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L6[00:38:26] <mec> I'm trying to get to
Eve and the Delta-V map says intercept to capture should only take
80 but at 100km periapsis my Delta-V to capture is over 1k,
what's with the discrepancy?
L7[00:39:26] <Althego> probably starting
inclination
L8[00:40:45] <Althego> because of the large
inclination difference between kerbin and eve, when you look at the
http://alexmoon.github.io/ksp/ there will be some
angles for injection burn
L9[00:40:55] <Althego> now those angles make
a huge difference
L10[00:41:36] <Althego> one is inclination
the other is ejection angle
L11[00:41:57] <Althego> you dont just fly
at kerbin retrograde to get to eve
L12[00:42:31] <mec> so I left at a bad time
and even tho I got to eve I'm flying by so fast that it takes
extra delta-v over what the optimal would have been?
L13[00:42:34] <taniwha> in general, you
never launch retrograde
L14[00:43:31] <taniwha> (the exception is
when you /need/ to be in a retrograde orbit around kerbin. usually
for an oddball rescue or satellite contract)
L15[00:43:47] <Althego> because it is an
optimum of several factors, you have to vary your travel time, so
that you arrive to eve when it is close to the ascending/descending
node, and one way to do it is to change the ejection angle.
L16[00:44:19] <Althego> taniwha: i meant
retrograde compared to the orbital motion of kerbin
L17[00:44:36] <Althego> unrelated to your
orbit around kerbin
L18[00:45:48] <taniwha> I thought you were
saying that launching retrograde around Kerbin wouldn't help,
so I thought I was backing you up
L19[00:46:13] <Althego> that is also true
but i was not talking about that
L20[00:46:53] <Althego> here in this
example, the recommended start time is year 2 day 160, and even
there ejection angle is 153 degrees and there is 3.62 degrees
inclination too
L21[00:47:11] <Althego> so it is not 180
degrees what would seem obvious at first glance
L22[00:48:23] <mec> hmm that all seems like
it would affect the efficiency of leaving kerbin to get to eve, why
is the capture burn affected so much?
L23[00:49:28] <Althego> because the closer
your velocity vector is eve's the less you need to change.
there are travel orbits that intersect eve at the correct point,
where eve is, but they are far away in velocity
L24[00:50:08] <mec> ah that makes more
sense
L25[00:50:14] <Althego> so if you think of
a hohmann transfer, it is a tangent to the target orbit
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L27[00:50:52] <Althego> whch such wildly
different orbits it is hard to get a hohmann transfer. and those
are not tangent but intersecting orbits, which need more change at
the arrival
L29[00:51:10] <kmath> YouTube - DRACO - The
Most Badass Monster Bush Plane EVER!
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L56[04:43:33] <Rolf> tough
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L58[04:44:39] <Althego> hah!
L59[04:44:41] <Althego> finally
L60[04:44:49] <Althego> oh wi
L61[04:44:55] <Althego> tno, it is
curiosity, that was alive
L62[04:45:01] <Althego> it just had some
engineering problems
L63[04:45:05] <Rolf> yeah side B is having
issues
L64[04:45:17] <Rolf> A died a while ago but
thankfully was usable enough for debugging
L65[04:45:19] <Althego> i though for a
moment it was opportunity
L66[04:45:23] <Althego> confusing
names
L67[04:45:53] <Althego> they switched from
a to b because of some issues, and never switched back, but it is
not dead
L68[04:46:00] <Rolf> ram corruption
L69[04:46:13] <Rolf> B was unable to store
science data
L70[04:46:33] <Althego> lol 5 watt
cpu
L71[04:46:39] <Althego> that is
laughable
L73[04:49:21] <Althego> at least these are
relatively powerful, compared to spirit and opportunity
L74[04:49:39] <Rolf> yeah. whats happening
with oppoortunity tho?
L75[04:49:41] <Althego> those are almost
microcontroller level
L76[04:50:04] <Althego> and i still cant
get over the fact that they ran real time computer vision on them
during landing
L77[04:50:33] <Althego> nothing
L78[04:50:38] <Althego> or rather we dont
know
L79[04:51:16] <Rolf> aliens probably took
over it ti orevent it from seeing their base ;)
L81[04:51:45] <Althego> it is still ther
where we left it
L82[04:52:08] <Althego> with tau around 1.1
it is visible from orbit
L83[04:52:33] <Althego> that is why i
started to worry, because it means now it should be able to charge
the battery, yet it didnt report in
L84[04:52:34] <Rolf> sure didnt say it
moved ;)
L85[04:52:51] <Althego> i couldnt
understand what "ti orevent" meant :)
L86[04:53:03] <Rolf> to prevent
L88[04:53:40] <Rolf> looks pretty
amazing
L89[04:53:49] <Althego> hehe
L90[04:53:57] <Althego> somehow it is not
even ridiculous
L91[04:54:17] <Rolf> as bonus at end, there
is another crossover, but in other direction
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L103[06:08:07] *
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L104[06:12:30] <pixelfox> more cruiser
experiments with interstellar :P
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L119[07:46:13] <BadRocketsCo> Howdy!
L120[07:46:33] <BadRocketsCo> Has anyone
here had a problem with solar panels losing their
functionality?
L121[07:46:44] <BadRocketsCo> (Playing
with mods)
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L132[09:07:26] <Guest39273> Hello
L133[09:07:27] <Mod9000> Hello,
Guest39273
L134[09:07:51] <Guest39273> Hi
L135[09:07:53] <Mod9000> Hello,
Guest39273
L136[09:08:08] <Guest39273> how can i get
mods
L137[09:09:09] <Deddly> sorry
L138[09:09:13] <Deddly> one mo
L139[09:10:26] <Deddly>
forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com
L140[09:10:43] <Deddly> :)
L141[09:18:06] <Deddly> (add-on
releases)
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L175[11:29:06] <Guest81241> I don't
know how to get rss and ro to download and work for me. Can anybody
help?
L176[11:30:10] <darsie> #ro
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L183[11:41:32] <Guest81241> anybody?
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L187[11:48:11] <darsie> try there
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L207[13:14:58] <Rhys989> Hi guys, is there
a way to have the game so that the rigid attachment option in VAB
part interface is on by default? A game file maybe?
L208[13:16:51] <UmbralRaptor> maybe.
I'd want to check settings.cfg
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L211[13:21:05] <Rhys989> hmmi did not see
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L229[14:23:25] <Rhys989> .
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L231[14:24:02] <Rhys989> I found this in a
read me file
L232[14:24:03] <Rhys989> * Support Rigid
Attachment (non-bendy) option for part joints in cfg and in the
PAW.
L233[14:24:44] <Rhys989> but I could not
find a pace to change rigid attachment to on as default in any of
the setting files or cfg
L234[14:25:11] <Rhys989> and I could not
find a PAW
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L248[15:38:36] <Eddi|zuHause> Fluburtur:
interestingly, there are about 2 "countries" that
"don't exist" for every country that exists
L249[15:39:08] <Fluburtur> like half of
the regions in france?
L250[15:39:56] <Eddi|zuHause> depends how
far you're going with the definition of "active
separatist movement"
L251[15:40:39] <Fluburtur> if it just
random farmers going "is our country" then at least 2 or
3 that I know of
L252[15:41:05] <Eddi|zuHause> i
wasn't really counting those
L253[15:41:57] <Eddi|zuHause> i was
thinking of things like "Transnistria" or
"Catalonia"
L254[15:43:01] <Eddi|zuHause> also your
map is outdated, for example "south sudan" is a country
that now exists
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L256[15:44:26] <Fluburtur> my friend sent
me that from reddit so it could be
L257[15:44:50] <Eddi|zuHause> it's
been what? 2 years?
L258[15:45:33] <Eddi|zuHause> no, 7 years,
according to skimming wikipedia
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L260[15:47:43] <Althego> does abkhazia
exist?
L261[15:48:18] <Eddi|zuHause> i'd put
that in the same category as the other two i mentioned
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L264[15:53:53] <kmath> YouTube - The $69
Gaming PC RETURNS
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L267[15:59:05] <sandbox> I saw that in my
recommended videos and thought "nah"
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L287[18:21:41] <Draconiator> I WILL buy an
old laptop if the price is low enough at a thrift store...LGR finds
old CRT TVs for like a dollar so *shrug*
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L290[18:26:09] <Eddi|zuHause> wtf would
anyone want a CRT for?
L291[18:26:31] <Eddi|zuHause> life got so
much easier with LCD screens
L292[18:27:59] <FLHerne> Really good CRTs
are still pretty damn good (until you need to move them)
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L294[18:28:29] <FLHerne> Oh, skimmed over
the 'TVs'
L295[18:28:43] <FLHerne> Nah, never worth
it
L296[18:28:50] <Eddi|zuHause> maybe some
rare computer screens, but TVs?
L297[18:29:10] <QuadRaptor> Presumably for
old consoles?
L298[18:29:16] <FLHerne> Not even very
rare ones
L299[18:30:02] <Eddi|zuHause> i've
had a giant 21" CRT monitor once
L300[18:30:07] <FLHerne> Even
'normal' good CRT monitors had much better colour
fidelity and viewing angle than nearly any LCD until recently
L301[18:30:23] <Eddi|zuHause> it had a
colour problem in a corner
L302[18:31:09] <FLHerne> (now you can get
IPS or OLED flat-panels, but they're still rather more
expensive)
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L304[18:32:01] <FLHerne> And yes, for the
very specific niche of retro console gaming there's nothing
like a CRT
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L308[18:32:30] <Eddi|zuHause> i did notice
some less optimal colour stuff (like yellow-white-distinction) with
my first LCD screen
L309[18:32:36] <Eddi|zuHause> but i would
not go back
L310[18:32:40] <FLHerne> Maybe fake CRT
blur looks good on 4k displays? Certainly at FHD it just
doesn't work
L311[18:33:31] <FLHerne> Depends ow much
spare desk space you have ;-)
L312[18:34:09] <FLHerne> But no, I did
give up on my CRT when moving house a couple of years ago
L313[18:34:10] <Eddi|zuHause> imagine
running dual-monitor with CRT :p
L314[18:34:42] <FLHerne> I don't have
to, I had them once :D
L315[18:34:50] *
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L317[18:35:37] <Draconiator> we grew up
with CRT monitors...Looking back those things were SOOOOOOOO hard
to move around I wouldn't go back if you paid me lol
L318[18:36:34] <Eddi|zuHause> and CRT TVs
used to be sooooo expensive
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L320[18:38:02] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm
sure if you calculated the cost when we got our first colour TV in
the 80s to todays money, that would be more than a big LCD TV costs
now
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L351[21:34:22] <kmath> YouTube - Building
a NEW (OLD) Windows 98 Gaming PC! - Hardware, Accessories &
Games
L353[21:35:23] <kmath> YouTube - SAOCOM 1A
Mission
L354[21:47:01] <darsie> ksp should order
its stages properly. First stage to light should be first.
L356[22:18:17] <darsie> Did the initial
throttle position change from 0.5 to 0?
L357[22:27:16] <UmbralRaptor> I forget,
but you can change the default now.
L358[22:29:07] <darsie> thx. found
it.
L359[22:33:14] <UmbralRaptor> Yay
L360[22:36:04] <cringe> ISS UTL: 37%
L361[22:39:01] <UmbralRaptor>
'evening, cringe
L362[22:39:21] <cringe> o7
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