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L67[07:23:54] <UmbralRaptor> http://www.thespacereview.com/article/3564/1
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L106[11:22:11] <Fluburtur> APlayer do you want to see the website my friend has been making me to sell my rc planes?
L107[11:22:42] <APlayer> Sorry, need to do lots of stuff today. If you could remind me on wednesday, that'd be awesome!
L108[11:22:51] <Fluburtur> it's not that big
L109[11:22:55] <Fluburtur> like 2 pages
L110[11:23:15] <Fluburtur> http://motivandcoach.fr/
L111[11:23:35] <Althego> sing "do you want to build a website" (from frozen)
L112[11:23:40] <Fluburtur> no
L113[11:24:05] <Althego> you doxed yourself
L114[11:24:15] <APlayer> Nice! The purple is slightly over-saturated, IMHO, but I like the design otherwise!
L115[11:24:33] <Althego> why is the plane distorted?
L116[11:24:46] <Fluburtur> where
L117[11:25:09] <Althego> ah because i have the window in half of the screen and it is more vertical than horizontal
L118[11:25:18] <Althego> and it squashes the background picture
L119[11:25:33] <Althego> on the opening screen
L120[11:25:52] <Fluburtur> uh yeah there might be automatic resizing going on
L121[11:26:20] <Fluburtur> this is the source pic https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Nwl1mONJibMA_u7pb-8zQ5l3RXCRL2Tz/view?usp=sharing
L122[11:26:42] <Fluburtur> uh yeah it is slightly squashed
L123[11:27:32] <Althego> for me it has a lenght contraction for something like 80% of the speed of light :)
L124[11:27:39] <Fluburtur> very fast plane
L125[11:29:14] <Althego> hte plane is in front of around uniform blue sky. maybe the plane could be a separate element and hover above the sky
L126[11:29:34] <Fluburtur> like so a mask or something?
L127[11:29:48] <Althego> and then there would be no need to resize
L128[11:29:57] <Fluburtur> k I will tell that to my friend
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L130[11:30:00] <Althego> because probably the goal was to make the plane visible
L131[11:30:07] <Althego> it may be hard to do
L132[11:30:12] <Fluburtur> yeah
L133[11:31:22] <Zarthus> french sounds quite funny in that context
L134[11:31:36] <Zarthus> me products, me contacts, me remote controlled planes
L135[11:32:07] <Fluburtur> yeah we need to correct stuff still
L136[11:32:22] <Zarthus> http://motivandcoach.fr/en/VG33.html loads incredibly slow for me
L137[11:32:29] <Zarthus> ../images/Séquence01.Imagefixe030.png specifically
L138[11:32:44] <Althego> the top picture stopped loading halfway
L139[11:32:52] <Deddly> Hey Fluburtur https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/166447-the-moderation-nation-space-program/&do=findComment&comment=3448640
L140[11:32:52] <Zarthus> yep
L141[11:33:41] <Fluburtur> ooo nice
L142[11:33:51] <Fluburtur> k I will tell my friend to work on that
L143[11:34:31] <Deddly> I Necroed your thread too, Fluburtur
L144[11:34:37] <Deddly> \o/
L145[11:34:38] <Fluburtur> lmao
L146[11:34:46] <Fluburtur> I haven't logged to the ksp forum in like, over a year
L147[11:35:45] <Deddly> Fluburtur, need some help?
L148[11:35:54] <Deddly> Fluburtur, I mean, have you lost your password?
L149[11:36:07] <Fluburtur> no I just forgot to log in
L150[11:36:12] <Deddly> Ah
L151[11:36:21] <Fluburtur> kinda lost interest, I think there was some drama last time and I was like "whatever"
L152[11:36:23] <Zarthus> i have lost Fluburtur's password
L153[11:36:26] <Zarthus> can you help me recover it
L154[11:36:29] <Zarthus> my email is zarthus@esper.net
L155[11:36:30] <Deddly> Well you better get ready to update your thread ;)
L156[11:36:46] <Fluburtur> you know htat because of you I will have to resume my own run
L157[11:37:18] <Deddly> Sure, Zarthus. I still have your contact details from when I had to give you that advance fee in order to claim my unexpected inheritance
L158[11:38:11] <Deddly> I'm expecting my 24 million any day now
L159[11:38:36] <Zarthus> it's coming, as you can imagine 24 million is a lot of bytes to send over the internet, and it's slow here in germany
L160[11:39:27] <Zarthus> we had some trouble with the Internet Customs, so it had a bit of a holdup.
L161[11:39:58] <Deddly> Yeah tell me about it. I had trouble getting anything to work in Germany even on 4G
L162[11:40:31] <Althego> the best mobile internet reception i had in germany was inside military bases :)
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L164[11:41:30] <Zarthus> i don't think a military base is a good location to transfer 24 million EUR
L165[11:41:46] <Zarthus> they might start asking questions
L166[11:42:00] <Zarthus> or maybe it's a great location, nobody suspects the person in a military base of being .. "shady".
L167[11:42:01] <UmbralRaptor> Depends on if it's in terms of cash or goods.
L168[11:42:15] <Zarthus> we're talking bytes here, it's an internet transaction
L169[11:42:22] <Zarthus> so... goods?
L170[11:43:46] <Deddly> Absolutely. Only goods. No bads at all
L171[11:44:51] <Deddly> Zarthus, so the thousand EUR I sent to Germancustoms.official.zarthus.biz wasn't accepted as proof of identity?
L172[11:45:34] <Zarthus> Deddly, money does not identify a person
L173[11:45:55] <Zarthus> Deddly, unless you're one of those presidents on the bill itself
L174[11:46:02] <Deddly> Exactly
L175[11:46:13] <Zarthus> but if it's an internet transaction, you could have photoshopped the bill
L176[11:47:59] <Deddly> True. I should have thought of that before sending it
L177[11:48:52] <Deddly> This reminds me of an anecdote from Readers Digest years ago.
L178[11:49:12] <UmbralRaptor> How hard would it be to get $24 in jets from a military base? >_>
L179[11:49:21] <Deddly> Fax was still poorly understood by many
L180[11:49:58] <Deddly> An older person asked the owner of the fax machine to send a letter for her
L181[11:50:27] <Deddly> So he started opening the envelope and the older person was indignant as she said:
L182[11:50:39] <Deddly> "That's private! Send it in the envelope!"
L183[11:50:48] <Althego> lol
L184[11:51:19] <Althego> faxes should not be allowed to exist
L185[11:51:28] <Althego> just as sms
L186[11:52:53] <Zarthus> i don't mind SMS
L187[11:53:07] <Althego> except it is 1000x overpriced
L188[11:53:10] <Zarthus> but it might as well go over the internet nowadays
L189[11:53:20] <Zarthus> i don't know, i get 500 free smses per month
L190[11:53:24] <Althego> everything does
L191[11:53:29] <Althego> fax included
L192[11:53:36] <Zarthus> i send...1 sms per month, MAYBE
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L194[11:57:39] <Althego> sms is one of the most horrible things humanity has invented
L195[11:57:58] <APlayer> Pff, who need SMS nowadays? Use instant messengers!
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L197[12:01:29] <lordcirth> Well, got my first relevant part failure
L198[12:01:40] <lordcirth> (Not counting failures long after the mission was complete)
L199[12:02:12] <lordcirth> My Minmus lander engine failed while outbound to Minmus. Thankfully still had 500m/s left in the transfer stage to return
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L201[12:03:44] <lordcirth> Jeb's safe, but that's $200k gone
L202[12:05:13] <Deddly> I like it that we're using IRC whilst advocating getting rid of old messaging technology.
L203[12:05:43] <Deddly> SMS may have its problems, but it's a global standard. Like IRC and email, it's not going anywhere anytime soon.
L204[12:06:00] <Althego> the sms is defined in ss7, that is from the 70s
L205[12:06:04] <JVFoxy> Sorry, not sure I'm ready for brain implants...
L206[12:06:15] <Althego> the t.30 for the fax is older
L207[12:07:23] <lordcirth> IRC v3 is actually pretty fancy
L208[12:07:42] <Althego> also there are protocols that can be renewed and some are not aging well
L209[12:11:50] * UmbralRaptor ? APlayer in the walled garden.
L210[12:12:02] <Althego> play nice
L211[12:12:11] <UmbralRaptor> (Now if XMPP wasn't basically dead…)
L212[12:12:35] <APlayer> UmbralRaptor: I was about to !wpn you in here
L213[12:12:56] <UmbralRaptor> hah
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L215[12:15:49] <Fluburtur> well, ordered new computer
L216[12:15:59] <Fluburtur> I should be able to run ksp with all the mods now
L217[12:16:12] <Deddly> Nice
L218[12:16:14] <Althego> what, you build a computer
L219[12:16:21] <Fluburtur> yeah
L220[12:16:24] <APlayer> Aye, Deddly! AllTheMods sounds familiar. :P
L221[12:16:26] <Fluburtur> ordered a bunch of parts
L222[12:16:33] <Althego> the one true way
L223[12:16:34] <Deddly> Ah yeah, this is true
L224[12:16:42] <Fluburtur> just keeping the old case, cpu cooler and ssd
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L226[12:16:49] <Fluburtur> even got new screens!
L227[12:17:01] <Fluburtur> goodbye tot he 10 years old televisions I use
L228[12:17:12] <Fluburtur> those weren't even 720p
L229[12:17:16] <Deddly> Oh man
L230[12:17:18] <Fluburtur> and only 19"
L231[12:17:29] <Fluburtur> now I will have 24" 1080p
L232[12:17:40] <Deddly> You're not going to miss the hiss and static from turning those on/off
L233[12:17:56] <Fluburtur> nah those are flat screen at least
L234[12:17:58] <Fluburtur> just old
L235[12:18:13] <Deddly> Oh right
L236[12:18:15] <Fluburtur> https://78.media.tumblr.com/648b4ec4d489bc854de29dbdf46ed8f8/tumblr_peucefKZlA1rvk14t_540.jpg
L237[12:19:00] <Althego> hehe
L238[12:19:49] <Althego> hehe the family pic https://twitter.com/XplodingUnicorn
L239[12:20:28] <Fluburtur> also I got a CD walkman
L240[12:20:34] <Fluburtur> one of the old ones
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L242[12:24:46] <Deddly> Pfft. You don't have a cassette Walkman?
L243[12:25:56] <Fluburtur> sadly no
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L245[12:29:45] <JVFoxy> cassette player in my truck..
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L251[12:52:42] <Draconiator> hmmm, do smaller planes generally go faster? I have one with stilletto-type wings that can reach 700M/S....ahile my other fighters barely crack 350, even in wet mode (I have panthers on all of 'em)
L252[12:55:51] <Althego> mile per siemens? :)
L253[12:56:58] <Deddly> Draconiator, people often put too much wing on larger planes = lots of drag
L254[12:57:01] <Draconiator> meters per second :P
L255[12:58:11] <Deddly> Draconiator, Also, atmospheric engines are almost exclusively in the small size, which makes it easier to build an aerodynamic small plane
L256[12:58:16] <UmbralRaptor> yes. a small jet with 1 trurboram can break 1400 m/s if it doesn't overheat
L257[12:59:38] <Deddly> But there's nothing inherently "better" about a small plane
L258[12:59:48] <Deddly> (per se)
L259[13:00:36] <Deddly> If you had Tweakscale and made the entire plane larger, it should have the same performance
L260[13:01:23] <Deddly> But of course it would use more fuel and cost more funds, so of course small planes are better for efficiency, just like all other craft
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L263[13:05:28] <Draconiator> hmmm, it wouldn't make sense to Tweakscale the cockpit I have on it already....so I'm just gonna put a bigger one on. Oh, and why isn't Tweakscale stock already? lol
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L267[13:11:35] <Draconiator> AAAAAAAAAAAAAND the tweakscaled version is an incredibly odd looking thing. https://i.gyazo.com/282c1ad44fb9a6a6f5c18b0df17449f2.jpg
L268[13:11:53] <Althego> hehe
L269[13:12:25] <Althego> hmm, this one is coming up https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kounotori_7
L270[13:12:45] <Althego> there are not too many japanese missions to the iss
L271[13:13:47] <Althego> no spacex for a while
L272[13:17:37] <Althego> the best thing i have seen today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t98PQws_3Y8
L273[13:17:37] <kmath> YouTube - Jonny Quest Music soundtracks-Opening - Claymation Style
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L282[13:37:59] <Judge_Dedd> How does that fly, Draconiator?
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L284[13:41:13] <UmbralRaptor> Probably just fine?
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L286[13:41:41] <UmbralRaptor> well, aside from the lack of pitch authority
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L288[13:42:36] <Draconiator> https://i.gyazo.com/66c9eb39afdbd1a80f32732493bf7bfe.png - the original version. The tweakscaled one flies AWFUL.
L289[13:44:21] <UmbralRaptor> Everything is on fire!
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L295[13:57:47] <Judge_Dedd> Draconiator: Tweakscale the cockpit as well. Your design needs reaction wheel torque to fly
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L298[14:03:09] <transitbiker> livestream! https://gaming.youtube.com/channel/UCZuDQkMA5GF3Jh29ElK3-uQ/live
L299[14:03:13] <transitbiker> ksp will be tomorrow
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L301[14:07:24] <Althego> https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/41442377_1872226946201869_9167383392939933696_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=e32349a5bef1f3caeec3258843c73560&oe=5C3543E7
L302[14:13:33] <Fluburtur> transitbiker I need your help
L303[14:13:44] <Fluburtur> crap that sounded like star wars
L304[14:13:48] <Althego> hehe
L305[14:13:53] <Fluburtur> "obi wan I need ur help lol"
L306[14:13:59] <Althego> no, that would have been, help me transitbiker, you are my only hope
L307[14:14:21] <transitbiker> whats up Fluburtur?
L308[14:14:37] <Fluburtur> I need a name for my rc plane brand
L309[14:14:57] <Althego> baguette :)
L310[14:15:18] <transitbiker> one sec
L311[14:15:50] <Fluburtur> this is the website I have for now http://motivandcoach.fr/
L312[14:15:53] <Fluburtur> not done yet tho
L313[14:16:20] <Fluburtur> actually im gonna send you my criteria in private to not spam
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L320[14:50:37] <lordcirth> Is there a mod to add 5m and 7.5m stock style fairings, as opposed to Procedural Fairings?
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L328[15:17:27] <Supernovy> Evening, Gentlemen.
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L331[15:36:23] <Supercheese> Near Future Launch Vehicles and SpaceY have 5m and larger fairings, I do believe
L332[15:36:38] <Supercheese> also there might be a module manager patch for that
L333[15:37:08] <APlayer> SpaceY and NFLV have some, yes
L334[15:37:37] <Supercheese> yeah also a lightweight MM patch in this thread: https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/139980-130-community-database-of-module-manager-patches-for-stock-ksp/
L335[15:38:01] <APlayer> I definitely recommend SpaceY, I thoroughly enjoyed it. Never used NFLV much, but all mods by Nertea generally play really well with other mods and are made solidly, so I expect it's good too
L336[15:38:57] <Supercheese> SpaceY is good stuff for making thicc rockets
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L341[15:43:39] <APlayer> https://i.imgur.com/JfiOqgM.jpg
L342[15:45:40] <Fluburtur> makes sense
L343[15:47:01] * APlayer is not responsible. Image found at another channel and deemed fitting to share here
L344[15:51:06] <UmbralRaptor> Fact check: true
L345[15:53:50] <lordcirth> Is 3km/s around the optimal delta-v per stage with stock LFO rockets?
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L352[16:43:46] <Fluburtur> I was thinkng about putting floats on my rc plane I made
L353[16:43:49] <Fluburtur> to make it a seaplane
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L357[17:24:38] <JVFoxy> Hmm... tiny jet development team...
L358[17:26:02] <JVFoxy> https://imgur.com/a/QWhaasb
L359[17:26:02] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/1tKXsvm.jpg
L360[17:29:39] <Supercheese> smol plen
L361[17:31:02] <JVFoxy> I'd like to think .. portable
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L363[17:34:46] <UmbralRaptor> Any plane that isn't by definition portable has problems.
L364[17:36:30] <JVFoxy> or .. 'mobile'
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L368[17:38:40] <UmbralRaptop> good job, imgur. Your mobile site ate all my ram.
L369[17:39:25] <JVFoxy> umm.. opps sorry
L370[17:41:04] <UmbralRaptop> Anyway, why so many intakes?
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L372[17:42:50] <JVFoxy> its just two
L373[17:43:00] <JVFoxy> lower cone, thats a fuel tank in front
L374[17:43:24] <UmbralRaptop> ah
L375[17:43:35] <JVFoxy> updated with weasleey engine: https://imgur.com/a/lVzAD8w
L376[17:43:35] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/k5nOpQf.jpg
L377[17:43:44] <UmbralRaptop> (but still, the Aeris 3 manages with just one)
L378[17:43:59] <JVFoxy> instead of belly tank, wing pods
L379[17:44:54] <JVFoxy> I know.. just.. was messing with placements. I suppose I could ahve put it in front of belly tank, but my OCD says, landing gear would mess with aerodynamics
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L382[18:21:40] <JVFoxy> ok.. just had to...
L383[18:21:58] <JVFoxy> kerbalized A-4 Skyhawk, named 'Little Hawk' ... https://imgur.com/a/SyxOlbU
L384[18:21:58] <kmath> https://i.imgur.com/k6ijhpI.jpg
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L404[20:04:03] <JVFoxy> I guess no engine class between weezleey and juno?
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L406[20:06:38] <JVFoxy> its just... one juno.. not quite the power, wheezly, waaay tooo much. two junos seem to do pretty good for a little craft
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L414[20:36:12] <UmbralRaptop> Controversial opinion: having gaps in the available parts where a cluster of engines is a better choice than a single large engine is a good thing.
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L424[21:24:38] <Draconiator> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071LGVBDM/ref=psdc_284822_t2_B071DY2VJR - Upgrading to this soon.
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L429[22:26:11] <Draconiator> I've come up with a pretty cool small ship. I THINK I can get it into orbit without cheats...did it with cheats first so I know how it performs. https://i.gyazo.com/013caa56c9853735f9607c499afd72c9.png
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