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L12[00:29:48] <JVFoxy> Wow... Curious Marc
on youtube posted video, meeting up with his team and has started
work on restoring a develope model of the Apollo AGC. They want to
get it ready in time for the 50th anniversary.
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L14[00:40:49] ***
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L15[00:41:02] <Eddi|zuHause> as usual, i
didn't understand half of those words
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L17[00:52:52] <JVFoxy> ...
L18[00:53:18] <Althego> it was quite
simple
L19[00:53:35] <Althego> some youtuber wants
to have a working apollog guidance computer
L20[00:53:53] <Althego> the code is open
source actually. but it is not needed, becasue the code is
permanent in rope memory
L21[00:54:25] <Eddi|zuHause> that's the
thing that they knitted by hand?
L22[00:54:31] <Althego> yes
L23[00:54:44] <JVFoxy> Some old NASA guy
managed to rescue a bunch of Apollo AGC from a warehouse a long
time ago. Brought it to a team of restorers, hoping to see if they
can get it working again for 50th anniversary of the moon
landing.
L24[00:54:49] <Althego> so if oyu have the
hardware, you have the code too
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L26[00:55:19] <JVFoxy> hardware he saved
was part of the AGC development kit... they didn't use rope on the
development one. It was rope-simulator blocks.
L27[00:55:33] <Althego> hehe
L28[00:55:37] <Althego> that makes it
harder
L29[00:56:37] <JVFoxy> the blocks didn't
have any documents at all.. fortunately, because the development
set wasn't what they called 'potted', ie: sealed in large amounts
of black plastic, they can actually have access to the individual
logic components for testing.
L30[00:56:44] <Eddi|zuHause> JVFoxy: i'm
assuming that's something like an FPGA where you can test chip
designs without having to do a physical layout
L31[00:57:05] <Althego> they cant be all
that complicated
L32[00:57:09] <Althego> discrete
components
L33[00:57:20] <JVFoxy> 5200 NOR gates
L34[00:57:26] <Althego> so probably big and
relatively easy to reverse engineer
L35[00:57:28] <JVFoxy> Block II systems had
5700 NOR gates
L36[00:57:59] <Althego> the
processor?
L39[01:02:17] <Eddi|zuHause> JVFoxy: right
click on the video and pick "copy video url"
L40[01:03:40] <JVFoxy> been corrected... I
was grabbing from my fav list
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L66[05:49:37] <Eddi|zuHause> hm, i think i
found a bug in stellaris... i have some sort of "ghost
battle" where my ships/station won't fire back at that really
damaged ship of the other guy
L67[05:54:03] <Rolf> probably thinks it was
destroyed
L68[05:55:00] <Althego> or it was destroyed
but the image of it is not erased
L69[05:56:46] <Eddi|zuHause> oh, but it
does fire at me
L70[05:57:25] <Eddi|zuHause> i guess i
should feel lucky it doesn't penetrate the shields
L71[05:58:02] <Althego> do you feel lucky,
punk? :)
L72[05:58:57] <Eddi|zuHause> does anyone
ever use the "i'm feeling lucky" button on google?
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L76[06:16:39] <Rolf> eddi sure when im
bored
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L78[06:27:09] <Deddly> 'eyup
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L86[07:07:30] <Eclipser> never used
it
L87[07:11:21] <Rolf> Eddi|zuHause: odd fact
about google homepage, it costs google millions of bucks each year
in oppounity cost of not adversing on that page.
L88[07:13:46] <Eclipser> I never go to that
page though...
L89[07:14:11] <Eclipser> just type your
query in browser's address bar
L90[07:14:17] <Rolf> yeah me too
L91[07:14:29] <Rolf> unless its some event
like halloween game. that was fun
L92[07:19:05] <sandbox> I started using
duckduckgo after sal_vager suggested it
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L96[07:54:30] <Eddi|zuHause> i find
duckduckgo produces horrible search results
L97[08:02:24] <Althego> only good on
halloween?
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L99[08:12:45] <Eddi|zuHause> btw, the ghost
battle turned into a real battle after reloading
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L103[08:26:30] <mabus> yes, duckduckgo
does provide bad results compared to google
L104[08:26:46] <mabus> the personalized
touch is actually nice when you ignore your instinct its
creepy
L105[08:26:55] <mabus> when i search the
DMV, i want to see the DMV for the state i am in pop up
L106[08:27:01] <mabus> with the last state
i lived in as #2
L107[08:27:05] <mabus> not california then
new york etc
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L110[08:42:57] <Deddly> And if *I* search
for DMV, I want a definition.
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L113[08:53:18] <goblin> hello :-) I'm
trying to learn about aerodynamics, in particular to predict
"which side is up". I've noticed placing the aero center
below the center of mass makes the rocket "stabilize
itself" when it goes up
L114[08:53:54] <goblin> however, when the
rocket starts going down (i.e. out of fuel), it'll flip itself so
that the aero center is above the center of mass. It makes sense.
So far so good.
L116[08:55:00] <goblin> and the aero
center is clearly below the center of mass, so when going down,
this contraption should flip itself with the ablative shield in the
wrong direction, right?
L117[08:55:19] <goblin> well, for some
reason, it went down the right side :-S What makes probes go
ablative-shield first?
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L120[08:57:08] <UmbralRaptop> I think
that's only taking into account lift, but not drag?
L121[08:58:59] <goblin> quite likely. Is
there a way (mod, most likely) to see all aero forces during design
(or flight, perhaps)?
L122[08:59:28] <Eddi|zuHause> there is a
force overlay during flight, but i have no clue how it works
L123[09:00:59] *
UmbralRaptop wants to type that FAR does, but that also changes the
aerodynamics
L124[09:01:35] <VanD> go ahead and
substitute "improves" in there :P
L125[09:01:57] <goblin> will it make my
probe flip itself? ;-)
L126[09:02:34] <VanD> don't know, FAR
completely replaces the aero model
L127[09:02:41] <VanD> oyu need to be more
careful designing, for sure
L128[09:02:50] <VanD> but even now it
seems more intuitive
L129[09:04:14] <goblin> speaking of mods,
I'm back at 1.5 after a loong break from 1.0 times. I've noticed
KER, and now FAR too, are made for 1.3. KER put up a message at
start saying that my version is unsupported. Is this normal?
L130[09:04:40] <VanD> FAR got patched at
some point for 1.4, so there might be a 1.5 around
L131[09:05:39] <VanD> I'm still running
1.3 anyway, so :p
L132[09:05:46] <VanD> generally
L133[09:12:15] <Mat2ch> goblin: most of
the time there are no changes to the parts FAR and KER work
on
L134[09:12:40] <goblin> Mat2ch, cool,
thanks
L135[09:12:52] <Mat2ch> also KER should be
updated to work with 1.5.x
L136[09:13:13] <Mat2ch> FAR also
L137[09:13:21] <Mat2ch> you should use
ckan to install them :)
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L141[09:16:24] <goblin> Mat2ch, hmm, my
Windows (gaming) machine doesn't have access to the internet, so
I'm not sure that'll work...
L142[09:17:11] <Eddi|zuHause> you can use
ckan to download to the internet-machine, and copy the content over
to the gaming machine
L143[09:17:48] <Eddi|zuHause> ckan runs
via mono on non-windows machines
L144[09:19:47] <goblin> ok, I'll get the
stuff from the CKAN-meta repo's URLs
L145[09:20:15] <goblin> indeed, there's a
newer KER there than I found on the forum, and FAR is now called
"FerramAerospaceReasearch
Continued"
L146[09:26:04] <Eddi|zuHause> not sure i
like that naming scheme
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L151[09:38:30] <Mat2ch> well, I wouldn't
hook up a Windows to the internet either. :D
L152[09:41:10] <Althego> you are alone
with that
L153[09:41:27] <Mat2ch> I'm not so sure
about this.
L154[09:44:36] <Eddi|zuHause> i've met
people who went like "this update thing is driving me crazy,
i'd rather disconnect from the internet"
L155[09:44:52] <Althego> hehe
L156[09:45:08] <Althego> btw i think i
swill havent received the october update
L157[09:45:15] <Althego> the onw ith the
user data deletion :)
L158[09:45:51] <Eddi|zuHause> i presume
they fixed that in the mean time?
L159[09:46:05] <Althego> thy did
L160[09:46:16] <Althego> ot wait, i know
that they found the cause
L161[09:46:50] <Eddi|zuHause> that is
often the biggest part of the fix :p
L162[09:48:03] <Althego> eh i think i
missed a rocket launch
L163[09:48:08] <Althego> was an
indian
L164[09:49:17] <Eddi|zuHause> just be
lucky you're not trying to follow every plane takeoff
L165[09:49:23] <Althego> hehe
L166[09:49:47] <Althego> this is one fat
rocket
L167[09:49:56] <Althego> i think i saw the
previous launch of this
L168[09:50:26] <VanD> I love the indian
rocket
L169[09:50:27] <Eddi|zuHause> so new
zealand is "tiny rockets", india is "giant but
cheap"?
L170[09:50:31] <VanD> launch TWR is just
nuts
L171[09:53:10] <VanD> hmm
L173[09:53:23] <VanD> this was a smaller
rocket
L174[09:53:44] <Althego> but i didnt start
to watch it after lunch and started working, so i forgot
L175[09:53:50] <Mat2ch> Althego: is the
aspect ration off?
L176[09:53:56] <VanD> didn't make it any
slower off the pad tho, lol
L177[09:53:58] <Althego> a bit
L178[09:54:01] <Althego> still a fat
rocket
L180[09:54:13] <Mat2ch> looks a bit like
the Ariane 5
L181[09:54:32] <Mat2ch> and like rockets I
build in KSP in early career stages ;)
L182[09:54:41] <VanD> by the time a5 would
clear a tower that thing would be a km up or so, heh
L183[09:54:43] <raptop> Eddi|zuHause: eh,
I'd go with ISRO rockets being medium sized
L184[09:54:57] <Althego> solid, hypergolic
and lox h2, it has everything
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L186[09:55:18] <Mat2ch> uhm, those small
rockets there on the side, are those additional boosters?
L187[09:55:28] <VanD> they appear to be
the first stage
L188[09:55:37] <VanD> don't think it
actually lit the centre engine at launch
L189[09:56:10] <raptop> to be fair, the
Titan 34D and Titan IV could also have all 3.
L190[09:56:11] <Althego> yes i wanted ti
ask what are those
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L192[09:56:54] <Mat2ch> those are no
boosters, those are some kind of tank
L193[09:57:09] <Mat2ch> maybe to
extinguish the rocket?
L194[09:57:16] <Althego> a solid?
L195[09:57:22] <Althego> quite hard to
do
L196[09:57:41] <VanD> airbrake?
L197[09:57:41] <raptop> Fluid injection
for TVC?
L198[09:57:49] *
raptop points again at the Titans
L199[09:57:54] <Althego> can be
L200[09:59:10] <VanD> the nozzles are
vectorable according to wiki
L201[09:59:22] <VanD> vectoring
L202[09:59:24] <VanD> word
L203[09:59:40] <Althego> better be
vectoring nozzles than scalaring :)
L204[10:00:07] <Mat2ch> or it's to start
the engine
L205[10:00:09] <VanD> throttleable SRBs,
that'd be fun
L206[10:01:09] <Eddi|zuHause> if the fuel
is solid, how does it go into the booster?
L207[10:01:18] <Althego> when it is
liquid
L208[10:01:28] <Mat2ch> in a liquid stage.
It's dried inside of it
L209[10:01:35] <Mat2ch> Imagine
paint
L210[10:02:50] <raptop> Casting
L211[10:02:53] <Eddi|zuHause> paint
doesn't just "dry", it polymerizes in a chemical
reaction
L212[10:03:05] <Althego> and it is usually
in a layer, not in bulk
L213[10:03:15] <Althego> casting, or
concrete curing would be closer
L214[10:03:26] <Mat2ch> does watercolor
count as paint? ;)
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L225[11:01:20] <Althego> eh another nvidia
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L227[11:02:59] <Fluburtur> I think my
familly wanted to gift me a car for christmas
L228[11:03:03] <Fluburtur> I hope they
wont do that
L229[11:03:09] <Althego> hehe
L230[11:03:44] <Althego> i'd do anything
would love, but i won't do that :)
L231[11:03:50] <Althego> (quote)
L232[11:05:07] <Mat2ch> Fluburtur: ask for
a flying car!
L233[11:05:40] <Fluburtur> actually I
would be ok with an electric car
L234[11:05:50] <Fluburtur> because I would
use it so little I would never need to charge it
L235[11:05:56] <Althego> hehe
L236[11:06:02] <Althego> same for
conventionals
L237[11:08:06] <Mat2ch> well, just never
charge it above 90 % and never drive it down to under 15 % and it
will outlast you...
L238[11:08:41] <Mat2ch> conventionals will
have their cylinders stuck. Electric motor just thinks
"meh" :D
L239[11:08:59] <Althego> then ask for the
money instead of the car :)
L240[11:09:05] <Fluburtur> also I can
buidl electric vehicles so wont be too weird for me
L241[11:09:12] <Fluburtur> will probalby
hack rc controls in it
L242[11:10:16] <Althego> just dont do it
mythbusters style
L243[11:10:17] <Mat2ch> you will never get
an inspection for that :D
L245[11:11:18] <Mat2ch> :D
L246[11:11:32] <Althego> hehe i love
this
L247[11:11:43] <Mat2ch> the remix or the
original? :P
L248[11:11:46] <Althego> the whole film
rocks
L249[11:11:52] <Althego> the
original
L250[11:11:56] <Mat2ch> wait until the
beat drops!
L251[11:11:57] <Althego> i didnt notice it
was a remc
L252[11:12:01] <Althego> remix
L253[11:12:01] <Mat2ch> eh, bass
L254[11:12:20] <Althego> lol
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L256[11:13:02] <Mat2ch> they look like
they're abusing substances... but it's just music ;)
L257[11:13:28] <Mat2ch> I miss their
movies
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L267[11:50:15] <Althego> lol the cat and
the banana
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L270[12:08:38] <Eddi|zuHause>
piCATchu?
L271[12:10:29] <Eddi|zuHause>
<Mat2ch> well, just never charge it above 90 % and never
drive it down to under 15 % and it will outlast you... <-- you
mean "... until they won't release software updates and you
have to throw it out for a new one"
L272[12:10:39] <Althego> hehe
L273[12:11:06] <Eddi|zuHause> smartcars
are the next smartphones
L274[12:11:14] <Eddi|zuHause> (never mind
the existing smart car)
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L276[12:22:03] <Deddly> Sounds like an
interesting topic of conversation :P
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L279[12:24:22] <Althego> conversation dies
instantly
L280[12:24:28] <Althego> (konversation
terminated)
L281[12:27:42] <UmbralRaptop> Anyway, if
you use things like IRC and Thunderbird, decade old laptops running
Linux work fine.
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L286[12:42:58] <Eddi|zuHause> uhm,
Konversation still running here.
L287[12:43:15] <Eddi|zuHause> the
conversation, however, is a bit slow :p
L288[12:43:28] <Althego> hehe
L289[12:43:36] <Althego> invaded by the
slow mo guys
L290[12:44:35] <Eddi|zuHause> somewhen in
the late 90s or early 2000s there was a swiss juggling duo, which
specialized in "slow juggling"
L291[12:44:49] <Althego> lived on the
moon?
L293[12:45:47] <Althego> lol not from
europe
L294[12:46:03] <Althego> and not
understanding
L295[12:47:08] <Eddi|zuHause> (there is a
slight prejudice over swiss people that they are a bit slow)
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L299[12:54:43] <Althego> actually i liked
the announcer more :)
L300[12:54:58] <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, he is
pretty good
L301[12:55:19] <Althego> this is
better
L302[12:55:59] <Althego> it is hard that
they do it in sync, and the voices are funny
L303[12:56:43] <Althego> somewhat
surprises me that i can still understand german
L304[12:59:04] <Eddi|zuHause> it doesn't
say how old that clip is, but several people in there are now long
dead
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L306[13:17:24] <Althego> let's see, now
should be the time that scott makes a video about osiris rex
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L314[14:34:56] <Mat2ch> Eddi|zuHause:
well, your car will still drive, even with old software. You should
disable all the wirless stuff though...
L315[14:53:00] <Eddi|zuHause> i can
imagine a number of ways that might be made impossible
L316[14:54:10] <Eddi|zuHause> like writing
into laws that cars must interact with each other
L317[14:54:40] <Eddi|zuHause> or cars
rejecting to start if the battery hasn't been changed in 5
years
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L325[15:57:31] <Eddi|zuHause> oh i've
another one: your insurance company remotely shutting down your car
because it has missed mandatory service appointments
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L332[16:08:19] <Eddi|zuHause> not sure i
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L333[16:08:52] <darsie> The ooof ones or
UD in general?
L334[16:15:30] <Eddi|zuHause> these ooof
ones
L335[16:15:38] <darsie> k
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L381[22:52:32] <Guest93757> hey guys I
just got into orbit!!!!!!
L382[22:52:36] <Guest93757> yaay
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L384[22:53:21] <Guest93757> does anyone
want to lick my balls
L385[22:53:24] <Guest93757> ?
L386[22:54:51] <Guest93757> peepee?
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L388[22:55:26] <Guest93757> yoyoyo!!
L389[22:55:41] <Guest93757> you wanna lick
my balls please?:
L390[22:55:48] <Glass|phone> not really,
nah
L391[22:55:53] <Guest93757> or pee pee if
preferred
L392[22:56:06] <Guest93757> ok sorry
man
L393[22:56:18] <Glass|phone> where's the
moderators when you need them
L394[22:56:27] <Guest93757> hahaha
lol!
L395[22:56:50] <Guest93757> i got into
orbit for the first time today
L396[22:57:41] <Guest93757> aww darn
L397[22:57:58] <Guest93757> you know
what
L398[22:58:02] <Guest93757> i hate
you
L399[22:58:31] <Guest93757> im in love
with you
L400[22:59:48] <Guest93757> oh shit
L401[22:59:53] <Guest93757> come bCK
L402[22:59:54] <Glass|phone> so there's
people who think that disneyland is given a high degree of
independence in their licensing agreement with disney
L403[23:00:00] <Guest93757> what
L404[23:00:17] <Guest93757> whats ur
iq
L405[23:00:20] <Guest93757> plese
L406[23:01:00] <Guest93757> hey im sorry
if i offended you i just wanna know ur iq
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L409[23:05:10] <Glass|phone> honestly who
cares about arbitrary numbers like that
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L412[23:13:04] <Guest93757> ok man im
sorry
L413[23:13:55] <Guest93757> im really
fucking sorry
L414[23:14:06] <Guest93757> oops
L415[23:14:08] <Guest93757> oh shit
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L418[23:15:33] <Guest60339> im back
bitch
L419[23:15:47] <Guest60339> dont ban me
this time
L420[23:16:32] <TheKosmonaut>
Language
L421[23:17:19] <Guest60339> oh sorry
L422[23:17:49] <Guest60339> i got into
orbit today for the first time!
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L425[23:18:57] <Guest60339> bro guess
what
L426[23:19:02] <nshirelaptop> what
L427[23:19:05] <Guest60339> i got into
orbit today
L428[23:19:10] <Guest30147> wow thats so
fucking cool dude congrats
L429[23:19:19] <nshirelaptop>
language
L430[23:19:26] <Guest30147> oh sorry
L431[23:19:27] <TheKosmonaut>
*!*@cpe-75-83-86-64.socal.res.rr.com
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L434[23:20:37] <TheKosmonaut> neato
L435[23:20:40] <TheKosmonaut> So
L436[23:20:42] <TheKosmonaut> In other
news
L437[23:20:49] <TheKosmonaut> I got some
new Vans today
L438[23:20:55] <TheKosmonaut> They're from
the NASA collaboration
L440[23:21:32] <nshirelaptop> I don't know
how I feel about special shoes like that, you wouldn't want to get
them dirty so you might never wear them
L441[23:21:43] <nshirelaptop> especially
white shies
L442[23:26:07] <TheKosmonaut> I never care
about that. Haha. But I'm mostly in the city
L443[23:26:18] <TheKosmonaut> So all my
shoes die eventually
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L456[23:54:21] <Althego> hehe