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L1[00:03:57] <Althego> https://twitter.com/VayroGryphon/status/1048327476626292736?s=19
L2[00:03:57] <kmath> <VayroGryphon> Free Epson Printer ⏎ Needs tuning https://t.co/eQa0J6PZIT
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L6[00:38:26] <mec> I'm trying to get to Eve and the Delta-V map says intercept to capture should only take 80 but at 100km periapsis my Delta-V to capture is over 1k, what's with the discrepancy?
L7[00:39:26] <Althego> probably starting inclination
L8[00:40:45] <Althego> because of the large inclination difference between kerbin and eve, when you look at the http://alexmoon.github.io/ksp/ there will be some angles for injection burn
L9[00:40:55] <Althego> now those angles make a huge difference
L10[00:41:36] <Althego> one is inclination the other is ejection angle
L11[00:41:57] <Althego> you dont just fly at kerbin retrograde to get to eve
L12[00:42:31] <mec> so I left at a bad time and even tho I got to eve I'm flying by so fast that it takes extra delta-v over what the optimal would have been?
L13[00:42:34] <taniwha> in general, you never launch retrograde
L14[00:43:31] <taniwha> (the exception is when you /need/ to be in a retrograde orbit around kerbin. usually for an oddball rescue or satellite contract)
L15[00:43:47] <Althego> because it is an optimum of several factors, you have to vary your travel time, so that you arrive to eve when it is close to the ascending/descending node, and one way to do it is to change the ejection angle.
L16[00:44:19] <Althego> taniwha: i meant retrograde compared to the orbital motion of kerbin
L17[00:44:36] <Althego> unrelated to your orbit around kerbin
L18[00:45:48] <taniwha> I thought you were saying that launching retrograde around Kerbin wouldn't help, so I thought I was backing you up
L19[00:46:13] <Althego> that is also true but i was not talking about that
L20[00:46:53] <Althego> here in this example, the recommended start time is year 2 day 160, and even there ejection angle is 153 degrees and there is 3.62 degrees inclination too
L21[00:47:11] <Althego> so it is not 180 degrees what would seem obvious at first glance
L22[00:48:23] <mec> hmm that all seems like it would affect the efficiency of leaving kerbin to get to eve, why is the capture burn affected so much?
L23[00:49:28] <Althego> because the closer your velocity vector is eve's the less you need to change. there are travel orbits that intersect eve at the correct point, where eve is, but they are far away in velocity
L24[00:50:08] <mec> ah that makes more sense
L25[00:50:14] <Althego> so if you think of a hohmann transfer, it is a tangent to the target orbit
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L27[00:50:52] <Althego> whch such wildly different orbits it is hard to get a hohmann transfer. and those are not tangent but intersecting orbits, which need more change at the arrival
L28[00:51:10] <transitbiker> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqhI4MeCn1c
L29[00:51:10] <kmath> YouTube - DRACO - The Most Badass Monster Bush Plane EVER!
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L55[04:43:29] <Rolf> wow. curiosity is alive. https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/278160-nasa-switches-curiosity-rover-to-backup-computer-following-glitch
L56[04:43:33] <Rolf> tough
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L58[04:44:39] <Althego> hah!
L59[04:44:41] <Althego> finally
L60[04:44:49] <Althego> oh wi
L61[04:44:55] <Althego> tno, it is curiosity, that was alive
L62[04:45:01] <Althego> it just had some engineering problems
L63[04:45:05] <Rolf> yeah side B is having issues
L64[04:45:17] <Rolf> A died a while ago but thankfully was usable enough for debugging
L65[04:45:19] <Althego> i though for a moment it was opportunity
L66[04:45:23] <Althego> confusing names
L67[04:45:53] <Althego> they switched from a to b because of some issues, and never switched back, but it is not dead
L68[04:46:00] <Rolf> ram corruption
L69[04:46:13] <Rolf> B was unable to store science data
L70[04:46:33] <Althego> lol 5 watt cpu
L71[04:46:39] <Althego> that is laughable
L72[04:48:59] <Rolf> fun
L73[04:49:21] <Althego> at least these are relatively powerful, compared to spirit and opportunity
L74[04:49:39] <Rolf> yeah. whats happening with oppoortunity tho?
L75[04:49:41] <Althego> those are almost microcontroller level
L76[04:50:04] <Althego> and i still cant get over the fact that they ran real time computer vision on them during landing
L77[04:50:33] <Althego> nothing
L78[04:50:38] <Althego> or rather we dont know
L79[04:51:16] <Rolf> aliens probably took over it ti orevent it from seeing their base ;)
L80[04:51:32] <Rolf> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d5/Marvin_the_Martian.svg/1200px-Marvin_the_Martian.svg.png
L81[04:51:45] <Althego> it is still ther where we left it
L82[04:52:08] <Althego> with tau around 1.1 it is visible from orbit
L83[04:52:33] <Althego> that is why i started to worry, because it means now it should be able to charge the battery, yet it didnt report in
L84[04:52:34] <Rolf> sure didnt say it moved ;)
L85[04:52:51] <Althego> i couldnt understand what "ti orevent" meant :)
L86[04:53:03] <Rolf> to prevent
L87[04:53:34] <Rolf> btw there was a marvin the martian and martian manhunter crossover. https://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/STL046490-625x352.jpg
L88[04:53:40] <Rolf> looks pretty amazing
L89[04:53:49] <Althego> hehe
L90[04:53:57] <Althego> somehow it is not even ridiculous
L91[04:54:17] <Rolf> as bonus at end, there is another crossover, but in other direction
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L103[06:08:07] * pixelfox drops out of warp 1.3
L104[06:12:30] <pixelfox> more cruiser experiments with interstellar :P
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L119[07:46:13] <BadRocketsCo> Howdy!
L120[07:46:33] <BadRocketsCo> Has anyone here had a problem with solar panels losing their functionality?
L121[07:46:44] <BadRocketsCo> (Playing with mods)
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L132[09:07:26] <Guest39273> Hello
L133[09:07:27] <Mod9000> Hello, Guest39273
L134[09:07:51] <Guest39273> Hi
L135[09:07:53] <Mod9000> Hello, Guest39273
L136[09:08:08] <Guest39273> how can i get mods
L137[09:09:09] <Deddly> sorry
L138[09:09:13] <Deddly> one mo
L139[09:10:26] <Deddly> forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com
L140[09:10:43] <Deddly> :)
L141[09:18:06] <Deddly> (add-on releases)
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L157[10:40:08] <darsie> Scott built a rocket that flies to orbit all by itself with just launching it with pressing space once. This is my take: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot77.png Flies to a 87/313 km orbit.
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L160[10:45:40] <Fluburtur> https://66.media.tumblr.com/13873e94eaff48234da74dd777b64f23/tumblr_inline_p7l1e5w5WH1s48u4s_540.jpg
L161[10:45:54] <SirWhales> ...
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L175[11:29:06] <Guest81241> I don't know how to get rss and ro to download and work for me. Can anybody help?
L176[11:30:10] <darsie> #ro
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L183[11:41:32] <Guest81241> anybody?
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L186[11:48:01] <darsie> #ro
L187[11:48:11] <darsie> try there
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L207[13:14:58] <Rhys989> Hi guys, is there a way to have the game so that the rigid attachment option in VAB part interface is on by default? A game file maybe?
L208[13:16:51] <UmbralRaptor> maybe. I'd want to check settings.cfg
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L210[13:20:11] <Fluburtur> https://preview.redd.it/unlkqlzx9no11.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&s=e29ff75fca6c4d77aefccad8c09a1fb9850a07f5
L211[13:21:05] <Rhys989> hmmi did not see that file. I will look again
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L229[14:23:25] <Rhys989> .
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L231[14:24:02] <Rhys989> I found this in a read me file
L232[14:24:03] <Rhys989> * Support Rigid Attachment (non-bendy) option for part joints in cfg and in the PAW.
L233[14:24:44] <Rhys989> but I could not find a pace to change rigid attachment to on as default in any of the setting files or cfg
L234[14:25:11] <Rhys989> and I could not find a PAW
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L248[15:38:36] <Eddi|zuHause> Fluburtur: interestingly, there are about 2 "countries" that "don't exist" for every country that exists
L249[15:39:08] <Fluburtur> like half of the regions in france?
L250[15:39:56] <Eddi|zuHause> depends how far you're going with the definition of "active separatist movement"
L251[15:40:39] <Fluburtur> if it just random farmers going "is our country" then at least 2 or 3 that I know of
L252[15:41:05] <Eddi|zuHause> i wasn't really counting those
L253[15:41:57] <Eddi|zuHause> i was thinking of things like "Transnistria" or "Catalonia"
L254[15:43:01] <Eddi|zuHause> also your map is outdated, for example "south sudan" is a country that now exists
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L256[15:44:26] <Fluburtur> my friend sent me that from reddit so it could be
L257[15:44:50] <Eddi|zuHause> it's been what? 2 years?
L258[15:45:33] <Eddi|zuHause> no, 7 years, according to skimming wikipedia
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L260[15:47:43] <Althego> does abkhazia exist?
L261[15:48:18] <Eddi|zuHause> i'd put that in the same category as the other two i mentioned
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L263[15:53:53] <Draconiator> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAFuawsN-1I
L264[15:53:53] <kmath> YouTube - The $69 Gaming PC RETURNS
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L267[15:59:05] <sandbox> I saw that in my recommended videos and thought "nah"
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L287[18:21:41] <Draconiator> I WILL buy an old laptop if the price is low enough at a thrift store...LGR finds old CRT TVs for like a dollar so *shrug*
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L290[18:26:09] <Eddi|zuHause> wtf would anyone want a CRT for?
L291[18:26:31] <Eddi|zuHause> life got so much easier with LCD screens
L292[18:27:59] <FLHerne> Really good CRTs are still pretty damn good (until you need to move them)
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L294[18:28:29] <FLHerne> Oh, skimmed over the 'TVs'
L295[18:28:43] <FLHerne> Nah, never worth it
L296[18:28:50] <Eddi|zuHause> maybe some rare computer screens, but TVs?
L297[18:29:10] <QuadRaptor> Presumably for old consoles?
L298[18:29:16] <FLHerne> Not even very rare ones
L299[18:30:02] <Eddi|zuHause> i've had a giant 21" CRT monitor once
L300[18:30:07] <FLHerne> Even 'normal' good CRT monitors had much better colour fidelity and viewing angle than nearly any LCD until recently
L301[18:30:23] <Eddi|zuHause> it had a colour problem in a corner
L302[18:31:09] <FLHerne> (now you can get IPS or OLED flat-panels, but they're still rather more expensive)
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L304[18:32:01] <FLHerne> And yes, for the very specific niche of retro console gaming there's nothing like a CRT
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L308[18:32:30] <Eddi|zuHause> i did notice some less optimal colour stuff (like yellow-white-distinction) with my first LCD screen
L309[18:32:36] <Eddi|zuHause> but i would not go back
L310[18:32:40] <FLHerne> Maybe fake CRT blur looks good on 4k displays? Certainly at FHD it just doesn't work
L311[18:33:31] <FLHerne> Depends ow much spare desk space you have ;-)
L312[18:34:09] <FLHerne> But no, I did give up on my CRT when moving house a couple of years ago
L313[18:34:10] <Eddi|zuHause> imagine running dual-monitor with CRT :p
L314[18:34:42] <FLHerne> I don't have to, I had them once :D
L315[18:34:50] * OctoRaptor used to do that
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L317[18:35:37] <Draconiator> we grew up with CRT monitors...Looking back those things were SOOOOOOOO hard to move around I wouldn't go back if you paid me lol
L318[18:36:34] <Eddi|zuHause> and CRT TVs used to be sooooo expensive
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L320[18:38:02] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm sure if you calculated the cost when we got our first colour TV in the 80s to todays money, that would be more than a big LCD TV costs now
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L350[21:34:22] <Draconiator> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wktwFaCA3Jg
L351[21:34:22] <kmath> YouTube - Building a NEW (OLD) Windows 98 Gaming PC! - Hardware, Accessories & Games
L352[21:35:23] <darsie> Falcon 9 flight finished: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr_C6LQ7mHc
L353[21:35:23] <kmath> YouTube - SAOCOM 1A Mission
L354[21:47:01] <darsie> ksp should order its stages properly. First stage to light should be first.
L355[22:13:42] <Draconiator> https://i.gyazo.com/43fb26fc38e70722646a4d9bca8ab80a.jpg - was messing around with some demos to see what my card can do...this runs at a respectable 15f/s
L356[22:18:17] <darsie> Did the initial throttle position change from 0.5 to 0?
L357[22:27:16] <UmbralRaptor> I forget, but you can change the default now.
L358[22:29:07] <darsie> thx. found it.
L359[22:33:14] <UmbralRaptor> Yay
L360[22:36:04] <cringe> ISS UTL: 37%
L361[22:39:01] <UmbralRaptor> 'evening, cringe
L362[22:39:21] <cringe> o7
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