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L7[04:07:36] <taniwha> so send something to
duna :P
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L11[04:38:59] <Rolf> there is secret
dunaians in your KSP, controlling missions.
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L16[05:04:32] *
darsie lost a tourist. Computer used up all EC while waiting for
the deorbit burn.
L18[05:04:51] <darsie> electric
charge
L19[05:05:45] <darsie> I had to register to
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L20[05:06:56] <darsie> Someone made fun of
freenode cause "all" channes are +r there. Now this one
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L22[05:15:52] <Rolf> not anymore
L23[05:16:05] <Rolf> some of channels im in
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L24[05:16:15] <Rolf> freenode implemented
server side antispam
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L35[07:51:25] <Eddi|zuHause> so, metro 2033
free on steam, do i even want that?
L36[07:52:35] <GlassYuri> Eddi|zuHause, it
adds one more game to your steam account and we all know we can't
help to define our self-worth by that
L37[07:59:59] <Eddi|zuHause> then i have a
reall low self-worth... :/
L38[08:01:54] <Mat2ch> I'm not a collector
either
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L41[08:22:07] <mabus> i dont care about
free games normally
L42[08:22:09] <mabus> but i downloaded this
one
L43[08:22:33] <mabus> i have only completed
the prologue, game feels a bit on rails but i havent tried it
enough ye
L44[08:51:44] <Althego> hehe, what a
comment
L45[08:51:45] <Althego> "Explaining
Gravity and Motion to Flat Earther" We should do a live
crossover stream. You explain gravity to a flat earther and I'll
explain algebra to a house brick. Let me just go and call my
bookie. My money is on the house brick.
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L47[09:26:32] <Mat2ch> mabus: it's quiet
linear, but intense
L48[09:37:05] <Black_Eagle> Eddi|zuHause,
oh. it worked before. i wonder what changed...
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L53[09:42:46] <Black_Eagle> Eddi|zuHause
Yeah putting a timer (5 seconds!!) on it resolved it. thanks.
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L55[09:52:48] <BadRocketsCo> o/
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L62[11:16:58] <Althego> why is there no
trailer for 1.5?
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L64[11:17:06] <Althego> ok it is a really
tiny upgrade, but still
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L76[14:51:05] <Eddi|zuHause> anyway, how is
1.5 not called "Dres for Success"
L77[14:52:18] <JVFoxy> do it for one
planet.. they'd have to do it for all of them
L78[14:53:33] <Eddi|zuHause> uuuh, what
glorious moment :)
L79[14:53:40] <Eddi|zuHause> i've been
topic'd
L80[14:53:49] *
UmbralRaptop was amused
L81[14:54:31] <Eddi|zuHause> JVFoxy: are
you afraid they run out of updates before they run out of
planets?
L82[14:56:24] <Althego> they just need to
add planets
L83[14:56:34] <Althego> at least one more
gas giant would be nice
L84[14:57:42] <UmbralRaptop> Jool's a
slightly underweight Saturn, anyway
L85[14:58:27] <UmbralRaptop> (80x Kerbin,
Saturn is 95x Earth)
L86[15:01:04] <Althego> so moving eeloo a
bit out, adding a moon to it maybe, and putting a gas giant between
jool and eeloo
L87[15:01:12] <Althego> at least this much
should happen
L88[15:01:41] <Althego> now maybe for 1.6
they can rework the engine looks if this is the route they wanted
to take
L89[15:02:26] <Eddi|zuHause> or Dres
getting a companion?
L90[15:02:41] <JVFoxy> Eddi|zuHause naw..
not really. I haven't even gone past Mimnus yet
L91[15:02:41] <Eddi|zuHause> Wusta
L92[15:02:58] <JVFoxy> planetary rings
would be neat
L93[15:03:09] <JVFoxy> .... weather on
kerbin..
L94[15:03:25] <Althego> at least weather
could run on a separate core
L95[15:03:45] <Althego> doesnt need to be
too sophisticated
L96[15:04:18] <UmbralRaptop> Asteroid
belt?
L97[15:04:22] <darsie> This is not Earth.
This is Kerbin.
L98[15:04:25] <JVFoxy> even if its jsut
visual cloud system... player can adjust it
L99[15:04:51] <JVFoxy> no clouds, makes me
think dry wasteland.. if not for ice caps
L100[15:05:07] <Althego> vlouds is one
thing
L101[15:05:09] <Althego> i want
winds
L102[15:05:12] <darsie> They should rather
make the solar system better moddable, so we don't have to tilt it
to make Earth tilted.
L103[15:05:30] <darsie> Then mods can add
all the planets one wants.
L104[15:05:31] <Althego> somebody made a
mod that has real axial tilt
L105[15:05:46] <Althego> despite the devs
saying it is impossible :)
L108[15:07:06] <JVFoxy> don'tk now about
impossible... probably just wasn't a priority for them
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L112[15:10:24] <JVFoxy> ooh... almost
forgot
L113[15:10:33] <JVFoxy> anyone here use
dual screens and play KSP on one?
L114[15:13:09] <Althego> btw why didnt
they change the rocket model that is nose in the mun on the menu
screen?
L115[15:13:12] <Althego>
inconsistent
L116[15:13:18] <Althego> they changed the
kerbal suit
L117[15:14:23] <JVFoxy> mun or bust?
reference to Kurt's Farlands or Bust? shrug... doesn't bother
me.
L118[15:16:02] <JVFoxy> at least they
fixed Val having a visor back one of the updates
L119[15:16:24] <Althego> that was long
ago
L120[15:16:29] <Althego> or did it happen
again?
L121[15:17:14] <JVFoxy> think latest puts
reflections on the visors?
L122[15:17:39] <Althego> yes
L123[15:17:43] <JVFoxy> but ya.. for a
little bit. Val was without a helmet visor. I hadn't really noticed
till I saw someone mention it
L124[15:17:48] <Althego> with the suit
redesign
L125[15:17:59] <Althego> so it happened
again lol
L126[15:19:18] <JVFoxy> ?
L127[15:19:47] <Althego> long ago
L128[15:19:55] <Althego> when the upside
down kerbal was changed to valentina
L129[15:20:05] <Althego> there was no
visor for a while
L130[15:21:57] <JVFoxy> ah the old
days...
L131[15:22:25] <JVFoxy> but anyways..
getting back to dual screen. I guess its more an issue for those
that play previous versions ksp after they introduced ability to
pick which screen you use
L132[15:23:09] <Althego> i favor one big
screen because it has fewer issues. just as i never make the
machine sleep because it also has issues
L133[15:25:03] <JVFoxy> its just ... when
I tried to run an older version, it switched to my alternate
screen.. after one of the version updates, how it decides which
screen it uses was changed.. gotta manually change windows
reg
L134[15:28:16] <Eddi|zuHause>
<JVFoxy> mun or bust? reference to Kurt's Farlands or Bust?
<-- i think "<x> or bust" was a meme long before
memes were a meme
L135[15:28:26] <Althego> yes
L136[15:31:41] <UmbralRaptop>
"California or bust" - 1849 (I think)
L137[15:32:18] <UmbralRaptop> At least
that's where I want to type that the meme started
L138[15:32:53] <Eddi|zuHause> i've read
something about farmers in the great plains using "california
or bust" in the 1930s, when droughts had them leave their
farms to go west
L139[15:33:32] <Eddi|zuHause> it's a bit
fuzzy on whether that's actually the origin, though
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L142[15:42:14] <JVFoxy> Kurt did get name
in credits...
L143[15:42:19] *
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L146[15:47:29] <Eddi|zuHause> wow what a
feat, it's like twice the resolution than when i look out my
window
L147[15:47:55] <UmbralRaptop> shiny
L148[15:47:57] <Eddi|zuHause>
</irony>
L149[15:49:13] <JVFoxy> suppose to get
closer isn't it?
L150[15:50:16] <Althego> yes, bith
cubesats are going to make a flyby and hopefully relay the signals
during edl of insight
L151[15:50:21] <Eddi|zuHause> i do get
that the point of the image isn't what's on the image, but to test
whether the camera still works
L152[15:51:01] <Althego> i dont even know
what the camera does on this thing
L153[15:51:30] <Althego> is it intended to
watch the parachute open or what?
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L155[15:55:48] <Eddi|zuHause> yay,
detached a (retracted) solar panel, put it carefully on the ground,
and it explodes...
L156[15:56:00] <Althego> hehe
L157[15:56:05] <Althego> in ksp everything
explode
L158[15:56:06] <Althego> s
L159[15:57:10] <JVFoxy> explodium
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L161[15:57:23] <JVFoxy> who was that one
director.. has everything exploding?
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L163[15:57:53] <Althego> michael
bay?
L164[15:57:54] <UmbralRaptop>
Nedelin?
L165[15:59:37] <JVFoxy> ah.. bay
L166[16:00:08] <JVFoxy> remember someone
did a joke off him.. commercial. Shopping cart chasing after a car.
Ends up flying off a cliff, exploding
L167[16:02:20] <Althego> so each marco has
2 cameras, 752x480, what a resolution lol
L168[16:02:51] <Althego> the wide angle
one is only there to see if the high gain antenna deployed
L169[16:03:20] <Althego> the other one is
going to look at mars during the flyby
L170[16:03:47] <Althego> or at least it
seems so
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L172[16:06:40] <Althego> so basically
based on this, the picture was taken by the wide field one
L173[16:07:16] <Althego> if they used the
other one, mars could have been a bit better, but maybe they did
not trust they can orient it that finely
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L176[16:16:14] <JVFoxy> ....
L177[16:16:20] <JVFoxy> how to screen shot
title screen?
L178[16:16:25] <JVFoxy> something weird
happened
L179[16:16:42] <Eddi|zuHause> so, taking a
drive with my rover towards that other old lander nearby makes me
think i landed on the shadowiest place on minimus pole...
L180[16:17:13] <Eddi|zuHause> i just use
my regular OS screenshot tool (PrtScr key) to take
screenshots
L183[16:18:16] <Eddi|zuHause> great font
you have there, would be ashame if anything happened to it!
L184[16:18:40] <JVFoxy> load page same
thing....
L185[16:18:47] <JVFoxy> run game, come
back to title screen, back to normal.
L186[16:19:23] <JVFoxy> Imma reload game
just in case anyways.. just thought it was funny
L187[16:19:41] <Eddi|zuHause> my guess is
a fault somewhere between unity and your OS, nothing the game can
actually influence much
L188[16:20:28] <Eddi|zuHause> still
contemplating taking apart my rover to move the base
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L190[16:22:41] <JVFoxy> I suspect when I
started the game loading, forced it into the background, it burped
on something. It used to just crash near the end of the loading
back some versions ago.
L191[16:24:08] <Eddi|zuHause> i would
suspect some mod incompatibility there first
L192[16:25:58] <JVFoxy> perhaps... only
its just stock game
L193[16:26:34] <Eddi|zuHause> then you
have a weird graphics driver
L194[16:28:57] <JVFoxy> well.. as I said.
I forced the load into the background...
L195[16:29:19] <JVFoxy> think the
transition hit it at a bad moment
L196[16:51:19] <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, but
just because people rationalised for themselves that "ah well,
alt-tab sometimes screws up things" doesn't mean that's the
right way that things should work
L197[16:52:12] <JVFoxy> in the past... if
I didn't leave ksp loading up on the screen, usually it would
crash
L198[16:52:30] <JVFoxy> not sure what got
fixed.. hasn't been an issue since one of the updates a while
back
L199[16:53:49] <Eddi|zuHause> i've found
some article attributing the origin of "<x> or
bust" to some gold rush in colorado in the 1850s/60s
L200[16:54:22] <Eddi|zuHause> but that
also doesn't sound very credible as the actual first origin
L201[17:03:13] <JVFoxy> lol.. went to undo
a part move, ends up removing fuel (was doing balance check), to go
launch plane. Massive fire blast despite lack of fuel
L202[17:04:38] <Eddi|zuHause> all parts
are made of a combination of explosive plastic and explosive
aluminium
L203[17:05:36] <JVFoxy> and... plane flies
like junk anyways
L204[17:05:43] <JVFoxy> gets off but pitch
just rubish...
L205[17:06:08] <JVFoxy> was trying twin
engine version of tiny flier... single engine seemed to turn
better, but lacked acceleration..
L206[17:10:56] <JVFoxy> keep meaning to do
a multi objective mission...
L207[17:11:11] <JVFoxy> constantly landing
on steep slopes on teh mun gets a little.. discourging
L208[17:11:59] <darsie> JVFoxy: Try Minmus
;).
L209[17:12:39] <JVFoxy> Eventually...
there I can do a lot more. Though I'll wanna stay longer since
getting out there takes time.
L210[17:13:02] <JVFoxy> just.. one
contract asks me to do mun orbit..
L211[17:20:18] <Eddi|zuHause> you could
make a mun flyby to minimus, and disconnect a satellite there that
makes mun orbit
L212[17:21:02] <Eddi|zuHause> during mun
PE separate the satellite and make an insertion burn with only
that, the other ship continues (or uses gravity assist)
L213[17:21:49] <JVFoxy> as it is.. craft
has 3 sci juniors, designed to land, a few experiments, take off,
ditch everything but canister and probe. return
L214[17:22:20] <JVFoxy> having to do a
minor redesign though..
L215[17:22:44] <Eddi|zuHause> 3 sci junior
sounds excessive
L216[17:22:44] <JVFoxy> that little
heatshield does squat.. having to uprate it. more weight..
L217[17:23:03] <JVFoxy> 1 sci junior for
high mun or bit, 1 for low, 1 for surface
L218[17:23:22] <JVFoxy> dump results into
can, eject back to kerbin
L219[17:23:34] <Eddi|zuHause> wouldn't it
be easier to add a capsule and a scientist to reset one sci junior?
(have more things to return though)
L220[17:24:58] <JVFoxy> crewed mission,
would need pod for pilot and scientist..
L221[17:25:31] <JVFoxy> if I'm using a
probe instead of pilot, may as well just robotic the whole
thing.
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