to push a law saying you can't glue in batteries?
L282[13:05:03] <Althego> pointless
stuff
L283[13:05:06] <transitbiker> apple
ditched the floppy - where is the floppy now? in archivist's
offices only
L284[13:05:25] <Althego> not because of
apple
L285[13:05:34] <Althego> storage
technologies outevolved themselves
L286[13:05:44] <Althego> no removable
media this way today
L287[13:05:50] <Eddi|zuHause> apple had
literally zero influence on the presence of floppies
L288[13:05:52] <Althego> at best an usb
stick, but normally you dont even need that
L289[13:05:58] <transitbiker> apple isnt
always right, or always 100% right when they do get it right, but
when they are right, the industry follows
L290[13:06:08] <KrazyKrl> microsd or even
M.2 lol.
L291[13:06:23] <Althego> yes that is why
we have firewire now. oh wait :)
L292[13:06:34] <KrazyKrl> that's why all
the CPUs are now CISC.
L293[13:06:38] <transitbiker> firewire was
a joint venture with intel
L294[13:06:54] <Eddi|zuHause> doesn't make
it better :p
L295[13:07:08] <transitbiker> firewire as
a protocol lives on in supercomputer interlinks
L296[13:07:19] <transitbiker> 1600
gb/s
L297[13:07:37] <transitbiker> fiber
channel
L298[13:07:39] <Althego> anyway, apple is
not good in any measure, overpriced, has vendor lock in, and
refuses to repair or sell parts, so you can only buy a new
one
L299[13:07:43] <Althego> all in all a
horrible company
L300[13:07:47] <KrazyKrl> walled garden
LLC
L301[13:07:52] <Althego> oh yes and they
not really innovative
L302[13:08:08] <Althego> in other words, a
religious cult
L303[13:08:44] <KrazyKrl> hey... what
other laptop manufacturer doesn't treat their laptops to be liquid
resistant?
L304[13:08:48] <Eddi|zuHause> apples last
serious innovation was 10 years ago
L305[13:08:59] <Althego> yes, they are not
water resistant to the point
L306[13:09:10] <Althego> that a single
drop of water atthe edge of the board can burn out your cpu
L307[13:09:25] <KrazyKrl> My PPBus is no
longer G3Hot
L308[13:09:26] <Althego> also theboards
have fuses which never blow
L309[13:09:28] <Eddi|zuHause> IP65
laptop
L310[13:09:30] <Althego> exactly
L311[13:09:33] <Althego> louis rossman
ftw
L312[13:09:46] <KrazyKrl> thunderbolt
shouldn't throw ACTUAL thunderbolts.
L313[13:09:51] <Althego> hehe
L314[13:10:07] <Althego> also destroys the
board, because why not
L315[13:10:30] <transitbiker> ... you
fellas ok?
L316[13:10:40] <KrazyKrl> well, they
practically melt themselves to death anyhow...
L317[13:10:43] <Althego> and i forgot to
mention the series of failures that they never fix from generation
to generation
L318[13:10:54] <Althego> hehe, the ic that
melts itself out
L319[13:11:05] <KrazyKrl> hey now... don't
be bringing legitimate class action lawsuits in here.
L320[13:11:16] <Althego> and their fix is
a rubber sticker on it, so that the casing presses it down onto the
board
L321[13:11:45] <Althego> yes apple is bad
hardware with good marketing and cult followers
L322[13:12:00] <KrazyKrl> hinges,
butterfly keyboard switches, overheating, messed up BGA chips, no
liquid resistance on a portable product...
L323[13:12:06] <transitbiker> has not been
my experience
L324[13:12:24] <Althego> the screns with
the flex cables manufactured toogether with them making them
unreplacable
L325[13:12:30] <Althego> and of course the
cables die
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L327[13:12:52] <Althego> i guess the flood
of truth hurts sometimes
L328[13:13:00] <KrazyKrl> oh yea... and if
you try to replace the screen, it becomes both counterfeit with
genuine parts; and it becomes a PC!
L329[13:13:08] <Althego> haha
L330[13:13:34] <Althego> horrible
companies like this shouldnt exist
L331[13:13:36] <KrazyKrl> it would
actually be funny if it was untrue...
L332[13:13:41] <Althego> at least ea is
taking some flak right now
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L356[16:11:55] <NeilKerban> I kinda wish
there was a lock out for certain stages so you don't ditch your
engine while in space
L357[16:14:03] <UmbralRaptop> mod+L, or
something that engages automatically when reaching a certain
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L365[16:40:36] <NeilKerban> how hard is
docking?
L366[16:41:48] <Eclipser> not very, just
do it very very slowly
L367[16:42:47] <NeilKerban> I guess I
maybe dont even have to dock to do this
L368[16:42:59] <NeilKerban> I have a
contract to rescue Ernie
L369[16:43:06] <NeilKerban> he's orbiting
Kerbin in a pod
L370[16:43:16] <NeilKerban> I don't
imagine there would be a docking port on it
L371[16:43:18] <Eclipser> you can just get
near him and move him to your pod
L372[16:43:26] <NeilKerban> roger
L373[16:43:57] <Eclipser> at least last
time I did that kind of contract -.-
L374[16:44:25] <NeilKerban> i'll see what
I can do
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L409[22:39:29] <sasamj> I used the sync on
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L410[22:58:18] <sasamj> i have no idea why
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L411[22:58:29] <sasamj> i think it messes
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