OCLogs: 2018-10-01.log

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L4[00:47:26] <Eddi|zuHause> i imagine that's easier than redoing the third step in your actual model

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L7[01:23:58] <GlassYuri> geocities will fully shut down in march next year

L8[01:24:26] <Althego> what, it hasnt already?

L9[01:24:38] <GlassYuri> everywhere except japan

L10[01:24:38] <Althego> i though that happened some 1/2 years ago

L11[01:25:16] <GlassYuri> outside of japan it went out many years ago

L12[01:27:24] <Althego> hehe it was in 2009, which means i am really gettign old :)

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L25[04:19:56] <Eddi|zuHause> is "geocities will finally shut down" the new "voyager has left the solar system"?

L26[04:20:07] <Rolf> lol

L27[04:20:18] <Rolf> geocities is simply overacting the death scene

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L78[07:09:33] <transitbiker> bwoop

L79[07:13:57] <Althego> tadün

L80[07:14:38] * transitbiker has a hypersensitivity to bs and a severe allergy to drama

L81[07:15:01] * transitbiker starts awareness/support group

L82[07:15:06] <transitbiker> xx

L83[07:15:11] <transitbiker> x-x*

L84[07:15:19] <transitbiker> so how are you all today?

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L86[07:22:56] <Mat2ch> I was in a cinema last week and next to me sat a girl coughing the whole movie. You may guess once who's sick now.

L87[07:23:07] <Gasher[work]> she?

L88[07:26:30] <Mat2ch> well, she should be fine by now

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L96[07:58:39] <transitbiker> i'd have moved

L97[07:58:59] <transitbiker> need to get my flu shot today

L98[07:59:07] <transitbiker> thanks for the reminder ^-^

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L100[08:07:48] <Mat2ch> transitbiker: the cinema was fully packed

L101[08:08:02] <transitbiker> i'd have left then x-x

L102[08:08:20] <transitbiker> i actually bring face masks with me to places like that during cold/flu season

L103[08:08:51] <Mat2ch> it's not flu season yet...

L104[08:10:15] <Mat2ch> just a girl who didn't stay at home when she was sick

L105[08:10:53] <transitbiker> ... right .. during cold/flu season

L106[08:11:16] <transitbiker> anyways, i'd rather get a refund and come another time

L107[08:11:20] <transitbiker> vs get sick

L108[08:13:07] <Mat2ch> the movie only ran once there. The only other chance I would have had to watch it would have been to get the blue-ray

L109[08:13:14] <Mat2ch> it was a film festival

L110[08:13:31] <Mat2ch> and no, it's still too warm where I'm at for flu season

L111[08:13:40] <Mat2ch> that will start maybe next month

L112[08:15:29] <transitbiker> i'm not saying it is flu season

L113[08:17:13] <Mat2ch> then I missinterpreted

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L128[09:21:35] <Althego> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hLh-bFuE44

L129[09:21:35] <kmath> YouTube - Edvin Marton - Moon [Official Video]

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L132[09:25:50] <Mat2ch> The Roadster could work on the Moon...

L133[09:26:01] <Althego> but not in space

L134[09:26:07] <Althego> also the tyres would fail on the moon

L135[09:28:24] <Mat2ch> yes, very likely

L136[09:28:38] <Mat2ch> the Moon rocks are sharper, aren't they?

L137[09:28:54] <Althego> also hotter or colder than the working temperature fot hte rubber

L138[09:29:12] <Mat2ch> well, the temperature differences could be a problem, too

L139[09:29:31] <Mat2ch> no air means no way to cool the batteries

L140[09:34:05] <Deddly> Batteries in the roadster were not liquid cooled?

L141[09:34:30] <Althego> there is a cooler below the place where the normal radiator would be

L142[09:34:30] <Mat2ch> I think they were. But how to cool the liquid coolant?

L143[09:34:38] <Althego> and for that you need air

L144[09:34:50] <Althego> at least no the current models

L145[09:34:58] <Deddly> How are things usually cooled in space? Radiators work, don't they?

L146[09:35:06] <Althego> only radiators work

L147[09:35:09] <Althego> passive

L148[09:35:13] <Althego> not efficient

L149[09:35:22] <Mat2ch> The way KSP does it is pretty accurate

L150[09:35:32] <Deddly> I mean IRL

L151[09:35:42] <Mat2ch> that's what I mean :)

L152[09:36:04] <Mat2ch> You have those looooong unfolding radiators on the ISS, which are turned to not be in the sun

L153[09:36:24] <Mat2ch> they run ammonia (iirc) through them

L154[09:36:36] <Althego> yes, they use ammonia for coolant

L155[09:37:25] <Deddly> So if you took an electric car that uses liquid cooling that goes via a shaded radiator, would that not work?

L156[09:37:57] <Mat2ch> must be a big radiator, but yes, that would work

L157[09:38:13] <Althego> the moon rovers had something too. tt was radiating while the astronauts were doing business after driving

L158[09:39:07] <Mat2ch> the advantages of the Moons are: Low gravity, not much rolling resistance (also long brake distances...) and no air, so no drag :D

L159[09:39:31] <Althego> but lot of dust

L160[09:39:44] <Mat2ch> which means you don't need much power to drive, which on the other side results in very low heat generation

L161[09:39:52] <Mat2ch> Althego: bring enough windshield wiper fluid

L162[09:40:19] <Deddly> Theoretically, a moon base could have prepared roads

L163[09:40:46] <Deddly> (eventually)

L164[09:41:52] <Mat2ch> and since there are no dust storms, you'd almost never have to clean them

L165[09:42:57] <Deddly> I wonder how much modification an electric car would need to actually work on the Moon surface for an extended time.

L166[09:43:28] <Deddly> Teslas have cooling fans, so that's not going to be very helpful

L167[09:43:51] <VanDisaster> radiation issues, perhaps?

L168[09:43:59] <Deddly> The Jaguar iPace has a massive radiator in the front, so that might work better

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L170[09:44:55] <Deddly> VanDisaster, well, I'm going to assume that's a problem for any craft and is considered an acceptable risk for the duration of the mission

L171[09:45:24] <Deddly> The interior space might be a bigger problem, since you'd need to wear a space suit whilst driving... hmm

L172[09:45:46] <Althego> probably tou really dont need the full power of the car on the moon anyway

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L174[09:49:46] <Althego> ntw another needles icon in the youtube player

L175[09:50:16] <VanDisaster> traction would probably be an issue yeah

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L177[09:51:14] <VanDisaster> also no need for aerodynamics :p

L178[09:52:17] <VanDisaster> there is an electric Ariel Atom, that seems a better fit

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L186[10:25:42] <Judge_Dedd> Good choice

L187[10:26:59] <Judge_Dedd> Mars might be a better fit for existing electric cars

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L189[10:27:37] <Judge_Dedd> Atmosphere means you don't need a full space suit, and cooling fans work

L190[10:27:55] <Althego> currently you pretty much need a full space suite

L191[10:27:57] <Althego> -r

L192[10:27:58] <Althego> -e

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L194[10:28:35] <Judge_Dedd> I thought that at low altitudes on Mars, pressure suit and air supply is all that's needed.

L195[10:28:58] <Althego> no, highest pressure is around 0.5-1%

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L197[10:30:33] <Judge_Dedd> Dang, I was way off

L198[10:30:36] <APlayer> Hehe, I want a space suite :P

L199[10:30:49] <Althego> hehe

L200[10:30:51] <Althego> soon tm

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L202[10:30:57] <APlayer> Judge_Dedd: Confused it with Duna, perhaps?

L203[10:31:02] <Althego> bigelow is going to build some space hotel thing

L204[10:31:09] <APlayer> It has around 20% Kerbin atmosphere, IIRC

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L206[10:31:56] <APlayer> Althego: TBH, they [not just Bigelow, "they"] were going to build space hotels long ago. None of it was done, so I remain sceptical

L207[10:32:30] <Althego> there is already an inflatable module tested on the iss

L208[10:32:34] <Althego> there is some progress

L209[10:33:22] <APlayer> Sure, but it's nowhere near being built. And probably not economical at this point either. Too few people ready to actually pay. That's the problem with ISS privatisation too

L210[10:33:25] <Althego> btw lately even duna has only some 6% of kerbin pressure

L211[10:33:32] <Althego> because nothing is at sea level

L212[10:33:43] <APlayer> Lately as in what version of KSP?

L213[10:33:56] <Althego> for the last year or 2 :)

L214[10:34:00] <APlayer> Oh

L215[10:34:11] <APlayer> So that applies to my install too

L216[10:34:24] <Althego> near impossible to fly on duna since t hen

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L218[10:41:10] <Althego> https://i.redd.it/roa3d955pjp11.jpg

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L220[10:44:54] <Mat2ch> crunchy...

L221[10:45:12] <Althego> roll

L222[10:54:12] <darsie> Duna's pressure is 5.0462 kPa at 2651 m.

L223[10:55:26] <darsie> Kerbin has 100.2367 kPa at 72 m.

L224[10:56:56] <darsie> Mars has 0.4-0.87 kPa at the surface.

L225[11:02:45] <darsie> South pole?

L226[11:03:32] <Althego> google says concordia research station, antartctica

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L228[11:08:52] <darsie> Duna has 6.2598 kPa at 723 m.

L229[11:08:58] <Deddly> What a wonderful picture, Althego

L230[11:09:08] <Althego> i didnt make it

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L232[11:10:59] <Deddly> Well, then it sucks

L233[11:11:04] <Deddly> :P

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L236[11:13:51] <APlayer> Note to self: Never eat noodles in Antarctica

L237[11:18:05] <Mat2ch> orrrr have a microwave around

L238[11:19:10] <Fluburtur> have you heard the latets news in the RC community?

L239[11:20:53] <Althego> .bashrc? :)

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L241[11:21:11] <Fluburtur> no

L242[11:21:16] <Fluburtur> is sad news btw

L243[11:21:43] <mabus> some new law?

L244[11:21:50] <Fluburtur> no

L245[11:21:58] <Mat2ch> we're not as engaged in the RC community as you are, so tell us

L246[11:21:59] <Fluburtur> one very nice and interesting dude died

L247[11:22:09] <Fluburtur> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUtTm9be07c

L248[11:22:09] <kmath> YouTube - Samm Sheperd 1994-2018

L249[11:24:14] <Althego> so young

L250[11:24:34] <Fluburtur> yeah

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L270[12:50:56] <MedwedianPresident> Hello

L271[12:50:57] <Mod9000> Hello, MedwedianPresident

L272[12:51:18] <MedwedianPresident> Is Mod9000 a bot?

L273[12:51:28] <Althego> yes

L274[12:51:34] <Althego> completely useless

L275[12:51:41] <MedwedianPresident> Okay.

L276[12:51:59] <MedwedianPresident> I am the guy who renamed New York City to Jewtropolis a month ago.

L277[12:52:02] <MedwedianPresident> Ask me anything.

L278[12:56:38] <Fluburtur> I have a question

L279[12:56:45] <Althego> no

L280[12:56:46] <Fluburtur> what are you trying to accomplish

L281[12:57:30] <transitbiker> i keep forgetting that my outpost has a blaze farm, and that i should be using blaze rods for all my smelting

L282[12:58:03] <Althego> what in the blazes are you doing there? :)

L283[12:58:15] <Fluburtur> transitbiker that looks like your kind of stuff https://forum.flitetest.com/index.php?threads/designing-a-wwii-fantasy-water-jet.55460/#post-432377

L284[12:58:25] <transitbiker> noobing up the place with my noobie noobishness

L285[12:58:51] <transitbiker> ooo nice

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L287[13:08:28] <UmbralRaptop> Reason: Antisemitism

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L289[13:17:57] <UmbralRaptop> https://keplerscience.arc.nasa.gov/k2-campaign-19-ended-to-downlink-data.html

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L292[13:20:09] <Althego> still, it is the most successful exoplanet hunter ever

L293[13:21:16] <UmbralRaptop> Yep.

L294[13:21:46] <Althego> future will show, what tess can offer

L295[13:22:05] <UmbralRaptop> Though sadly* it'll probably lose out to TESS in a few years.

L296[13:22:34] <Althego> fate of everything in tech. superseded by new instruments, techniques

L297[13:24:03] <UmbralRaptop> *findings 10s of thousands of exoplanets will be awesome.

L298[13:24:13] <UmbralRaptop> s/s//

L299[13:24:58] <Althego> i wish we could find intelligent life in the solar system :)

L300[13:26:11] <UmbralRaptop> If w can't find any, maybe we should make some?

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L302[13:26:52] <Althego> good idea

L303[13:27:28] <kubi> good evening everyone!

L304[13:34:25] <Fluburtur> https://66.media.tumblr.com/9fa325265de79797bccf74fdb68f16f7/tumblr_pewoapEo581vb46leo1_400.gif

L305[13:34:51] <Althego> kitty

L306[14:05:40] <kubi> muhahaha

L307[14:05:41] <kubi> http://www.speedtest.net/result/7682581695

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L309[14:06:35] <Althego> nice

L310[14:07:06] <Althego> i think i could have gigabit download if i wanted to, but not symmetric

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L316[14:28:14] <transitbiker> hmmm

L317[14:29:06] <Fluburtur> transitbiker I have been talking with friends and they came up with the idea of pelican

L318[14:29:20] <Fluburtur> for the name of my frand

L319[14:29:29] <Fluburtur> brand*

L320[14:29:50] <Fluburtur> so something that has to do with pelicans in a way or another

L321[14:30:35] <transitbiker> nice

L322[14:30:54] <Fluburtur> but we haven't got anything definitive yet

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L324[14:33:48] <transitbiker> well he best thing is to not be too serious, play around a bit, see what kinda sound appeals to everyone, etc

L325[14:34:02] <Fluburtur> yeah

L326[14:34:08] <Fluburtur> so do you have any idea?

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L343[15:26:40] <Deddly> Fluburtur, have you seen HarvestR's new project?

L344[15:26:47] <Fluburtur> no

L345[15:27:00] <Deddly> He's making an RC plane sim in VR

L346[15:27:15] <Fluburtur> nice

L347[15:27:24] <Fluburtur> baha has been making a similar thing

L348[15:27:36] <Deddly> You should totally get into business with him where you can 3D print and build people's constructions

L349[15:28:09] <Fluburtur> well I don't have that much free time but I could surely do some 3d design for him

L350[15:28:21] <Fluburtur> and some physical things maybe

L351[15:29:16] <Fluburtur> interesting idea tho, will consider that

L352[15:29:17] <Guest19565> Evening ladies & gents, I just got back into modding ksp and haven't been able to find any good info on setting .cfg values for new resources. Does anyone know what "hsp" is, and how to determine a proper value for it?

L353[15:29:51] <Fluburtur> Deddly do you have any way to get in contact with him?

L354[15:30:20] <Deddly> Hi there Guest19565

L355[15:30:50] <Guest19565> Hallo Deddly

L356[15:30:51] <Deddly> Guest19565, I unfortunately don't know the answer to that, but if you wait a few minutes, more knowledgeable people will notice :)

L357[15:31:35] <Deddly> Fluburtur, https://www.floatingoriginstudios.com/

L358[15:31:52] <Deddly> "Contact us" at the bottom of the page

L359[15:32:12] <Guest19565> Deddly; That's what I was hoping for, I spent a good amount of time trying to find an answer without any luck so far.

L360[15:32:17] <Fluburtur> so how do I go about that

L361[15:32:41] <Fluburtur> "yo, I 3d model and build rc planes and a nice dude on the ksp irc told me to tell you about that"

L362[15:32:58] <Deddly> Something like that, lol

L363[15:33:05] <Deddly> Check the project web site: https://www.balsamodelsim.com/

L364[15:33:15] <Fluburtur> I may sound like im joking but I really have no idea how to do that kind of stuff

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L367[15:36:07] <Deddly> Be completely open and to the point. Tell them who you are, what you do, what you're trying to do, and that you have an idea. Read your letter through to yourself imagining that you received it out of the blue as a game developer and ask yourself how you would feel to receive such a letter.

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L369[15:36:43] <Deddly> I imagine it would be a good idea to tell them that you basically do what the game is about in real life

L370[15:37:21] <Fluburtur> yeah im writting right now, I will show it to you before I send it

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L373[15:38:01] <Deddly> I would recommend that you write it and don't send it yet. Wait a day or two and read it with fresh eyes

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L378[15:42:25] <Fluburtur> uh I really have no idea what to tell him

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L383[16:14:02] <Deddly> Nice

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L387[16:22:33] <pudgetta> hi

L388[16:22:34] <Mod9000> Hello, pudgetta

L389[16:22:43] <pudgetta> can you help guys

L390[16:22:45] <pudgetta> http://helpmemakemoney.tk/

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L407[17:43:02] <Draconiator> I think I'm going to upgrade my backup drive to a SSD soon. much safer than hard drives

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L409[17:45:14] <darsie> My brother switched to an SSD and it failed.

L410[17:45:20] <darsie> I think it was second hand.

L411[17:45:39] <darsie> I have SSD now, too.

L412[17:45:44] <darsie> For KSP.

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L414[17:53:35] <Azander> SSD is the only way to go

L415[17:54:09] <darsie> Use tape.

L416[17:54:40] <darsie> LOAD "$",8,1

L417[17:54:52] <darsie> Wait, that's for floppies.

L418[17:55:28] <Azander> try:

L419[17:55:35] <Azander> mount /dev/tape1

L420[17:55:55] <Azander> tar x /dev/tape1 | bash $1

L421[17:56:08] <darsie> mount: can't find /dev/tape1 in /etc/fstab

L422[17:56:43] <Azander> yeah... forgot the mount point

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L424[17:57:54] <darsie> mount: special device /dev/tape1 does not exist

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L426[18:03:31] <Azander> mine does :)

L427[18:06:25] <darsie> You must be really old ;).

L428[18:11:06] <Azander> No.. I do data conversion

L429[18:11:21] <darsie> ic

L430[18:11:34] <Azander> Tape, 8" Floppy, 5.25" floppy, 2.5 Floppy, CD, DVD, BlueRay, USB

L431[18:11:48] <darsie> 3.5 Floppy?

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L433[18:57:16] <Azander> that too

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L438[19:49:59] <Draconiator> Finally found a way to make a drive compatible with the xBox 360S if you wanna plug it into the SATA connector.

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