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L30[03:54:27] <Mat2ch> That thing looks a bit Kerbal https://www.engadget.com/2018/10/04/lockheed-martin-reusable-lunar-lander/

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L32[04:07:16] <Althego> all lunar landers look like that

L33[04:07:26] <Althego> look at those huge engines

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L35[04:13:23] <Mat2ch> Mostly for stopping, I guess...

L36[04:13:34] <Mat2ch> I'd suggest them three engines

L37[04:13:57] <Mat2ch> so when they return they can just use one of them, because it'll have plenty of TWR

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L39[04:37:31] * darsie launched a small rocket: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot68.png , refuelled in orbit: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot71.png and landed on the Mun: http://bksys.at/bernhard/temp/screenshot72.png

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L45[04:46:13] <Gasher[work]> darsie, how much DV does it have?

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L48[04:47:52] <darsie> The upper stage is about 2000 m/s, IIRC.

L49[04:49:31] <darsie> I botched the Mun orbit insertion. forgot to hibernate the computer and went out of EC. Had to decelerate back in teh Sun.

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L51[04:51:17] <darsie> Stage 1 2175 m/s, Stage 2 (without nose cone) 2007 m/s.

L52[04:56:38] <Gasher[work]> aha

L53[04:59:30] <Althego> cute tiny lander

L54[05:01:10] <Gasher[work]> ^

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L72[06:56:47] <kerbaldicks> okie

L73[06:56:50] <kerbaldicks> blin

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L75[06:57:19] <Gasher[work]> blin indeed

L76[06:57:22] <Storm_FireFox1> Huh

L77[06:57:30] <Althego> lol

L78[06:57:42] <Storm_FireFox1> I call bull

L79[06:58:17] <APlayer> Shame I have no easy way to ban people on mobile

L80[06:58:30] <Gasher[work]> for the nick?

L81[06:58:36] <Althego> obviously

L82[06:58:58] <APlayer> Actually I was here to share this: https://i.imgur.com/M1cPrXe_d.jpg?maxwidth=640

L83[06:59:22] <Althego> what if somebody is called richard dickinson? :)

L84[07:00:05] <APlayer> No point in trying to figure it out if it has not happened yet. ;-)

L85[07:00:11] <Gasher[work]> bald icks

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L95[08:34:15] <madmerlyn> you know what irritates me? When people see a game like Destiny or Anthem, and they think the game will "die" if it doesn't keep all the players logging in every day forever

L96[08:34:59] <madmerlyn> if anything, Destiny specifically has proven that people will continue to come back and "throw money at the screen" regardless of how unpopular the last expansion was heh

L97[08:35:33] <madmerlyn> and it's not like a video game cares if you "cheat" on it, bored with game A, play game B until something exciting in A happens

L98[08:39:02] <snow> I've been playing a fair bit of warframe for the last year or so, and it's full of people who take prolonged breaks between major updates

L99[08:39:08] <snow> and the major updates pull everyone back in

L100[08:43:55] <Eddi|zuHause> i'm pretty sure that's how every game goes...

L101[08:45:19] <Eddi|zuHause> just it's more obvious on games that rely on their multiplayerness

L102[08:45:21] <snow> they're not games, they're Live Services /s

L103[08:45:46] <Eddi|zuHause> everything is a game...

L104[08:46:46] <Eddi|zuHause> that's why got away with calling it "game theory" and not "war and economy theory"

L105[08:47:19] <Eddi|zuHause> even though that's exactly what they used it for

L106[08:49:41] <madmerlyn> thing is though, even "live service" games, you don't need 2M people playing for the experience to be good

L107[08:49:56] <madmerlyn> efficient and effective matchmaking and a few thousand people are all you need for that experience to be there

L108[08:50:00] <madmerlyn> and any game will have that

L109[08:50:14] <madmerlyn> or any online game *should* have that anyway

L110[08:51:35] * Eddi|zuHause gets scared at trying to remember the PVP experience in Path of Exile, because it was so bad at matching people of similar skill level

L111[08:54:00] <madmerlyn> PoE/Diablo/ARPGs are historically terrible PvP experiences anyway heh

L112[08:54:19] <madmerlyn> that whole genre should be pretty exclusively single player and co-op IMO heh

L113[08:54:49] <madmerlyn> PvP in ARPGs should be achievement ladders like Diablo does

L114[08:54:57] <madmerlyn> who can clear the hardest rift, etc.

L115[08:55:30] <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, they got plenty of that. and then this half-hearted PvP tucked on top of it...

L116[08:55:50] <Eddi|zuHause> and lots of misguided efforts to force it down players throats

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L122[09:53:57] <madmerlyn> the only cool PvP option I could predict for an ARPG is if they made a MOBA style PvP for one

L123[09:54:17] <madmerlyn> but how do you balance that with the character's preexisting progression

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L126[09:56:23] <Eddi|zuHause> that's where i think everything went wrong, they attempted to "balance" this stuff, which makes the game worse for everybody. instead they should have a method to judge how "OP" the build is, and match with people at similar level of "OPness"

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L154[12:24:09] <Eddi|zuHause> anyone can explain to me why xkcd's "random" button randomly stops working for a few days sporadically?

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L157[12:52:33] <Althego> the obvious answer is, because it is random

L158[12:54:32] * UmbralRaptop thought that the obvious answer was xkcd.com/221

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L166[13:18:29] <Althego> hmm, after andy weir, robert zubrin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BETzFNmPDbA

L167[13:18:29] <kmath> YouTube - Mars And Beyond With Dr. Robert Zubrin

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L171[13:37:48] <Althego> hah dev notes

L172[13:44:51] <Althego> at least we get shiny parts

L173[13:44:58] <Althego> even if there is not much change in the game

L174[13:52:25] <Mat2ch> so, the people from Copenhagen Suborbitals want to build a 100 kN engine

L175[13:52:32] <Fluburtur> https://youtu.be/ERo0lTyUvOk

L176[13:52:33] <kmath> YouTube - Messerschmitt Bf-109 G6 Low & Loud - DB605 SOUND

L177[13:54:00] <Mat2ch> that's in the range of a RL10

L178[13:54:19] <Althego> wait, that is a real one

L179[13:54:21] <Althego> not rc

L180[13:54:28] <Fluburtur> yes

L181[13:54:54] <Althego> was the original a self starter too?

L182[13:55:04] <Fluburtur> probably

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L186[13:57:53] <Althego> end of devnotes... in its current form

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L188[13:58:36] <Fluburtur> lmao startign a jet engine by blowing in it https://youtu.be/uccn1LCUL60

L189[13:58:37] <kmath> YouTube - 3D-printed jet engine; torque?

L190[13:58:58] <Althego> hehe i saw this today

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L221[15:28:54] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/429717171002933269/497867731920617472/DSC_9689.JPG

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L239[16:00:24] <sandbox> heh https://twitter.com/jefmajor/status/1047666730951004160

L240[16:00:25] <kmath> <jefmajor> I ordered a 10 dollar fan and they sent me this: $100+ rgb liquid cooling system. ⏎ ⏎ Punchline: it doesn’t fit my s… https://t.co/yuBA1q3KXS

L241[16:02:02] <sandbox> this guy has the worsr luck

L242[16:02:15] <sandbox> I can't type

L243[16:02:29] <Rolf> yeah $10 for essentally useless ecpensive item

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L251[16:06:01] <Fluburtur> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186190301604347904/497873118908645376/IMG_6710.JPG

L252[16:06:51] <Mat2ch> what are you going to do with this?

L253[16:07:02] <Rolf> giant quadcoper!

L254[16:07:14] <Fluburtur> it is my fridn foamie that has this

L255[16:07:22] <Fluburtur> 8.5hp peak apparentyly

L256[16:07:35] <Fluburtur> he also got another big buzzer https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/255748273967595520/497871695965847552/IMG_0863.JPG

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L258[16:08:29] <Rolf> making a buzzcoper?

L259[16:08:45] <Fluburtur> idk

L260[16:08:56] <Fluburtur> he already made a rc car with a real car horn

L261[16:09:44] <Rolf> bah use a trucker air pressure horn

L262[16:10:11] <Fluburtur> he wanted to use a boat horn next time apparently

L263[16:10:15] <Rolf> even better, train one lol

L264[16:10:17] <Fluburtur> or train at least

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L267[16:15:15] <Fluburtur> Mat2ch Rolf this guy

L268[16:15:20] <FoamieNinja> poof

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L270[16:16:44] <Fluburtur> it is the guy that made the stereo fpv micro quad, the rc car with the horn and the single blade heli

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L272[16:16:50] <Fluburtur> and the big bicopter

L273[16:16:53] <Fluburtur> and many many more

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L275[16:17:48] <FoamieNinja> In other words, I'm that one crazy fellow... xD

L276[16:18:34] <FoamieNinja> I've got that pair of wings from the club meeting now, I should actually make use of that one motor with the single blader on it.

L277[16:19:35] <Rolf> Fluburtur: I wonder if can make quadcoper that uses air pressure to fly, and shape output to make music

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L279[16:19:55] <Rolf> tethered of course

L280[16:20:27] <FoamieNinja> all aircraft use air pressure differences. xD

L281[16:20:46] <Rolf> of course :P

L282[16:20:52] <Fluburtur> I made a flying wing that was making some soft of howl/whistle at high speed

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L284[16:20:58] <Fluburtur> because bottom hinged

L285[16:21:07] <FoamieNinja> needs more of those little air whistles. :P

L286[16:21:23] <Rolf> kawazzicopers lol

L287[16:21:27] <Fluburtur> I have some big nerf darts with the whistles

L288[16:21:36] <Fluburtur> but I want one of those foam bopmbs that does that too

L289[16:21:39] <Rolf> uses 4 kawazzis and air pressure attachment (tethered)

L290[16:21:42] <Fluburtur> and drop from a plane

L291[16:24:03] <Rolf> mispelled word, its kazobo

L292[16:24:16] <Rolf> this type https://sc02.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1C2IOKXXXXXbuXpXXq6xXFXXXZ/Foot-ball-Plastic-Horn-VUVUZELLA.jpg

L293[16:30:58] <FoamieNinja> lel, if it's big enough, just stick a small compressor on it.

L294[16:31:23] <FoamieNinja> in that case, you could upgrade to a small air horn. lol

L295[16:32:18] <Rolf> no, kazobo is the thing lol

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L299[16:50:14] <FoamieNinja> oops. Forgot that doesn't always work.

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L309[17:15:08] <FoamieNinja> o_o

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L312[17:19:48] <UmbralRaptop> Foamie!

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L326[18:25:03] <FoamieNinja> hurro :P

L327[18:25:21] <FoamieNinja> I've been up for two days... I'm disappearing for a while.. xD

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L334[18:31:29] <HansonKerman> Hi

L335[18:31:30] <Mod9000> Hello, HansonKerman

L336[18:31:58] <UmbralRaptop> Greetings

L337[18:32:15] <HansonKerman> So what is this place?

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L341[18:37:24] <HansonKerman> Hello. What is this place?

L342[18:39:23] <UmbralRaptop> As per the /topic, a channel dedicated to Kerbal Space Program.

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L345[18:43:10] <Rolf> kerman hm

L346[18:44:53] <UmbralRaptop> Something something webchat n00bs

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L355[19:19:25] <Draconiator> https://www.amazon.com/Jetway-NP591D4-3150-Braswell-Celeron-Pico-ITX/dp/B01BZ1XIIS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1538785031&sr=8-2&keywords=Pico-ITX - IT'S TINYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

L356[19:32:29] <Cranium> wiat, is that a full computer? WHAT?

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L360[19:53:19] <Draconiator> Almost wanna get a really cheapo router from a thrift store around here, gut it out, and use that as a tiny computer case.

L361[19:55:14] <Rolf> meh just grab some old gaming console thats dead

L362[19:55:16] <Rolf> use that

L363[19:55:34] <Rolf> emulate the same games ut used to run lol

L364[19:56:26] <Cranium> well technically it's a 'standard' case size, surely there're manufactured cases out there for it?

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L376[20:30:58] <Draconiator> Trying something else....video card held on by electrical tape instead of a screw.

L377[20:32:08] <Cranium> I'm sure nothing bad could possibly happen

L378[20:33:18] <umaxtu> its better than what LTT does in their latest video

L379[20:36:09] <Cranium> first 5 secs of that video - oh my god those poor fans

L380[20:36:29] <umaxtu> wait till the condensation starts

L381[20:36:42] <Cranium> ;_;

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L385[20:45:30] <Cranium> umaxtu: using CPU-only block and random fans is the best way to cool your GPU apparently

L386[20:45:44] <Cranium> i did not see this video and i am now glad you told me to

L387[20:46:09] <Cranium> "We need to drill some new mounting hols"

L388[20:46:12] <Cranium> Linus, no

L389[20:46:14] <Cranium> pls no

L390[20:46:15] <umaxtu> well the cards have been out for less than a month? i'm not sure proper blocks are out now

L391[20:47:44] <umaxtu> actually, I think they said something about the actual block being late

L392[20:48:13] <Cranium> kludging a watercooler together because the PROPER water cooler did not arrive in time for the video to be pushed out

L393[20:48:30] <Cranium> Linus, baby....

L394[20:48:40] <Cranium> this is why people laugh at your videos sometimes

L395[20:48:49] <Cranium> you can't hard-schedule videos like this

L396[20:49:07] <Cranium> if something isn't on schedule, then go to PLAN B

L397[20:49:11] <umaxtu> eh, Jayz2cents and gamersnexus kludged theirs

L398[20:50:09] <Cranium> yeah, but Linus Media Group is a bigger company, and they should have the ability and knowhow to schedule a backup video in case plan A doesn't work

L399[20:50:21] <Cranium> this is a constant issue with them

L400[20:50:39] <umaxtu> it usually winds up being more entertaining though

L401[20:50:52] <Cranium> well...technically i suppose

L402[20:53:49] <Cranium> >using a heat gun to de-humidify your homemade watercooling

L403[20:53:53] <Cranium> genius

L404[21:01:30] <Draconiator> Taking a look at that video....those fans are LOUD

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L436[23:36:43] <Althego> singing pipe again. soon a drill is going to follow