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L4[00:27:25] <JVFoxy> sigh.. I had an
earlier version...
L5[00:35:58] <Neal> JVFoxy, xp10?
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L10[01:13:32] <JVFoxy> sorry...
L11[01:13:36] <JVFoxy> no way
earlier..
L12[01:13:51] <JVFoxy> I don't remember
which version.. single digits
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L26[02:49:10] <Rolf> wow new danny
video
L27[02:49:17] <Rolf> preview of next is...
interesting
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L30[04:00:19] <Mat2ch> Rolf: liiiiiiinnnkk
;)
L31[04:00:33] <Rolf> sure a sec
L33[04:00:54] <kmath> YouTube - Quick
Update aka "WHEN IS NEXT VIDEO?!"
L34[04:02:29] <Mat2ch> so Danny got KSP to
draw zickzack orbit lines :D
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L36[04:07:42] <Rolf> an weirdly glitchy
world
L37[04:08:04] <Rolf> looked like mountains
were reeeally tall? dunno
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L52[05:19:26] <CaptainN> Merry
Christmas!
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L56[05:58:41] <Rolf> merry xmas
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L58[06:09:22] <mib_3grhuo> is anybody
playing ksp on ps4?
L59[06:09:35] <Althego> we saw somebody
last week :)
L60[06:10:35] <mib_3grhuo> my computer died
where i had ksp installed, so my last resort is my ps4, but i have
read really good and bad reviews
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L62[06:11:02] <mib_3grhuo> i am unsure
whether it is worth it...
L63[06:11:18] <Althego> lags behind several
versions
L64[06:11:40] <Althego> and a separate team
is making it
L65[06:11:48] <Althego> not that there is
much left from the original ksp team
L66[06:12:51] <mib_3grhuo> i dont really
care about it lagging behind some version as long as its
playable
L67[06:13:31] <mib_3grhuo> have you ever
played it on ps4?
L68[06:13:55] <Althego> no, i dont go near
consoles because of the deadly radiation
L69[06:14:32] <mib_3grhuo> i understand ;)
have a good christmas time!
L71[06:14:57] <Rolf> deadly rads? :P
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L73[06:15:22] <Althego> causes brain
damage, testicular cancer and death
L74[06:16:28] <Rolf> so consoles has
uranium? or maybe tritium?
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L76[06:22:41] <Rolf> you need ionizing
radation. which means alpha or beta emitter in least. nothing in
any console has such.
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L78[06:27:04] <Gasher_> it's not in a
console - it's in the head :)
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L86[07:16:17] <Eddi|zuHause> it could have
a gamma laser?
L87[07:17:04] <Eddi|zuHause> Althego: the
good news is that it's not worse than that cellphone tower next
door
L88[07:17:10] <darsie> I heard gamma
(x-ray?) lasers can be pumped with nukes.
L89[07:21:01] <Eddi|zuHause> the most
radioactive thing you might find in an average house is the starter
of a "neon" lighting tube
L90[07:21:44] *
darsie 's house is not average :).
L92[07:22:34] <kubi> hehe
L93[07:22:38] <kubi> old wristwatches
L94[07:22:51] <darsie> The watch in the
double bag is very active.
L95[07:23:18] <darsie> Trying to contain
the radon till it decays before it seeps out.
L96[07:23:21] <kubi> granite slabs are cool
too
L97[07:23:33] <kubi> here it is all
around
L98[07:23:50] <kubi> cellars are usually
full of radon gas
L99[07:24:06] <kubi> --> living on the
fifth floor
L100[07:24:14] <darsie> same
L101[07:24:15] <kubi> but mostly because
of sunlight
L102[07:24:36] <darsie> What floor is at
ground level?
L103[07:24:55] <kubi> 1 in this
building
L105[07:27:03] <darsie> yeah :)
L106[07:27:49] <darsie> I couldn't detect
banana radiation, even in a supermarket shelf.
L107[07:28:03] <darsie> Leaves wrapped
around the GM tube were detectable.
L108[07:28:04] <Rolf> yet it is definitely
radioactive due to possemium
L109[07:28:09] <Rolf> in fact WE are
radioactive
L110[07:28:12] <darsie> potassium ;)
L111[07:28:13] <Rolf> just tiny
number
L112[07:28:21] <Rolf> yeah some elements i
cant spell
L113[07:28:26] <darsie> about 7000
Bq/human.
L114[07:28:39] <Rolf> I have to do it the
hard way, memorize. only way I can spell stuff lol
L115[07:28:54] <darsie> Can you say it
properly?
L116[07:29:07] <Eddi|zuHause> the question
isn't really "is X radioactive" but "how much above
the background radiation?"
L117[07:29:14] <Rolf> theoretically? my
voice certainly works.,
L118[07:29:24] <Rolf> so others say anyway
lol
L119[07:29:36] <darsie> Try it. Say
potassium :).
L120[07:29:44] <Rolf> i dont know any
spoken language
L121[07:29:54] <Eddi|zuHause> Rolf: how
often are other people present when you say element names
outloud?
L122[07:29:55] <darsie> Are you a bot?
:)
L123[07:30:08] <Rolf> why would you think
that?
L124[07:30:17] <darsie> <Rolf> i
dont know any spoken language
L125[07:30:25] <Rolf> well thats truthful
statement yes
L126[07:31:35] <Rolf> I have been born
deaf so I learned one signed language
L127[07:31:35] <kubi> potassium is a
stupid name
L128[07:31:39] <kubi> it is kalium
L129[07:31:40] <darsie> ic
L130[07:32:55] <Eddi|zuHause> there are
alledgedly people who learned to speak besides being deaf
L131[07:33:55] <darsie> Maybe you could
look at frequency patterns of your speech or get feedback from
voice recognicion software or humans.
L132[07:34:31] <Rolf> why?
L133[07:34:46] <darsie> Speaking is
useful.
L134[07:34:55] <Rolf> i have perfectly
functional sign language and written english
L135[07:34:59] <darsie> ok
L136[07:35:02] <Rolf> I lived with those
for last 42 years
L137[07:35:24] <Eddi|zuHause> it would
probably only be useful to attempt that with children
L138[07:36:03] <Rolf> much depends on
context also
L139[07:36:03] <Eddi|zuHause> i don't know
how that compares to trying to learn a foreign language
L140[07:36:11] <Rolf> my entire family is
deaf so yeah
L142[07:37:17] *
darsie didn't read that article.
L143[07:38:24] <darsie> But I guess I'm
not the first one to suggest this in 42 years.
L144[07:38:32] <Rolf> yeah not going to
bother. yeah :)
L145[07:38:46] <Eddi|zuHause> a friend of
mine works at a hearing aid company, and he told me this story
about a family who visited his office, where both parents are deaf,
and they wanted to figure out if their baby was deaf as well. when
that test came out as "probably deaf", he talked to them
about cochlea implants, and they were staring back at him like he
was frankenstein
L146[07:39:14] <darsie> hehe
L147[07:39:29] <Rolf> heh thats kinda of
very bad topic to ask in any deaf community
L148[07:39:51] <darsie> My aunt has
electrodes in her brain to dampen her Parkinsons.
L149[07:40:39] <Eddi|zuHause> Rolf: i
imagine that topic comes up more and more often as technology in
BCI areas is progressing
L150[07:41:18] <Rolf> its very strange,
since choice means person should be in least 13 before asking if
want em
L151[07:41:34] <Rolf> but brain needs
implants to develop hearing centers well before 13 years old.
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L153[07:41:52] <Rolf> there is severial
surgeries across kid life to fit bigger size ones
L154[07:42:08] <Rolf> means hopsital visit
few times before adult and stop grow
L155[07:43:33] <Eddi|zuHause> it might
very well be a case for the state to come in and override parent's
wish for the well-being of the child, but i won't take a stand on
that either way
L156[07:44:01] <Rolf> I dont know, i do
predict end of deaf culture in approx 100 to 200 years
L157[07:44:07] <Rolf> gene engineering ya
know
L158[07:44:16] <Rolf> no more waardenbergs
syndome
L159[07:44:26] <Rolf> as well as many
other genetic causes
L160[07:44:38] <Eddi|zuHause> that might
be overestimating things, but certain causes of deafness will turn
out to be treatable, yes
L161[07:44:48] <Rolf> whats left is people
who become deaf by other ways and tend grow up hearing so want ci
or whatever
L162[07:45:21] <Rolf> i just hope some
stuff is preserved, like method to do no voice commucation. would
be useful with radar broken in water or vacuum
L163[07:46:21] <Eddi|zuHause> i imagine
that will become more of a niche thing, but i don't think it's
going to die out
L164[07:46:49] <Eddi|zuHause> i mean,
there's things like that flag alphabet they are using at
airfields
L165[07:47:25] <Rolf> bit of interesting
history if youre an american
L166[07:47:32] <Rolf> the football huddle?
started with deaf
L167[07:47:45] <Rolf> refees signs? by
deaf sportman
L168[07:48:04] <Rolf> they realized they
liked those since its clear so those kept on
L169[07:48:19] <kubi> hmm
L170[07:48:27] <kubi> what happened to the
parachutes?
L171[07:48:44] <kubi> some 1.5 mod makes
1.6 parachutes disappear
L173[07:48:58] <Eddi|zuHause> i found that
not all kerbals have parachutes
L174[07:49:09] <Eddi|zuHause> but no clear
rule when they get them
L175[07:49:13] <Eddi|zuHause> some said
with 3 stars
L176[07:49:20] <kubi> not that
L177[07:49:23] <Eddi|zuHause> but i had
some with less than 3 stars
L178[07:49:33] <kubi> cone and radial
chutes
L179[07:49:50] <Eddi|zuHause> oh,
those
L180[07:49:55] <Rolf> less than 3 stars
dont care if fall and die eh? lol
L181[07:49:57] <Eddi|zuHause> are they
reworked parts?
L182[07:50:08] <kubi> I'm not sure
L183[07:50:21] <Eddi|zuHause> i haven't
tried running 1.6 yet
L184[07:50:23] <kubi> I have seti
rebalance and other stuff installed from 1.5
L185[07:50:42] <Eddi|zuHause> things might
have moved in the tech tree?
L186[07:50:47] <kubi> I have high hopes
due to better memory management
L187[07:50:56] <kubi> I do not want to buy
8G more
L188[07:51:07] <kubi> I have looked deep
in the tech tree
L189[07:51:24] <Eddi|zuHause> too
deep?
L190[07:51:36] <kubi> hahh
L191[07:51:40] <kubi> now they are
back
L192[07:51:44] <kubi> reload...
L193[07:51:48] <Eddi|zuHause> but if you
mention seti, that would be the first thing i would suspect being
wrong here
L194[07:52:30] <packbart> only mod problem
I had in 1.6 was with ModuleManager itself and the Mk2 Lander Can.
everything else still works
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L196[08:05:44] <darsie> I made screen
shots of my graphics settings before I minimized them. Will I have
trouble restoring them in 1.6?
L197[08:06:29] <darsie> Needed to speed up
the game for my 10,000 part build.
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L200[08:25:58] <kmath> YouTube -
High-speed camera mounted on a spinning lawnmower blade
L201[08:26:10] <Althego> now this is mad
scientist level
L202[08:26:17] <Althego> why ould anybody
think of this
L203[08:30:37] <Althego> and i thought
smoke detectors are radioactive, at least some of them
L204[08:36:24] <darsie> Some are.
L205[08:36:29] <darsie> See my radiactives
pic.
L206[08:36:43] <Althego> you all managed
to talk a lot while i was sleeping
L207[08:36:45] <darsie> I got them via
aliexpress.
L208[08:37:35] *
darsie is on 1.6 and still got fancy soap bubble reflections on
some parts.
L209[08:45:09] <Althego> but there are
like 2 shiny parts altogether
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L217[09:40:42] <darsie> 1.6 crashed
L218[09:40:54] <darsie> after minimizing
graphics settings.
L219[09:53:15] <darsie> Is there an FPS
counter somewhere? Or just as steam overlay?
L220[09:53:28] <Althego> there is
something in the cheat menu
L221[09:53:35] <darsie> Didn't find
it.
L222[09:54:25] <Althego> alt-f12 and
console, performance
L223[09:56:27] <darsie> alt-f12 does
nothing, but I get there from the pause menue and 'Click for
Version info...', but nothing in console/performance.
L224[09:56:53] <Althego> it does nothing
in case you are on mac or linux, then use the corresponding
key
L225[09:57:00] <Althego> i think right
shift and f12
L226[09:57:28] <Althego> or whatever it is
you use instead of alt
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L229[10:00:20] <darsie> ahh, no fps during
pause it seems :).
L230[10:07:11] <darsie> Hmm, that doesn't
display real fps.
L231[10:07:22] <darsie> I have like 2 fps,
but the graph says 25
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L234[10:11:39] <Althego> well i had 60 and
it said 60
L235[10:11:49] <Althego> or rather it was
varying around it
L236[10:11:57] <Althego> the game wants
120 by default but that is pointless
L237[10:12:04] <Althego> unless you have a
monitor to handle it
L238[10:12:10] <Althego> so i limited to
60
L239[10:12:52] <Althego> +it
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L250[10:58:39] <darsie> impact craters
would be nice.
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L266[11:34:29] <Althego> the replies
L267[11:44:05] <Truga> i'm glad everyone's
finally dunking on musk's dumb ideas
L268[11:45:43] <Althego> he has a few. one
of them being the hyperloop
L269[11:46:11] <Althego> tesla is still
yet to succeed financially. although it seems to be making a change
in the world towards electric cars
L270[11:46:46] <darsie> I see a Tesla
occasionally in Vienna.
L271[11:47:06] <Althego> spacex seems to
be doing ok. but the constant changes in the next direction to take
is concerning
L272[11:47:14] <Althego> ok, nobody knows
how to go to mars. yet
L273[11:47:19] <Althego> but still
L274[11:47:55] <Althego> finally i got the
maxed out mission control
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L277[11:49:05] <Althego> already day 7.
cant imagine i can get the 3.3 million for the science building in
3 days
L278[11:49:48] <darsie> Stainless is
heavier and uses more fuel, but if it lasts longer than aluminium
it may be cheaper.
L279[11:50:03] <darsie> Or carbon fiber
composite?
L280[11:50:04] <Althego> actually it may
be lighter
L281[11:50:12] <Althego> requires less
thermal protectio
L282[11:50:18] <Althego> or rather maybe
nothing
L283[11:50:29] <Rokker> the steel is
lighter for strength
L284[11:50:38] <Rokker> elon already
covered it
L285[11:50:59] <darsie> Why do airplanes
use aluminium, then?
L286[11:51:08] <Althego> because they dont
need to do reentry :)
L287[11:51:13] <Rokker> because they dont
reenter the atmosphere
L288[11:51:18] <darsie> But steel is
lighter.
L289[11:51:23] <Truga> steel needs to be
really thin to be the same strength and weight as aluminium
L290[11:51:32] <Rokker> let me explain how
metal works
L291[11:51:40] <Althego> aluminium has a
lot of nasty properties
L292[11:51:41] <Rokker> there is this
thing called temperature
L293[11:51:42] <Truga> which means less
margin of error
L294[11:51:45] <Truga> which means
extremely bad things
L295[11:51:47] <Althego> from sturctural
standpoint
L296[11:51:48] <Truga> especially in
aerospace
L297[11:51:50] <Rokker> when a temperature
changes
L298[11:51:57] <Rokker> so does the metals
strenght
L299[11:52:23] <Rokker> when it's really
hot and really cold, steel has much better properties than aluminum
and cf
L300[11:52:26] <darsie> Ok, so at elevated
temp steel is lighter than aluminium.
L301[11:52:42] <UmbralRaptop> yes,
that
L302[11:52:42] <Rokker> at elevated temp,
aluminum melts
L303[11:53:06] <Althego> steel gets soft
(jet fuel vant melt steel beams, but can get them soft :))
L304[11:53:26] <Truga> yeah steel isn't
going to survive your average reentry
L305[11:53:34] <Rokker> aluminum would
fail if not melt on reentry. steel can get a lot hotter before it
would fail and overall you dont need it to get too large
L306[11:53:56] <Rokker> Truga: I'll refer
you to Scott's video
L307[11:54:07] <Truga> russians use steel
on the soyuz, but they still also use a heatshield
L308[11:54:08] <Althego> as scott
speculated probably they are going to pump the heat in the fuel
tanks
L309[11:54:14] <Althego> which is normal,
unless they are almsot empty
L310[11:54:23] <Althego> which would be
the case
L311[11:54:36] <Althego> so i am sceptical
aabout that
L312[11:54:43] <Rokker> also it depends on
how it reenters
L313[11:54:52] <Rokker> that was only one
speculation
L314[11:55:16] <Althego> airplanes already
do this, move excess heat into the fuel
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L316[11:55:28] <Rokker> anyways
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L318[11:55:47] <Rokker> at the end of the
day, I trust SpaceX to know what they are doing. more than some KSP
armchair engineers
L319[11:56:01] <Truga> i do too
L320[11:56:04] <Truga> not elon,
though
L321[11:56:12] <Rokker> so it's pointless
to look for these perceived flaws
L322[11:56:22] <Rokker> do you really
think this is just elon?
L323[11:56:29] <Rokker> like dont be
ignorant
L324[11:57:13] <Rokker> also, elon is an
engineer
L325[11:58:52] <Rokker> you might as well
go back in time and complain about Howard Hughes choices when
designing his planes too
L326[11:59:01] <Althego> these ideas
obviously come from a team
L327[11:59:06] <Althego> elon just voices
them
L328[11:59:18] <iamfishhead> He's not
dumb. A little crazy and outlandish maybe, but not dumb.
L329[11:59:59] <Rokker> ^
L330[12:00:00] <Althego> but as i said,
nobody tried to do things like this before
L331[12:00:13] <Althego> so it is
understandably the ideas seem strange
L332[12:00:23] <Rokker> honestly Howard
Hughes is about as apt a comparison as there is
L333[12:00:41] <iamfishhead> Yeah
L334[12:01:52] <Truga> counterpoint: he's
a dumb rich business type with mostly stupid ideas
L335[12:02:06] <Truga> he's had a good one
or two in the past and now people think he's some kind of tech
messiah
L336[12:02:11] <Althego> only soem of
those need to work :)
L337[12:02:13] <iamfishhead> My friend
used to work for Tesla, and said he isn't great as a manager, from
what he could tell. However, he is still able to hire really good
people, and that's one of the reasons his companies do so
well.
L338[12:02:19] <Rokker> counterpoint,
clearly you are wrong
L339[12:02:36] <Rokker> hes terrible at
business, hes great at ideas
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L341[12:02:51] <Truga> if he did, why is
he terrible at business
L342[12:03:00] <iamfishhead> I mean, from
working for tech companies and on hiring a lot, it's being able to
have a ton of smart people that are good at what they do
L343[12:03:35] <Rokker> really? you think
elon is good at business?
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L345[12:04:05] <Truga> no.
L346[12:04:37] <Rokker> his money has all
come from his ideas, not his business acumen
L347[12:04:39] <Mat2ch> he's good at
business. Or at listening to people who are good at business.
L348[12:04:56] <Rokker> again, howard
hughes
L349[12:05:06] <Rokker> good at
reinvesting his wealth in good ideas
L350[12:05:23] <Rokker> not good at
running a business, especially day to day
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L352[12:06:00] <iamfishhead> Yeah, again,
friend who worked at Tesla said a similar thing about his ability
to run a business
L353[12:06:03] <Mat2ch> Musk doesn't do
the day to day stuff... but he's there, when people need him
L354[12:06:07] <Truga> his money all come
from his dad's apartheid gem mines lol
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L356[12:06:23] <Rokker> lolno
L357[12:06:34] <Rokker> his money comes
from selling PayPal you lunatic
L358[12:06:49] <Truga> and he bought
paypal with his dad's money, yes
L359[12:07:25] <Mat2ch> even if, he's
doing something with his money, unlike most other billionairs who
just sit on it and buy yachts
L360[12:07:50] <Mat2ch> Making electric
cars, even though all told him it's not a good business idea,
that's just bold
L361[12:07:53] <Rokker> listen, I dont
know what inferiority complex you have driving your jealous hatred
of musk, but its horribly childish and misplaced.
L362[12:07:55] <Truga> yeah, he's
accelerating global warming by using his private jet twice a day
and shooting cars into orbit
L363[12:07:56] <Mat2ch> or reusable
rockets
L364[12:07:59] <Truga> he's doing a great
job
L365[12:08:12] <Mat2ch> ehm
L366[12:08:19] <Mat2ch> you know that he
had to test Falcon Heavy?
L367[12:08:24] <Mat2ch> You get that, do
you?
L368[12:08:34] <Truga> yeah, so why didn't
he do something useful while at it
L369[12:08:59] <Mat2ch> how likely was the
success of the mission?
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L371[12:09:06] <Truga> does it
matter?
L372[12:09:08] <Mat2ch> yes
L373[12:09:10] <Althego> it does
L374[12:09:17] <Mat2ch> because everything
that's useful is very very expensive!
L375[12:09:23] <Althego> because say you
put a 200 million dollar probe on it and it explodes
L376[12:09:28] <Althego> well, you just
wasted a lot of money
L377[12:09:44] <Rokker> Truga: your hate
boner is showing and it's stupid
L378[12:09:52] <Truga> lmao
L379[12:09:52] <Mat2ch> and it's usual to
test new launchers just with concrete blocks as payload
L380[12:09:58] <Truga> yes, I know
that
L381[12:10:07] <Truga> and it's
stupid
L382[12:10:15] <Rokker> you are horribly
irrational in your dislike
L383[12:10:20] <Rokker> of a great
man
L384[12:10:26] <Mat2ch> so why not do
something that's fun? Make people wanna watch it and inspire
them?
L385[12:10:26] <Althego> they should have
put flat earthers there as mass mass simulator :)
L386[12:10:37] <Mat2ch> Althego: :D
L387[12:10:37] <Althego> that is useful in
all outcome cases
L388[12:10:37] <Truga> Althego yeah,
exactly
L389[12:10:39] <Truga> that'd be
useful
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L391[12:11:41] <Rokker> you would be
Senator Owen Brewster or Juan Trippe in the Howard Hughes
story.
L392[12:12:05] <Truga> yeah, howard hughes
also had a couple good ideas and a buch of really stupid ones, I
agree.
L393[12:12:25] <Rokker> his ideas were
great
L394[12:12:30] <Rokker> pretty much all of
them
L395[12:12:32] <Rokker> like elon
L396[12:12:33] <darsie> The space Tesla
was a great PR stunt, so it was useful.
L397[12:12:47] <Althego> flat earthers are
still butthurt because of it
L398[12:12:47] <Ezko> Rokker: have you
ever heard or seen anyone say "don't feed the
troll"?
L399[12:12:55] <Althego> (they didnt get
the ride :))
L400[12:13:29] <Rokker> Ezko: should I go
see slayer?
L401[12:13:35] <Ezko> why not
L402[12:13:41] <Truga> i'm not at all
surprised posters in the ksp chat buy into elon's cult, but lol @
troll.
L403[12:13:51] <Ezko> have you seen them
before?
L404[12:14:07] <Rokker> no
L405[12:14:17] <Ezko> then yes
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L407[12:14:44] <Ezko> Truga: :)
L408[12:14:46] <Rokker> Truga: wow people
playing a space game like one of the greatest innovators of space
travel in the last 40 years
L409[12:14:57] <Rokker> you must be
trolling
L410[12:15:37] <Althego> it is an
undeniable fact that spacex and elon is goping into the history
books
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L412[12:15:47] <Ezko> still feeding
L413[12:15:47] <Truga> Althego yeah, I
agree
L414[12:15:56] <Ezko> oh look out
L415[12:16:02] <Ezko> some great trolling
about to be said
L416[12:16:07] <Ezko> go ahead truga
L417[12:16:13] <Truga> Ezko the only one
trolling here is you
L418[12:16:17] <Truga> and Rokker on
occasion
L419[12:16:26] <Althego> hehe yes rokker
is the resident troll, we know that
L420[12:16:42] <Rokker> nah I'm beginning
to agree with Ezko, you are trolling in the most subtle boring
way
L421[12:17:15] <Althego> i found some
video that said that the raptor engien was redesigned
L422[12:17:18] <Althego> why?
L423[12:18:11] <Rokker> moar power
L424[12:18:23] <Rokker> THREE HUNDRED
BAR
L425[12:18:49] <UmbralRaptop>
FFORSC?
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L428[12:22:42] <Rokker> Althego: elon
confirmed liquid cooling yesterday
L429[12:23:55] <Althego> for the whatever
you call it starship,
L430[12:23:56] <Althego> ?
L431[12:24:39] <Truga> i think it's
literally named starship :D
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L433[12:25:33] *
Mat2ch has spekulatius
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L435[12:25:45] <Rokker> Althego: yeah for
the skin
L436[12:26:03] <Mat2ch> anyone want some?
:P
L437[12:26:07] <Althego> it was bfs
before
L438[12:26:18] <Althego> what, i dont want
skin :)
L439[12:26:49] <Mat2ch> Althego:
cookies!
L440[12:26:54] <Mat2ch> I'm talking about
cookies!
L442[12:27:34] <Rokker> "Yes, full
flow, gas-gas, staged combustion. Will take us time to work up to
300 bar. That is a mad level."
L443[12:27:41] <Rokker>
UmbralRaptop:
L444[12:28:01] <Rokker> Fluburtur:
nice
L445[12:28:17] <Fluburtur> this glider is
to big for my room
L446[12:28:36] <Althego> this room aint
big enough... :)
L447[12:28:45] <Althego> for the both of
youú
L448[12:28:49] <Mat2ch>
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh
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L450[12:29:46] <UmbralRaptop> Sort of like
a cross between an RD-170 and an SSME >_>
L451[12:30:05] <Althego> ssme has way
higher isp
L452[12:30:12] <darsie> I can no longer
move parts arbitrarily far. Where can I set this? Editor
extensions? 1.5?
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L454[12:30:18] <Althego> but they can
still eb the first company to actually use a methane engine
L455[12:30:41] <Rokker> Vulcan might go
before BFR
L456[12:30:46] <Althego> you can, just
hold shift while the drag gizmo is on
L457[12:31:00] <Rokker> or Superheavy
rather
L458[12:31:14] <darsie> yeah, thx.
L459[12:32:34] <Althego> yes blue origin
is catching up. but i think they will not have a rocket ready for a
while. so only vulcan can get there first which is going to use
their engine
L460[12:32:50] <Althego> space exploration
intensifies!
L461[12:34:18] <UmbralRaptop> No, but the
prerequisites for greatly expanded exploration are.
L462[12:35:14] <Althego> i have a
billy-bobdock kerman in orbit around the mun and waiting to be
rescued
L463[12:36:15] <UmbralRaptop> Rescued, or
forcibly recruited?
L464[12:36:24] <Althego> hehe
L465[12:36:35] <Althego> i do these
missions because they give me free kerbals and money :)
L466[12:37:00] <Althego> although 12 is ok
for the exploration of the kerbin soi
L467[12:37:08] <Rokker> UmbralRaptop:
THULE
L468[12:37:42] <Althego> ultima
thule
L469[12:37:44] <Althego> in a few
days
L470[12:38:06] <Althego> i wonder how long
we are going to receive the information at that bitrate? a
year?
L471[12:38:12] <Rokker> the most ultimate
of thules
L472[12:38:12] <UmbralRaptop> Dawn of the
final week. 7 days remain.
L473[12:38:30] <Rokker> Althego: I mean we
already have relatively recent pictures
L474[12:38:31] <UmbralRaptop> Althego:
something like that
L475[12:39:04] <UmbralRaptop> (But like
Pluto, there will be priorities)
L476[12:39:15] <Rokker> 841 bits per
second
L477[12:39:18] <Rokker> not bad
L478[12:39:19] <Althego> lol
L479[12:39:25] <Althego> at least the
target is smaller
L480[12:40:40] <Althego> so probably fewer
pictures are needed
L481[12:41:36] <Althego> can new horizons
become a voyager style interstellar probe?
L482[12:41:48] <Rokker> possibly
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L484[12:42:05] <Althego> but it is slower,
so the power might run out sooner
L485[12:42:14] <Althego> before it reaches
that far
L486[12:42:14] <Rokker> certain
instruments might shut down as the power lessens
L487[12:42:49] <Althego> camera is not
needed anyway
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L489[12:44:18] <darsie> I could tell them
how to build a boost converter and charge capacitors or
batteries.
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L491[12:44:36] <darsie> So stuff can work
intermittently.
L492[12:45:03] <UmbralRaptop> Heating
instruments can be an issue.
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L494[12:48:07] <Rokker> UmbralRaptop: too
bad they cant heat it radioactively
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L496[12:48:29] <Rokker> with the
plutonium
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L499[12:53:14] <UmbralRaptop> Something
about design tradeoffs and limited Pu-238?
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L503[12:54:58] <kmath> YouTube - Song of
Healing 10 Hours
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L520[13:25:12] <kmath> YouTube - The HU -
Yuve Yuve Yu
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L524[13:38:06] <kmath> <AlanStern>
BREAKING…Signal has just been received at mission control, New
Horizons has successfully started its flyby program…
https://t.co/FHtaHT9NL1
L525[13:42:57] <Althego> but there are
several days until the flyby
L526[13:45:13] <APlayer> I think it does
not work like KSP where you warp to t -10 minutes to periapsis, but
you power up the systems a few days before :P
L527[13:45:23] <Althego> hehe
L528[13:45:31] <Althego> but actually
there is not much to see
L529[13:45:47] <APlayer> What if, say the
camera lost calibration
L530[13:45:57] <APlayer> You need time to
fix things if they break
L531[14:03:16] <UmbralRaptop> Also aiming
calibration? IIRC the unknowns in Ultima Thule's ephemeris are
large enough that some pics will miss it.
L532[14:09:08] <APlayer> Are they
sufficiently small to correct for the flyby?
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L534[14:42:10] <Althego> heh mortal
engines failed
L535[14:42:18] <Althego> loked to be
promosing in the trailer
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L537[14:50:46] <UmbralRaptop> Always use
immortal engines?
L538[14:58:23] <APlayer> Good one :D
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L552[15:22:05] <Althego> but can you go up
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L558[15:24:52] *
APlayer glares at the internet connection
L559[15:25:46] <Althego> i could visualize
somebody glaring at the internet connector. but the connection, no
that is not possible
L560[15:26:35] *
APlayer glares at the visual indicators for the internet
connection
L561[15:26:44] <JVFoxy> ... connections
and ports... -imagines the internet pouring a bottle of
wine...
L562[15:27:02] <Althego> as all evil
schemers do
L563[15:27:15] <Althego> drinking wine and
laughing
L564[15:27:38] <APlayer> *evil
laughter*
L565[15:27:59] <JVFoxy> got 9 bottles of
wine... at least one from 2007..
L566[15:28:17] <JVFoxy> one called Dirty
Laundry, another called Fat Bastard..
L567[15:28:32] <APlayer> Ahem
L568[15:28:55] <JVFoxy> ... think Kerbals
party till they get drunk?
L569[15:29:08] <APlayer> Nah, they launch
firework rockets
L570[15:29:23] <JVFoxy> who knows.. maybe
they power those rockets with vodka
L571[15:29:38] <APlayer> Alcohol rockets
are a thing
L572[15:29:59] <JVFoxy> I've hard..
L573[15:30:14] <JVFoxy> heard..
L574[15:30:15] <darsie> Copenhagen
Suborbitals builds some.
L575[15:30:26] <Althego> the evaporation
level of the fuel was higher than expected :)
L576[15:30:44] <darsie> Should have added
some denatonium :).
L577[15:30:47] <JVFoxy> that account for
why the last launch didn't go as high as expected?
L578[15:30:55] <Althego> no
L579[15:31:00] <Althego> they explained
why
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L581[15:31:10] <JVFoxy> k.. missed that
then.
L582[15:31:16] <Althego> i forgot, the
mixture was wrong and the thrust wa lower
L583[15:31:17] <JVFoxy> I remember one
launch, hairdrier failed
L584[15:31:17] <APlayer> Imagine the tax
on a rocket full of un-denatured alcohol
L585[15:31:40] <darsie> normal VAT.
L586[15:32:08] <darsie> I got 100 ml 96%
(70%?) ethanol from the pharmacy for medical purposes.
L587[15:32:17] <darsie> Dissolving vitamin
B12 tablets.
L588[15:32:24] <JVFoxy> they still charge
taxes based on combustion volume on rocket engines?
L589[15:32:35] <darsie> Without drinking
tax.
L590[15:33:32] <JVFoxy> I know regular
engines, vehicles they charge... though what I've been reading
lately, ICEs may be coming to an end fairly soon
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L613[16:29:14] <bathtub_shark> DuoDex:
what! I don't want KSP cards, I want holiday cards!
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L621[16:48:16] <rightbrace> Has anyone
noticed that since the most recent update, fuel transfer is buggy
and mod+right click doesn’t consistently pull up the in/out
menu?
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L631[17:31:04] <Rokker> do you all know
what day it is
L632[17:31:30] <Rokker> like do you know
what is celebrated on December 25th?
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L634[17:32:06] <Rokker> UmbralRaptop: do
you know
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L636[17:35:16] <Rokker> guess not
L637[17:35:16] <UmbralRaptop> Rokker:
Isaac Newton!
L638[17:35:24] <Rokker> UmbralRaptop:
better
L639[17:35:50] <Rokker> ?? Happy USSR
Collapse Day ??
L640[17:36:55] <Rokker> December 25th 1991
the Hammer and Sickle were lowered one last time over the
Kremlin
L641[17:37:35] <Rokker> truly a great
holiday
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L655[19:52:37] <Eddi|zuHause> Rokker: but
you're probably a few hours late for that, as moscow time is
already the 26th
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